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George W. Bush: Russia
meddled in 2016 U.S. election

Associated Press, by Staff

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Posted By:Attercliffe, 2/8/2018 6:00:10 AM

ABU DHABI, United Arab Emirates – Former President George W. Bush says “there’s pretty clear evidence that the Russians meddled” in the 2016 U.S. president election. Bush made the comments in a talk in Abu Dhabi, the capital of the United Arab Emirates. Bush also said that Russian President Vladimir Putin “is zero-sum. He can’t think, ‘How can we both win?’ He only thinks, ‘How do I win, you lose?´” Bush also said that the United States needs to reform its immigration law. While not directly naming President Donald Trump, it appeared Bush was targeting him in his comments. Bush

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Kitty Myers, 2/8/2018 6:21:54 AM     (No. 11537132)

This article leaves a lot unwritten. Oh well, the AP is part of the drive-by media.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: hpmatt, 2/8/2018 6:30:20 AM     (No. 11537138)

Geo is such a wise man....
It w/b interesting if Texans re-elect Geo P. this fall...

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Reply 3 - Posted by: M2, 2/8/2018 6:36:17 AM     (No. 11537144)

Get out the Bushes.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Pros7767, 2/8/2018 6:38:25 AM     (No. 11537146)

A once respected President becomes a bigger and bigger disappointment with every passing day.

He owns the immigration debacle as much as Obama does. Then again, the CoC and globalists owned him. Screw the American people.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: MainelySane, 2/8/2018 6:49:25 AM     (No. 11537152)

The U.S. as a matter of policy meddles in elections around the world.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Nina584, 2/8/2018 6:49:42 AM     (No. 11537153)

A certified idiot.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: jerseytomato, 2/8/2018 6:51:46 AM     (No. 11537155)

#5 - so true.

Meanwhile, George NEVER said anything about Obama for eight years.

What happened to not speaking about a sitting President??

Moreover, anyone else notice how he skipped around the REAL news of Obama/Clinton/Holder/Comey, etc????

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Reply 8 - Posted by: jinx, 2/8/2018 7:09:05 AM     (No. 11537169)

I´ve always thought the Bushes liked the Clintons a bit too much. He is trying to cover her b__t in some way by trying to implement Pres. Trump. Wonder how much he got to make that speech! Money talks. Follow it!

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Rinktum, 2/8/2018 7:10:19 AM     (No. 11537170)

George W. is becoming a tedious fool when he insinuates his displeasure with this President but kept his mouth firmly closed when Obama was wreaking havoc on this country. Frankly, I don’t care what he says about anything. He has become a huge disappointment because he let the media roll him and gave them more power than he should have. They certainly gained confidence during his presidency. Had he challenged them or even defended himself, I don’t believe they would be quite the rapacious jackals they have become.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: jackburton, 2/8/2018 7:19:59 AM     (No. 11537178)

It´s obvious that the dead have ´meddled´ in the election... that there were people double voting... that the elderly gave their votes to ´helpers´...

...and, of course, the illegals/non-citizens.

Of all of these, you only have a concern about Russian influence?

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Muncsdad, 2/8/2018 7:24:09 AM     (No. 11537181)

Shut up George. I gave you a lot of money in campaign contributions. I want a refund.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: lakerman1, 2/8/2018 7:29:13 AM     (No. 11537185)

I´m with #11 on this.
I supported 43 more than any other president.
It saddens me to see him talk this way.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: govlawyer, 2/8/2018 7:31:16 AM     (No. 11537186)

As each day´s revelations come forth, it´s clear that he´s absolutely correct: Russia did meddle in the election, and their collusion was with Her Thighness.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Safari Man, 2/8/2018 7:38:16 AM     (No. 11537188)

I voted for Cheney.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Scout Finch, 2/8/2018 7:44:30 AM     (No. 11537191)

When the Democrats and the media pounded George Bush for eight years with no defense or pushback from him, it left us conservatives perplexed and demoralized. Now, as Bush has denigrated Trump throughout the campaign season and his presidency while not uttering an unkind word about Obama throughout his 8 years, we´re seeing how entangled in the swamp the Bush family is, ending with Low Energy Jeb! Bush.

No more Kennedy´s, no more Clinton´s, and no more Bushes!

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Felixcat, 2/8/2018 7:49:33 AM     (No. 11537197)

Hey George - not one word of criticism of Obama or the his policies or the USA during Obama´s reign. Heck, if you travelled overseas during those years, you certainly didn´t criticize Obama or the US. But now, while Trump is President - you can´t keep your mouth shut; her or overseas. A disgrace. The salvaged official portrait of you that I had has since been flung into the trash can.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Bubby, 2/8/2018 8:17:03 AM     (No. 11537217)

First his bromance with the Clintons and obamas now his channeling of Jeb what a globalist fool George has turned out to be. George go back to your easel and just shut up like you did for obama!

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Clinger, 2/8/2018 8:26:00 AM     (No. 11537228)

Any faith I had in the Bush cabal went out the day I heard the words "new world order." I had hoped GW would be an American president but alas that wasn´t so.

Bush need not position such statements to target Trump, over half the nation and the vast majority of media will leap to the conclusion that a former POTUS is endorsing the notion that Trump colluded with Russia to steal the election. The lack of clearly stating he meant no such thing, given the political climate, means he fully intended to add fuel to the fire that is attempting to burn down a presidency. Its sedition and he´s participating. I, appalled; one of the worst acts of any former POTUS. Take your resistance and stuff it.

Selling our national interests, Uranium, missile technology for personal gain is no big deal as long as one of the swamp creatures does it. Trump spits on the sidewalk and its a constitutional crisis.

God save us and MAGA.




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Reply 19 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 2/8/2018 8:26:29 AM     (No. 11537229)

Who gave him that info? What investigative agency did he use to get it? What information does he have, specifically to prove his point? If I were a Senate Committee Chairperson, I would immediately invite the ex-President to come forward before the committee and tell us the details that support his remark!

It is blatantly stupid statements like that that hurt a nation. And that horse´s A55 does it in a foreign country filled with Billionaires who hate our country! But, then again, G.W. Bush is a blatantly stupid man.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: steveW, 2/8/2018 8:42:16 AM     (No. 11537244)

Is it true the Bushes all voted for Felonia von Pantsuit, or is that just a rumour?

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Throwback, 2/8/2018 9:02:46 AM     (No. 11537260)

Just accept the fact your brother is a dork. Don´t lash out at the guy who prevented him from loosing badly and handing what´s left of our Country over to a traitor.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: zephyrgirl, 2/8/2018 9:19:30 AM     (No. 11537281)

I seem to remember that W had a "bromance" with Putin ("Pootie-Poot") in the early days of his presidency.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Amereagle-redux, 2/8/2018 9:22:17 AM     (No. 11537284)

George was a good man very early in his Presidency, the right person at the right time after 9-11. But overall he was a terrible President with no ability to defend American principles or fight back against the hard left and the enemedia. And let’s be honest, the Bush family (who are my distant cousins) are a founding component of The Swamp.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: sailannapolis, 2/8/2018 9:26:16 AM     (No. 11537294)

After working hard for your reelection you have become one of "them" maybe you always were. You got us into a war, which you publicly stated that the oil from Iran and Afghanistan would "Pay" for your grudge war.
Why didn´t you end this did you keep our precious military over there so a democrats could end it?
Mr. Bush, please if you have something to say about our President Trump, say it on American soil. You are a contemptible person.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: citizen, 2/8/2018 9:26:36 AM     (No. 11537296)

The U.S. under Obama´s State Dep´t directly interfered with Israeli national election.
Seems George W. has "forgotten" that as do other RINO´s.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: hoopsfan, 2/8/2018 9:40:58 AM     (No. 11537317)

George HW Bush, George W Bush, and nominees McCain and Romney -- wow, in retrospect they don´t look good. And to see them fail to support President Trump, who actually is fighting the fights that need to be won, so disappointing.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Ribicon, 2/8/2018 9:42:00 AM     (No. 11537318)

"Miss me yet?"
Less and less with each passing day.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: FunOne, 2/8/2018 9:51:10 AM     (No. 11537330)

I do not regret contributing to, and supporting GW Bush. At the time, he was the better choice, and I am glad he won.
But I have now lost all respect for the Bush family, and hope we never see in political office another Bush, or a Clinton, or a Kennedy.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: bighambone, 2/8/2018 9:58:10 AM     (No. 11537342)

History shows that the Bush clan are very liberal Republicans who disguised themselves as being “compassionate conservatives”. During his time in office as the liberal and progressive Democrats trashed his character, his personal and professional reputations, and his policies, G.W. Bush remained silent thus allowing his political enemies to essentially kick him into the gutter without Bush offering any effective defense. That was a big part of the political pathway that allowed the liberal and progressive Democrats to successfully get he most liberal and socialist President in histor, Barack Obama, to be elected. After that happened G.W. Bush again remained silent as Obama went around blaming his for all of the nation’s ills.

Now G.W. Bush shows up in a Middle East country adversely commenting on President Bush and putting down the US immigration laws, the non-enforcement of which during the Bush Administration to supply an unlimited supply of cheap foreign labor for hire by US Chamber of Commerce members exasperated the illegal alien situation. Clearly as far as he immigration laws were concerned G.W. Bush and his ineffective immigration enforcement policies were a big part of the problem and encouraged more mass uncontrolled illegal immigration. Give us a break!

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Reply 30 - Posted by: hotcorner, 2/8/2018 10:02:39 AM     (No. 11537352)

We need more businessmen and women like Trump and less "professional" politicians like the Clinton´s, Bushes and Obama´s. There is a new day coming in politics if we dare to make it happen. These politicians get lifetime jobs, pensions, health care and benefits for their families for WHAT? The people always get screwed with them.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: strike3, 2/8/2018 10:09:33 AM     (No. 11537365)

If GWB´s aim is to compete with Jimmy Carter and Barack Obama, he is getting closer to his goal.

At the time he attacked Saddam, I supported him with the belief that he was going to finish the job. Wrong assumption. The only thing Saddam was doing wrong was killing Iraqis and Iranians, a far better situation than killing Americans and spawning ISIS. Yes, his "surge" was a good move but it followed the mistake of not having enough troops there for years.

Go home and cut some brush on the ranch, George, or grow some nads and give that speech in Washington instead of in front of the muslim world. I have some eggs and tomatoes with your name all over them.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: mickturn, 2/8/2018 10:29:29 AM     (No. 11537398)

W, PROVE IT or SHUTUP!

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Reply 33 - Posted by: bighambone, 2/8/2018 10:30:59 AM     (No. 11537399)

History shows that the Bush clan are very liberal Republicans who disguised themselves as being “compassionate conservatives”. During his time in office as the liberal and progressive Democrats trashed his character, his personal and professional reputations, and his policies, G.W. Bush remained silent thus allowing his political enemies to essentially kick him into the gutter without Bush offering any effective defense. That as a big part of the political pathway that allowed the liberal and progressive Democrats to successfully get he most liberal and socialist President in history to be elected. After that happened G.W. Bush again remained silent as Obama went around blaming his for all of the nation’s ills.

Now G.W. Bush shows up in a Middle East country adversely commenting on President Bush and putting down the US immigration laws, the non-enforcement of which to supply an unlimited supply of cheap foreign labor for hire by US Chamber of Commerce members. Clearly as far as he immigration laws were concerned G.W. bush and his policies were a big part of the problem. Give us a break!

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Reply 34 - Posted by: Virtudawg, 2/8/2018 10:38:57 AM     (No. 11537422)

W has become the post-presidency Jimmy Carter of the Republican Party.

What a sad situation . . .

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Reply 35 - Posted by: toodles3956, 2/8/2018 11:02:31 AM     (No. 11537478)

W is the biggest disappointment in my long, long life.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: dvc, 2/8/2018 11:03:51 AM     (No. 11537481)

"Meddled" could mean anything from a post on a Fakebook page to actually accessing voter machines.

IMO, these globalists who are desperate to smear Trump want to take real evidence of exceedingly minor and mostly irrelevant stuff like Fakebook posts and try to confuse/convince people that what they really mean is that Trump helped the Russians flip votes inside a voting machine which did NOT happen

When these guys go so totally overboard to oppose Trump, and while I see all the wonderful, right, proper, GOOD things that Trump is doing to help our country, I move them into my "never again be fooled by these liars" category. A whole lot of people that I used to be fooled into thinking were conservatives are now in that box.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: dvc, 2/8/2018 11:07:55 AM     (No. 11537493)

#29 and #33, how did that happen??

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Reply 38 - Posted by: bighambone, 2/8/2018 11:15:36 AM     (No. 11537508)

#37. It’s like my dog pushed the wrong button the second time around. Sorry everyone.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: rochow, 2/8/2018 11:16:46 AM     (No. 11537511)

Bush you did not open your mouth for 8 years, so continue keeping it shut. You are making a disgraceful spectacle of yourself!

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Reply 40 - Posted by: stablemoney, 2/8/2018 12:13:14 PM     (No. 11537631)

GW can give his speeches overseas. There is no interest here, unless GW wants to speak at the Democrat Convention.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: dvc, 2/8/2018 12:29:11 PM     (No. 11537655)

#38, no harm, just odd.

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Reply 42 - Posted by: NYbob, 2/8/2018 12:37:37 PM     (No. 11537659)

W completes the circle and shows us exactly how big a Deep Stater he is. There must be some dangling thread that connects him to a globalist in a way that he doesn´t want revealed. To cover his behind and his entire globalist loving family, he chips away at President Trump. The only interesting part of this anti Americanism is how difficult it might be for the progressives to embrace their new ally after hating him for their entire lives.

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Reply 43 - Posted by: enemyofthestate, 2/8/2018 12:50:26 PM     (No. 11537676)

I voted for George W. Bush. In his post-presidency, he digs his hole deeper and deeper.

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Reply 44 - Posted by: SALady, 2/8/2018 1:07:02 PM     (No. 11537692)

I recently saw a commercial featuring all of the living ex-presidents.

Wow, what a freak show of failure, stupidity and evil!!!!!

If you combined the intelligence and talent of all 5 of these losers, they wouldn´t be worth a single drop of Ronald Reagan´s sweat!!!!!

I am so glad that Donald Trump is my president right now!!!!!


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Reply 45 - Posted by: winnie1, 2/8/2018 1:31:09 PM     (No. 11537719)

Ya, Forrest Gump who is going to believe you? A quote from Forrest aka GWB “My mom always said life was like a box of chocolates. You never know what you´re gonna get.” And we got you and one hell of a mess you made in the Middle East.

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Reply 46 - Posted by: cheeflo, 2/9/2018 1:02:03 PM     (No. 11538702)

They probably did, but not in the way everyone seems to think. But, hey ... it´s what they do.

I read somewhere the opinion that Russia spends more cash, time, and energy on sowing disinformation than on "spying," per se. It´s easier, effective, and less expensive than actual espionage.

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AN earthquake has hit the UK with thousands of people reporting tremors across England from as far as Cornwall to Liverpool. Its epicentre fell about eight miles northeast of Swansea city centre, according to the US Geological Survey, sparking an evacuation at Swansea University. The EMSC, an independent scientific organisation based in Paris, said it measured 4.7 on the Richter scale, at a depth of 10km. Tremors were felt up to 300km, 190 miles, from the epicentre. It is the fifth biggest earthquake ever recorded in the UK and the biggest to rock Britain in ten years. EMSC estimated around



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Cybercast News Service, by Susan Jones    Original Article
Posted By: M2- 2/19/2018 11:08:26 AM     Post Reply
The FBI failed to investigate warnings about the Florida school shooter, but never mind that. And the National Rifle Association has no control over school shootings, but never mind that, either. Two newly minted gun control activists from Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida are defending the FBI, while demanding that NRA "child murderers" dismantle and disband. And they have declined an invitation to discuss their concerns with President Donald Trump, whom they call "disgusting."

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Breitbart Big Hollywood, by AWR Hawkins    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 2/18/2018 7:20:15 PM     Post Reply
On March 24 students from Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School and other schools around the country will march in hopes of pressuring Congress to pass more gun control. Although the March is officially titled “March for Our Lives,” BuzzfeedNews reports the march is indeed focused on securing gun control: (Video/Tweet) ABC News reports that South Broward High School students have already begun rallying for gun control, with Sophomore Genesis Campbell leading chants while holding a sign that read, “No more silence, end gun violence.” And this all comes after Nikolas Cruz complied with gun control to acquire a rifle, then

For the LGBT Community, Gus
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Time Magazine, by Sean Gregory    Original Article
Posted By: NorthernDog- 2/18/2018 11:17:43 AM     Post Reply
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Washington Post, by Cindy Boren    Original Article
Posted By: NorthernDog- 2/18/2018 9:18:15 AM     Post Reply
Adam Rippon, the openly gay figure skater who helped the United States win a bronze medal in team competition and became one of the biggest breakout stars of the PyeongChang Olympics, has gotten his first big break before the Winter Games have even concluded. Rippon, a darling of the competition for saying things that have been at turns smart, creative, and refreshing for viewers, has been hired by NBC as a correspondent for the rest of the Games. NBC confirmed the news, first reported by USA Today, with Rippon expected to work on TV as well as the digital and

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Daily Mail [UK], by Emily Crane    Original Article
Posted By: Harlowe- 2/19/2018 3:09:54 PM     Post Reply
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Daily Wire, by Hank Berrien    Original Article
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Daily Mail [UK], by Nikki Schwab    Original Article
Posted By: Attercliffe- 2/18/2018 6:58:47 PM     Post Reply
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The Hill [Washington, DC], by Avery Anapol    Original Article
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Adam Rippon to work for NBC for
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Yahoo Sports, by Travis Mewhirter    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 2/18/2018 10:20:10 AM     Post Reply
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Breitbart Video, by Pam Key    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 2/18/2018 9:07:56 AM     Post Reply
Friday on MSNBC’s “All In,” Rep. Jerry Nadler (D-NY) said Russian interference with U.S. elections and political processes that resulted in 13 indictments against Russian nationals was “equivalent” to the attack on Pearl Harbor by Japanese in 1941. Partial transcript as follows: NADLER: My reaction to the news is this is absolute proof of what we knew all along and what the president has denied, namely that we were attacked. This is a very serious attack against the United States by a hostile foreign power, an attack against our election process, our entire governing process. We know that the attack

Romney Is a Misfit for America
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National Review, by Michael Brendan Dougherty    Original Article
Posted By: Tishimself- 2/19/2018 7:57:44 AM     Post Reply
He has no idea how to make a majority of voters choose him. Mitt’s back. The former governor of Massachusetts and occasional native son of Michigan has a new persona: Mr. Utah. He’s going to bring Utah conservatism to the whole Republican party and to the country at large. Wholesome, efficient, industrious, faithful. “Utah has a lot to teach the politicians in Washington,” he says in announcing his Senate campaign. Maybe. There’s always been something unstable about Mitt Romney’s political identity.

Crown Heights residents fear
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New York Daily News, by Greg B. Smith    Original Article
Posted By: Ribicon- 2/19/2018 12:00:25 AM     Post Reply
The corner of Atlantic and Bedford Avenues in Crown Heights is Ground Zero of this middle-income neighborhood’s high anxiety. For the last two years, neighbors have complained to anyone who will listen that groups of men become an occupying force in the sidewalks around the huge 350-bed Atlantic Armory Men’s Shelter. On several recent mornings, the men were out en masse. Two Department of Homeless Services police officers leaned against the fence outside the 800-bed red-brick shelter. About 50 feet away a man nonchalantly urinated against the facility wall. Across Pacific St., men were sprawled on chairs and milk crates.


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