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Will California Ever Thrive Again?
Investors Business Daily, by Victor Davis Hanson

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Posted By:MissMolly, 7/10/2017 5:10:00 AM

There was more of the same old, same old California news recently. Some 62% of state roads have been rated poor or mediocre. There were more predictions of huge cost overruns and yearly losses on high-speed rail -- before the first mile of track has been laid. One-third of Bay Area residents were polled as hoping to leave the area soon. Such pessimism is daily fare, and for good reason. The basket of California state taxes -- sales, income and gasoline -- rates among the highest in the U.S. Yet California roads and K-12 education rank near the bottom. After years of drought,


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Reply 1 - Posted by: pchristopher, 7/10/2017 5:27:19 AM     (No. 11313994)

California is very much akin to an alcoholic who won´t admit that they have a problem.

Can they get better? Sure, but not until they have crashed and hit rock bottom and admit to themselves that their way of doing things was completely wrong. THEN they can get and accept help to begin to heal and thrive again.

Not until then.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: watashiyo, 7/10/2017 6:04:26 AM     (No. 11314005)

It´s too late. Because...., you can´t fix STUPID.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: F15 Gork, 7/10/2017 6:29:57 AM     (No. 11314015)

California and Obamacare should be treated the same - stand aside and let them collapse. Neither can be fixed.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: jeffkinnh, 7/10/2017 6:53:19 AM     (No. 11314026)

It should also be noted that the same elites from Kalifornia that have ruined the state are fueling the hatred in the Country and insisting that the Country follow the same path to ruin that they have taken for their state.

It is insane after having demonstrated the complete failure of their ideas to INSIST that they be used nationwide and also insist that these same corrosive and destructive policies are the only wholesome choice we can make. Experience and knowledge prove that Kalifornia is wrong yet they persist. They are addicts of Socialism and they can´t get the monkey off their backs.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Bubby, 7/10/2017 7:10:32 AM     (No. 11314039)

FTA "One in three American welfare recipients resides in California."

Let that stat sink in. Cali has 1/3 of the country´s total welfare recipients - in just one state. Do you think it might be connected to another stat in the article? "One in four state residents was not born in the U.S."

And yet the Sacrmento Bee EDITORIAL BOARD writes "We hate President Donald Trump’s idea of building a big, hideous wall at the Mexican border. It won’t stop illegal immigration and would waste billions of dollars. Trump has used the concept as a demagogic tool to gin up his base, and has unnecessarily antagonized Mexico, one of this country’s closest friends."

My guess is the answer to Victor Davis Hanson´s question is NO!

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Udanja99, 7/10/2017 7:13:23 AM     (No. 11314040)

This is what happens when the state government spends all of its revenue on harboring illegals and providing them with every entitlement known to man, including tuition to state universities.

You can´t fix stupid and you pretty much can´t fix this kind of insanity.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: zoidberg, 7/10/2017 7:35:44 AM     (No. 11314047)

California tumbles into the sea
That´ll be the day I go back to Annandale

-Steely Dan, "My Old School"

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Reply 8 - Posted by: varkdriver, 7/10/2017 8:04:26 AM     (No. 11314067)

Strongly agree with all above comments. An excellent piece by Professor Hanson.

Perfect example of Mrs. Thatcher´s definition of socialism by running out of ´other people´s money´. There is a website that lists the huge pensions paid to Cali state employees.

Also perfect definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over.

It is a beautiful state with abundant natural resources; too bad the leadership is so bad. But at least they have a US Senator who is black, foul-mouthed AND female!

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Reply 9 - Posted by: jinx, 7/10/2017 8:14:02 AM     (No. 11314074)

All of their problems can be traced back to the Socialist leaders of both parties. I can remember years ago when California started the Open Classroom policy which was a disaster. The problem was that the rest of the country followed suit and by the time CA had figured out it wasn´t working and was trying something else, it became a failure in all the states. Why the Dept. of Education thinks CA knows how to do anything well is beyond me.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: dwa, 7/10/2017 8:29:57 AM     (No. 11314090)

"One-third of Bay Area residents were polled as hoping to leave the area soon." So, the radical Leftists ruin their state by electing a one party system of radical Leftists and then because it has become so bad, they want to leave and spread their cancer to other states in the union.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Pilot222, 7/10/2017 8:35:56 AM     (No. 11314095)

A good barometer of the attitude and intelligence of the state of Kalifornia is to see who they pick to represent them. Based on this,they will continue to sink into chaos. The only hope is to let them wander into complete bankruptcy or please leave the union and start your own country. Kalimehico.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: RayLRiv, 7/10/2017 8:56:44 AM     (No. 11314111)

Not in my personal sphere of preference - I have no desire to do anything in CA.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: bpl40, 7/10/2017 9:03:22 AM     (No. 11314115)

Before you get out of a hole you have to stop digging. All I hear coming from the entire Left Coast are loud noises of constant digging.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: mickturn, 7/10/2017 9:11:11 AM     (No. 11314124)

Californication and the Leftists that run it are in a race to the sewer with Illinois...New Yorkie, Mass, and Colorado are close behind.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: hershey, 7/10/2017 9:22:28 AM     (No. 11314144)

They haven´t even built one mile of high speed rail??? Baawahahaha...wait until they try to build tunnels through the San Andreas Fault lines....
Kalifornia redefines ´stupidity´....they had Gov. Moonbeam, kicked him out, and then re-elected him....

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 7/10/2017 9:23:30 AM     (No. 11314147)

I really don´t have a good word for the type of situation California is in. As a kid in my early teens, I lived in Sacramento. It was fantastic. We had the best schools, our lives were pretty much free. We would walk just one block from my house to go shoot frogs with our 22´s and we were 14 years old! I was in the California Cadet Corps, and a champion shooter on my high school rifle team. We kept our 22 cal precision target rifles in a closet in our class room! We had 60 "Men" on our team and on our precision marching team. On "Uniform Day" we wore our uniforms and were highly respected parts of our student body.

Now it´s all Kaleefourneeyah- The people´s Republik. All just gone- not much left of it. And the horror is, the "What Ever They Ares" won´t stop ruining it.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: curious1, 7/10/2017 9:38:34 AM     (No. 11314168)

#16, you can trace the problem back to our ancestors failure to eradicate the various flavors of communists that showed up in this country. Allowing them to remain and live in a country is as insane as allowing mooslimes to remain and live in your country.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: columba, 7/10/2017 10:38:30 AM     (No. 11314214)

Alta California was doing well when it was a part of New Spain; however, a revolting Mexico took it over and decided that the help given to the area by the Church was not as amenable to control as government control. The attachment of the area to the United States has been as controlling as Mexico, and as we all know, government "help" means only government control.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Italiano, 7/10/2017 10:46:28 AM     (No. 11314226)

There is a solution, but only one.

And it does not involve elections.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Freeloader, 7/10/2017 10:59:21 AM     (No. 11314247)

Will Kalifornia ever thrive again?...Not if the citizens of "The Golden State" insist on electing leftist psychos, who bark at the moon, as their future governors!

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Reply 21 - Posted by: BeatleJeff, 7/10/2017 11:00:23 AM     (No. 11314249)

As long as Californians continue to elect imbeciles like Moonbeam Brown and KKKamala Harris, they´re screwed.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: kgjj, 7/10/2017 11:28:52 AM     (No. 11314282)

California is like a gangrenous limb. It needs to be amputated and left in a garbage pail to rot into putrid

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Heraclitus, 7/10/2017 11:35:20 AM     (No. 11314291)

Venezuela ought to be discussed at every campaign rally or political speech, because that is the future of any communist/socialist state.

Venezuela can´t look over the horizon at 49 other States thinking, "Hey. If things get too bad, those guys will bail us out."

California thinks they can and even have a right to get financial help from the rest of us.

The really big and in many ways tragic problem is this very welfare-state mentality:
some needed help, got it, felt (and were made) more and more comfortable not doing anything to improve their lives.
Whatever ingenuity they´d had is now gone.
many arrived there (much like what´s going on in Denver, etc) expecting to immediately go on public services. Maybe they´d been on it elsewhere and that´s all they know. They think it´s their job to go down to the welfare office even if they´ve just arrived in our Country.

Either way, what socialists do is destroy the human spirit, dignity and will to overcome.

After welfare reform of the 90s (passed by the Congress and finally signed into Law by Clinton), the work requirement actually began to force people out of lethargy AND hopelessness and into productivity. Mayny began to experience a sense of dignity.

Communism/socialism is cruel and inhumane.

Some time ago it occurred to me that the once Golden State could only be seen as the Fool´s Gold State.

Maybe Clooney from his walled LA fortress can come up with some ideas? /s

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Hotrod, 7/10/2017 12:13:07 PM     (No. 11314346)

How can California be so screwed up? The democrats out there have such good intentions! I suppose the only way to fix it is to continue raising taxes and putting illegal immigrants on the dole...

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Reply 25 - Posted by: dman, 7/10/2017 1:13:29 PM     (No. 11314404)

California is a prime candidate for a "good old-fashioned" purge. Drive them out, and the Central Valley desert will bloom again.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: danvillebill, 7/10/2017 2:29:24 PM     (No. 11314453)

I´m pretty sure that everything will be fine in California once the high speed rail system is completed on 9 AM, September 30th, 2128 between North Fresno and South Fresno.

Add that to universal mandatory free health care for humans, pets, and barnyard animals and California will be the envy of the world.

(so glad we left)

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Reply 27 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua, 7/11/2017 10:55:07 AM     (No. 11315401)

Short answer: No.

California is big corrupt controlling government in all its glory. Some people get rich, everyone else pays to make it possible. Money for roads and education? Are you kidding?!? It´s more important to use tax dollars to buy votes and buy elections. The era of buying a drunk a bottle of wine for his vote is over. Today, they want six digit salaries.

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The recent behavior of a number of spoiled, privileged, ungrateful NFL players is unacceptable to most Americans, NFL fans or not. (snip) It would be so satisfying if a group of patriotic fans to have at the ready a flash mob of singers at a stadium game. If the players "take a knee" to show their disdain for the flag and the national anthem, these talented souls would wait until just before the kick-off and then stand up and belt out the national anthem themselves. Chances are hundreds of those in attendance would join them. Then they would exit the

Giants owners blast Trump for ‘offensive
and divisive’ comments

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New York Post, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 9/24/2017 7:04:47 AM     Post Reply
Giants owners John Mara and Steve Tisch had a harsh reaction to President Trump’s called for NFL owners to fire players who refuse to stand for the national anthem. “Comments like we heard last night from the president are inappropriate, offensive and divisive,” Mara and Tisch said in a statement Saturday. “We are proud of our players, the vast majority of whom use their NFL platform to make a positive difference in our society.” Trump initially addressed the issue during a campaign rally speech in Alabama for Senator Luther Strange, asserting that owners should fire “any son of a b—h”

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