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Captain of stricken $1.5bn US Navy
destroyer is airlifted to hospital
as up to SEVEN sailors are missing
or feared dead after it collided
with 29,000 ton cargo ship off Japan


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Posted By:earlybird, 6/17/2017 9:54:53 AM

The captain of the stricken USS Fitzgerald was among those injured during the collision of the warship with a 29,000 ton cargo vessel on Friday as the US Navy said that up to seven missing sailors could be trapped in the mangled wreck. (Snip)The guided missile destroyer USS Fitzgerald suffered severe damage when the container ship ACX Crystal – which is four times the size of the naval vessel – plowed into it at 2.30am local time. Aerial footage shows the crushed exterior of the 9,000 ton $1.5billion destroyer which is commanded by Commander Bryce Benson, who took over in

“It” (our ship) did not collide with anything. All of the headlines on US Navy ship colliding with the cargo ship.

When you get into the article, and the photo captions, this is the first I’ve seen that says the cargo ship “plowed into” our Navy ship.


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Reply 1 - Posted by: PageTurner, 6/17/2017 9:56:33 AM     (No. 11289404)

Filipino driver, that was all I could think when I heard ghis.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: southernboy, 6/17/2017 9:57:50 AM     (No. 11289409)

The impact was on the side of the destroyer! Yes, the container ship hit the destroyer.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: southernboy, 6/17/2017 10:07:04 AM     (No. 11289418)

FTA: “... The 29,000 ton ACX Crystal is much larger than the 9,000 ton USS Fitzgerald. The cargo ship appears to have hit the destroyer head on…”

Nonsense! It was a sideswipe. Port side bow of the container ship. Starboard side of the destroyer with damage bent toward the stern. The destroyer was passing the freighter on the freighters port side when the impact occurred. Whose fault to be determined. The Captains career is finished, no matter what!

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Safari Man, 6/17/2017 10:07:50 AM     (No. 11289420)

Its interesting that the damage is on the starboard side of the Navy ship and port side of the cargo ship. Looks like the cargo ship was overtaking the Navy ship on the right side and struck a glancing blow. I wonder which boat had the right of way? I should think its the smaller boat´s responsibility to steer out of the path of the larger ship since the smaller boat is more maneuverable.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: ida lou pino, 6/17/2017 10:32:00 AM     (No. 11289448)

The captain was a student of Francesco Schettino - - the captain of the Costa Concordia.

He learned his lessons well.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Urgent Fury, 6/17/2017 10:43:45 AM     (No. 11289460)

Some of those cargo ships have automated guidance. They are crewed, but a computer is doing the driving. That said, something is fishy here.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: contrarian, 6/17/2017 10:52:10 AM     (No. 11289468)

does the USN no longer post a watch?
this is inexcusable dereliction of duty.
watch officers are in heap big trouble..
you always assume the other ship is not paying attention.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: miceal, 6/17/2017 10:59:05 AM     (No. 11289472)

The words "allahu akbar" mentioned at any time?

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Reply 9 - Posted by: volksford, 6/17/2017 11:08:41 AM     (No. 11289479)

The course of the container ship is very strange.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Gordon Mills, 6/17/2017 11:25:23 AM     (No. 11289484)

The Commanding Officer assumed command in May 2017. Even tho´ he is responsible he can´t be awake 24 hr/day and crew incompetence goes back to previous Commanders.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Heraclitus, 6/17/2017 11:34:36 AM     (No. 11289493)

When i saw the photos early this morning the first thing i wondered was how could they "collide" if the Fitzgerald was hit on the side (i reveal my lack of naval terminology)?

Secondly, this advanced destroyer must have 360 degree and 100% radar coverage, why wouldn´t there have been awareness of that huge cargo ship´s approach?

If it was a "sideswipe" as #3 puts it, then perhaps the naval vessel was attempting a rapid manoeuvre to avoid the contact, which was too late?

Seems too deliberate by the cargo ship.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Crashnburn, 6/17/2017 11:43:05 AM     (No. 11289498)

Looks to me like the cargo ship attempted to ram the destroyer. The cargo ship´s damage is to the port side of the bow. The destroyer´s damage is mid-ship on the starboard side. I don´t know how much reaction time there is in close quarters, and the destroyer, while relatively small, is no jet ski!

The cargo ship´s course track shows it turning many times, like it is trying to line up to T-Bone the destroyer. If the cargo ship is under computer control, it´s computer needs to be quarantined, and a forensic analysis done on it.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: JediJerry, 6/17/2017 11:53:55 AM     (No. 11289504)

Was no one in command on the bridge of either ship? Who was monitoring radar on both ships? Were they all asleep? No lookouts on watch duty? What the heck was going on out there? I mean this seems beyond belief. I want to see a Navy inquiry into this maritime disaster. Commander Benson has some ´splainin to do as well as the Captain of the ACX Crystal. My heart and prayers go out to the missing sailors.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Mackrand, 6/17/2017 11:58:08 AM     (No. 11289508)

The cargo vessel was clearly manuevering in the middle of the night. Had reversed course twice shortly before the collision. From the pictures published it can be inferred that the cargo vessel was turning to starboard to get back on course to Tokyo/Yokohama. Manuevering in a shipping lane may have set off the chain of events leading to this event.

To be sure, something unusual was going on for the Captain to be physically involved in the collision. I´m wondering where the Captains Quarters are on this DDG? Was he knocked out of bed or scrambling to get to the Bridge? Many questions here.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Fledrmaus, 6/17/2017 12:05:59 PM     (No. 11289519)

How well-lit is a cargo ship like this? It was the middle of the night, and radar clearly would have shown that it was present. I think there might have been some unprofessionalism on the destroyer, with whoever was in charge impatient and not wanting to wait for the big lumbering freighter to pass. Thinking his ship was faster and more maneuverable, he tried to dash past its bow, and maybe didn´t realize how close it was and miscalculated.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: joew9, 6/17/2017 1:03:27 PM     (No. 11289570)

The path of the cargo ship is suspicious but perhaps can be explained. It´s looks as if they turned around to go back to the US ship.

The hit was right at the tower. Where people are. Not the front or the back.

There are plenty of crazies in Japan that want the US out of their country - of course they are not comprehending that this would leave them open to attack from NK not to mention that China has also been quite aggressive.

The ship was apparently flagged for Japan. It doesn´t mean Japanese were at the helm.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Packard Man, 6/17/2017 1:16:57 PM     (No. 11289580)

I can´t imagine that there isn´t some kind of
proximity alarm associated with the radar on such an advanced high tech Destroyer. No Watch Commander supervising? Was everybody who was supposed to be on the bridge on both ships in the head or getting a ´cuppa´? Can any ex-Navy enlighten as to SOP?

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Chuzzles, 6/17/2017 1:25:00 PM     (No. 11289585)

With all the billions in taxpayer funds we pour into these ships, why on earth are we having problems with these collisions?

For this kind of money, that naval vessel should have had plenty of warning that cargo vessel was coming.

The island of Mindanao is one of the Islamic hotbeds of that part of the world. So to me, there is no excuse for any of our naval vessels getting themselves into this kind of fix.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: coldoc, 6/17/2017 1:53:25 PM     (No. 11289614)

Unless this captain´s daddy is an admiral (johnny mac?) his career will consist of "would you like fries with that?"

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Pearson365, 6/17/2017 3:25:37 PM     (No. 11289675)

Navy´s Board of Inquiry will take almost as long as the Army´s court marshal of Private Bergdahl. Many, many months from now we´ll probably learn that a very junior officer was on the bridge of the Fitzgerald and an equally inexperienced sailor was having coffee rather than watching the radar screens for other ships. But well before inquiry results are released, we´ll learn that it will cost $900 million and 2.5 years to repair the destroyer. Since this Aegis class ship will be 25 years old when repairs are complete, the Navy will then quietly decommission the Fitzgerald to make way for the newest class of destroyers. It´s only money.

On a far more important note, may the 7 missing seamen be found alive. They and their families need our prayers.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: watashiyo, 6/17/2017 4:45:11 PM     (No. 11289726)

1.5 billion dollar state-of-the-art battleship, sideswiped by slow moving container ship? Our enemies must be analyzing and researching this incident.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 6/17/2017 5:02:13 PM     (No. 11289742)

Was the surface scan radar "spoofed," making the container ship invisible?
Was this part of an enemy attempt to weaponize otherwise innocent ships of the sea?

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Reply 23 - Posted by: WI Cynic, 6/17/2017 5:23:31 PM     (No. 11289751)

The full inquiry may take many months, but the Commanding Officer at least will be relieved within a week.

For those pointing out that the container ship struck the destroyer, yes - that´s how it appears. But who had the right-of-way? Given just the photo evidence, the container ship was clearly the stand-on vessel, and the destroyer was the give-way vessel. There is no way that the container ship could have come that close undetected. This was human error on the part of the decision makers on the destroyer. Simply put, many people simultaneously failed to do their jobs.

My prediction, based on how these have played out in the past: The Commanding Officer will be relieved as a matter of course. The Executive Officer, being in charge of training and the day-to-day operation of the ship, will go, too. The Navigation Officer is probably safe, as this was a collision rather than a grounding. The Officer of the Deck will certainly go. The Junior Officer of the Deck will go if he/she were conning the ship at the time. The Tactical Action Officer will go for not raising all hell well before the ships were in extremis, and the CIC watch officer could go for the same reason.

The Master Chief Petty Officer of the Command might go if the inquiry decides the ship has an environment of poor training, poor watchstanding, or general negligence within the enlisted personnel - but he/she might be safe if all the bad decisions are limited to officers.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: earlybird, 6/17/2017 5:42:18 PM     (No. 11289771)

Owned by a Japanese company, contracted out to another, it flies the Philippine flag and its home port is Manila.



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Hillary Clinton cited a study showing young people who read the Harry Potter series are "more compassionate" toward immigrants and LGBT community members during her speech Tuesday in Chicago. Clinton made the reference while delivering a speech at the American Library Association´s annual conference, as fans of the popular book series celebrated the 20th anniversary of the first novel´s release. "Years of data suggest that reading fiction builds empathy," she said. "It helps us put ourselves in others´ shoes. One study even found that young people who read the Harry Potter books, which first came out 20 years ago this week, were

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