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Without archives on site, how will Obama
Center benefit area students, scholars?

Chicago Tribune, by Lolly Bowean

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Posted By:Pluperfect, 10/11/2017 5:33:43 AM

Once the Obama Presidential Center is constructed, it will have a children’s play garden, sledding hill, green spaces for picnics and outdoor gatherings, basketball courts and even a recording studio, officials have said. But what the space won’t have is all of former President Barack Obama’s manuscripts, documents, letters and gifts he collected during his time in office. While the Presidential Center is about four years from opening, a conversation has begun about what the facility will mean to scholars and to local research universities without those items. Traditionally, Presidential Libraries are places where historians, academics and college students travel to dig

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This is looking more and more like an expensive taxpayer-funded shrine, not a president library.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: pchristopher, 10/11/2017 5:51:13 AM     (No. 11412907)

A YMCA / Boys Club would be a better investment in the neighborhood. At least they provide worthwhile services.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Lawsy0, 10/11/2017 6:00:23 AM     (No. 11412911)

Turn it over to the US Park Service and let them run it. I remember when that pseudo president closed access to national parks for citizens AND he blocked access for Veterans to a private memorial in DC. Besides, it hasn´t been demonstrated that any Obama fans can read, so why clutter the park up with books?

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Mobyclik, 10/11/2017 6:45:38 AM     (No. 11412942)

I´m waiting for the announcement of the 50 foot statue of The One...ala Stalin. Dictators LOVE those things.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: califedup, 10/11/2017 6:49:11 AM     (No. 11412944)

No need to fret about the absence of any letters (probably all written in crayon), documents (probably just piles of shredded paper), manuscripts (both Ex-Dictator Obama and his low IQ "wife" can barely read and write)- instead just stock the building with cases and cases of toilet paper and that is all scholars need to "study" to get a historical feel for the true nature of the Obama years.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: privateer, 10/11/2017 6:55:05 AM     (No. 11412947)

Sounds to me more like a theme park. BarryWood.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: dbdiva, 10/11/2017 6:57:30 AM     (No. 11412950)

Why would students or scholars even want to see old ´March Madness´ brackets? Nothing worthwhile there. Better they should wait until ValJar sets up HER library.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: arcady, 10/11/2017 7:24:54 AM     (No. 11412975)

Just like everything else about Obama, this is fake too.

The worst Presidential Library ever, for the worst President ever. It´s only fitting it will be in Chicago, and Crook County Illinois.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: god of irony, 10/11/2017 7:30:03 AM     (No. 11412983)

Why would anyone expect Obama to open now? He´s spent his whole life trying to obscure his past.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: provide, 10/11/2017 7:33:20 AM     (No. 11412985)

Maybe they can sell CTA tickets there or "The Road to the White House" bus tour to compete with the Al Capone Tour.


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Reply 10 - Posted by: Udanja99, 10/11/2017 7:40:48 AM     (No. 11412989)

Why would there be any archives when everything about his life up until he ran for office has been sealed away? Then everything he did in office was a failure and an embarrassment. Now all of it is being gutted by PDT. What else can they archive - Reggie Love’s kneepads? Smidgen’s coke spoon? Mooch’s jock strap?

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Udanja99, 10/11/2017 7:41:45 AM     (No. 11412994)

Hit submit too soon.

Not to mention that none of the area students and “scholars” can read.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Rather Read, 10/11/2017 7:48:23 AM     (No. 11413000)

It doesn´t look like The Won wants scholars to study his presidency. I will probably be dead before we know the whole truth, and am I predicting it won´t be pretty.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: BeatleJeff, 10/11/2017 7:48:40 AM     (No. 11413001)

Libaries be fo white people.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Truth Czar, 10/11/2017 7:53:26 AM     (No. 11413007)

A great expanse of nothingness with ZERO to offer students or scholars, the Obama Center will become a bloated monument to excess and waste... a perfect edifice to a hollow Flim-Flam man!

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Reply 15 - Posted by: lakerman1, 10/11/2017 8:23:27 AM     (No. 11413029)

One of the advantages of browsing actual archived files by researchers is that one can stumble on to interesting things.
One major disadvantage to the former president is that embarrassing things can be found. (The Vietnam War series on PBS illustrated my point.LBJ, JFK and Nixon all looked bad and cynical on the war.)
What Barack is doing with his non library library is making sure that the myth of his life is maintained, by controlling access.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: kono, 10/11/2017 8:23:33 AM     (No. 11413030)

A glorified community center for the splendidly-overrated community-organizer-in-chief.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Amereagle-redux, 10/11/2017 8:54:55 AM     (No. 11413065)

Maybe it´s a mausoleum to a failed "Presidency by executive fiat" and the utter wasteland of race relations that he left behind?

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Reply 18 - Posted by: PAdiva, 10/11/2017 9:02:31 AM     (No. 11413072)

´Without archives on site, how will Obama
Center benefit area students, scholars?´
DUH! a big choom room

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Reply 19 - Posted by: chicodon, 10/11/2017 9:10:45 AM     (No. 11413083)

Obama wants no one poring over his papers in the future.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: harleynyc, 10/11/2017 9:30:54 AM     (No. 11413107)

Looks to be a recruiting/training mecca. Besides, any documents would have been in ebonics or arabic.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: strike3, 10/11/2017 9:37:15 AM     (No. 11413108)

Scholars and academics in South Chicago? Gimme a break. It will soon be covered with graffiti and become a place for gang activity where thugs can worship at the alter of the greatest criminal of all time.

EXCELLENT, #5 and #10.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Ribald1, 10/11/2017 10:13:31 AM     (No. 11413153)

This is the bright future.
Put everything on the internet so that ´facts´ can be edited to match the current climate, just like Wankerpedia.
Times change, and history needs to be able to change also.
Stodgy old books and manuscripts stubbornly refuse to adapt, and must be abandoned.


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Reply 23 - Posted by: dwa, 10/11/2017 10:29:06 AM     (No. 11413176)

Remember when we couldn´t get any Susan Rice´s or other documents regarding unmasking because they had already been given to the Obama Presidential library? Hmmm, where are those documents since they aren´t going to be at the library?

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Reply 24 - Posted by: john56, 10/11/2017 11:01:13 AM     (No. 11413222)

I guess Obama´s hiring the same architects who designed Kim´s palaces and shrines in North Korea.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: earlybird, 10/11/2017 11:14:28 AM     (No. 11413240)

The building designs we’ve seen are beyond freakish. At this point, resentful of the money that has been spent to cart this stuff around (in the article) and the cost to taxpayers (mostly Illinois, right?)) for infrastructure, I’d say my evaluation is:

“At this point, what does it really matter?”

“Barrywood”. Works for me.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: earlybird, 10/11/2017 11:15:36 AM     (No. 11413243)

Botched. Should have said “At this point, what difference does it make?"

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Reply 27 - Posted by: bighambone, 10/11/2017 11:20:12 AM     (No. 11413256)

This way all the archived documents will not be out there for everyone to see, just the particular documents that the Obama crew decides to put on line.

Looks like the library will end up being an Obama socialist oriented propaganda center. Can’t see anyone going there other then the already on board choir.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: agrunt, 10/11/2017 12:07:53 PM     (No. 11413335)

“He hides what he is -- an example, no release of his school records or applications. All his life is hidden. The man is a lie. He can´t have a "biggest lie" because all he is, is lie.”
I wrote this in response to something several years ago. But it falls in line with what his so called library is. He will not make it easy to study him or his. It would be too easy to ask and answer questions about his life.


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Reply 29 - Posted by: mickturn, 10/11/2017 12:45:44 PM     (No. 11413386)

With all the glitz and BS, this will be nothing but a glorified Out House!

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Reply 30 - Posted by: varkdriver, 10/11/2017 12:50:08 PM     (No. 11413393)

#18, by Geroge I think you´ve got it. The only papers in this "center" will be the rolling variety! Zig Zag, anyone?

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Reply 31 - Posted by: rolfnader, 10/11/2017 1:39:12 PM     (No. 11413486)

Not to be a nitpicker but #17 misspelled "nausoleum".

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Reply 32 - Posted by: cheeflo, 10/11/2017 1:51:12 PM     (No. 11413499)

It won´t. I doubt it will benefit anyone, except Obama.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: dvc, 10/11/2017 10:33:51 PM     (No. 11414020)

Hillary deleted 30,000 emails.

Obama deleted EVERYTHING.

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Lois Lerner: ‘Exceedingly low’ public
interest in her IRS testimony

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Washington Times, by Stephen Dinan    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 12/12/2017 12:48:24 AM     Post Reply
Former IRS senior executive Lois G. Lerner told a federal court last week that there’s “no legitimate” reason why the public should see her testimony about her role in tea party targeting, pleading with a judge to keep her deposition permanently sealed. Ms. Lerner and her former chief lieutenant, Holly Paz, have said they faced death threats in the past, and say they fear any more attention to their behavior would spur a new round of harassment. They said there’s “exceedingly low” public interest in having their depositions released, and they said tea party groups are pushing for disclosure out


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