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A Flu Pandemic Is In Our Future.
Time to Read ´The Stand.´

Weekly Standard, by Alice B. Lloyd

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Posted By:MissMolly, 1/11/2018 4:56:09 AM

The flu is coming—and eventually, another pandemic. Consensus says, we’re not prepared. But don’t take it from me. There have been warnings. This doomy New York Times op-ed, for example, points out that the bugs that strike seasonally are starting to outstrip our power to inoculate against them—while our worldwide connectedness and global dependence on life-saving drugs manufactured in India and China only speed up an inevitable flu pandemic’s path of destruction. And a whole heap of bad news from Australia, where the seasonal flu hits months sooner, suggests an especially merciless strain is headed our way. And then the fact that

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: greatGreyhounds, 1/11/2018 5:12:23 AM     (No. 11506526)

Where I work, 30% or so of the staff is out sick, either themselves or their children. Most are out a week, before coming back.
Trying to keep my distance from everyone at work!

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Reply 2 - Posted by: varkdriver, 1/11/2018 5:35:47 AM     (No. 11506531)

I have read "The Stand", the extended director´s/author´s cut. It is a very long read but an excellent book. I don´t think any scientists are cooking up some monster strain in a lab, but as noted, international travel and unchecked immigration from less-than-hygienic countries will bring us diseases that we thought were eradicated, along with weird strains of flu.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Abigail4, 1/11/2018 5:37:40 AM     (No. 11506532)

The Stand is my favorite Stephen King novel.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Envirodude, 1/11/2018 5:49:05 AM     (No. 11506537)

An excellent book? Only if you enjoy a character getting raped. Nothing the liberal King writes contributes to society. He hates Christians and conservatives and it reflects in his writings.

Read Outbreak instead.



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Reply 5 - Posted by: Mobyclik, 1/11/2018 5:51:11 AM     (No. 11506538)

Is the media sure this flu outbreak wasn´t caused by Trump and the Russians Russians Russians?

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Reply 6 - Posted by: judy, 1/11/2018 5:57:36 AM     (No. 11506542)

I was sick 3 weeks with the flu this season. This flu is very different, it hit every part of my body even my teeth ached. I feel for anyone with this flu. My Doctor told me this flu has come back on most of his patients.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: strike3, 1/11/2018 5:59:50 AM     (No. 11506545)

Coincidentally, #1, the CDC has stated that the latest vaccine is 30% effective, which means that your work situation is far from over.

My personal opinion is that all of the needless vaccine that is pushed on people year after year is destroying their immune systems. I haven´t had a flu shot in many years and never get it despite flying and working in other cities. Stay active and strong and stay away from the government drug pushers.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: fed-up, 1/11/2018 6:03:58 AM     (No. 11506548)

One of my favorite books. Haunting.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: F15 Gork, 1/11/2018 6:12:11 AM     (No. 11506550)

Natures way of culling the herd from time to time. I suspect that the first to go will be those who ran to their doctor for a dose of this or that every time they had a runny nose. Not much immunity to anything.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: chumley, 1/11/2018 6:17:00 AM     (No. 11506555)

Whatever you do, everyone PANIC! Thats the gist of all these gloom and doom articles that never seem to come to pass.
I found the phrase in the article that sums up the whole purpose of it and stopped reading. FTA: "Pouring billions of federal dollars into universal flu vaccine research, of the sort that could theoretically preempt a pandemic, won’t hurt."
We are being duped again.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: jerseytomato, 1/11/2018 6:41:36 AM     (No. 11506579)

I had the flu shot, and then the H3N2. Lasted for three weeks. It was like nothing I´ve ever had.

FYI: my doctor suggested I up my vitamin D to avoid flu in the future.



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Reply 12 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 1/11/2018 7:35:48 AM     (No. 11506617)

My education pushed me into a short but intense study of infectious disease. This was back just after the Hanta virus scare in 1993 around the 4 corners area of New Mexico and Arizona. I was New Mexico vector control officer (rats, mice, mosquitoes, etc). This deadly disease seems to spring up out of the desert for no apparent reason about every 50 years or so and has been doing so since the early 1800´s. Anyway, during this course, I learned about all sorts of infectious diseases from a prevention officer´s perspective. Throughout human history, diseases like malaria, cholera, diphtheria, small pox ravaged humans and animals. My big question that impressed the very well educated epidemiologists running the course was, "If these diseases have been around basically forever, why didn´t they wipe out humans before we discovered the various inoculations?"

This is a big question. The main reason, they suspect, is population density. One of the biggest die-offs occurred in the Mississippi Valley native America populations after the Spanish infections of the 1500´s. And it killed just about everyone from small pox and other diseases. Some survived, though not many. Why? Even when most everyone was dead, the number of survivor dwindles from other causes- starvation, predation, wars, etc. So it occurred to me, if there ever is an outbreak, the cities will be hit the hardest- due to high population density. But, deadly diseases are self extinguishing- they almost immediately reduce the population density and that stops them. After that, it is humans who do the rest of the damage (like in the Stand). For the disease, though- If most all the hosts are dead, there is no one left to infect. But, scientists still really do not have much of a clue how all that works.


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Reply 13 - Posted by: Throwback, 1/11/2018 8:24:14 AM     (No. 11506640)

#6, colds and the flu can "come back" on you after you get well through your humble toothbrush. Get sick - Get Well - Get A New Toothbrush. Doesn´t hurt to soak it in mouthwash or hydrogen peroxide each day while ill too.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Poliskeptic, 1/11/2018 8:45:05 AM     (No. 11506656)

Interesting #11. I used to get bad colds 2-3 times a year. I started faithfully taking daily Vitamin D about 3+ years ago because my D was low and my doctor pushed and pushed me to do it. A side benefit may be I don´t get colds anymore. I pointed this out to my doctor at my last annual. He didn´t seem to buy my analysis, but your post makes me think there is veracity to it. Hope it works for flu. BTW, I´m not a vitamin nut...D is the only Vitamin I take.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Gorzabozo, 1/11/2018 8:48:44 AM     (No. 11506661)

Re#13: Does Jack Daniel´s work as well?


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Reply 16 - Posted by: steph_gray, 1/11/2018 8:49:02 AM     (No. 11506662)

I disagree that The Stand is anti-Christian. It has a very strong message for a piece of mainstream fiction. The Mother Abigail character is wonderful and inspiring. I particularly love one of the scenes where she is talking about God, and another of the main characters, a very good man who does not happen to be religious, tells her (he cannot speak, so he writes the words), that he does not believe in God. She laughs and tells him, “Nick, that don’t matter! He believes in _you_.” It’s one of my favorite moments in both the book and the TV movie (which I recommend - Gary Sinise is particularly excellent in it).

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Reply 17 - Posted by: bldrrepub, 1/11/2018 9:35:07 AM     (No. 11506700)

Bad news, folks. There’s no more room in Boulder. The bad people have moved here in droves.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: qwerty, 1/11/2018 10:39:30 AM     (No. 11506793)

M O O N , that spells moon.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: dvc, 1/11/2018 10:42:43 AM     (No. 11506797)

Get the Chinese stop feeding chicken poop to hogs and the new strains of flu will drop dramatically.
This is largely coming from China and due to their stupid, unsafe public health practices.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: dvc, 1/11/2018 10:45:30 AM     (No. 11506800)

I can´t stand King´s books, too weird and silly.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: enemyofthestate, 1/11/2018 11:51:08 AM     (No. 11506875)

How much of this flu pandemic is brought in by illegal aliens?

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Heraclitus, 1/11/2018 12:01:06 PM     (No. 11506888)

Many dittos, #12!

Back in the 80s i came across a great book by Hans Zinsser, "Rats, Lice and History". It sparked an interest in me, as a student of ancient history, concerning the factors leading to the decline and fall (thanks Gibbon) of great civilizations.

Later on in my graduate studies i explored the impact of plague on the Emperor Justinian´s effort to restore the Roman Empire (by now split between the Eastern Byzantium and the Western, Rome) in the 6th century.

Early successes were thwarted and reversed when (probably) bubonic plague (bacterial, not viral) pandemic spread throughout the Ancient world.

Some people believe that the 1920 flu pandemic was the main reason WWI came to an end.

Good suggestions on throwing away toothbrushes and vitamin D. Here´s another idea:
I always wear gloves when pumping gas, and try to remember when in the grocery store. Now i think i´ll carry a supply of disposable gloves, now that i consider how yucky germs could get onto my leather gloves or mittens and THEN onto my steering wheel, etc

Oh, and i just heard that saline solution bags are in short supply, essential for administering fluids and meds in ERs and hospitals. Never knew this, but they´re made in Puerto Rico and somewhere in Texas.
Dehydration is a killer.



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Reply 23 - Posted by: Smart11344, 1/11/2018 12:58:57 PM     (No. 11506955)

This years flu vaccine has missed the mark, again. It is only 10% effective.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Judy, 1/11/2018 5:52:02 PM     (No. 11507222)

It’s funny you mentioned Jack Daniels I coughed for days, my husband said drink some Jim Bean, the next day... no cough...it doesn’t say much for theraful....

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Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) on Tuesday condemned President Trump’s combative attitude toward the press and called on Congress to protect journalists worldwide. “Whether Trump knows it or not, these efforts are being closely watched by foreign leaders who are already using his words as cover as they silence and shutter one of the key pillars of democracy,” McCain said in an opinion piece published in The Washington Post. McCain called the Trump administration’s treatment of journalists “inconsistent at best and hypocritical at worst,” particularly when it comes to condemning attacks on the press abroad. McCain cited foreign leaders who have


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