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How the Bee Gees went from
No. 1 to national pariahs

New York Post, by Michael Riedel

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Posted By:MissMolly, 9/24/2017 9:13:02 AM

In June 1979, the Bee Gees were on top of the world. Months before, their “Saturday Night Fever” soundtrack, featuring songs written and/or performed by the Australian trio, had won a Grammy for album of the year. The year before, it spent 24 weeks at No. 1 on the Billboard charts. And now the band was playing 60,000-seat arenas across America. Disco was king, and the Bee Gees — brothers Barry, Robin and Maurice Gibb, clad in white suits and flashing gold chains — were its ambassadors. At the start of the tour, Maurice got hold of a T-shirt that made everyone

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Attila DiMedici, 9/24/2017 9:36:22 AM     (No. 11393476)

I thought the article was going to explain why it happened. Instead, it was just an account of what happened. I already knew that. There were a few facts I did not already know, but nothing of interest.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: cjjeepercreeper, 9/24/2017 10:04:17 AM     (No. 11393516)

Ha! I was there at Steve Dahl´s disco protest at Comiskey Park. He was a DJ for a rock station WLUP, The Loop.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: harleynyc, 9/24/2017 10:16:37 AM     (No. 11393525)

I remember that. It really never happened in NYC, but whenever I left town for new england I was amused by the anti-disco sentiment, and was quite furious.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: harleynyc, 9/24/2017 10:18:54 AM     (No. 11393530)

edit above- I wasn´t furious, the anti-disco sentiment was furious. lol. * there really should be a 10 second edit window on this thing.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Aud, 9/24/2017 10:37:33 AM     (No. 11393548)

FTA "The Bee Gees, with their exposed hairy chests and high voices, were now the butt of “endless comedy sketches,” Spence writes."

I can identify with that --laughing, despite shuddering, whenever seeing photos of Burt Reynolds with way too much hair and the loathsome fu manchu moustache.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: bldrrepub, 9/24/2017 10:37:52 AM     (No. 11393550)

FTA: "Homophobia fueled much of the hatred. White men between the ages of 18 and 34 who loved rock “felt excluded, even threatened, by the disco scene,” Spence writes. “The phrase ‘disco sucks’ was a clear pejorative..."

Good Lord, everything is not about homosexuality. If homophobia among white men was that rampant, how does one explain the ascendancy of Freddie Mercury and Queen, the international Stardom of David´s Bowie, and the whole androgeny schtick that was present in rock and roll?

Disco died because it felt fake and manufactured.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: WV.Hillbilly, 9/24/2017 10:39:17 AM     (No. 11393552)

It was that stinking Sgt. Pepper´s Lonely Hearts Club Band movie that did them in.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: earlybird, 9/24/2017 11:16:58 AM     (No. 11393578)

They were wonderful. I recorded one of their concerts. Still like to watch it.

But then I loved to dance and enjoyed disco. Great fun for a time. All of these things have their time. How many do the Charleston any more?

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Reply 9 - Posted by: NorthernDog, 9/24/2017 11:31:24 AM     (No. 11393592)

This happens all the time in music. The 1950s were the most dramatic change when staid ballads, chirpy quartets, and mellow crooners were suddenly blown away by Rock N Roll.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: thomthomp, 9/24/2017 11:41:43 AM     (No. 11393604)

I liked disco and enjoyed the BeeGees. They had great talent as singers and songwriters, and I much prefer their music to the unintelligible (and when you can understand it often obscene)stuff that passes for music today.

And I hope #7 was kidding.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: lakerman1, 9/24/2017 12:00:39 PM     (No. 11393642)

You people are missing the point with Disco vs. Rock.
Occam´s Razor cuts yet again.
You had to be a good dancer to dance to Disco music. You can be a lousy dancer (Mrs. Lakerman forced or coerced me to take a ballroom dance class for our wedding, that´s how bad I was and still am) but anyone can leap, wiggle, wave arms about, to rock music. There is no standard.
(In the Saturday Night Fever movie, when John Travolta takes to the floor, other dancers leave. His female partner even sat down.)

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Reply 12 - Posted by: FL_Absentee_Voter, 9/24/2017 12:31:33 PM     (No. 11393696)

Disco Demolition Night: Chicago had to forfeit against Detroit because the explosion rendered the outfield unusable. When Dahl was asked about it afterward, he calmly replied that the Sox would have lost the game anyway. And, yes, the media was quick to suggest that it was all attributable to angry white men lashing out against black culture.

I´m grateful to have been born but truly wish it had been some other time, like...during the Plague. College (1974-79), which should have been among the best years of my life, were perhaps the worst because of these clowns and the entire disco craze, when chicks were only interested in guys who dressed like flames and could "disco" out on the dance floor. No one was happier than this kid when the punk invasion knocked the whole scene into oblivion. God bless Johnny Rotten.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: kono, 9/24/2017 12:48:14 PM     (No. 11393711)

I detested disco and was relieved to be free from the associated fashion nightmare. Shoulder-length hair, those polyester shirts and butt-hugging bell-bottom pants... shudder

Fair or not, I blame the contemporary genderconfusion on that godforsaken era.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: franq, 9/24/2017 12:54:24 PM     (No. 11393723)

Stale news. They were not a pariah, and have had one of the longest and most lucrative careers in all of pop music. Disco was just one chapter. Sadly only one brother remains.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: TexasAllTheWay, 9/24/2017 1:08:38 PM     (No. 11393740)

#14, you´re right, and they were three of the most down to earth people you wld ever want to know.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: FLCracker, 9/24/2017 1:18:39 PM     (No. 11393758)

#6, and because disco really only had one tune and no substance. It is, however, "easy to dance to", as they used to say on "American Bandstand."

(Rap, OTOH, has lots of substance (for good or bad), but no tune, and is not easy to dance to.


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Reply 17 - Posted by: Jennie C., 9/24/2017 1:24:47 PM     (No. 11393771)

My son had a great album called "Sesame Street Fever." It had a disco version of Rubber Ducky, and other original songs by, I think, Robin Gibb.

The cover art was identical to Saturday Night Fever, except Grover was dressed as Travolta, and in the same pose. Hilarious

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Reply 18 - Posted by: dman, 9/24/2017 1:30:35 PM     (No. 11393782)

Disco was a post-Vietnam post-Watergate release. We all had fun at the time.

But it was the Duck that killed disco.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: dman, 9/24/2017 1:33:13 PM     (No. 11393787)

"Disco Duck" not "Rubber Ducky".

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Mass Minority, 9/24/2017 1:47:26 PM     (No. 11393806)

Article is info free pablum for people who weren´t born until 10 yeras after disco died. As for homophobia being the cause, did this idiot ever here of Studio 54? Disco was all about sex. Well, sex and cocaine.

I had a great deal of trouble explaining to my son why we hated disco so much. But we did, it was the attempted murder of the spirit of rock and roll, from quirky individualism to an allmost communist style conformity. And the "music", uggh it really didn´t matter what the melody was or who sang it, just turn up the drum machine until the speakers start to tear and nobody will notice anyway. Punk rock took off, in part, because of the musical and cultural emptiness of Disco.

The backlash was a cultural Tsunami, just look at John Travoltas career. He was a huge name after Saturday Night Fever, then couldn´t get a role for over a decade. Now he is an A-lister, since cultural amnesia has set him free.



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Reply 21 - Posted by: Smart11344, 9/24/2017 2:18:11 PM     (No. 11393842)

Music is a very personal thing. I am glad to have grown up in the beginnings of Rock. The teen idol era, etc. Intitally, I enjoyed the Beatles, but when their music went into drug music and other fools followed, I lost interest. Melodies are what make music. Not, thump, thump, thump. I was delighted to see that old hag Madonna and her new cd is a total bust. Put on your pink hat and leave.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Island Life, 9/24/2017 2:32:54 PM     (No. 11393855)

I liked them and their music. They brought us a different trend, and many other singers caught on. Very sad that only Barry is left.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Hazymac, 9/24/2017 2:34:07 PM     (No. 11393859)

The Bee Gees had several peaks and valleys, but they ended well. The dynamite song below might have been their last great one before Maurice´s death in 2003. (In the video below Maurice plays guitar and Robin is the first one to sing. Barry is lying down at first.) And years from now they will still be providing pleasure to their listeners, myself included if I´m still around. I love the Bee Gees in all of their musical periods.)

"This Is Where I Came In" (Bee Gees, 2001)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5a95WRSWvHA

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Reply 24 - Posted by: doublesharp, 9/24/2017 2:35:49 PM     (No. 11393861)

Outlaw country was where me and my redneck crowd was at during the disco years. Willie, Waylon, David Allan Coe, Jerry Jeff Walker, and many others were cranking out sume great music. Later on in early 80s that faggy line dance crap took over but in the 70s freestyle ruled the dance floor except Texas where 2 step was always the way to get the best women.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: earlybird, 9/24/2017 2:59:40 PM     (No. 11393888)

Although the BeeGees were superstars (and continued to perform like them in that concert I mentioned up the thread, which was performed somewhat after their heyday), here were a few others whose names are memorable. 100 in this list.

https://digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_disco-artists.html

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Pete Stone, 9/24/2017 3:00:01 PM     (No. 11393889)

Re #24: There was a popular country song at the time called "Disco Sucks."
"Take me to a honky-tonk bar, Where I can hear me a steel guitar. I´ll take country music any day!"
That said it for me.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: earlybird, 9/24/2017 3:01:01 PM     (No. 11393891)

PS. Pariah = outcast. They were never outcasts. One tried to go his own way which tended to change things somewhat. Often happens.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: question_complexity, 9/24/2017 3:20:58 PM     (No. 11393917)

I saw the Bee Gees in early ´74 at Lincoln Center, long before disco took hold. I already had their Greatest Hits album and music book. Their music took a wrong turn with "Jive Talkin´"

P.S. The warmup act was a little-known duo from Philadelphia (Hall & Oates).

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Reply 29 - Posted by: franq, 9/24/2017 4:24:23 PM     (No. 11393986)

Sorry, #28, Main Course was their best album!

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Reply 30 - Posted by: joew9, 9/24/2017 5:14:09 PM     (No. 11394024)

Homophobia?! Threatened by the disco scene?! Pffttt.

I did not feel threatened nor homophobic.
The hippy rock and roll scene of the late 60´s and early 70´s eschewed dancing. It wasn´t cool. (Except for the lone hippy chick dancing alone for us to watch.) Watch the Woodstock movie. There was no dancing (again except for lone hippie chicks) The rest of us were into the music. It was a time of music intellectualism. And looking back after many decades(and observing the state of music today) we weren´t wrong. There were many new types and styles of music. You really had to concentrate to take it all in. You didn´t have time to dance. In many cases it would have been considered rude to the band to dance. (Especially The Band who would down right admonish their audience if they didn´t sit and listen respectfully. And frankly they deserved that attention. Their lead singer just got a Nobel prize.)

So disco was immediately boring to those that had feasted on the intellectualism of rock. It was all the same formula. There was even an industry standard disco beat. (155-130 bpm) We listened a few times and had it figured out and went on to something else.

The BeeGees were only popular in the pop scene. Disco saved them - it didn´t destroy them. Their 15 minutes were over long before that movie came out. It gave them another 30 and made them bigger than they ever were. And then they faded away. What else could have happened? I Started a Joke turned out to be prophetic.

And don´t even get me started on the disco clothing style. I´m still certain that leisure suits cause cancer.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: frenesi1, 9/24/2017 8:20:43 PM     (No. 11394167)

I, for one, loved the Bee Gees.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: Fosterdad, 9/24/2017 11:47:56 PM     (No. 11394298)

#28, I saw Hall and Oates in May in St. Louis. After 40+ years they still have it.

The Bee Gees were actually quite good prior to Saturday Night Fever.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: broken01, 9/25/2017 9:30:21 AM     (No. 11394627)

Growing up in rural WV in the 70s and 80s we didn´t have rap music on the radio. All we had was rock, country, bluegrass and disco. I liked the Bee Gees and I remember as a young boy looking at t he teenagers and older adult males trying to dress like them. It was a hoot and the girls liked it especially if you could dance. Music from that time has drastically changed because now you have Arianna Grande, Justin Bieber and Taylor Swift being top notch these days.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: anonymous, 9/25/2017 9:55:57 AM     (No. 11394671)

The Bee Gees were wonderful back then - just wonderful. Everything they touched turned to gold. They had the world at their feet. Night Fever and More Than a Woman are my two favorite songs of theirs from the Saturday Night Fever soundtrack. Before turning disco, they were better known for their ballads such as Massachusetts and Words.

The article over-simplifies their so-called demise. There was no banishment. What happened was punk and new wave and hard rock. Blondie hit big in 1979 and so did other bands like The Cars. The sound was changing. Then you had that explosion of New Romantic/synthesizer pop from the UK, such as Human League.

At the end of the day, the Bee Gees´ songs can still be heard as freshly as they sounded back then. Their secret was their harmonies, their arrangements, and the fact that they were a thoroughly decent bunch of lads.

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Hillary Clinton slammed what she called "endemic" sexism and misogyny in America during an interview with Fareed Zakaria, which aired Sunday. Clinton, who was interviewed by Zakaria on his show, "GPS," said sexism was so inherent that she purposely hadn´t highlighted her career history of fighting for women´s rights when she ran for president in 2016. However, she admitted that with the benefit of hindsight, she "could have tried harder" to do so. "I´m a middle-class girl from the middle of the country, and so I always struggled with like, OK, so what´s my story. And it suddenly dawned on me that

Pilot boots New York activist
from American Airlines flight

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New York Daily News, by Erin Durkin    Original Article
Posted By: NorthernDog- 10/16/2017 3:22:10 PM     Post Reply
New York activist Tamika Mallory says she was booted from an American Airlines flight in Miami after a pilot inserted himself into a dispute over her seat assignment. Mallory, a co-chair of the Women’s March on Washington, was traveling home to New York when the pilot followed her to scold her over an argument she had with a gate agent. He then had her summoned from her seat and kicked off the flight, she told the Daily News. “It definitely was white male aggression. I was singled out, I was disrespected, and he was trying to intimidate me. I was

How Hillary Clinton Still Can, and
Should, Become President After
The Trump Russia-Investigation

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Newsweek, by Julia Glum    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 10/17/2017 12:43:14 PM     Post Reply
Sure, it´s been more than 340 days since Donald Trump beat Hillary Clinton, but there´s still one very narrow, highly unlikely and entirely unprecedented way that Clinton could become president. And it has some Democratic die-hards dreaming again. Harvard University professor Lawrence Lessig offered a Clinton path to the presidency on Medium, putting forward a series of "if/then" scenarios that lead to House Speaker Paul Ryan handing the White House keys to Clinton. Here´s how constitutional law expert Lessig lays it out: If number 1: If Trump is definitively found to have colluded directly with Russia, he would be forced to resign or

Hillary Clinton defends kneeling
NFL players, says ´that´s not
against our anthem or flag´

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Fox News, by Lukas Mikelionis    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 10/16/2017 8:12:36 AM     Post Reply
Hillary Clinton on Sunday defended NFL players who knelt during the national anthem, saying kneeling is a “reverent” position that is not against “our anthem or our flag.” The former Democratic presidential candidate, who was at the Southbank Centre´s London Literature Festival, urged Democrats to use the issue against President Trump. Clinton was embarking on a foreign trip to promote her book “What Happened.” She said people should resist “what are very clear dog-whistles” to the Trump base, pointing to the example of kneeling NFL players. “That´s what black athletes kneeling was all about,” she said in response to a question about ways to

Jane Fonda says she´s not
proud of America

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Fox News, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: PageTurner- 10/17/2017 2:38:14 PM     Post Reply
Jane Fonda made it clear she is not proud of America. During a recent interview with the BBC, Fonda was asked, "Are you proud of America today?" The actress was very quick to reply with a hard "no." "But, I’m proud of the resistance," she elaborated. "I’m proud of the people who are turning out in unprecedented numbers and continue over and over and over again to protest what Trump is doing. I’m very proud of them, that core." During the same interview, the 79-year-old was asked if she had a "sense of regret" for her visit to North Vietnam in 1972. The

NFL Hell: Stadiums Nearly Empty Across
League As Backlash Grows (Photos)

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Gateway Pundit, by Joshua Caplan    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 10/16/2017 11:10:49 AM     Post Reply
If the NFL thought Americans would ease the backlash against the league — they were sadly mistaken. Photos of empty stadiums from around the league show how dire a situation kneelers have spurred. (Photo) Breitbart News reports: Note, that the Jets played New England on Sunday, meaning there should have been a big crowd for that game. The Texans, Atlanta, and Baltimore are also very relevant teams with relatively loyal fan bases. Yet, thousands upon thousands of fans no-showed or didn’t buy tickets for those games. (Photos/Tweet) Here’s a shot of the Jaguars stadium at kickoff: (Tweet) Photos of empty

Kaepernick Files Grievance Against
NFL Owners, Alleges Collusion to
Keep Him Out

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Legal Insurrection, by Mary Chastain    Original Article
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Former NFL quarter Colin Kaepernick has filed a grievance against NFL owners because he believes they colluded to keep him out of a job due to his protests during the national anthem. Kaepernick first protested in the 2016 preseason when he took a knee during the national anthem. He claimed he protested against racial injustice across the country. The protests took off, with many players following his lead.Kaepernick hired criminal defense lawyer Mark Geragos, who has represented Michael Jordan and musician Chris Brown. CBS Sports reported this statement from Geragos: We can confirm that this morning we filed a grievance under the

Emotional John McCain slams ´half-baked,
spurious nationalism´ sweeping America in
speech aimed at Trump as Joe Biden
presents him with lifetime of service award

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Daily Mail [UK] & Associated Press, by Regina F. Graham    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 10/17/2017 8:36:22 AM     Post Reply
Sen. John McCain warned against the US turning toward ´half-baked, spurious nationalism´ and jabbed at unnamed pushers of isolationist politics while at an event honoring the war hero´s contributions. (Snip) ´To abandon the ideals we have advanced around the globe, to refuse the obligations of international leadership for the sake of some half-baked, spurious nationalism cooked up by people who would rather find scapegoats than solve problems, is as unpatriotic as an attachment to any other tired dogma of the past that Americans consigned to the ash heap of history,´ he said. He added: ´We live in a land made of

Durbin: If Democrats ‘Overdo It’ by Being
too Liberal, We Can Lose to Trump

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Washington Free Beacon, by Andrew Kugle    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 10/16/2017 1:22:37 PM     Post Reply
Senate Minority Whip Dick Durbin (D., Ill.) said in a radio interview on Sunday that Democrats can lose to President Donald Trump in 2020 if they "overdo it" by becoming too liberal. Durbin was asked on a local Chicago radio program about comments from Rep. Cheri Bustos (D., Ill.), who warned fellow Democrats that Trump would be reelected if the party becomes too liberal. CNN reporter Andrew Kaczynski was first to report on Durbin´s comments. (Audio) "We need to be balanced," Durbin said on "Connected to Chicago" on WLS-AM. "She´s right about that. And as downstater like her, I understand


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