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Court rules Oregon bakers who refused to
make lesbian couple a wedding cake WILL
have to pay them $135,000 in damages

Associated Press, by Staff

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Posted By:Ribicon, 12/28/2017 6:21:48 PM

An appellate court Thursday upheld a penalty against Oregon bakery owners who refused to make a cake for a same-sex wedding almost five years ago. The owners of the since-closed Gresham bakery - Aaron and Melissa Klein - argued that state Labor Commissioner Brad Avakian violated state and federal laws by forcing them to pay emotional-distress damages of $135,000 to the lesbian couple Rachel and Laurel Bowman-Cryer. (Snip) First Liberty Institute, the legal organization that represents the Kleins, disagreed with the ruling. ´The Oregon Court of Appeals decided that Aaron and Melissa Klein are not entitled to the Constitution´s promises

Here´s the USA in 2017, where shakedowns are the order of the day, provided they are against Christians and other despised parties.


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Reply 1 - Posted by: fayebeck, 12/28/2017 6:29:48 PM     (No. 11493657)

But, but it´s not about the money. It´s the principle of the thing. Thuggery at it´s finest. Is this a great country or what?

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Northcross, 12/28/2017 6:30:37 PM     (No. 11493658)

This is sickening. There was never any emotional distress, only a carefully orchestrated hit job designed to make an example of Bible-believing Christians.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: columba, 12/28/2017 6:37:29 PM     (No. 11493664)

Only ONE group of people carry their claims of normalcy to extremes like this. Blacks don´t; Disabled don´t; Christians don´t.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: dvc, 12/28/2017 6:37:47 PM     (No. 11493665)

Unbelievable. Very unfair.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: velirotta, 12/28/2017 6:41:45 PM     (No. 11493668)

I doubt that this typical Oregon ruling is the last word. Appeal, appeal, appeal.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: JansGraphix, 12/28/2017 6:43:04 PM     (No. 11493670)

Apparently there are lots of left wing judges leftover from 8 years of Marxist ´rule´. I hope they take this to the Supremes.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: trackman999, 12/28/2017 6:50:56 PM     (No. 11493676)

Govt sanctioned extortion.Disgusting. I want a gay couple to try this in a muslim owned and operated bakery. The outcome would never ever be the same.Never.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: previouslyon24, 12/28/2017 6:56:08 PM     (No. 11493679)

Ok, let´s see a Jewish baker have to bake one for a Nazi celebration. One can come up with lots of examples where it really is absurd that the government can force someone to do business with anyone who walks in the door demanding whatever they wish. Hope they appeal this typically Leftist decision. BTW the super liberal, Brad Avakian is a complete horse´s behind in every way. He was just virtue signaling to the liberals in Oregon who love this kind of thing.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: jar, 12/28/2017 7:02:23 PM     (No. 11493683)

Talk about emotional distress -- what about the emotional distress caused to the bakers by the gay couple and the courts? That beats any "emotional distress" the bakers caused the gays by refusing to bake their cake.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Dodge Boy, 12/28/2017 7:02:50 PM     (No. 11493685)

And now you know about Oregon´s judicial system. What a crock.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Attila DiMedici, 12/28/2017 7:12:11 PM     (No. 11493701)

According to the judge, "they have made no showing that other people will necessarily experience any wedding cake that the Kleins create predominantly as ´expression´ rather than as food,´"

Which explains why people pay a premium for a wedding cake as opposed to just buying an ordinary cake for their wedding, because after all it is just food.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Ravenhaven, 12/28/2017 7:13:13 PM     (No. 11493704)

It´s Oregon. Tell me why anyone reasonable would live there.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: qwerty, 12/28/2017 7:16:49 PM     (No. 11493708)

This could have all been avoided and yet the bakers could have maintained their belief. I used to be in business for myself. I turned away a number of customers because I did not like them or their life style, and they never knew why. I "suddenly" became much too busy to fill their order, or do the service call they needed. No law says I can´t do that.
I can also so over charge with the initial estimate the customer will go elsewhere. Again no law stopping me.
If I had said I´m not doing it because you´re a particular color or gender or "couple" then they have a leg to stand on.
I feel bad they´re getting "legally" mugged and robbed. There are no thought police yet that can read my mind.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Ruhn, 12/28/2017 7:17:25 PM     (No. 11493711)

One way or another, there will be a reckoning.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Shmowry1, 12/28/2017 7:34:14 PM     (No. 11493724)

If you’re 4th amendment rights are violated, do you know how much you are entitled to in a lawsuit? Virtually nothing, unless you got the crap kicked out of you in the process. Some rights are more equal than others. Apparently rights that appear nowhere in the constitution are worth a lot more than ones that are clearly enumerated.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: lavalette, 12/28/2017 7:36:32 PM     (No. 11493728)

Any judge, appointed by any Democrat, will be a 100% left-wing political actor. And half of them appointed by Republicans too.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Rushie, 12/28/2017 7:37:20 PM     (No. 11493729)

How about a Muslim baker making a bacon scone in honor of National Bacon Day! Ha!

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 12/28/2017 7:53:28 PM     (No. 11493738)

The court;´s definition of ´art" is badly flawed. If their definition was accurate, then the NEA would not have been able to define the crucifix in a jar of urine as art. Or do they expect a majority of people have to define cake decorating and sculpting an art- or just one person? What part of the word ´decorating and sculpting´ does not fit the definition of the word ´art´? Is religion, as protected in the Constitution subordinate to some arbitrary State law that defines ´sexual orientation" as a protected clause? The SCOTUS will have to decide this, I suppose, when the bully tyranny of the State is able to trample an individual´s so protected rights. This is wrong- and it should not have to be decided by the SCOTUS. It is wrong on face value.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: FunOne, 12/28/2017 8:14:43 PM     (No. 11493751)

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." --Thomas Jefferson

Thinking of you, Oregon Court of Appeals Justices.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: hotcorner, 12/28/2017 8:20:03 PM     (No. 11493755)

Oregon, like California and New York, is a cesspool of thug fascist democrats.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: hamrman, 12/28/2017 8:44:18 PM     (No. 11493772)

Emotional distress my big toe, the state of Oreogone should being paying the bakers $135,000.00 NOT to bake the cake. This takes the Cake and is insane!

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Reply 22 - Posted by: velirotta, 12/28/2017 8:51:27 PM     (No. 11493779)

#8 and #20: Most Oregon counties are conservative, but we have our own "Left Coast." Three populated counties, which is insufferably liberal, basically control the whole state. Same situation in Washington.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Harlowe, 12/28/2017 9:00:47 PM     (No. 11493784)

Unconscionable litigation/judgment/penalty.

#9- Indeed, emotional distress for the bakery owners that is far beyond the alleged emotional distress of the lesbians; two women whose feelings were allegedly hurt, but seemingly lack feelings for the livelihood of a Christian couple--subjecting Aaron/Melissa Klein to emotional and financial stress appears to be inconsequential in their minds. It would be interesting to follow the money: Aaron/Melissa Klein quite likely must use and possibly deplete their life savings to cover litigation costs; what is the financial source for legal expenses on behalf of the lesbians? ACLU?

#14- Absolutely. Sow and reap (Galatians 6:7-8).

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Reply 24 - Posted by: FelineFine, 12/28/2017 9:11:55 PM     (No. 11493789)

Hope they set up a Go Fund Me account. They’ll get the $135,00 (and probably much more) in a matter of hours.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: ginadee, 12/28/2017 9:26:36 PM     (No. 11493793)

that is a bunch of hooey. why didn´t the lesbian couple just go to another baker? this sounds like ´give them an inch and they take a mile.´
stupid judge!
I hope the baker countersues the happily married couple.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Heil Liberals, 12/28/2017 9:34:23 PM     (No. 11493794)

In Progressive enclaves far and wide across our nation, the Constitution is dead. First conceived by the Founding Fathers as a limited central government whose existence served only to enhance the security and commerce of the States united and secure the liberty of individual citizens, the document has been twisted, beaten, and finally torched mostly in the courts of our land.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Safari Man, 12/28/2017 9:49:19 PM     (No. 11493800)

I don´t believe OJ Simpson ever paid anything.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: Penney, 12/28/2017 9:52:17 PM     (No. 11493804)

This punitive judicial decision is not justice but is instead persecution. Who would ever think that in this country such a miscarriage of justice could EVER occur?!! This sort of attack against Christian business owners will no doubt go to the Supreme Court where the Bill of Rights will be respected.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: nerdowell, 12/28/2017 10:01:57 PM     (No. 11493810)

While we wait for this case to get to the Supremes, shouldn´t we be able to walk into a Halal butcher shop (no pun intended) and order pork barbecue? It´s just food after all.

Imagine using this ruling to shut those places down and hound those ghouls back to where they came from. Maybe the leftists would think twice.

Am I oversimplifying the ruling in making this analogy?

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Reply 30 - Posted by: Heraclitus, 12/28/2017 10:18:58 PM     (No. 11493820)

So many excellent points, but #11 really hits the mark:

If skill and artistry were not the key reasons for choosing a bakery then why not whip up a cake from a cake mix? I wouldn´t even say go to your grocery store bakery; they, too, attempt to decorate and embellish their food product!

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Reply 31 - Posted by: 49 Ford, 12/28/2017 10:19:12 PM     (No. 11493821)

Do these people have a "Go Fund Me" site, or did GFM kick them off because they were regarded as "controversial"? Anyone know?

And IMO poster #2 goes to the heart of it.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: MissMann, 12/28/2017 10:51:19 PM     (No. 11493847)

#22: all full of California refugees. They destroy one state and move on to the next, bringing failed orthodoxy with them....

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Reply 33 - Posted by: SALady, 12/29/2017 1:26:54 AM     (No. 11493894)

This is exactly the type of blatant attack on our Constitutional rights that will spark Civil War II!!!!!!!!

The Supreme Court needs to take this case on immediately and bring some sanity back to this nation!!!!!

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Reply 34 - Posted by: LoneVoice, 12/29/2017 6:50:32 AM     (No. 11493951)

The Supreme Court has a very similar case right now involving bakers in Colorado. If that case is decided in favor of the bakers in Colorado the case against the Oregon bakers will be moot.

Failing that I think #19 may have the only remaining option.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: Muguy, 12/29/2017 7:09:25 AM     (No. 11493965)

The case currently under consideration by the Supreme Court has a baker who was obviously being TARGETED for his beliefs.

The person wanting the gay cake could have chosen over 60 other places but didn´t. They drove over 100 miles out of the way in fact.

The Oregon case is about wanting to FINANCIALLY RUIN the bakers instead of protecting their 1st amendment rights of conscience. Certainly, there are other places that could have baked the cake.

This would have stood under Nobama, but the court is supposed to be above party agendas and driven by the Constitution and State laws. The idea that they should just accept it and pay the fine is repugnant to most.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: mickturn, 12/29/2017 7:10:47 AM     (No. 11493968)

File bankruptcy, start a new company. Courts, stuff your ruling!

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Reply 37 - Posted by: Smart11344, 12/30/2017 1:27:46 PM     (No. 11495091)

Correct spelling: OREGONE.

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Former FBI director James B. Comey is joining the faculty of his alma mater, the College of William & Mary, and plans to teach a course on ethical leadership at the school’s Washington center starting in the fall. Comey, whom President Trump fired last year, will have a nontenured position as an executive professor in education, the school announced Friday. His course will be offered through the W&M Washington Center to students of the public college based in Williamsburg, Va. Comey will teach the course in fall 2018, spring 2019 and summer 2019 with executive assistant professor Drew Stelljes.

Vowing to ´rip´ Trump ´a new one,´
Obama´s ex-presidency devolves
into third-world coup plotting

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American Thinker, by Monica Showalter    Original Article
Posted By: PageTurner- 1/19/2018 9:49:57 AM     Post Reply
Far from content living his golden years on the $400,000 speech and lecture circuit of other former presidents, President Obama has been busy with clawing back for his old power. He´s actually covertly plotting to oust his democratically elected successor, President Trump, vowing to his associates to "rip him a new one," in the 2018 midterm elections. Seems he´s not all that interested in watching his youngest daughter grow up. That´s the word from DCWhispers, which reports that Obama´s Kalorama mansion, in the heart of the capital´s most tony district, is the center of significant comings and goings among the Obamatons,

Justin Trudeau Puts Pro-Lifers
on Notice that Their Views
Won´t Be Tolerated in Public

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PJ Media, by John Ellis    Original Article
Posted By: Hazymac- 1/19/2018 12:16:47 PM     Post Reply
During his town hall tour across Canada, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has given explicit notice to pro-life Canadians that their beliefs on abortion make them second-class citizens. (Snip) According to the article, Trudeau warned that "an organization that has the explicit purpose of restricting women´s rights by removing rights to abortion, the right for women to control their own bodies, is not in line with where we are as a government and quite frankly where we are as a society." According to Trudeau, his tongue-lashing of pro-life groups was prompted by responses to a change to who can receive grants as

Microwaves are as damaging to
the environment as cars

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The Sun, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: mc squared- 1/18/2018 9:25:20 AM     Post Reply
Microwaves are as damaging to the environment as cars and users must be taught how to cook more efficiently, scientists say. The ovens are responsible for 7.7 million tons of the ­carbon dioxide pumped out from the EU each year — the equivalent of 6.8 million cars. Researchers say they are fueling global warming with consumers overcooking food to blame. Microwaves account for the largest percentage of sales of all types of oven in the EU, with numbers set to reach 135 million by 2020. But scientists at the University of Manchester — the first to assess the environmental impact

House Committee Document Could Mean
Trouble for Anti-Trump "Deep-Statists"

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Power Line, by Paul Mirengoff    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 1/19/2018 4:37:31 AM     Post Reply
Sara Carter reports on a classified document that was released to all members of the House today. The document seems to be a compilation of information, prepared by House intelligence committee staff, relating to the anti-Trump dossier, the FBI, the warrant to conduct surveillance on members of the Trump campaign, and the use of that warrant. Carter calls the document a bombshell. Her sources say its revelations might lead to the removal of senior officials in the FBI and Department of Justice, and perhaps even the criminal prosecution of some. They also say, less plausibly, that the revelations could lead to

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