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RNC and Roy Moore, together
again: Spectacularly stupid
and morally obscene

USA Today, by Jonah Goldberg

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Posted By:Dreadnought, 12/6/2017 10:08:23 PM

Rumors that the Republican National Committee was built on the site of an ancient moron burial ground gained new credence this week when it confirmed that it was renewing its support for Alabama´s Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore. I shouldn’t joke, because the worst thing about the RNC’s decision isn’t the stupidity — though the stupidity is real, and spectacular — but the moral obscenity. Last month, the RNC and the National Republican Senatorial Committee pulled out of their joint fundraising agreements because Moore had been credibly accused by several women of having preyed upon them when they were teenagers,


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Reply 1 - Posted by: fayebeck, 12/6/2017 10:15:18 PM     (No. 11472863)

And Moore "credibly" denies the accusations.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: harleynyc, 12/6/2017 10:15:52 PM     (No. 11472866)

Does Jonah Goldberg hang around with susan collins and jeff flake ?

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Reply 3 - Posted by: greggojo, 12/6/2017 10:16:33 PM     (No. 11472867)

And the alternative is to give a leftist, Doug Jones, six years to vote the straight Democrat Party line. No thank you.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Kowgirl, 12/6/2017 10:17:39 PM     (No. 11472868)

The RNC now sees the writing on the wall of a win and wants to be able to take credit for it and possibly ensnare Moore into some sort of one-sided loyalty. Moore should tell them thanks, but no thanks.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: GW_Rider, 12/6/2017 10:22:58 PM     (No. 11472873)

Someone who would have preferred Hellary to PDT is fit to lecture anyone about morality?

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Reply 6 - Posted by: chumley, 12/6/2017 10:38:57 PM     (No. 11472891)

Poor Jonah just cant help himself. If the swamp is for it, so is he. He´s no better than McCain or Romney, or any other of the uniparty members.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: tearza, 12/6/2017 10:39:39 PM     (No. 11472892)

The credibility of his accusers is a lot to be desired. How can you convict a person on only accusations and no proof. Nobody would ever run for Congress again if they are disqualified by a Accuser with no evidence...

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Reply 8 - Posted by: mikkins2, 12/6/2017 10:46:01 PM     (No. 11472894)

It is sad when you can read the title of an article and know instinctively who wrote it and that it is just bought and paid for propaganda for the Republican Establishment.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 12/6/2017 10:47:08 PM     (No. 11472896)

Oh, way to go, Jonah! What a terribly disguised POS article. Would your rather hand the seat to a Democrat just because some women came up with a really not-so-credible accusation of Moore creeping on them as teens? Think about it, dummy! For crying out loud, what the h is wrong with people these days?

Look, I know about Jonah. I´ve been a fan of his for years. but, this guy now needs to go on a sabbatical or a vacay to get his head on straight. All this one dimensional
BS going around and knee jerk politics is getting to him.

If Moore happens to be a bad guy, things can be done to censure him. If real evidence suddenly appeared that clearly demonstrated the guy was as immoral as a Democrat, then something can be done. but, the man is a demonstrable conservative before he is a demonstrable monster! At the very least he can keep the seat warm for a future man or woman to your/our liking. But, for crying out loud, do not pull the plug in the bottom of the boat just because you don´t like the color of it!

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Sandbar, 12/6/2017 10:53:15 PM     (No. 11472900)

First, we need to win the election. Given that Alabama has a republican governor, we can sort out who sits in the seat later.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Omen, 12/6/2017 10:57:12 PM     (No. 11472904)

We demand that yearbook be turned over to be examine.
The only reason Allred refuses is she knows once it´s proven a forgery it´s over for her.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: coldoc, 12/6/2017 10:58:12 PM     (No. 11472905)

Dont need to read it. The shortcomings of senor goldberg have been well documented here.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: An Afternoon Walk, 12/6/2017 11:04:05 PM     (No. 11472910)

So the Democrats can do all this sex garbage x1000 and we have to hand them a crucial victory, over 38 year accusations that have no proof, so that we have the moral high ground?

Jonah was prepared to put the evil worse-than-trump-times-10,000 hr Clinton in the White House.

NO thanks. I will take advice from someone who isn’t icky from sidling up to hr Clinton.

I read a headline today, Another Woman Gives Evidence on Moore or similar. I read the article. It was a card from Moore. They had dated when she was 17 (of course). They kissed like once. He never tried to have sex with her. When she got engaged later he wanted to meet him to make sure he was good enough for her.

This woman cried according to the article as she realized what a monster Moore is after finding that card.

It actually makes him sound like a saint. Seinfeld dated Shoshanna when she was 17 and he was 39. See, the Demons can do it all day long. Vote for Moore. I am over the libs garbage.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Newtsche, 12/6/2017 11:06:00 PM     (No. 11472913)

Provincial meandering or self abuse, your choice.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: hoopsfan, 12/6/2017 11:08:32 PM     (No. 11472918)

Jonah has achieved an advanced degree in virtue signaling. Which turns out to have limited value in the real world. So tiresome.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: wendybird, 12/6/2017 11:13:37 PM     (No. 11472922)

Lucianne must be a little embarrassed. Perhaps she didn´t give Jonah the right toys for Christmas, or something. Maybe he has been prescribed the wrong meds lately. Anyway, I hope it will all work out with time and maturity. Is he too old to enter the military?

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Reply 17 - Posted by: terry_tr6, 12/6/2017 11:19:10 PM     (No. 11472924)

Jonah will not be forgotten. I hope he is prepared for when his new friends decide his usefulness is at an end and throw him under the bus

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Reply 18 - Posted by: SALady, 12/6/2017 11:19:22 PM     (No. 11472925)

Journalism 101: When you start out your opinion editorial with a bald faced lie -- "...because Moore had been CREDIBLY accused by several women..." -- you immediately render your argument invalid!!!!

Can someone please explain to me what happened to Jonah?!?!?!? Seriously, he used to be one of the good guys in journalism. He was a good and serious conservative who could express himself in clear and straight-forward ways.

But it´s like Trump Derangement Syndrome has rotted his once genius brain. What a pity...

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Yorkiemom, 12/6/2017 11:24:19 PM     (No. 11472928)

The Republicans motto is now the Democrats are slimy, so we have to be too. No thanks.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: dvc, 12/6/2017 11:33:49 PM     (No. 11472934)

Forty year old accusations and Moore has been in public office for many decades, with many election campaigns. Not credible that they only come forward now.

I call "prove it", and he is innocent until proven guilty.

Sadly, Jonah is on the Dem/Swamp Creature side of this issue, too.

"The seriousness of the charges" overrides the concept of innocent until proven guilty in his mind, clearly. Kangaroo kourt time, it seems.

Not for me.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: An Afternoon Walk, 12/6/2017 11:36:34 PM     (No. 11472938)

No, no, no, #19. If Moore is guilty of abuse w/ the 14 yr old then he should not run and should be in jail. I think we all agree on that. If he kissed 17 year old girls when he was 32 and never did anything else the next 38 years, then you cannot say that we are slimy as the Democrats. Furthermore, where is your proof that Moore did the that one awful thing? I was totally against him too until I saw all the holes in the story. I am all for booting out perv Rs. But you have got to have proof before you hang somebody.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Safari Man, 12/6/2017 11:50:22 PM     (No. 11472944)

I´m with Roy Moore.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Pat26.2, 12/6/2017 11:52:31 PM     (No. 11472947)

Corfman debunked:


Nelson Yearbook inscription challenged:


Nelson and Moore were never seen at the "Olde Hickory House" restaurant according to multiple witnesses.


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Reply 24 - Posted by: Motorcycleboy, 12/6/2017 11:56:08 PM     (No. 11472948)

Republicans again setting up a circular firing squad.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: chiller, 12/7/2017 12:02:40 AM     (No. 11472953)

Seeking a young bride was / is normal, and Moore didn´t go much farther than that.

FBI revelations indicate the swamp is every bit as bad as we feared...we´ll need a Roy Moore

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Reply 26 - Posted by: NotaBene, 12/7/2017 12:15:57 AM     (No. 11472957)

Jonah may not realize that the attack on Christian Judge Moore was aimed at President Trump. Maybe he is blinded by the NeverTrump hatred permeating The National Review that Rich Lowry and Jonah Goldberg have ruined. Sad to see. Donald Trump is the best President in my lifetime and we will defend him to the end. Judge Moore is for the ten commmandments and president Trump for Jerusalem as capital of Israel. Wake up young man!

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Nashman, 12/7/2017 12:19:56 AM     (No. 11472959)

Once more Jo-nah proves his brain is rotting from the inside. A dedicated swamp dweller who would sacrifice his country rather than give any quarter to the President. And supported by our own resident Romneybots. There has been not one shred of proof Roy Moore did anything. Go away Jo-nah. Peddle your nonsense elsewhere.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: Griller1, 12/7/2017 12:45:36 AM     (No. 11472962)

Moore has run and/or been elected to statewide office four times in the past, yet nobody ever bothered to come forward and make a claim against him until he was running for the U.S. Senate. The whole affair has a really bad stench of political sabotage by the left. As a result, I am inclined to believe Judge Moore over all of the so called accusers. They´ll disappear after the election, whether he wins or loses. We can bet on that.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: Judy, 12/7/2017 1:12:24 AM     (No. 11472969)

I suggest all members of the senate be ask the same questions they are asking Moore. Be aware of accusers, sometimes they have done worse.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: Chuzzles, 12/7/2017 1:26:14 AM     (No. 11472971)

Give it up Jonah, your hypocrisy is showing again.

One of the problems with the stand that these nevertrumpers and eGOP oppo groups have is that the odds are stacking up real well for at least a couple of them being accused of harassment from years ago. So why should we listen to their cries of woe and denial if it happens? After all, women don´t lie, right?

I just want that Hush Fund payout list released. I am betting there are some surprising names on that list.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: pchristopher, 12/7/2017 1:32:50 AM     (No. 11472973)

So far, all I´ve heard against Moore are Bought and Paid, unproven allegations. I´m tired of hearing sanctimonious guff from the Liberals and RINOs; if they want to press criminal charges, let them. The only charge-worthy individuals I know of are in Hollywood, the MSM and the Leftist side of the aisle in Congress.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: biggun, 12/7/2017 2:26:29 AM     (No. 11472981)

Jonah was projecting and looking in the mirror when he wrote: "Spectacularly stupid and morally obscene..."

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Reply 33 - Posted by: steveW, 12/7/2017 3:01:22 AM     (No. 11472987)

It is unbelievable that the author of the truly great book "Liberal Fascism" is now treating the Washington Post as a credible news source, transcribing "credibly accused" from a Leftist smear, and in effect helping the liberal-fascist Left gain a senate seat. What happened, Jonah?

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Reply 34 - Posted by: Foggybottom, 12/7/2017 3:50:32 AM     (No. 11472997)

Another column to nowhere.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: judy, 12/7/2017 4:41:43 AM     (No. 11473005)

This reminds me of McCain-- Palin run, a couple of weeks before the election McCain was accused of having an affair with a member of his staff.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: ratslayer, 12/7/2017 5:17:42 AM     (No. 11473017)

About any ax murdering, child molesting, AIDS patient is preferable to Demosocialistcommie.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: plex, 12/7/2017 10:22:52 AM     (No. 11473299)

I will try to remember Jonah for 3 things. He was gracious and a delight to talk with on a NR cruise way back, his analysis of the movie "Ground Hog Day" is outstanding, and the book "Liberal Fascism" is a must read.

Today, he must be reading the NYT and it has done something to him.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: ebuilder, 12/7/2017 11:11:11 AM     (No. 11473370)

If 3/4 + of congress is liberal/ unprincipled, and 4/4 of the msm is liberal/pravda, then Jonah is conservative as he calculates his best shot for future employment is not to be the truth teller. There will always be redemption for the scribes after Trump´s realignment, or war. As he and all his conservative-left friends have said to Gary Cooper in "High Noon":"I´m only a piano player."

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Reply 39 - Posted by: dvc, 12/7/2017 11:40:16 AM     (No. 11473416)

Just when I think that Jonah may be starting to recover from his severe TDS, he goes and writes something like this.

I so much would like the old Jonah back, the sensible, results oriented Jonah.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: flybynight, 12/7/2017 11:50:25 AM     (No. 11473443)

What a disappointment is the once-honorable and astute Mr. Goldberg.
So many conservative characters have been assassinated by the left with impunity, yet until this month, their major players have totally gotten away with not only egregious sexual harassment, but theft, corruption, slander, even rape and murder. Now in a fit of national virtue preening, nobody is safe from groundless accusations, and ´guilty until proven innocent beyond a shadow of a doubt´ seems to be the unwritten law of the land.
An ER doc I know once remarked how few rape cases present with any physical findings at all, no DNA, no bruising, no emotional trauma apparent... The counseling nurses can document nothing. Just a claim, not verifiable. And that is right then and there, not 40 years later.
How many eye-witness accounts of accidents and crime scenes are loaded with misperceptions? Remember the ´recovered memories´ fad of some years back, where ´victims´ were persuaded of abuse that didn´t happen, and innocent people had not only their reputations and livelihoods ruined, but served hard time? How about the alleged hate crimes, ugly graffiti spray-painted by members of the aggrieved groups themselves? The Duke debacle?
This that same lynch mob mentality, and I´m not buying the left´s coordinated hit job on Moore.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: doctorfixit, 12/8/2017 5:34:48 AM     (No. 11474271)

Oh, of course, it´s Goldberg again. I should have known. Circular file.

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Reply 42 - Posted by: franq, 12/8/2017 6:05:13 AM     (No. 11474290)

The pundits of the day said Jesus had a demon, too...

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Reply 43 - Posted by: bohallx, 12/8/2017 4:50:57 PM     (No. 11474955)

Some time this afternoon, the forger confessed to forgery.

The yearbook notes are fake.

Jonah blows it again.

I think he should see a doctor. He is otherwise too bright to keep missing the beat......

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Daily Mail (UK), by Keith Griffith    Original Article
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California´s governor has said that deadly wildfires in the winter will be ´the new normal´, as fire crews rushed to contain the fires, with dry desert winds expected to intensify over the weekend. Governor Jerry Brown on Saturday toured Ventura County neighborhoods ravaged by a weeklong wildfire that killed at least one person and destroyed hundreds of homes and other buildings. At a news conference, the Democrat said drought and climate change mean California faces a ´new reality´ where lives and property are continually threatened by fire, at a cost of billions of dollars. He added that gusty winds and

Why I Can No Longer Call
Myself an Evangelical Republican

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New York Times, by Peter Wehner    Original Article
Posted By: bemused conservative- 12/10/2017 8:05:09 AM     Post Reply
There are times in life when the institutional ground underneath you begins to crumble — and with it, longstanding attachments. Such is the case for me when it comes to the Republican Party and evangelicalism. I’ve been a part of both for my entire adult life. These days, though, in many important ways they are having harmful effects on our society. The latest example is in Alabama, where Roy Moore, the Republican Senate candidate, stands accused of varying degrees of sexual misconduct by nine women, including one who was 14 years old at the time. Mr. Moore leads in most

I´m Done With the Sex Scandals
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PJ Media, by Andrew Klavan    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 12/9/2017 4:31:47 AM     Post Reply
I´m pretty much done with the sex scandals. They were fun, but they´re just going to have to carry on without me. If someone broke the law and you can prove it, prosecute him. If someone violated the rules of his organization, eject him. Other than that, if women have forgotten the fine art of slapping a man in the face, there´s not a whole hell of a lot society can do for them. You keep silent for forty years and then ruin a man´s career with an unprovable allegation — and that makes you a hero? Not to me. Look,

Fox News’ Eboni Williams Tears
Into David Clarke For Calling
John Lewis ‘John Who?’

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Mediaite, by Justin Baragona    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 12/9/2017 3:42:41 PM     Post Reply
Prior to President Donald Trump’s visit to the opening of the Mississippi Civil Rights Museum today, Fox & Friends brought on Trump supporter and former sheriff David Clarke to discuss the president’s appearance. And things got very tense very fast. Right off the bat, co-host Pete Hegseth asked Clarke what he thought about Rep. John Lewis (D-GA), a civil rights icon, deciding not to attend the opening because Trump would be in attendance. Clarke reacted by immediately dismissing Lewis. “John who?” Clarke mocking stated. “John Lewis — he was bloodied on the Selma bridge, Sheriff, when trying to protest voting

U.S. Diplomat’s Resignation Signals
Wider Exodus From State Department

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Foreign Policy, by Dan de Luce, Robbie Gramer    Original Article
Posted By: Hpmatt- 12/10/2017 12:30:19 PM     Post Reply
An award-winning U.S. diplomat who was seen as a rising star at the State Department has issued a scathing resignation letter, accusing Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and the Donald Trump administration of undercutting the State Department and damaging America’s influence in the world. Elizabeth Shackelford, who most recently served as a political officer based in Nairobi for the U.S. mission to Somalia, wrote to Tillerson that she reluctantly had decided to quit because the administration had abandoned human rights as a priority and shown disdain for the State Department’s diplomatic work,

Alabama Sen. Shelby: ‘I couldn’t
vote for Roy Moore’

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CNN Wires, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 12/10/2017 12:09:02 PM     Post Reply
Sen. Richard Shelby says he wants a Republican elected to the Senate on Tuesday to represent Alabama, but that he didn’t vote for GOP candidate Roy Moore in the special election. The Alabama Republican said he’s already cast his ballot, and that he chose a write-in candidate. “I’d rather see the Republican win, but I’d rather see a Republican write-in. I couldn’t vote for Roy Moore. I didn’t vote for Roy Moore,” Shelby told CNN’s Jake Tapper on “State of the Union.” Moore has been accused of pursuing sexual relationships with teenagers when he was in his 30s. In some

Firing Mueller would be disastrous;
discrediting him is impeachment politics

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Washington Examiner, by Byron York    Original Article
Posted By: FlyRight- 12/10/2017 7:14:26 AM     Post Reply
Short of impeaching President Trump, does anything excite Democrats, the Resistance, and NeverTrumpers like the prospect of the president firing special counsel Robert Mueller? Firing Mueller would, or course, be the quickest way for Trump to get impeached, which might explain a certain air of anticipation in discussions of whether — some prefer to say when -- Trump will sack the prosecutor leading the Trump-Russia investigation.There has been a lot of news and commentary recently interpreting criticism of Mueller by a number of pro-Trump media voices as an effort to encourage Trump to fire Mueller, or lay the groundwork for

California gov: Trump doesn’t fear
God or ‘existential consequences’

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The Hill [Washington, DC], by Julia Manchester    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 12/9/2017 10:35:14 AM     Post Reply
California Gov. Jerry Brown (D) says President Trump´s stance on climate change demonstrates that he does not appear to fear the "wrath of God" or have any regard for the "existential consequences" of his climate change policies. “I don’t think President Trump has a fear of the Lord, the fear of the wrath of God, which leads one to more humility ... this is such a reckless disregard for the truth and for the existential consequences that can be unleashed,” Brown said in an interview on CBS´s "60 Minutes," which is set to air on Sunday. Brown, who previously studied to become

Maybe Trump needs emergency
brain repair after slurred speech

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NY Daily News, by Linda Stasi    Original Article
Posted By: Scottyboy- 12/9/2017 11:17:50 PM     Post Reply
Loose dentures? More like loose screws. Donald Trump was slurring his words pretty good last week for a guy who fancied himself an expert when it came to Hillary Clinton’s alleged brain damage. What would he make of his own slurred speech and bizarre behavior? brain tumor from the weight of that massive combover sitting on top of his head like a live farm animal? Simply slurred speech because his thoughts are so fantastic that his mouth can’t keep up?

Inside Trump´s Hour-by-Hour
Battle for Self-Preservation

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New York Times, by Maggie Haberman and Glenn Thrush    Original Article
Posted By: FlyRight- 12/9/2017 1:49:27 PM     Post Reply
WASHINGTON — Around 5:30 each morning, President Trump wakes and tunes into the television in the White House’s master bedroom. He flips to CNN for news, moves to “Fox & Friends” for comfort and messaging ideas, and sometimes watches MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” because, friends suspect, it fires him up for the day. Energized, infuriated — often a gumbo of both — Mr. Trump grabs his iPhone. Sometimes he tweets while propped on his pillow, according to aides. Other times he tweets from the den next door, watching another television. Less frequently, he makes his way up the hall to the

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