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Our Infrastructure is not Crumbling
National Review Online, by David Harsanyi

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Posted By:paperpuncher, 2/9/2018 9:05:05 AM

One of the great myths of American politics, no matter who is president and no matter who runs Congress, is that our infrastructure is “crumbling.” Former president Barack Obama repeatedly warned us about our “crumbling infrastructure.” President Donald Trump now tells us that our infrastructure is “crumbling.” The next president is going to hatch a giant plan to fix our crumbling infrastructure as well, because most voters want to believe infrastructure is crumbling.

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Maintenance of Streets, Freeways and bridges are the responsibility of State, County and local governments. For the most part, they do a good job. When you really think about it the author is right. How many bridges do you know of that are dangerous and if you know about it do you drive over them rather than taking a safer route?

If we were to be spending money on infrastructure as such I have a couple of candidates. 1) Hardening our electrical grid from a likely EMP. 2) Build the Wall

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: earlybird, 2/9/2018 9:12:39 AM     (No. 11538410)

I would need to know what “infrastructure” is being referred to. Do we know? Does writer Harsani really know?

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Reply 2 - Posted by: earlybird, 2/9/2018 9:17:47 AM     (No. 11538417)

Harsanyi makes one good point within his own see of nebulous hearsay:

Although still nebulous, the White House’s plan apparently features some attempt to reduce the regulatory burden that the private sector must wade through before gaining approval for building permits. This is a positive step, when you consider that the vast majority of infrastructure is still built by the private sector. This should be a goal of the administration with or without the massive infrastructure bill.


When amateurs opine on such topics, they have to rely upon hearsay and the writings of others. They may be right, but it’s not because they really know what is or is not the case. Ours is a big country. Most of us don’t know details of the parts of it that are close to us let alone across the land, in other places.

I would need to know more hard information, not journospeak.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: earlybird, 2/9/2018 9:19:18 AM     (No. 11538419)

RE #2, that should have been “sea of nebulous hearsay”.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: bamboozle, 2/9/2018 9:32:04 AM     (No. 11538429)

Sea of nebulous hearsay....that has a nice ring to it and sort of well describes the media all over the country too.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Hadjipoo, 2/9/2018 9:59:48 AM     (No. 11538468)

Maybe that´s true in his little bubble, but out here in flyover land when a bridge is deemed too dangerous to cross, they just condemn it and make people take another route.

That´s a real problem for tractors, the Amish and a few other folk. Now we have extra wide tractors, horse and buggies, and joggers traveling on shoulders of major highways.

Occasionally one of them gets hit. It never turns out well for the horse & company.


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Reply 6 - Posted by: dirtyjersey, 2/9/2018 10:01:57 AM     (No. 11538472)

The author is clueless. I will volunteer to show him dozens of examples that would make any normal person curl up in fear.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: paglia guy, 2/9/2018 10:13:06 AM     (No. 11538488)

Most of the worst crumbling infrastructure is in the Blue states! Let them fix it, or live with it.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Hotrod, 2/9/2018 11:00:16 AM     (No. 11538555)

We pay a lot, through gas taxes and all the other taxes associated with vehicles, that are supposed to be spent on roads and bridges, for example. Where has that money gone? It has been ´´borrowed´´ to use on other things. Much of the problems are local and are the responsibility of state and local governments. As another poster said: Look at the big cities run by democrats. Why are they some of the worst?

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Reply 9 - Posted by: strike3, 2/9/2018 11:07:17 AM     (No. 11538566)

Frequent drivers on I-80 across Pennsylvania would swear that the roadway is in a constant state of crumble. The problem is, they built the road over a bunch of natural springs that freeze in the winter and cause havoc with the surface. PennDot crews work on various sections of it all Summer and we have the same situation the following Winter. How do you fix that, besides blaming it on AGW? There are multiple labor unions involved thus no real incentive for a "permanent" fix.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: toddh, 2/9/2018 11:41:45 AM     (No. 11538607)

Every time I hear about "crumbling infrastructure" as some sort of national problem, I know the speaker is a liar or idiot. The liar wants more money and power. The idiot listens to the liar.

If the money isn´t spent by Washington, it is invisible and no federal-level pol or hack can claim credit. It´s in their interest to whine about nonexistent problems.



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Reply 11 - Posted by: dvc, 2/9/2018 12:34:31 PM     (No. 11538667)

Largely correct viewpoint, coming from a structural engineer who has personally closely examined a failed (relatively gracefully, thank goodness) small secondary highway bridge. It failed due to severe neglect, clearly had not been competently inspected with an eye to prevent failure for a decade or more.

In any case, the primary problem is semantics.

What exactly is "infrastructure" in the language of this bill?

If it is roads, bridges, airports and dams, I am OK with that. If it included jobs programs, phony green energy projects and credits, I am against it.

We need a more specific bill - NOT "infrastructure", but a "Roads, Bridges and Airports bill".

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Reply 12 - Posted by: doctorfixit, 2/9/2018 5:47:38 PM     (No. 11538972)

This guy has obviously not been to California. "Roads" are a series of potholes & gullies connected by remnants of asphalt or concrete. Schools are dilapidated. Rot is everywhere. But it looks fairly new compared to some eastern cities.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Staunch Repub, 5/6/2018 11:02:40 AM     (No. 11624288)

1. Write is not familiar with New York or New Jersey
2. I agree with commenter above - - it is a blue state issue primarily (Illinois another example)
And, I will add, having to commute past bridge repair every day, it is obvious neither ingenuity nor common sense play any part in the status quo road / bridge construction repair (because of blue unions)

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Staunch Repub, 5/6/2018 11:03:00 AM     (No. 11624289)

1. Writer is not familiar with New York or New Jersey
2. I agree with commenter above - - it is a blue state issue primarily (Illinois another example)
And, I will add, having to commute past bridge repair every day, it is obvious neither ingenuity nor common sense play any part in the status quo road / bridge construction repair (because of blue unions)

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