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Transgender N.J. pastor to celebrate
with historic renaming ceremony

Jersey Journal [Jersey City, NJ], by Rev. Alexander Santora

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Posted By:Ribicon, 2/8/2018 11:03:11 AM

When Jesus called Simon to be his first apostle, he changed his name to Peter. On Sunday, Lutheran Bishop Tracie Bartholomew will call Pastor Rose Beeson "Peter" for the first time in what will be a historic "renaming ceremony" at St. Matthew Trinity Lutheran Church in Hoboken. Since last summer, Beeson has been transitioning from woman to man and has shared this process with a supportive parish community. "This a wonderful day in the life of this radically inclusive community," said Mark Singleton, a 21-year member of the church who was on the committee to call Beeson to pastor St. Matthew Trinity

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Are there enough worshippers of mental illness to keep the pews filled? A "For Sale" sign in the future will tell the tale; maybe a new radically inclusive mosque will take its place.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: sunnyday, 2/8/2018 11:07:21 AM     (No. 11537490)

This is why I left the Lutheran church. They mock God on so many levels.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: lostinmassachusetts, 2/8/2018 11:21:26 AM     (No. 11537517)

Yes,#1. This is indeed a mockery of God. But God will not be mocked by this false pastor and his supporters.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: earlybird, 2/8/2018 11:22:05 AM     (No. 11537520)

Will Peter display her proof?

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Nashman, 2/8/2018 11:26:26 AM     (No. 11537528)

That still doesn´t make her a man.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Maggie2u, 2/8/2018 11:28:22 AM     (No. 11537534)

This is a hate crime. It´s gender appropriation.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Iraengneer, 2/8/2018 11:28:25 AM     (No. 11537535)

Apparently, the Lutherans (ELCA we presume) are in a headlong race for worst apostasy and heresy with the United Methodists, Disciples of Christ, and American Baptists. Not a race you should want to win.
Somehow, I doubt that Luther would be pleased.
And pleasing the Lord seems to be the least of their concerns. "Depart from Me, I never knew you" is in their future.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: rfr46, 2/8/2018 11:42:00 AM     (No. 11537556)

At least they did not do a renaming of St Matthew and a celebration of "her" change of gender identity.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: californiadude, 2/8/2018 11:55:10 AM     (No. 11537600)

Delusional fools.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Virtudawg, 2/8/2018 11:59:27 AM     (No. 11537610)

Another example of the "Ten Suggestions" doctrinal basis of many so-called mainstream "Christian" denominations . . .

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Reply 10 - Posted by: miceal, 2/8/2018 12:01:59 PM     (No. 11537617)

Ah yes, celebrate perversity. Their day is coming...

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Harlowe, 2/8/2018 12:04:36 PM     (No. 11537619)

#1,#2,#6,#9- With all due respect, such a blanket statement about the Lutheran Church is most unfortunate and inaccurate. Indeed, the ELCA has gone off the rails as evidenced by the formation of a new synod, the NALC (North American Lutheran Church) constituted on August 27, 2010 due to the ELCA’s “shift in policy toward homosexual members and clergy. The NALC regarded the shift as being unbiblical and symptomatic of growing liberalism of ELCA.”

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Reply 12 - Posted by: jlw509, 2/8/2018 12:04:37 PM     (No. 11537620)

I wish this woman nothing but the best.\

When a person has inward coherence, her body and mind operate harmoniously. If that harmony is absent and her body is healthy, it´s her mind that´s unhealthy.

Ethically, you assist the mind to match the healthy body, not sabotage the normal, healthy body to match a confused mind.

The doctors who do this are unethical: they are not treating underlying causes, and not aiming for real wellness.

The poor women. I hope she keeps her "girl parts," so that when she realizes that fake maleness isn´t working, she can "transition back" without extra ripping and stitching.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Harlowe, 2/8/2018 12:04:44 PM     (No. 11537621)

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The Lutheran Church Missouri Synod (LCMS) and the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod (WELS) accept and preach Scripture-based teachings of Martin Luther that inspired the reformation: “Grace alone, Faith alone, Scripture alone.”
Scripture is very clear about “false teachers” – “Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness.” (James 3:1)

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Reply 14 - Posted by: zephyrgirl, 2/8/2018 12:07:36 PM     (No. 11537624)

I´m guessing that the pews are filled with gays, transgenders, their poor children, and a few older parishioners who are staying because they´ve attended their entire lives. Not exactly a sustaining congregation.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: SALady, 2/8/2018 12:36:29 PM     (No. 11537657)

He can change his name.

He can have all the mutilating surgery that he wants.

He can take dangerous amounts of steroids and hormones EVERY day for the rest of his life so that his body will mimic a woman´s body.

But he can NOT change his DNA!!!! His DNA will always say that he is a MAN!!!!!!

God will not be mocked!!!!!!

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Whamdbambam, 2/8/2018 12:40:01 PM     (No. 11537663)

They´ve confused their peters.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Maggie2u, 2/8/2018 12:54:44 PM     (No. 11537679)

you´re right poster #15. It doesn´t matter what they cut off, what they add on, what drugs they take, the science is settled and 100% of scientists agree, you cannot change your sex.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Salt5792, 2/8/2018 1:08:00 PM     (No. 11537695)

Perverts, all of them.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Rather Read, 2/8/2018 1:15:14 PM     (No. 11537700)

And the Episcopal diocese in Washington will no longer refer to God in terms of the male gender. That diocese is already losing members. It will lose more I think.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: hisself, 2/8/2018 1:21:22 PM     (No. 11537708)

These people are bleepin´ insane!

And that idiot episcopal ´priest´ in Washington was on Tucker Carlson last week and showed his lack of knowledge of the Bible, at least Genesis 2.
His entire non-gendering of G-d was based upon his mistake.

May G-d have mercy upon these confused and ill souls.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Attila DiMedici, 2/8/2018 1:22:26 PM     (No. 11537709)

So, the Lutheran Church agrees with this woman that God made a mistake in creating her as a woman. He should have made her a man and now Man has/is going to correct God´s mistake?

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Reply 22 - Posted by: dvc, 2/8/2018 1:38:32 PM     (No. 11537733)

The national churches of the main Protestant lines have been thoroughly and completely infiltrated by anti-religious zealots and extremist leftists for quite some time.

Not a penny to support these national church groups, they really do NOT represent the religions that they have hijacked.

And look at the Pope, certainly not much of a Catholic.

This is how the left is working to destroy Christianity. Infiltrate the ranks with zealots and try to dismantle it from within.

The Bible still remains.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: legalart, 2/8/2018 1:38:53 PM     (No. 11537734)

If I were a Bible-believing Lutheran, I would get out of any of its denominational churches until they changed their name and became distinct. Hard to figure out who´s who when they all call themselves Lutheran. Agreed, this is a perversion and will catch up with this woman/man/whatever. "Therefore go out from their midst, and be separate from them, says the Lord, and do not touch what is unclean and I will welcome you" (2 Cor. 6:17)
It always baffles me why people who don´t believe what the Scripture teaches insist on playing church and pretending. It´s a schizo way to live. Then again, there´s a lot of money in those places.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Timber Queen, 2/8/2018 2:02:32 PM     (No. 11537755)

#11/13 – Thank you for the explanation of the various synods under the Lutheran label. I understand your pain with brethren who are unable to accept basic truths and choose instead to break away and reform.

Respectfully, I do have a question about Lutheran doctrine. I’m a bit confused by your quote, “Grace alone, Faith alone, Scripture alone.” You listed three things that are “alone”. How can all three be “alone”?

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Reply 25 - Posted by: M2, 2/8/2018 2:07:40 PM     (No. 11537762)

Isn’t that special?

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Reply 26 - Posted by: PAdiva, 2/8/2018 2:11:00 PM     (No. 11537765)

The new name is ´Peter´?
Now, that IS funny!

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Harlowe, 2/8/2018 2:15:19 PM     (No. 11537768)

#23- With all due respect, abandoning Lutheranism is not an option for believers of Scripture-based teaching. Much like President Trump is doing to right the wrongs of left-wing decadent governance, believing Lutherans who are members of Scripture-based teaching synods need to pray for errant Lutherans and challenge false teachings within Lutheranism while providing a safe haven for Lutherans recognizing and rejecting false teachings. Catholics would not abandon their “denomination” to become separate and distinct. Ultimately, true believers constitute the Church on earth. Our Lord assures believers that “…the gates of hell shall not prevail against it (Church).”(Matthew16:18)

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Reply 28 - Posted by: volksford, 2/8/2018 2:27:16 PM     (No. 11537775)

The church of What´s Happnin´ Now !

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Reply 29 - Posted by: tip35c, 2/8/2018 2:29:07 PM     (No. 11537777)

Forrr...
He´s.. umm, It´s a jolly good fell..!

..err, Person?

Dang. Awkward.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: richdet, 2/8/2018 2:41:14 PM     (No. 11537784)

I can´t claim to know how this hustle worked exactly, but presumably a major reason Rev. Pete got this position in the first place was because she is a woman. Ironic, or so it seems to me.

Another dispiriting case study in this loony bin called the 21st century.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: Pilot222, 2/8/2018 3:12:05 PM     (No. 11537802)

The Catholc Church,with its idiot communist Pope,is not far behind in perverted thinking.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: mathman, 2/8/2018 3:36:26 PM     (No. 11537817)

#24: "alone" has a specific meaning.
Faith alone means faith not dependent on or supplemental to good works. See Romans 3 for a description of what faith means. "Abraham believed G-d, and it was reckoned to him as righteousness."
Scripture alone means not dependent on any writings other than the ones in Scripture. In other words, what the Pope says has no bearing.
Grace alone means we can do nothing to deserve salvation. Salvation is utterly dependent on the work of G-d. It cannot be earned or bought.
"alone" means not mixed with any other operative force.
See the Formula of Concord for details.
These three pillars were insisted on by Luther.
And they were based on years of reverent study of Scripture.



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Reply 33 - Posted by: daisymay, 2/8/2018 3:41:37 PM     (No. 11537825)

I´m glad to get some clarity on which Synod allowed this to happen. I was raised in the Missouri Synod (Parochial school for 8 grades) and I have always known them to be the strictest of the Synods. I don´t think Lutherans should jump ship just because of this one Rogue church and Minister. Catholics have held firm while their Pastors molested little boys. They also have become more and more lenient on Gay Marriage. I think we all need to just hold firm in our beliefs and let the chips fall where they may. We can choose which Church to attend, so we do not have to support this Pastor who is giving all Lutherans a bad name! God will decide who is right!

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Reply 34 - Posted by: dvc, 2/8/2018 4:23:02 PM     (No. 11537866)

Thank you, #32. Good information.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: lakerman1, 2/8/2018 4:43:31 PM     (No. 11537880)

This ELCA Lutheran, watching this stuff taking place, is as uncomfortable as a Christian Scientist with appendicitis.


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Reply 36 - Posted by: Postaway, 2/8/2018 8:59:56 PM     (No. 11538081)

I am LC Missouri Synod and joined because this type of hipster nonsense drove me from the Episcopal Church. There is no reason that a person at odds with reality cannot join a church, including a congregation that wishes to be taken seriously. There is, however, an obvious imperative that such a person not act as a leader of that church. Inclusiveness doesn’t mean collective mental illness. This leads to things like the New Hope Methodist Church becoming Marsha Brown’s Creole Restaurant complete with ironic stained glass windows of biblical stories next door to the Wiccan shop and the tattoo parlor.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: Harlowe, 2/8/2018 9:07:09 PM     (No. 11538087)

#32- Excellent post, sincerely appreciated.

#24- #32 is correct. St. Paul makes it easy to understand “Sola gratia,Sola fide,Sola scriptura” in the words of Ephesians2:8-9 – “For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.” God’s mercy is generous toward the undeserving.(Romans5:12-21) Grace “is like the benefit of the Lord Jesus Christ upon the cross, which is not a work, but a treasure included in the Word. It is offered to us and received by faith.”

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Reply 38 - Posted by: Harlowe, 2/8/2018 9:07:16 PM     (No. 11538088)

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Through faith, God’s gift, is the opposite of works and sight; a trust in God’s gifts, now and to come. (Luke 7:50, Romans 1:17, Galatians 2:16).

Salvation is not the result of works: “Neither Jews who obey the Torah, nor Gentiles who heed their conscience, may claim a reward from God (Romans 3:19-31). Ultimately, “Christ’s merit is obtained not by our works or pennies, but from grace through faith, without money and merit.”

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Reply 39 - Posted by: Harlowe, 2/8/2018 9:07:25 PM     (No. 11538090)

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The Holy Bible – “Whoever believes and holds to Christ’s Word, heaven stands open to him, hell is shut, the devil is imprisoned, sins are forgiven, and he is a child of eternal life. That is what this book teaches you—the Holy Scripture—and no other book on earth.” Martin Luther (WA 48:155)

Soli Deo Gloria! – To God alone be the glory!

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Reply 40 - Posted by: Ribald1, 2/8/2018 11:37:56 PM     (No. 11538162)

This is disrespectful to the One who created the two sexes.
The hubris of one who would claim that God made a mistake that needs corrected by His creation is blasphemy of the highest order.
She obviously sees herself as superior to God and on a mission to correct his failings.
Any church that embraces this is not a church of God.


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Reply 41 - Posted by: Timber Queen, 2/9/2018 12:30:31 AM     (No. 11538185)

#32 – Thank you for answering my question. You clarified the issue for me.

#33 – “They also have become more and more lenient on Gay Marriage.” It was unclear if you were referring the Lutherans or the Catholics. The Catholic Church has not changed its prohibition against gender-neutral “marriages”. Practicing Catholics who are homosexual or lesbian are called to chastity as are single heterosexuals. There are many special ministries available to those who live with such temptations.

#37,38,39 – Thank you, as always, for the Scripture quotes. Catholics also believe that salvation is a Grace Gift from God, totally outside any effort of ours. Although it is a common misconception Catholics do not believe that our works will save us but, just like the fig tree we will be known by our fruits. We are commanded by Christ to be His hands and feet in the world. We do believe that Scripture without Tradition to guide interpretation can lead believers into dangerous waters. Oral Tradition was the basis of Christian belief before The Bible was assembled in the 4th century. The Pope is infallible in only matters of faith and morals. The last papal bull on dogma was in 1854, when the Church formalized the teaching on the Immaculate Conception of Mary. Infallible papal declarations are very rare.

AMDG – For the Greater Glory of God.

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Reply 42 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 2/9/2018 2:56:01 AM     (No. 11538223)

I don´t care which denomination they are, it´s weird and a mental illness. But, that is between them and their G-d. Who am I to judge and cast the first stone?

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Reply 43 - Posted by: Harlowe, 2/9/2018 10:47:09 PM     (No. 11539138)

#41- As always, enlightening exchanges sincerely appreciated.

#42- “Judge, cast first stone.” When a believer falls into sin, believers are to try to encourage the sinner to examine the fault.(Matthew 18:15-20) Rather than being judgmental, the attempt is more like compassion that would impel a medical professional to care for an injured person. Jesus gave the keys of the kingdom of heaven to the Apostles (clergy) to forgive or refuse to forgive sins(Matthew 16:19). Believers need to pray for sinners who show no concern for their souls, and work to win them back so they will not be lost forever.

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U.S. figure skater Adam Rippon did not medal in his final event at the 2018 Winter Olympics, but he remains an Olympic star nonetheless. Rippon emerged as a fan favorite during the Olympics, loved especially for the artistic beauty of his routine, his honesty and hilarious tweets. He also made headlines for a feud with Vice President Mike Pence over the politician’s stance on gay rights. The skater took home a bronze medal in the team event for figure skating. Rippon finished in the men’s figure skating long program Friday, and although he didn’t earn a medal in that event, it was

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New Yorker, by Ronan Farrow    Original Article
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Time Magazine, by Sean Gregory    Original Article
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PJ Media, by Andrew Klavan    Original Article
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PJ Media, by Susan Goldberg    Original Article
Posted By: MissMolly- 2/18/2018 4:40:09 AM     Post Reply
Now that the gun control advocates have had their fifteen minutes of fame, let’s start focusing on the real issues impacting the rise in school shootings since that infamous day in Columbine in 1999. Issue number one that no one in the mainstream media or government wants to acknowledge: fatherlessness. Specifically, the impact of fatherlessness on the boys who grew up to become school shooters. Dr. Warren Farrell, author of the new book The Boy Crisis, explains: Minimal or no father involvement, whether due to divorce, death, or imprisonment, is common to Adam Lanza, Elliott Rodgers, Dylan Roof and Stephen Paddock. In the


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