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´He feels really bad´: Civil Defense employee
who sparked terror in Hawaii by accidentally
triggering ballistic MISSILE warning will be ´retrained´
say officials after thousands fled to bomb shelters

Daily Mail UK, by Keith Griffith and Jennifer Smith

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Posted By:ladydawgfan, 1/13/2018 11:38:16 PM

A Civil Defense employee is set to be retrained after a shocking blunder on Saturday morning, when a mistaken alert warning of an inbound ballistic missile sent thousands fleeing for shelter. The false alarm was caused by a Hawaii Emergency Management Agency employee who ´pushed the wrong buttons´ during an internal drill timed to coincide with a shift handover at 8.07am. The all-clear phone alert was not sent until 38 minutes later. Incredibly, officials said the employee who made the mistake wasn´t aware of it until mobile phones in the command center began displaying the alert. ´This guy feels bad,

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Retrained??!! He should be strung up be his gonads for all of the panic he caused!!! People putting their children in storm drains!! Others calling loved ones on the mainland to say goodbye!! But, hey, as long as he feeeeels really bad.....

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: luandir, 1/13/2018 11:43:55 PM     (No. 11509685)

This clown has no business being trusted with so much as a burnt-out match.

For once, government, demonstrate the concept of personal responsibility by example.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: qwerty, 1/14/2018 12:03:32 AM     (No. 11509694)

I look at this as a VERY big oooppps. I´m not saying it´s one bit funny and it could have been much worse.
I would like to know just how much training he had before being put in that position.
Everybody here who spent any time in military understands the amount of training we would get before being allowed to do anything. Especially on our own.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: mc squared, 1/14/2018 12:07:12 AM     (No. 11509701)

Not the first time. In 1971, Cheyenne CO sent out a national emergency warning to the media.

This is an air check of those announcements.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1B1EAeh6H_I

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Reply 4 - Posted by: JustCause, 1/14/2018 12:10:13 AM     (No. 11509702)

I´m wondering WHY there is no conversation that WE DIDN´T RESPOND to the incoming missile.

It was 38 minutes to denounce the threat - Did we have to recall or destroy the missiles we fired in response, recall the B2 or F111 bombers ???? Or, is the plan to absorb the first strike and complain about it at the UN ??

Now, little Rocketman knows how long he has before ANY kind of response is launched.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 1/14/2018 12:13:57 AM     (No. 11509703)

"Hey Kono, hold my Kahlua and watch this.."
s/o

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 1/14/2018 12:29:54 AM     (No. 11509710)

I posted a thingy on one site where I said, I bet the guy is a Democrat gimmi job dude, and sure enough, I was right. The place is a nest of nothing but Democratic party idiots and this is what happens. If the person responsible had been a white man he would be toasted. There could have been only one reason the Gov was reluctant to come out and say "Responsible party must be fired!" he was scared the guy would be a minority, a gay, a woman, a felon, an illegal or a tranny. So, they go, "Well, he feels really bad...so, can´t we just move on?" With Democrats all personal responsibility ends with a progressive card. The guy could have nuked Hawaii himself and not gotten fired for it so long as he was one of the "chosen" favorite people.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: JediJerry, 1/14/2018 12:33:11 AM     (No. 11509711)

The guy is Hawaiian and Hawaiians smoke a lot of Maui Wowie. He needs to be drug tested but that’s probably not going to happen. My bet is he was high as a kite and stoned like a Roman statue. Eh brah you smoke em da kine at work yeah? No worries eh. Surfs up so we go catchem some barrels then back work till pau hana for missile test ok brah.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: trashcann, 1/14/2018 12:50:57 AM     (No. 11509714)

Was stationed on Hawaii for 4 years and I could have told you he would not be fired. To do so would have exposed the incompetence of all his supervisors and the people at the top.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: mean Gene, 1/14/2018 1:16:23 AM     (No. 11509721)

The slacker is a son or in-law´s son of some elected official or high up in gov´t work.
HA puts out ads for people to apply for good state jobs, but, if you really qualify they let you know there´s no point bothering coming over unless you want a vaca.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: chumley, 1/14/2018 3:04:18 AM     (No. 11509734)

I dont know what software they use for this program, but I got trained on the one they use at my work for the same purpose. It is a freaking nightmare! It is unnecessarily complicated, confusing and I cant believe anyone paid for that carp. If you dont use it every day, you´re going to mess up when you DO use it.
I´m going to hold back on judging this one for now. I´ve seen how lousy the system can be.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: DCGIRL, 1/14/2018 6:31:02 AM     (No. 11509771)

My bet is that it was done on purpose by this person. From what I have read, things just don´t add up.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: thelmalou, 1/14/2018 6:46:50 AM     (No. 11509775)

OK, I buy that pushing the alert button could have been an accident. But it took 38 MINUTES to cancel the alert?!?!?

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Rakasha, 1/14/2018 7:08:18 AM     (No. 11509785)

FTA. The EMA administrator said that cooling tensions between North and South Korea should have been a signal to residents that the alert was mistaken, urging Hawaiians to ´keep informed on what´s going on on the tension between the two countries and monitor that.´

This man is an IDIOT and needs to be replaced.


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Reply 14 - Posted by: paperpuncher, 1/14/2018 7:21:46 AM     (No. 11509793)

#4 This was not generated by NORAD. It was a local civil defense warning system. They have no way to detect an incoming missile and would receive notice from NORAD before setting off their warnings. No response because no threat.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: FleetUSA, 1/14/2018 7:25:54 AM     (No. 11509797)

He should be drug tested.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua, 1/14/2018 7:26:04 AM     (No. 11509798)

Did the guy sit on the control panel? Did he do the equivalent of butt-dialing?

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Lawsy0, 1/14/2018 7:35:51 AM     (No. 11509805)

Misbehaving government employees are NEVER fired. Like misbehaving priests, they only get moved to another location.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: sorosisbehindit, 1/14/2018 7:47:24 AM     (No. 11509813)

the employee had been with the agency for ´a while´ and he will be ´counseled and drilled so this never happens again´

The supervisor that said those words should be fired as well.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Urgent Fury, 1/14/2018 7:57:19 AM     (No. 11509824)

OK some guy made a mistake. My question is, why did it take 40 minutes to clear it up?

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Reply 20 - Posted by: rolfnader, 1/14/2018 8:00:45 AM     (No. 11509826)

@#17- Same with school teachers.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 1/14/2018 8:27:07 AM     (No. 11509846)

After a thorough assessment it has been determined that it is Trump´s fault.

Not kidding.

Tesla Gabber has already made the charge.

His mis-handling of the Norks is the whole problem.

If Donald cared about people this would never happen.

Hawaii is clearly populated by children and led by children who are upset after having set the house on fire.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: bighambone, 1/14/2018 8:50:09 AM     (No. 11509865)

Since Hawaii is essentially a one party run liberal Democrat run State, “feelings” are very important there. Some there have even been “feeling” that is a really all President Trump’s fault as his tweets have hurt Mr. Kim’s “feelings” as Trump attempts to gain Kim’s attention and denuclearize the Korean Peninsula. In the future, if Kim succeeds in building and deploying 50-100 long range ballistic missiles topped with nuclear warheads, some of them aimed at Hawaii, a lot of “feelings” are going to be hurt there. It’s just another example of the liberals seeing the world in a way they think it should be, and not as it really is.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Rubygram, 1/14/2018 8:53:30 AM     (No. 11509867)

Something doesn’t smell right. First he pushed “the button” then the back up “are you sure button”

We are being led down a garden path of lies and deception. Just like Vegas......

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Reply 24 - Posted by: yuban, 1/14/2018 8:56:52 AM     (No. 11509870)

Government workers are the same in all professions. DMV, USPS, FBI, CIA, Senators, Reps, Govs..... you name it, they are, overall, inept individuals... period. Don´t ever put your money or your life in the hands of these people. Be self dependent. Be happy. Be free.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: laotzu, 1/14/2018 9:15:26 AM     (No. 11509890)

In government, you only get fired for little mistakes, not big mistakes. Witness the VA, where there´s been a purge of housekeepers and claims processors while everyone in management has kept their job, notwithstanding Arizona VAMC killing Veterans, $300,000 in televisions sitting in a warehouse in Colorado because they´re not compatible with the new hospital wiring, and a recent IG report that Roanoke was cooking the books on appeals since 2008.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: lindamay, 1/14/2018 9:21:08 AM     (No. 11509900)

I think there´s a back story here that we´ll never know about. This is just too stupid to be believed.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: TCloud, 1/14/2018 9:39:56 AM     (No. 11509924)

A stern Liberal *strike one*!

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Reply 28 - Posted by: Thos Weatherby, 1/14/2018 10:07:08 AM     (No. 11509959)

I´m sorry I find responsibility with a few people. First the guy who pressed the button wasn´t paying attention and the easy fix of RETRAINING doesn´t exist. There is no such thing as retraining. You train, you follow up, you coach before you turn the person loose. This is a management mistake. They may want to blame the guy but it´s the managements fault. Then we can also blame the person who came up with the plan. Why wasn´t redundancy built in? Why did it take so long to respond? Sounds like this problem needs to start all over. Who´s in charge?

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Reply 29 - Posted by: f64, 1/14/2018 10:20:35 AM     (No. 11509982)

At least he didn´t press the "Wrong Gender" warning button.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: ida lou pino, 1/14/2018 10:30:33 AM     (No. 11510006)

Apparently he never learned how to play "Button, Button, Who´s Got The Button?"

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Reply 31 - Posted by: enemyofthestate, 1/14/2018 11:00:56 AM     (No. 11510052)

A reminder that Hawaii is to be avoided, even though I have some personal interest in visiting. I am on a boycott because left-wing loons run the place, and apparently loons run free on the streets, too.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: mc squared, 1/14/2018 11:03:33 AM     (No. 11510053)

#14; Understood. Only posting a false Conelrad alert. Different source, same effect.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Seaduck79, 1/14/2018 11:13:13 AM     (No. 11510063)

#4, you DO realize this wasn´t an actual missile launch, right? That we have means to detect and respond to things that ACTUALLY happen, right? The world is stupider for having read your statement.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: johnwayne, 1/14/2018 11:28:39 AM     (No. 11510069)

I recall some kind of Hawaiian Civil Defense "communication" problem back in December of 1941.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: zbogwan2, 1/14/2018 12:23:48 PM     (No. 11510098)

Brings to mind the Orson Wells false Martian Invasion stunt of Oct. 30, 1938. Poor Hawaiians fell for the fake Nuclear Missile Attack Warning too. Orson Wells must have had a Good Laugh from wherever he is in the afterlife?

"Orson Welles causes a nationwide panic with his broadcast of “War of the Worlds”—a realistic radio dramatization of a Martian invasion of Earth. Orson Welles was only 23 years old when his Mercury Theater company decided to update H.G. Wells’ 19th-century science fiction novel War of the Worlds for national radio."

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Reply 36 - Posted by: kennedylaw, 1/14/2018 12:43:44 PM     (No. 11510119)

I keep thinking of the scene from Guardians of the Galaxy II where Rocket is trying to tell baby Groot which button not to press.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: glcinpdx, 1/14/2018 1:00:09 PM     (No. 11510134)

They need some kind of two person interlock to keep messages like this from being broadcast by a single person...

That being said, no way the civil servant would ever be fired...

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Reply 38 - Posted by: Videodrone, 1/14/2018 1:22:21 PM     (No. 11510159)

Barbra Streisand!

it doesn´t work that way - at a local TV or radio station (Depending on the type of EAS) it takes several button pushes in a specific order to trigger a local alert - to create a state wide EAS/PAWS to go over cell phones and all broadcast and cable takes considerably more

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Reply 39 - Posted by: dman, 1/14/2018 2:18:26 PM     (No. 11510226)

Color me skeptical. In my engineering career, I would apply a modified Occam´s razor to such things. The underlying “cause” is the most straightforward one that answers all known questions:

* Why did the message not provide further sources of information (phone numbers, urls, etc.)? (Routine to assist rather than frighten the public.)
* Why were companion alerts (sirens, reverse 911, emergency broadcast system) not activated? (Typically linked automatically.)
* This happened at 8AM: why was the Governor not immediately on air to calm things down? (This was not a 3AM call.)
* Why didn´t broadcast reporters contact military et al to corroborate the warning? (That is their job, and news shows should have been on air.)
* Why are dismissal of terrorism and cyber attack “knee-jerk” responses to these things? (Containment of political damage seems to be paramount.)
* Why did it take 38 minutes to undo the “mistake”? (Cyber attacks routinely “lock” the computers to thwart ability to quickly remedy the situation.)
* Why was this HEMA employee brought forth so quickly? (He should know that his career is over. Feels more like setup of a “patsy”.)
* Why did this happen in a solidly blue state? (Rhetorical question.)
* Why did this quickly morph into calls to appease KJU? (Democrats will be democrats: Never let a good crisis go to waste.)

IMO either a cyber attack and subsequent coverup or a deliberate political ploy would answer all of these questions.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: dman, 1/14/2018 2:22:57 PM     (No. 11510230)

.. and then there are the lawsuits sure to come.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: Pageturner, 1/14/2018 2:32:43 PM     (No. 11510234)

Fire the incompetent.

Obviously, they´re all like that so of course he won´t be fired.

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Reply 42 - Posted by: Pageturner, 1/14/2018 2:36:14 PM     (No. 11510238)

Retrain him to clean toilets and pick up cigarette butts.

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Reply 43 - Posted by: Timber Queen, 1/14/2018 3:05:29 PM     (No. 11510257)

I´m leaning more towards Dhim political theater. I think the emergency director who cited the "cooling tensions between North and South Korea..." may have given us a clue.

The Dhims were trying to paint Hawaiians as the innocent lambs that would be sacrificed on the altar of Trump´s bombastic war mongering. But, things have been pretty quiet lately from the Hermit Kingdom as they realized President Trump could not be rolled like presidents Clinton, Bush, and Ozero. In fact any news of Lil Kim has dropped off the radar.

I wouldn´t put it past the movers and shakers in the islands to decide they needed something to ramp up the panic again because Donald Trump was being too successful.

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Reply 44 - Posted by: msjena, 1/14/2018 3:08:14 PM     (No. 11510261)

I´m not buying this story.

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Reply 45 - Posted by: Smart11344, 1/14/2018 3:27:37 PM     (No. 11510299)

I remember in the 50´s AM car radios had the Civil Defense logo on the radios at 640 and 1240 AM. I worked at an AM-FM-TV station is Seattle. Our AM station was the primary Civil Defense station. The government installed a 5,000 gallon diesel fuel tank and generator to operate of 50,000 watt radio station in case of and attack.

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Reply 46 - Posted by: Lana720, 1/14/2018 4:56:59 PM     (No. 11510394)

"Will be counseled and drilled? Maybe here´s the answer...screwing around with buttons?
How many panicked people were admitted to the hospitals with heart attacks, strokes, or died of panic?
Their Jr. Senator certainly jumped on this quickly to blame our President, five time zones away.

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Reply 47 - Posted by: labrador heaven, 1/14/2018 5:18:28 PM     (No. 11510432)

Here´s another view, with updates from this afternoon. It all comes down someone is lying, bigly.

Read this, comments after as well.

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=232787

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Reply 48 - Posted by: Scribelus, 1/14/2018 5:47:09 PM     (No. 11510476)

The error-prone employee´s fate reminds me of the Monty Python skit in which a miscreant is to be punished by placing him in "the comfy chair".
How deliciously Democrat and Hawaiian at the same time.

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Reply 49 - Posted by: p51dmustang, 1/14/2018 5:58:48 PM     (No. 11510489)

Ah...isn´t it always a lack of training? God forbid that the idiot be responsible for what he was trained to do.

This is equal to crying fire in a crowed concert hall. Fire the moron, and train someone who accepts that responsibility with personal integrity.

The civil defense employee can think about his actions while he looks for another job

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American Thinker, by M. Catharine Evans    Original Article
Posted By: steveW- 1/17/2018 5:46:21 AM     Post Reply
A crazed, bug-eyed Cory Booker, junior senator from New Jersey, blasted Department of Homeland Security secretary Kristjen Nielsen during a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing yesterday on immigration. Booker became so unhinged in his staged outrage that he repeatedly threatened Nielsen, with clenched fists pointed in her direction. Equal to Booker´s overt violation of Nielsen´s right to be treated without hostility and intimidation was the deranged content of his tirade. Nielsen had stated earlier she did not hear the president say the "s-hole" word at last week´s White House meeting on DACA. Booker went ballistic and accused Nielsen of covering up

The Male Dress Now On The Rise
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Daily Wire, by Paul Bois    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 1/18/2018 4:22:06 AM     Post Reply
Men can now look forward to a liberated future of wearing dresses. One such fashion designer, Alejandro Gomez Palomo of Spain, is helping to rush in that new era. According to the 25-year-old Palomo, whose public appearance looks as if Dracula spent a weekend at Liberace´s house, gender fluidity is a way of life he hopes that future men can share. In an interview with AFP, Palomo likened his fashion revolution to the ones ushered by Chanel and Yves Saint Laurent in the 20th century. "Chanel liberated women (after World War I) by dressing them in male fabrics like tweed,"

Pope Francis Honors Dutch Abortion
Activist with Pontifical Medal of Knighthood

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Breitbart National Security, by Thomas D. Williams, Ph.D.    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 1/18/2018 11:51:32 AM     Post Reply
Pope Francis has conferred the title of “Commander of the Pontifical Equestrian Order of St. Gregory the Great” on Lilianne Ploumen, a Dutch politician and vocal agitator for abortion rights. Last year, Ploumen founded a pro-abortion organization called She Decides, which offers funding and support for international NGOs that provide, facilitate or campaign for abortion. In an email to the Catholic Herald, Ms. Ploumen said that she was “very honoured” by the pontifical medal, which was sent via the Dutch Ministry of Foreign Affairs last month. In an interview with Dutch radio, Ploumen said she views the honor as a

Barack Obama Promises Supporters
He’ll “Rip Trump A New One”
During the 2018 Midterms

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DCWhispers, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 1/18/2018 1:45:35 PM     Post Reply
Obama’s current office, which is run by former de facto President Valerie Jarrett, is just a mile or so from the White House. It is at that location one sees a daily procession of donors, political operatives, party affiliates (BOTH Democrat and Republican) media friends (of which there are many) and more shadowy figures representing a myriad of foreign interests. And each day this office and its two primary inhabitants – Obama and Jarrett, are asked the same question: WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT TRUMP? Obama being Obama, with his solar-system-sized ego intact, has been promising to do

Mr. President, stop attacking the press
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Washington Post, by John McCain    Original Article
Posted By: Hazymac- 1/18/2018 7:35:35 PM     Post Reply
After leaving office, President Ronald Reagan created the Ronald Reagan Freedom Award to recognize individuals who have fought to spread liberty worldwide. Nancy Reagan continued the tradition after her husband’s death, and in 2008 she bestowed the honor on human rights icon Natan Sharansky, who credited Reagan’s strong defense of freedom for his own survival in Soviet gulags. Reagan recognized that as leader of the free world, his words carried enormous weight, and he used it to inspire the unprecedented spread of democracy around the world. President Donald Trump does not seem to understand that his rhetoric and actions reverberate in

Watch: CNN’s Sanjay Gupta Diagnoses
Donald Trump With Heart Disease

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Breitbart Video, by Jeff Poor    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 1/17/2018 10:10:42 AM     Post Reply
Wednesday on CNN’s “New Day,” Dr. Sanjay Gupta, the network’s chief medical correspondent, proclaimed that based on President Donald Trump’s coronary calcium scores going back to the previous decade, Trump has heart disease. Gupta’s diagnosis came a day after Trump’s doctor, Navy Rear Adm. Dr. Ronny Jackson, offered his assessment of Trump’s health at a White House press briefing. “When you look at the findings you just put up there, Alisyn — this coronary calcium score is a score a lot of cardiologists use to try and be predictive and be proactive,” Gupta said. “And if the number gets up

Sanjay Gupta: By all standards,
Trump has heart disease

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The Hill [Washington, DC], by Rebecca Savransky    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 1/17/2018 9:01:31 AM     Post Reply
CNN´s chief medical correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta said Wednesday that he believes tests reveal that President Trump has heart disease. Gupta said dating back to 2009, President Trump started to have "these tests that are actually looking for the presence of calcium in the blood vessels that lead to the heart." "Steadily, up until just this past week when he had it performed again, those numbers have gone up," he said. "When they get to a certain range ... that means he has heart disease." Gupta then talked about his interaction Tuesday with President Trump´s doctor, Navy Rear Adm. Dr.

California Democrats want businesses to
give half their tax-cut savings to state

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San Francisco Chronicle, by Melody Gutierrez    Original Article
Posted By: poster- 1/18/2018 8:17:44 PM     Post Reply
California lawmakers are targeting the expected windfall companies in the state would see under the federal tax overhaul with a bill that would require businesses to turn over half to the state. A proposed Assembly Constitutional Amendment by Assemblymen Kevin McCarty, D -Sacramento and Phil Ting, D-San Francisco, would create a tax surcharge on California companies making more than $1 million so that half of their federal tax cut would instead go to programs that benefit low-income and middle class families.

Microwaves are as damaging to
the environment as cars

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The Sun, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: mc squared- 1/18/2018 9:25:20 AM     Post Reply
Microwaves are as damaging to the environment as cars and users must be taught how to cook more efficiently, scientists say. The ovens are responsible for 7.7 million tons of the ­carbon dioxide pumped out from the EU each year — the equivalent of 6.8 million cars. Researchers say they are fueling global warming with consumers overcooking food to blame. Microwaves account for the largest percentage of sales of all types of oven in the EU, with numbers set to reach 135 million by 2020. But scientists at the University of Manchester — the first to assess the environmental impact

GOP mega-donors
backing Mitt Romney
for Senate amid possible
move up the leadership ranks

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Fox Business, by Brian Schwartz    Original Article
Posted By: tisHimself- 1/18/2018 8:06:06 AM     Post Reply
In an exclusive interview with Utah Gov. Gary Herbert, FOX Business was told that Romney, the 2012 Republican presidential nominee, will likely receive the backing of mega-donors, not just within Utah, but across the country as he gets ready to announce his candidacy. “He’s given me every indication that he’s running. He’ll have a lot of support from the wealthy people that he knows from when he ran for president. The people on the same list of donors that he had before for 2012, including those from Utah, is a very good place for him to raise money,” Herbert, a


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