A Christian pro-life group that was recently ejected from a Seattle coffee shop over its local activism is attracting hundreds of thousands of Facebook views after footage of the encounter was posted online. Members of Abolish Human Abortion recently decided to order drinks in Seattle’s Bedlam coffee shop after posting and distributing pro-life pamphlets in the local community. Activists who joined Caleb Head and Caytie Davis on Oct. 1 were soon berated and told the leave when they were identified. “I’m gay. You have to leave,” owner Ben Borgman said in the video. “Are you denying us service?” Mr. Davis asked.
Comments: A tolerant liberal, who probably cheered the "gay wedding cake" case, struts his stuff.
Did Borgman make sense at all? He thinks anti-abortion materials are hidden in his shop? And "these people are working for Satan"? And says he was retaliating for harm they did? A dead baby picture is an affront to gays?
Tangled mind indeed. Borgman would scream if he was denied service for being gay. This incident is more about a crappy attitude than about civil rights. But some ordinance will apply anyway.
You have to have sympathy for the gays. They are hard core progressives, but are denied the right to kill babies that their comrades enjoy. Then some insufferable jerks go and rub the guy´s nose in it. He wants to kill babies like his prog friends, but is discriminated against and unable to do so. Those Christians should have offered up one of their children for the gay to kill so that he could feel more accepted among his peers.
Sorry earlier poster, but until Christian bakers are no longer targeted for destruction by your gaystapo, then you don´t get to have a double standard either. The law is a two way street Fella. All they wanted was coffee. They didn´t ask you to violate your own lifestyle choices.
"Gays" are NOT hardcore progressives. Some may be. But some are NOT. And some do NOT believe in abortion, but rather strongly believe it is one of the deepest, darkest sins against humanity. Some "gays" even strive to follow Jesus.
Please don´t lump all "gays" together. It´s quite foolish to do so.
Rather than lawsuits, I´d rather the government protect freedom of contract and property rights. There are more Christians who own businesses, and I´d rather any lawsuits directed at them from gays be thrown out of court, but in order to do that we need to be consistent about the rights of business owners and property owners. Being denied service from gays is a small price to pay to retain the right not to participate in "gay weddings", a right that belongs to everyone who objects to them, not only professing Christians.
This incident may not be a mirror of the bakery/florist cases. Here, the owner alleges that the customers planted pictures of aborted and dead babies, some hidden, around his shop and also did so without permission. If this is true then it adds a whole other element to his anger. If true, they were being inconsiderate at least and deceitful at most. I would like to hear their side of it and whatever law protects stores from unwanted promotions of various products or causes.
Isn´t refusing to serve EVERYONE the reason the reason Lester Maddox has become the icon for hatred, stupidity, and prejudice? Why are the arbiters of truth and morality quiet now during the same situation, but with different characters?
This video is all over social media. Regardless of his right to refuse service to anyone, this coffee shop owner is as vile as they come. His tirade is typical of the rage that is vomited out of the mouths of leftists 24/7/365.
#7 you are correct. Seattle does have an anti discrimination law. There is even an Office for Civil rights that specify religion and in a cafe. Mr Loud Mouth really stepped in it. Oh, wait, the CITY gets to choose ...well we know whose side they will take.
If one operates a licensed business, and virtually all require some license or other, you are held to the anti-discrimination laws in your jurisdiction. You may have the "right" to refuse service, but your license indicates you have an obligation to serve all. Those you refuse have the "right" to file a complaint and/or sue. Everyone can see everyone else in court.
Bedlam is a contraction of Bethlehem. Hence it would seem to be an appropriate place for Christians to gather.Maybe this was an unfortunate choice of name in the first place. Modern interpretation of the word bedlam has come to suggest confusion.
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