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Take a step back: Did Trump
really even say the s-word?

American Thinker, by Tom Trinko

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Posted By:magnante, 1/14/2018 8:24:35 AM

Our first step in responding to the fake news firestorm about what Trump did or didn´t say about some African countries is to figure out what Trump actually said. Two leakers say he used the term "s---holes" to describe Haiti and African countries. However, the only person corroborating that as this is being written is a Democrat. Given that Harry Reid gleefully admitted to lying about Mitt Romney not paying taxes, it´s not irrational to question that Democrat´s veracity. We also know that the leakers were willing to hurt the U.S. in order to gain a partisan political advantage. The leakers knew


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Reply 1 - Posted by: snapper451, 1/14/2018 8:41:30 AM     (No. 11509857)

Durbin has done this before when he has misrepresented, with great veracity, what others have said in the White House. Ask about his earlier and chronic lies. Dems will say anything to discredit this President and prevent making America great again.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: doctorfixit, 1/14/2018 8:45:44 AM     (No. 11509861)

Durbin is the sleaziest scum on the planet but I don´t care if Trump said it or not. It´s the truth. Democrats like Durbin are turning the US into a s--hole for sure.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: M2, 1/14/2018 9:04:31 AM     (No. 11509875)

What is so gratifying about the entire sh**hole controversy is that now people are investigating whether or not Haiti and other countries really are sh**holes and finding out that yes, they are.

There is nothing like the disinfecting light of truth to reveal Trump´s dead-eye aim.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: bigken2, 1/14/2018 9:05:30 AM     (No. 11509879)

little dick has done this before dont think for a second that he is not full of ****

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Reply 5 - Posted by: rolfnader, 1/14/2018 9:06:24 AM     (No. 11509882)

Durbin had nothing to gain by making this public -even if the president DID say it. I´ll tell you what he has to lose and it will be seen in his next bid for re-election ( I don´t care enough about this anti-American weasel to even look up the year). Soon the voters in Iowa, like those in neighboring states , will be experiencing an economy that is no longer focused on fake gas production aka ethanol-and will vote for just about anyone who will work with president Trump until VP Pence takes over in 2025.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: MDConservative, 1/14/2018 9:15:38 AM     (No. 11509891)

He said a naughty, disparaging word. He did not say that. They say he did. They say they didn´t hear it. They lie. They lie, too.

Really, far too much energy is expended on this nonsense, at the expense of bigger fish neither side wants to fry. Which is the reason for "He said it"...

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Reply 7 - Posted by: scottc, 1/14/2018 9:16:57 AM     (No. 11509893)

This is what I have been saying from word Go. There is zero evidence Trump said this but the hysteria from the leftwing over hearsay is the real story.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: strike3, 1/14/2018 9:27:50 AM     (No. 11509906)

Puerto Rico can be included in that list. Their government and people have been taking advantage of American taxpayers ever since "Operation Bootstrap" began in the fifties to attempt to make them self-sufficient. During the last hurricane they sat on their butts and watched tons of food and medical supplies from the US rot on the docks. And not all of them are brown-skinned, the original natives were pure white.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: KanCreeper, 1/14/2018 9:34:17 AM     (No. 11509913)

IF HAITI is still a s***hole..
IT begs the question:
"What happened to that $13.5 BILLION $$$$$ raised to rebuild it AFTER THE EARTHQUAKE?" Seems like The Clinton´s, and their Foundation were pretty prominent in that fund raising effort... MORE QUESTIONS LOOKING FOR ANSWERS!

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Reply 10 - Posted by: sorosisbehindit, 1/14/2018 9:36:56 AM     (No. 11509918)

We all know the term "selective hearing".
What we might have here is "creative hearing".
Haven´t we all been in a conversation where you said one thing, and the person who anticipated your thoughts and motives reported different verbiage when they recounted the conversation?

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Reply 11 - Posted by: bighambone, 1/14/2018 9:59:44 AM     (No. 11509952)

When the liberal Democrats have nothing else they always revert to using the race card. At the moment the liberal Democrats and their political agenda relating to illegal aliens and the out of control immigration system have lost the confidence of the American people. That’s why the liberal Democrats have lost so many elections during the last eight years including losing control of the Congress and the White House.

At the moment having nothing to offer the American people who do not support their “open borders” agenda, the liberal Democrats are following their usual game plan, springing into action using the race card.

Certain liberal Democrat Senators, all amnesty supporters, who appointed themselves as bipartisan negotiators pushing a DACA amnesty were at a White House closed door private meeting attended by the President and others where very frank comments were made and positions explained. At the end the President rejected the liberal Democrat position on a DACA amnesty obviously discombobulating the liberal Democrat Senators.

Those liberal Democrat Senators then left the meeting and rushed to leak to the liberal media that the President used the word “S**thole” to describe certain foreign countries obviously in an effort to gain political advantage and to embarrass the President. The anti-Trump media and the liberal Democrats then extrapolated the President’s supposed “S**thole” comment as evidence that he is a racist.

It appears that the predication for whatever comment the President actually did make addressed proposals by the liberal Democrats for a massive amnesty, to give more “rights” to illegal aliens, and to allow more immigrants into the USA from “s**thole” countries who are poor, uneducated, and unskilled individuals, with their families, who the Democrats believe will eventually be socialist oriented natural Democrat voters. Clearly President Trump was not elected to go along with such a proposal.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Spidey, 1/14/2018 10:00:08 AM     (No. 11509953)

I believe Trump used the language even though Dick Turbin probably took is a step or two further. If Trump didn´t say ith,e would have ad a press conference knocking it down completely.The GOP members in the room said they didn´t remember,that was far from an absoluted denial.Even though most people believe the mentioned countries are what Trump said,it´s just not something you can say as president. The question was rhetorical anyway,it wasn´t a statement of fact.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: clayusmcret, 1/14/2018 10:20:38 AM     (No. 11509983)

It doesn´t really matter if he did or not. Regardless of the exact wording, describing a s***hole country a s***hole country is not racist. It is being honest. Also being honest is the need to bring people to America who can assist us in productive growth, not just in numbers. A person needs to bring with himself/herself more than just the ability to breed and create more votes for one party or another.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: columba, 1/14/2018 10:22:58 AM     (No. 11509989)

Citing as sources two people who were NOT at the meeting, the Washington Post reported that President Trump decried immigration from countries such as Haiti.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: DCGIRL, 1/14/2018 10:28:19 AM     (No. 11510004)

Senator Cotton said he never heard Trump say S**thole. I believe Cotton over two unnamed sources that did NOT attend the meeting.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Dr. Constant, 1/14/2018 10:42:10 AM     (No. 11510028)

Trump should own this.

It is a win for him because he can force the demonrats hand on immigration.

"So you don´t think (Land X) is a sh*thole? Then you won´t mind me sending the illegals back there. After all, you´ve just said it a place with a wonderful culture and lovely people. So, therefore, you support my immigration platform."


When the deamondogs try to backpedal that statement President Trump should say "OK so you agree that (Land X) is a sh*thole. Why should we let people from a play like that come here?"

If Trump plays this right it could be an astute political move.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: joew9, 1/14/2018 10:42:37 AM     (No. 11510029)

If the country produces refugees then it is a s---hole.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: ginadee, 1/14/2018 10:53:24 AM     (No. 11510043)

maybe pres. trump should not have said s***hole. he should have cleaned it up and called them poopholes.

yes, that is much better.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: controlfreak, 1/14/2018 11:38:47 AM     (No. 11510074)

If he really did say it, and you resent that fact, I suggest you go to Haiti and live there for a few months, then come back and tell me it´s not a shirthole.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: kono, 1/14/2018 11:58:41 AM     (No. 11510083)

#10 rings familiar... Many of us have run into that in real-time, with the other person arguing against what they expected us to say, or throwing strawmen at us until we grow weary from repeatedly protesting, "That´s not what I said" and "I never said that."

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Hazymac, 1/14/2018 12:26:16 PM     (No. 11510099)

The key sentence in this excellent essay is this: "The real problem for the Democrats is that Trump is saying what most Americans believe: the role of immigration is to help America, not to help the rest of the world." Within that sentence is a grain of truth that should be bruited far and wide. It´s a winning issue for PDJT and anyone else with sufficient courage to face the Democrat ululators.

Democrats want illegal voters; the shortsighted Chamber of Commerce wants cheap labor. The rest of us want a more prosperous America peopled by those who love liberty and want to become Americans. The rest shouldn´t even be here.

Although Trump´s alleged (by two Democrats) profanity has made it around the world ten times, and sounds like something he might have said (it´s true, after all), I believe that the kakistocrat Dick Durbin is lying, which is long a pastime and deeply ingrained habit of this ridiculous scoundrel whose presence in the Senate is a black mark on a majority of Illinois voters.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: dman, 1/14/2018 2:45:56 PM     (No. 11510244)

"What difference, at this point, does it make?" /s

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Reply 23 - Posted by: dvc, 1/14/2018 3:19:58 PM     (No. 11510292)

Well said, #21.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: saguni, 1/14/2018 5:30:45 PM     (No. 11510447)

What happened with regards to the White House meeting has happened a thousand times before, and the MSM has, yet again, failed its responsibility to honestly report factual "news."

When a (known liar) DemonRAT comes to a reporter with a story "too good to fact check" that is the time they should fact check more carefully. But--NO--it is too good to fact check so they run with it.

Then they whine when Trump calls out their "fake news" and say a free press is necessary for the republic.

I say "an honest press is much more important, if we are to have a well-informed public."
The press is so biased, I check out my door when they say it is raining.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: belwhatter, 1/14/2018 8:32:07 PM     (No. 11510621)

#16 absolutely brilliant take on the hoo ha.

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In an exclusive interview with Utah Gov. Gary Herbert, FOX Business was told that Romney, the 2012 Republican presidential nominee, will likely receive the backing of mega-donors, not just within Utah, but across the country as he gets ready to announce his candidacy. “He’s given me every indication that he’s running. He’ll have a lot of support from the wealthy people that he knows from when he ran for president. The people on the same list of donors that he had before for 2012, including those from Utah, is a very good place for him to raise money,” Herbert, a

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