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´Settled Science´ Just Got Blown Up
Investor´s Business Daily, by Staff

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Posted By:RockyTCB, 2/5/2018 7:15:08 AM

Public Health: For decades, the federal government has been telling people to cut fats and increase carbs in their diet, relying on supposedly settled nutrition science. A new study shows that the advice has been completely wrong. In Woody Allen´s 1973 comedy, Sleeper, his character wakes up 200 years after routine surgery, and two doctors discuss his health status. The conversation goes like this: Dr. Melik: This morning for breakfast he requested something called "wheat germ, organic honey and tiger´s milk." Dr. Aragon: (chuckling) Oh, yes. Those are the charmed substances that some years ago were thought to contain life-preserving properties. Dr. Melik: You

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Postaway, 2/5/2018 7:26:23 AM     (No. 11534131)

This could mean that edible pork chops are in our future!

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Reply 2 - Posted by: jalo1951, 2/5/2018 7:37:16 AM     (No. 11534142)

I remember watching a doctor on tv who said that everything we believed today would be disproved within 10 years. Sounds like he was right.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Drive, 2/5/2018 7:40:56 AM     (No. 11534145)

looks like Dr. Atkins was right

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Reply 4 - Posted by: MoBeef4u, 2/5/2018 8:10:15 AM     (No. 11534174)

Anyone who claims that science is "settled" regarding any issue is either ignorant or lying. Science by its very nature is never settled.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: mc squared, 2/5/2018 8:17:36 AM     (No. 11534181)

I have empirical evidence that beer is good for us.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: qwerty, 2/5/2018 8:22:29 AM     (No. 11534189)

As soon as ANY govt. office says something is good or bad for you, I do the exact opposite. Just what business is it of the Grand Office of The Nanny Police what I do?
I always knew that the fat on the side of a 2" thick steak was the best part.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: chumley, 2/5/2018 8:24:59 AM     (No. 11534192)

I decided long ago that there is not as single scientific "expert" that is any smarter than your average hammer.
With the exception of carbs, I eat what I want in the quantities I want. I smoke because I want to, and I am more alive than a lot of dead non-smokers. I drink occasionally because I want to drink, occasionally. The stress of worrying about all those bad habits does more damage than the habits themselves.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Lawsy0, 2/5/2018 8:33:48 AM     (No. 11534200)

Submitted for your consideration: Despot regimes withhold goods, money and services from the hoi polloi so the leaders can gorge themselves thereon. Now food in their crosshairs. I´m no prophet, but hey!

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Reply 9 - Posted by: steveW, 2/5/2018 8:34:35 AM     (No. 11534201)

I think of that scene in Sleeper every time new "research" by the Food Police claims sugar is going to kill me.

Letting "experts" decide what you eat is going to turn out to be the most unhealthy thing of all.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: jimjr, 2/5/2018 9:42:26 AM     (No. 11534286)

The "Fats bad, carbs good" meme was foisted on the U.S. by the personal doctor of then President Dwight Eisenhower. After Eisenhower suffered a heart attack, his doctor said it was due to excessive fats in his diet. That started the low-fat diet fad that exists to this day.

No science, just one doctor´s "considered opinion".

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Reply 11 - Posted by: galbaccr, 2/5/2018 9:54:38 AM     (No. 11534307)

I decided, for myself, many years ago that the science about excess fat in the blood leading to heart disease and strokes was correct. But - what was wrong was the source of the fats. I decided that it was the high amount of carbs that made the body produce the bad blood fats. I had gone for a year, in the 90´s, with no red meat and very little fowl (chicken, etc). My cholesterol was stuck close to 200. The doc put me on Lipitor and it went down some. My wife had been making stuff like vegetarian spaghetti sauce, etc. I said the heck with that. We went back to drinking 2% & whole milk, eating lots of cheese, red meats, reducing carbs and eating what I was raised on. My cholesterol plummeted and has been around 140-150 for almost 20 years now. I tried to tell a doctor what I was doing and he was aghast and told me I was wrong. I´m almost 80 years old and, though my eyes are failing & my hearing is not good, the rest of me seems to be good. Even injuries heal quickly. So - I think this study has it right!

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Reply 12 - Posted by: galbaccr, 2/5/2018 9:57:03 AM     (No. 11534311)

Sorry for the second post - my original one said my cholesterol was stuck near 200 - that was wrong - it was in the 290´s (close to 300) for several years. My morning fat fingers made the mistake. Sorry.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Hotrod, 2/5/2018 10:10:11 AM     (No. 11534334)

FTA: Obesity rates went up after 1960-1980.

Not to mention the explosion of fast-food chains and convenience stores! Since then, you can get any kind of high-calorie food you want, at any time of the day or night!

How many people know the calorie count of a good burger? pizza?, fried chicken?

It may not be the cholesterol that will kill people, but obesity will.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: mickturn, 2/5/2018 10:11:48 AM     (No. 11534337)

There is NO such thing as Settled Science. Science is a constant reevaluation of evidence.

Look at how much we keep learning on things we ´THOUGHT´ we knew!

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Lucky5, 2/5/2018 11:02:32 AM     (No. 11534428)

I am a lifetime lower carb eater. From my own experience of when I eat lots of sugar and carbs I get heartburn and feel terrible. I am normal weight. I eat a reasonable amount of carbs a day like 80-100. With some splurges on holidays and occasions.
The current recommendation for my age and height is 350-400 and most people eat much more. Sugar is culprit. It is in so many foods. Dr. Atkins was right all these years.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Vaquero45, 2/5/2018 11:22:15 AM     (No. 11534459)

#10 is correct. They blamed Ike’s heart attack on his diet. They conveniently ignored the four packs of Camels that he smoked every day for 30 years!k

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Reply 17 - Posted by: strike3, 2/5/2018 11:55:59 AM     (No. 11534514)

I´ve had a similar life experience as #11. My diet secret is to limit volume but eat anything and everything I please (he says as he munches on his bacon). I constantly tell doctors and nurses that I refuse to take high blood pressure or cholesterol medication because the drugs are more harmful than the higher numbers, which I believe are just conditions of nature. I usually read 140s to 150s on systolic. My statements, of course, give THEM coronaries. I am of normal weight, can walk and/or bicycle for miles and feel great. Remember, medical care is an industry and the primary goal of ALL industry is to increase sales. Their most recent strategy to increase sales was to lower acceptable blood pressure from 130 to 120. See where I´m going with this? Do you know anybody over 50 who is NOT on blood pressure or cholesterol medication?

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Reply 18 - Posted by: plex, 2/5/2018 1:22:04 PM     (No. 11534632)

Atkins was almost right. Too much protein in Atkins. Ketogenic says 60-75% of your calories from fat and 15-30% protein. Significant weight loss and better blood numbers. It can get tough though.... You start on 20 grams of carbs a day for a couple of weeks to drive your body into ketosis (consume body fat) but still must keep carbs very low. Lots of info on the web

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Beancounter, 2/5/2018 2:12:54 PM     (No. 11534666)

The way my son was treated by doctors was exactly the opposite of the treatment I received as a kid in the late 60’s and early 70’s. I had a check up recently and the doctor said: “What did they do to you?” And the doctors back then were as confident as they are now.

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