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Something is fishy about USS Fitzgerald
story we are getting from the media

American Thinker, by Thomas Lifson

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Posted By:magnante, 6/18/2017 9:27:29 AM

Under no circumstances should a US Navy vessel possibly be damaged by a container ship at sea. Multiple systems exist to prevent this. Even CNN is noticing how little we know about the catastrophe that took the lives of seven sailors and almost caused a powerful warship to founder. The USS Fitzgerald, an anti-ballistic missile destroyer that was part of the USS Ronald Reagan carrier strike group, will no longer be ready to defend the carrier and other ships from missile attacks launched from North Korea, should push come to shove in the current confrontation with the rogue regime on the


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Reply 1 - Posted by: plex, 6/18/2017 9:49:55 AM     (No. 11290225)

I guess I would have thought that the ship would have been visible via radar for a long time. There is clearly more to this story.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: ScarletPimpernel, 6/18/2017 9:58:18 AM     (No. 11290237)

This is highly disturbing. And I think this piece should be at the top of the page, if there is still room.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: LittleHoodedMonk, 6/18/2017 9:59:33 AM     (No. 11290239)

After reading this article, it seems scary now how the destroyer does appeared to be rammed by the container ship. Looking at the front of it shows that they didn´t bump into each other "causally." I can only hope our State department has immediately sent agents to investigate and not let one of the crew off the ship. Second, remember, we are currently assisting the Philippine government (again) with trying to eradicate Daesh led Abu Sayyaf. My aluminum hat is buzzing.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: planetgeo, 6/18/2017 10:08:15 AM     (No. 11290252)

Everything about this incident so far is very strange, implausible, and yes, fishy. A modern US Navy destroyer could literally run circles around that container ship. And unless that was massive dereliction and/or incompetence on the part of the captain and crew of our destroyer (not ruling that out yet due to 8 years of an Obama-ized Navy), some weird kind of drop or handoff with the container ship could be a possibility.

In any event, the Western news sources have totally dropped the ball in reporting on this incident. The continued headlines implying that the destroyer "collided" with that ship were totally contradicted by the first pictures showing that the destroyer had been T-boned by the ship.

Can our media get any worse in reporting simple facts?

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Reply 5 - Posted by: thelmalou, 6/18/2017 10:09:40 AM     (No. 11290255)

Holy crap!!! Add to this the rumor (?) that the container ship changed course abruptly several times just before the collision, and Geez Louise!!

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Reply 6 - Posted by: gone2pot, 6/18/2017 10:12:01 AM     (No. 11290259)

Under no circumstances should a US Navy vessel possibly be damaged by a container ship at sea.

Thomas is correct, however there IS another side of the story here.

Just based on the article, the container ship was the privileged vessel. He had the right of way and was far less maneuverable. Plus, the Navy ship had a MUCH better ability to give way to the cargo ship. The Navy ship had surface search radar, along with every other Navy ship in the carrier task force and they ALL saw the monstrously EASY TO SPOT HUGE blip for several minutes with constant bearing and decreasing range in plenty of time to get the hell out of the way. Having gone to the Naval Academy, although commissioned in the Marine Corps, the Navy ship was burdened and was supposed to give way to the cargo ship and I wasn´t even the smartest guy in my signals class. The Navy ship was burdened, should have easily seen the huge contact on his radar AND was much more maneuverable than the cargo ship regardless of the cargo ship´s lack of running lights or failure to squawk. I smell dumb ensign or dumb Ltjg at the conn while the skipper was catching a few minutes of sleep or grabbing a sandwich in the wardroom. I also smell a "No-Band-Change-of-Command" for the skipper.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: coldoc, 6/18/2017 10:17:22 AM     (No. 11290264)

Looking at the course track it would be reasonable to conclude the ramming was intentional. That does not absolve the crew of failure to avoid or self defense. This reminds me of the USS Cole, which allowed the bombers to approach because of their silly rules of engagement. Too PC to blast the fools out of the water.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: uno, 6/18/2017 10:20:35 AM     (No. 11290269)

A container ship doesn´t just change course abruptly. These things are huge! With all the radar defense systems, somebody was asleep at the wheel. I´m guessing the captain and crew were still Obama-partying like it wuz 2012 and not paying attention to an incoming 200 ton torpedo!

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Reply 9 - Posted by: dvc, 6/18/2017 10:23:35 AM     (No. 11290272)

Thinking you have the facts from the media is a mistake. We are always misinformed by the media, why would this be different? This is a special technical area, and the media are especially incompetent in those situations.

The skipper and his bridge team were likely just simply incompetent. However, the ship handling of civilian ships is often erratic on a level difficult to believe, so we need to wait for the board of inquiry report.

I know a former USN very large ship´s captain, and collisions at night, especially in busy waterways was a constant threat. Large ships are dramatically less maneuverable than most people think, and it takes huge time and distance to affect course changes. It takes lots of competent planning and teamwork to thread through a busy area with many ships.

Never assume malfeasance when simple error or incompetence will suffice to explain a failure.

The captain was new, which means his team was new, his interaction with them not well established. They were still learning to work together, seems likely that they failed. The captain is 100% responsible for any team failure.

Wait for the board of inquiry report, but in all probability, the captain´s career will be over. I know of one class of collision which is not necessarily a career ender, suction during underway replenishment. Perhaps there are others. This was not that, but perhaps the container ship did a sudden maneuver, but we do not know. Yet.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: ArthurDent, 6/18/2017 10:57:24 AM     (No. 11290314)

Just on the face of it -
There is no way they ´missed´ this thing coming.

Contrary to another post, this ship could weigh over 100,000 tons. WWII battleships were over 68,000 tons.

There´s no way something of that mass made a ´sudden maneuver´ that was unavoidable to a ship that was alert to the other strange thing this ship was doing.

It may be that there was some benefit to not giving away response info, or deploying certain countermeasures, but it certainly looks suspect at this point.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: frodo, 6/18/2017 11:00:23 AM     (No. 11290318)

Something is fishy.

A container ship is slow to maneuver, however changing its rate of speed is a bit easier to manage, especially slowing down.

The damage to the container ship is port side suggesting that ship was traversing towards starboard as relative to the Fitzgerald.

I´m imagining a scenario where the Fitzgerald slowed to give right-of-way, when that ship at the last minute suddenly slowed and turned starboard. (reverse engines)

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Reply 12 - Posted by: volksford, 6/18/2017 11:10:03 AM     (No. 11290327)

Well, being an ex navy man in the navigation dept...who in hell plots a course like that container ship ran ? I smell intentional ramming.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 6/18/2017 11:13:23 AM     (No. 11290335)

The captain took command in may of 2016!! He was not new. The crew is highly experienced and trained. And to speculate that the U.S. Navy crew at the helm and on the bridge of this 1.8 billion dollar vessel was some how "asleep at the switch" is absolutely absurd. Also, Navy ship captains are not Super Men or robots. They are humans and are entitled, like every one else to get sleep in order to stay sharp and healthy. This was not a wartime situation. The completely radical movement of this cargo ship indicated either break down or confusion (why?) on the bridge. something really bad was going on on that cargo ship- I speculate it was entirely human caused because break downs of steering would immediately call for a reduction of speed. This thing was under control by someone and that someone did not call for a reductions of speed. The ship hair pinned completely across the crowded shipping lanes, with NO running lights in pitch dark, with radar on. As for the Navy vessel not taking evasive action, you might also remember the "crowded shipping lane" and a sea filled with smaller vessels, including ferries and passenger ships. Obviously, there were other considerations for the US crew to think about and they had only seconds to deal with it.

Let us wait for more info. Please!

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Reply 14 - Posted by: uno, 6/18/2017 11:29:58 AM     (No. 11290355)

´scuse me, I left the k of of 200k Ton surface torpedo.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: dvc, 6/18/2017 11:31:56 AM     (No. 11290356)

#13, I know of a situation during a collision where the skipper of a USN aircraft carrier froze and the bridge logs showed ZERO commands given during many minutes during a collision, from the moment that a collision warning was issued until well after the collision. That is certainly unusual, but it happened.

Do not assume that all USN ship´s captains are always competent, you will be disappointed. The overwhelming majority are absolutely outstanding, stellar in every way. A few are not. If the the media reports that the captain was new were wrong, I stand corrected and refer to my comments about media misinformation.

In any case, let the board of inquiry play out.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: CaptainLibra, 6/18/2017 11:32:58 AM     (No. 11290359)

#3. Please. The last people we want investigating this incident are those from the State Department. They don´t do Naval investigations, the Navy does. Oh that´s right, Jon F´ing Cary, former SecState, was a Naval hero in Viet Nam and drives his wife´s huge yacht home-ported in R.I. He would be well qualified to look into this.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: MDConservative, 6/18/2017 11:37:09 AM     (No. 11290366)

Something is fishy about conspiracy stories that involve a container ship "ramming" a naval destroyer. The destroyer was not without active systems and trained crew on watch in a highly trafficked zone to protect itself from a glorified barge that reportedly did a "strange" 180 deg turn 25 minutes prior to the "ramming".

BTW: The owner of the ship is Sea Quest Ship Management - Cavite, Phillipines. It´s currently in port in Japan. Check it out.

BTW2: An "unnamed source" passing on hear-say.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: BruisedOrange, 6/18/2017 11:55:25 AM     (No. 11290393)

Thank you #13 for bringing corrective sanity to our discussion so far. There must be more parts to this story, to construct a scenario where a nimble destroyer, with radar and satellite eyes on their surroundings, gets rammed by a lumbering container ship.

Is there a scenario sufficient to cause the skipper to determine that being rammed was the better choice? Or might the destroyer have been temporarily blinded or disabled by a technological attack?

If the Fitzgerald was set up for this collision by technological disruption, the fact of that would immediately become Top Secret "need-to-know only" while it is investigated. If it became known that an enemy of the West claims that capability, it could effectively put naval projection of power into drydock and stifle world oceanic trade.

It´s another fact of life the globalists fail to acknowledge: the more inter-connected the world becomes, the greater the number of soft-points and vulerabilities presenting asymmetric consequences.

It´s a spider / starfish thing. Macro organization may be great for offense, but it´s hell to defend.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Fledrmaus, 6/18/2017 12:00:36 PM     (No. 11290401)

The armed forces have been the Left´s plaything for years now. We complain constantly at every idiotic directive mandating diversity, indulgence of sexual deviates and mental malcontents. Yet we refuse to connect the dots all the way to the end of the trail, which leads to an incompetence and bungling out in the real world. What else is all this conspiracy-mongering, but a reflexive refusal to admit that "our boys" could be anything but innocent and perfect?

I´m betting this ship contained a healthy seasoning of racial and sexual misfits, doing what you´d expect them to do and goofing off in the middle of the night. There might even have been a bit of "Hold my beer" derring-do as the officer in charge decided to show off his ship´s speed and maneuverability, only to misjudge the distance and come to grief.

In any case, let´s stop this assumption that ONLY some evil foreign devil could be responsible for an American naval mishap. This is what all the experimenting has been building toward for years, and expect to see more of it.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: KanCreeper, 6/18/2017 12:24:33 PM     (No. 11290440)

FIRST: Let it be Crystal Clear...The ´Media´ is spinning this story to suit their narrative.
SECOND: That container ship is no bathtub toy, turning it and stopping it take lots of time and planning. That Destroyer, is a far more agile, maneuverable ship.
THIRD: My bet is that the Container ship, was "aimed" at the Destroyer...[No Accident, THERE ARE Fillipino Sympathizers of Abu Sayef {Terrorists]

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Reply 21 - Posted by: gone2pot, 6/18/2017 1:11:01 PM     (No. 11290475)

13, your assumptions are valid however, these are facts from the article and the pictures. The cargo ship saw the green starboard running lights of the Fitz before the collision. That gives the cargo ship right of way, period and makes the Fitz the burdened vessel, period. Also, the cargo ship was less maneuverable by orders of magnitude than the Fitz making the cargo vessel privileged, period. Those are facts per the international maritime rules of the road. Notwithstanding the years of experience and training; the Fitz´ inability to figure out the cargo ship´s reported erratic behavior; proximity to other vessels; buoys; running lights off; cargo ship not squawking on the IFF; etc, those might be mitigating factors but getting T-Boned by a ship infinitely less maneuverable on your starboard side abeam when that ship is clearly and easily the privileged and less maneuverable vessel does not bode well for the skipper of the Fitz. If the cargo vessel was to the Fitz´ starboard, close aboard due to tight shipping lanes, made a sharp (yet incredibly S-L-O-W) left turn into the Fitz´ starboard side and the Fitz was, for some valid reason (like the cargo ship placing the Fitz en extremis due to buoys, other vessels, etc) unable to maneuver then that might mitigate the rules of the road. Otherwise, it´s not looking good for the skipper of the Fitz.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: catfur27, 6/18/2017 1:59:27 PM     (No. 11290500)

ny slimes headline tomorrow : Trump incompetence leads to ship collision- many deaths. Schumer calls for Special Prosecutor.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: mamafrog, 6/18/2017 2:32:27 PM     (No. 11290525)

We never know the whole truth about military operations - nor should we.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Alex, 6/18/2017 2:39:24 PM     (No. 11290530)

#13: Cdr. Bryce Benson assumed command of the Fitzgerald May 13, 2017 not 2016.


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Reply 25 - Posted by: redwhite&blue2, 6/18/2017 2:54:35 PM     (No. 11290539)

#23 speaks for herself...I disagree...

I believe the truth will prevail....no military "secrets" here...just a big mistake in the dark of night, and my trust in our media is ZERO, my trust in the "navy" isn´t much better....but the truth ALWAYS emerges.

God bless those injured and maybe deceased...
They gave their lives to our military to defend us...that´s honorable.

Veterans for TRUMP 2020
Improve our Military!!!

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Reply 26 - Posted by: birddog, 6/18/2017 3:17:58 PM     (No. 11290550)

While the Commander was in his position little more than a month...he had been XO for several years prior. My mind boggles as to how this was even remotely possible to have occurred, even if the pollywog lookout was searching for the Mailbouy, the radarman should have been tracking surface contacts and whoever had the conn should have stayed well clear.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 6/18/2017 3:31:05 PM     (No. 11290557)

That container ship was on a straight and narrow course for a long period of time then abruptly changed course, as if in search of prey. These are congested waters, and the destroyer´s surface scanning radar would have alerted the crew to a "kamikaze attack" from miles out, however, it was either not heeded, or heard.

Did the container ship "blind" the Navy ship to its presence? Why did it change course so many times before it "found" the destroyer? As someone said on a previous thread, these cargo ships have crews who merely watch the computer as the ship is guided automatically along a preprogrammed course.

Who made the radical course change? Was the container ship´s computer "hacked"? Commercial maritime vessels are connected to the Internet by satellite communication. Did China or Iran hack the ship´s computer, thereby turning it into a guided missile? If so, this could be as big a threat to maritime traffic as 9-11 was to aviation.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: Stryker714, 6/18/2017 7:26:57 PM     (No. 11290671)

Meet Joseph Jeffrey Hazelwood, captain of the Exxon Valdez.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: ctpro, 6/18/2017 8:27:17 PM     (No. 11290692)

It´s pieces like this that give alternative media a bad name. Everything is a conspiracy with too many of these sites. We saw the same thing when those sailors were detained by the Iranians over year ago... as expected it was a series of rookie mistakes by the young US Navy sailors. Human error on the part of US Navy sailors will have been a big factor in this incident as well (ships to starboard are to be given right of way). As for the transponder being turned off, you can go online to any of the half-dozen ship tracking data bases and see the track of the merchant vessel that hit the Navy ship... so she definitely had her AIS on.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: ida lou pino, 6/18/2017 10:15:35 PM     (No. 11290749)

"A Fish Called Wanda"

Remember the scene where Michael Palin runs over Kevin Kline while Palin is driving a steamroller at one mph?

Kline saw it coming for 10 minutes - - yet by the time he decided to move - - his feet were caught in drying cement.

So how does a container ship - - which rips through the sea at one mph - - manage to ram a destroyer designed to be nimble?

"A Fish Called Fishy"?

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Reply 31 - Posted by: lifelonghuman, 6/18/2017 10:29:44 PM     (No. 11290756)

Gibbs will get to the bottom of this!

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Reply 32 - Posted by: rbruce20, 6/18/2017 11:50:04 PM     (No. 11290789)

USCGA grad with about 3yrs sea time and many years of sailing. No captain I know would be asleep with a ship approaching within 1000 yrs (1/2mile). Officer-of-the-Deck´s standing orders normally require contacting the CO when a ship may come near. I´ve awaken the CO many times over a four hour watch. A Navy cruiser with gas turbines has much more mobility than a large merchant ship.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: rbruce20, 6/19/2017 12:01:03 AM     (No. 11290799)

Average turning diameter for a 213m merchant ship travelling around 10 kts is 1/2 mile. There are a lot of variable to consider. So when a merchant ship starts a 180 turn, it travels 1/4 mile forward and 1/4 mile to the side to turn 90degs. Any sailor knows abrupt turns on merchant ships do not happen without tug assist.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: thelmalou, 6/19/2017 1:14:54 AM     (No. 11290817)

Y´all are awesome! Miss Right-Brained Girl here is enjoying this discussion immensely!

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Reply 35 - Posted by: strike3, 6/19/2017 2:34:28 AM     (No. 11290836)

Most Navy ship´s captains are very good officers, but remember this one?

"The Navy recently demoted Capt. Holly Graf, captain of the USS Cowpens, following a Navy inspector generals report found she used her ship to race the USS John S. McCain destroyer off the coast of Okinawa in February 2009."

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“If they want civil war in this country, they will probably end up getting it,” Tweeted actor and conservative James Woods, last week. The “they” are an array of Democrats and leftists. Woods posted his Tweet just hours after James T. Hodgkinson, a Bernie Sanders’ groupie-turned-gunman, opened fire on Republican Congressman Steve Scalise and others at an Alexandria, Virginia ball field. (snip)ivil war in modern America could be more along the lines of “Bleeding Kansas” -- times 50. Bleeding Kansas was a precursor to the greater national civil war. The Kansas-Nebraska Act had overturned the Compromise of 1850. Henceforth, popular sovereignty

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Former National Security Adviser
Susan Rice Says She’s a Victim
of Racism and Sexism

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Heat Street, by Emily Zanotti    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 6/27/2017 3:17:23 PM     Post Reply
Former national security adviser and UN ambassador Susan Rice refuses to go quietly into retirement, even though she remains one of the most controversial figures of the Obama Administration. Now, thanks to a glowing profile in New York Magazine, we know that despite Susan Rice’s very public shortcomings (whatever happened to that dastardly filmmaker who spurred violence across the Middle East, anyway?), she believes any criticism of her tenure is at least partly the result of racism and sexism. When asked why she became a “target” in the Trump Administration, she replied, “I’ve spent a lot of time thinking about

Chaffetz calls for $2,500
legislator housing stipend

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The Hill [Washington, DC], by Scott Wong    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 6/27/2017 2:37:33 PM     Post Reply
Just days before he resigns from Congress, Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) said Monday that House and Senate lawmakers should receive a $2,500 per month housing allowance — something he explained would help ease housing costs for members who can’t afford two mortgages or rents. “I really do believe Congress would be much better served if there was a housing allowance for members of Congress,” Chaffetz told The Hill in an interview in his Capitol office, where he sleeps whenever he’s in Washington. “In today’s climate, nobody’s going to suggest or vote for a pay raise. But you shouldn’t have to be

Rob Reiner Calls for ‘All Out
War’ to Resist Trump

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Breitbart Big Hollywood, by Jerome Hudson    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 6/26/2017 6:13:57 PM     Post Reply
Actor and filmmaker Rob Reiner was shredded by social media users over the weekend after he called for an “all out war” to resist President Donald Trump. Writing on Twitter Sunday, the All in the Family star mentioned a Fox News report about the Trump campaign’s alleged collusion with Russia during the 2016 election. “When Fox says that DT colluding with the enemy is not a crime, the fight to save Democracy is now an all out war. US-Stay strong. #Treason,” he wrote. (Tweet) Reiner’s remarks were slammed by several social media users, many of them suggesting that the actor’s tweet

Kasich: Neither party ‘cares
about helping poor people’

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Washington Times, by Jessica Chasmar    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 6/27/2017 9:19:07 AM     Post Reply
Ohio Gov. John Kasich came out against the Senate Republican health care bill Sunday, saying both Republicans and Democrats need to do a better job at helping poor people. “Both parties ought to be worried about poor people, because I don’t think either party particularly cares about helping poor people,” Mr. Kasich, who lost the Republican Party’s presidential nomination to President Trump last year, told CNN’s Dana Bash. “You look at the rates of poverty, the problems in this country,” he continued. “We have not designed a system to get people work. Everything we’re talking about now — getting people

Paper ballots are hack-proof.
It´s time to bring them back.

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USA Today, by Glenn Harlan Reynolds    Original Article
Posted By: MissMolly- 6/26/2017 4:20:14 AM     Post Reply
I’ve been talking about the importance of protecting against voting-machine hacks since 2002. And now, finally, people are starting to take me seriously. The move to paperless voting started in response to the Florida “hanging chad” fiasco in the 2000 presidential election. Some people (like me) thought this was a mistake, but such concerns were often dismissed. Now, apparently, you can’t be paranoid enough. As Politico’s Bob King noted, while 10 years ago critics of paperless voting were called paranoid, now both parties are worried. It remains true that there is no actual evidence that a single vote was changed by hackers

Barack Obama Goes River Rafting with
His Family in Bali During Vacation to
His Childhood Home of Indonesia

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People, by Tierney McAfee    Original Article
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The Obama adventures continue! Barack Obama and his family went rafting on the Ayung River in Bali on Monday amid their nine-day vacation to Indonesia, where the former president lived for several years as a child. Obama, wife Michelle and their daughters, Sasha and Malia, were invited to vacation in Indonesia by President Joko “Jokowi” Widodo, who also asked the family to visit the presidential Bogor Palace in West Java during their trip, according to ABC News. Obama will also speak at an Indonesian Diaspora Congress in Jakarta on July 1. Obama moved to Indonesia in 1967 at age 6

USS Fitzgerald completely ignored Japanese
cargo ship before deadly collision as crew
attempted to get the Americans´ attention
by flashing lights and sounding horns

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Reuters, by Staff    Original Article
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A U.S. warship struck by a container vessel in Japanese waters failed to respond to warning signals or take evasive action before a collision that killed seven of its crew, according to a report of the incident by the Philippine cargo ship´s captain. Multiple U.S. and Japanese investigations are under way into how the guided missile destroyer USS Fitzgerald and the much larger ACX Crystal container ship collided in clear weather south of Tokyo Bay in the early hours of June 17. In the first detailed account from one of those directly involved, the cargo ship´s captain said the ACX Crystal had

Shaun King Slams Christians
Over Immigration Ban, Calls
For Ban on White Men

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Daily Caller, by Amber Athey    Original Article
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The New York Daily News’ senior justice writer Shaun King blasted Christians Monday for perpetrating white supremacy for their support of President Donald Trump’s immigration halt. King put out a series of tweets accusing Christians who supported the halt of “fake faith” after the Supreme Court allowed Trump’s immigration ban to go into effect. (Snip) “To support a ban on immigrants & refugees, while calling yourself a Christian, is not faith, it’s white supremacy disguised as religion,” King tweeted.

Police hunt couple caught on video brutally
beating a restaurant owner and punching
her 15-year-old daughter in the face because
they were unhappy with their Order

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Daily Mail [UK], by Kiri Blakeley    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 6/26/2017 10:39:03 AM     Post Reply
Police are on the hunt for a couple who were caught on video camera beating a restaurant owner and her 15-year-old daughter because they weren´t happy with their meals. The incident happened at the Qwik Chick takeout stand next to U.S. Highway 1 in Baxley, Georgia just after 3pm on Thursday, reported WTOC. The couple, identified as Nathaniel Eric Smith and Latasha M. Smith, got into an altercation with the food store´s owner, Jeanette Norris, because they said their chicken was cold and they didn´t have enough fries. Norris refunded their money but she said they went ´berserk´ anyway and

Supreme Court revives Trump travel ban
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Washington Times, by Stephen Dinan    Original Article
Posted By: LittleHoodedMonk- 6/26/2017 10:41:05 AM     Post Reply
The Supreme Court said Monday that most of President Trump’s travel ban executive order can go into effect, delivering the first major victory to the new administration on perhaps his most controversial policy to date. Justices said the lower court rulings that blocked Mr. Trump’s policy were far too broad, and said the president can begin to enforce his ban against foreigners who don’t already have some ties to the U.S. That means the president can begin denying visas to visitors from six countries — Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen — who don’t already have family in the U.S., or some other prior connection such as

Buffett’s Vice Chair – Al Gore Is ‘An
Idiot’ Who Just Got Lucky Obsessing
About ‘Climate Change’

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Breitbart Big Government, by James Delingpole    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 6/27/2017 12:38:34 AM     Post Reply
Al Gore is ‘an idiot’ who only made his vast fortune just because he happened to get lucky by obsessing about climate change. Possibly we’d all guessed this already. Now it has been confirmed by an expert in the field of finance – Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway vice chairman and fellow investment billionaire Charlie Munger. Munger, who was speaking at an informal investors’ Q & A – recorded here – clearly does not rate Gore’s intelligence or investment acumen. “Al Gore has come into you fellas business, Munger said. “He has made $3 or $400 million in your business. And

Unlike Any Other: Clinton Maintains
High Unfavorability Post-Election

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Daily Caller, by Alissa Stechschulte    Original Article
Posted By: MissMolly- 6/27/2017 5:14:56 AM     Post Reply
Losing presidential candidates over the past quarter century have tended to become more popular in the months following the election. But former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has broken that trend, according to Gallup. The latest Gallup poll reveals that a majority of Americans, 57 percent, continue to view Secretary Clinton unfavorably. There has been no change in this percentage since January 2017. Clinton’s favorable rating hit an all-time low, 38 percent, early September last year. The highest it has ever been was 67 percent, which was in 1998 when she was first lady. In 2011 and 2012, during her time serving as

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