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Gov. Perry Asks Obama To Do One Thing
About the Border Crisis, Which Would Help,
But Which Obama Is Certain Not To Do

PJ Media, by Bryan Preston

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Posted By:StormCnter, 7/10/2014 4:29:29 AM

After meeting with President Obama on the border crisis in Dallas today, Texas Gov. Rick Perry issued the following statement. In it, he lists several measures that the president should take to secure the border. Here is the governor’s full statement. DALLAS – Gov. Rick Perry today met with President Barack Obama to discuss the ongoing humanitarian and national security crises occurring along the Texas-Mexico border. In the meeting, Gov. Perry urged the president to undertake the necessary steps to secure the border and ease the crises. “Five hundred miles south of here in the Rio Grande Valley there is a humanitarian

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: harleynyc, 7/10/2014 6:54:28 AM     (No. 9917932)

Obama continues to make destroying the United States look easy.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: M2, 7/10/2014 6:56:08 AM     (No. 9917936)

Instead of acknowledging that his own policies have played any role in the crisis, he instead blamed Republicans and demanded that they do exactly what he says, or he will take no action on his own to fix the problem. Some people might see that as extortion.

Everyone sees it as extortion. Only Democrats refuse to call it that, but everyone knows what it is, following a well-established pattern of juvenility.

Everyone also knows that our POTUS is a ideological pugilist whose first recourse is revenge and adolescent temper tantrums. How did such a spiritually acned teenager come to run this great country? All he does is hang out with his photo-op buds and slam doors.

God does have His reasons, but I´m not that sure I want to live long enough to learn what they are, considering that ordinary Americans are helpless right now.

Things can change, though, when men and women of honor and courage decide "enough".

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Reply 3 - Posted by: bubby, 7/10/2014 7:29:17 AM     (No. 9917970)

FTA "talk of “comprehensive immigration reform” always causes a spike in illegal crossings; because of how the 2008 William Wilberforce Act is being implemented; and because of President Obama’s Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals....DACA is his policy, created via executive order. He could rescind it any time he wants. He won’t."

The southern border is what the Cloward Piven Strategy looks like in practice. I live in Texas and we are being invaded by illegal aliens with all kinds of communicable diseases and they are being sent all over the country. How I despise obama, the Democrats and the msm for this purposeful destruction of the country.



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Reply 4 - Posted by: MDConservative, 7/10/2014 7:45:05 AM     (No. 9917988)

Poor Rick Perry...he´s the governor of a major state, a likely presidential candidate, and his response to the "crisis" on his border is a whiny press release and a hand out for Federal money to pay law enforcement overtime. He was suckered at the meeting he demanded with Obama, getting nothing but a horselaugh. And Obama is incompetent? Let Perry be Perry...he ain´t no Reagan.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Judith, 7/10/2014 7:57:42 AM     (No. 9918005)

This entire past week has been a lead up of reports that perry invited obama to tour the border with the governor or there would be no meeting. Now there was a meeting with the beggar governor and king obama.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: StormCnter, 7/10/2014 8:03:53 AM     (No. 9918010)

#5, you are mistaken. Governor Perry invited Obama to tour the border. Also, Perry refused to meet Obama´s plane in Austin for a tarmac handshake. Perry said he wanted a meeting, not just a handshake. An agreement was reached for Perry to greet the president elsewhere and to be granted a meeting.

#4 goes from Perry thread to Perry thread saying the same things. We get it, #4. You don´t like anything about Rick Perry. Your privilege, of course.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Attercliffe, 7/10/2014 8:20:19 AM     (No. 9918040)

#6 is correct and I too must disagree with sour perceptions of Perry. This meeting (as opposed to a tarmac photo op) had to take place to reveal harder evidence of Obama´s truculence in this entire issue. Even LoFos and NoFos are becoming perturbed about the southern border being washed away by an admitted tsunami of illegals (with highly contagious and serious diseases); the more the situation is brought to their attention, the more they will turn away from Obama. But they can´t do that unless someone like Perry forces it into the news, time after time.

In this particular news piece, we discover that Obama "blamed Republicans [for the border problem] and demanded that they do exactly what he says, or he will take no action on his own to fix the problem."

Even NoFos can see that threat for what it is: Obama won´t do anything about the problem unless he gets the $3.7 billion he demands for extra judges, etc. Why are judges needed? Does it really take a law degree to figure out whether a person is in the country illegally and must be deported? (Like the gang members who freely admit to torture and killings.)

I salute Perry for keeping his cool and eliciting Obama´s threat--which basically says "Do what I tell you or I´m taking my ball and going home. So there" (emphasized by a foot stamp).

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Reply 8 - Posted by: ilovedogs, 7/10/2014 8:20:31 AM     (No. 9918042)

I´m curious can a governor call out his own troops for on a border or is the US border only for federal troops?

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Reply 9 - Posted by: congar, 7/10/2014 8:25:44 AM     (No. 9918050)

Perry would have been more effective requesting the border improvements from a tree stump. They listen better.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: steveW, 7/10/2014 8:52:52 AM     (No. 9918083)

Illegally deleted (aka "lost") IRS documents - almost certainly implicating a complicit Lightbringer - in a criminal cover-up dwarfing the worst of Watergate:

Look over there at the border - squirrel!



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Reply 11 - Posted by: Namma, 7/10/2014 9:21:09 AM     (No. 9918129)

obamais doing this so he can blame the Republicans for not giving him money to control the border...he doesn´t need the money..all obama has to do is tell the border patrol to close the border. he could also bus the people back to the country they came from. i.e. President Dwight Eisenhower..1954 Operation Wetback..sorry folks that´s what it was called. thousands of illgals came over the border..Ike then had them bused back to Mexico. It can be done, and the president has the authority to do so. obama wont, and he is the one at fault. NOT the Republicans its all about politics.
another side note. these illegals are not coming over the border for jobs..they are here to live off the taxpayer. They don´t wrk in their own country..they sure are not going to work here.. and obama has made it very nice for people that don´t work.to live off the taxpayers

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Reply 12 - Posted by: zbogwan2, 7/10/2014 9:21:22 AM     (No. 9918130)

Obama is going to have a lot to answer for at Judgment Day, no matter who his God is? That´ll be the day he won´t be able to blame Bush and the Republicans for his actions/inactions? It´ll be just him and God and no Teleprompter?

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Reply 13 - Posted by: starboard, 7/10/2014 9:28:02 AM     (No. 9918143)

Governor Perry made Obama look small and creepy.

Leadership is not something you can teach. You either have it or you don´t. Governor Perry is a natural leader.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: nekochan, 7/10/2014 9:33:04 AM     (No. 9918148)

To poster 2: I agree with you, but what can we do now when it´s very likely too late for things that are legal?

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Rinktum, 7/10/2014 9:37:02 AM     (No. 9918153)

Frankly, it is time that the governors of these states DEMAND that these facilities be open for inspection. Gov. Perry should put the Texas National Guard on the border. Let Obama arrest him. The only way to stop Obama is to flaunt his edicts. Until Americans decide that enough is enough this lawless behavior will continue. Unfortunately, we can´t look to the Republicans in Washington DC to support defying the President. It is going to take a few regular Americans to stand up and say, no more.

Where are the patriots working in these centers? Some of these workers need to be whistleblowers. A few pictures of the actual mess that is unfolding would open a few eyes. Surely, they don´t agree with what is going on. Some of them need to break the blackout imposed by this imperial president. The American people deserve to know exactly what their boy king is bringing into their neighborhoods.

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke

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Reply 16 - Posted by: texsupreme, 7/10/2014 10:03:07 AM     (No. 9918198)

Re. the above comments about Gov Perry. I am definitely not anti-Perry, but My opinion is that Perry was rolled by zero. The meeting was totally on zero´s terms. What difference does it make whether the handshake was at Austin or Dallas. The optics were the same. Perry waiting dutifully at the bottom of the ramp while the king struts down and slaps him on tha back.

Videos of the group meeting at Love field showed Perry sitting sullenly at the far corner of the table while zero was yukking it up with the Dallas mayor.

Just my observations.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: oh-heck, 7/10/2014 10:10:52 AM     (No. 9918205)

The message that was sent to the low info voters was that Perry was refusing to shake President Obama´s hand. In fact, one comment I overheard was, Is he afraid the black will rub off? I´m married to a Dem low info voter and am regularly astounded by how stupid the elites think they are. Evidently the programming is strong.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: StormCnter, 7/10/2014 10:16:54 AM     (No. 9918213)

What would you have had Perry do, #16? I guess he could have taken an icepick to Air Force 1´s tires or spit on Obama´s shoes.

Rick Perry is the governor of Texas behaving civilly and as courteously as the office of the presidency deserves under awkward circumstances. I believe Perry got the most facetime possible against Obama´s sullen refusal to substantially divert from his frantic fund-raising activities in Austin and Dallas. The "roundtable" meeting wasn´t part of Obama´s original schedule.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: rochow, 7/10/2014 10:18:22 AM     (No. 9918218)

Perry, understand one thing, the First amateur clown looks you in the eye, turns around and does the opposite of what he just told you. Read Ron Kessler´s book about First Families. But this one takes the cake. I believe he is also full of drugs and has the attention span of an amoebae. The former community organizer is a very stupid man you would not hire to polish your shoes, he would be too dumb to find the shoes. We are lurching from one crisis to another. Some, like the border crisis, created to tear our attention away from the last scandal. I say have this barf bag resign. Well, we know there is no Santa!

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Reply 20 - Posted by: starboard, 7/10/2014 10:43:11 AM     (No. 9918249)

Perry didn´t vote present. He showed up and acted with concern and humility. Something nonexistent in Obama.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: steveW, 7/10/2014 11:10:56 AM     (No. 9918286)

You´re flooding the country with overwhelming waves of future Democrat voters in blatant, impeachable defiance of the law, and the GOP won´t even slap your wrist for doing it. Hell, I´d celebrate with a game of pool, too!

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Felixcat, 7/10/2014 11:36:35 AM     (No. 9918332)

Does anyone remember when Gov Brewer met Obama on the tarmac a year or so ago and all you saw was she in his face pointing her finger? All the MSM could talk about was how she was so disrespectful to Obama, etc. NO matter how valid her argumanets, she lost to the optics of some governor disrespecting Prez. Obama.

Let´s face it - Obama, for all his spritually acned teenager temper tantrums, has the ultimate in optics with Air Force 1, the Seal of the POTUS, the young Marines in dress blues, etc. to overwhelm anyone to his advantage.

Bottom line - our country is being overrun and we´re arguing optics.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Edgelady, 7/10/2014 11:40:16 AM     (No. 9918338)

Obama´s narcissism won´t let him ever admit he did something wrong or stupid. And Reid has his own little man syndrome going as well. So the country is being held hostage by two men who are more interested in their own egos than any living person on earth - including small children on the border.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: JoniTx, 7/10/2014 11:50:04 AM     (No. 9918355)

I posted this 15-minute video of Gov. Perry, with Sean Hannity very early this morn. Take a look at what he actually had to say about his meeting with zero:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/07/10/texas-gov-perry-illegal-immigrant-surge-humanitarian-crisis-obama-has-power-to/

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Reply 25 - Posted by: FL_Absentee_Voter, 7/10/2014 11:54:17 AM     (No. 9918363)

Re #8´s question: I believe that the courts have ruled that border protection is federal jurisdiction. Perry can mobilize the Texas NG to handle matters within the state but not to patrol the border. Sounds crazy, I know.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Bighambone, 7/10/2014 12:12:03 PM     (No. 9918389)

Under longstanding US immigration law every illegal alien in the USA, even those caught right after they jump over the border fence has the right to a deportation hearing. When the border patrol catches a non criminal illegal alien they must explain that right to the apprehended alien, along with advising the alien that he or she can waive the right to a deportation hearing and voluntarily return to their home country. That is basic.

Obama and the liberal Democrats are claiming that the William Wilberforce anti trafficking law, a liberal Democrat designed amendment to the immigration law that was meant to detour forced sex trafficking that was passed back during the G.W. Bush era now covers all the tens of thousands of young illegal aliens coming in across the borderline and that law requires that every one of them be accorded a formal deportation hearing, and that each of them must have a government appointed immigration lawyer at the hearing. If that is the case, and that continues, none of those young illegal aliens will ever be deported, since the initial hearing, because of the numbers involved, will not be held for years, and to go through the complicated immigration court process along with later appeals processes have been liberalized beyond belief could take a decade, and ultimately always favor the illegal alien, who has been paying his or her immigration lawyer all that time, staying in the USA in the end.

The immigration laws and the highly esoteric immigration court system set up to favor immigration lawyers and illegal aliens needs to be scrapped, and a new very simple process put in place to the affect that once it is established that the alien respondent is an illegal alien that he or she is quickly deported.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Butch59, 7/10/2014 12:32:54 PM     (No. 9918426)

Doesn´t this qualify as a foreign invasion? It certainly does to me. Just who invited these people to come to this country? The only one that did is Obozo. As such, he has to be held as responsible for any and all of their actions and diseases they spread around and anything else they do. And there is no way that under current law that they can become citizens or be eligible to vote for anyone. To allow any of that to happen has to be a violation of current law. Why can´t the lo-fo´s and the rest of the country see that? We here at LCom do.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: strike3, 7/10/2014 1:11:56 PM     (No. 9918483)

There was presidential material at that meeting and it sure as sugar was not obama. What other governors besides Jan Brewer and Nikki Haley have dared to stand up to this snake? Perry did as much as we could ask of anyone when dealing with the devil short of smacking him.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: Attercliffe, 7/10/2014 1:43:44 PM     (No. 9918527)

Harsh critics of Perry must understand that in this particular situation nobody, not Perry, nobody, can effectively jump right in and do something heroic right now, this minute about what´s happening at the border in his state and in border states governed by others.

What he has to do is inform and educate the country, as he did in his remarks today, about the fact that Obama could do something practical but won´t. Yes, WE knew that beyond a shadow of a doubt--but not everybody in the country did.

Now Perry can take some action and will be roundly criticized by the opposition. So? So he will now have the ability to say, "Look, I tried to convince Obama that we are in dire straits here in Texas and across the country but all he says is ´gimme the money I want or I´ll just turn my back and ignore you.´ " And right there he will have the grounds to do something himself.

You all know that those involved in law enforcement in Texas will send one or two or six or more officers to control the border. Other border states should follow suit. If they don´t, let THEM provide the $3.7 billion that the rest of us who help support this country paid into the treasury--the majority of whom have numerous generations of antecedents who also paid their way with money and lives.

Who else is out there, face to face with Obama, trying to solve or at least ameliorate the problem? Perry and Texas need support, not criticism.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: oldmagnolia, 7/10/2014 4:07:25 PM     (No. 9918710)

Perry should have refused to meet with this traitor and, instead, send the Texas rangers and the National Guard to the border with orders to shoot to kill. Let´s see what happens then. Ah, and tell the msm to pound sand.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: chicodon, 7/10/2014 4:29:19 PM     (No. 9918734)

It´s time drug test this choomer. It´s told he laughed and giggled throughout the meeting.

We are now being ruled by angry people with huge chips on their shoulders. Jarrett, Obama, Holder and Jeh Johnson. That they all are black is significant. They are Buraq´s inner circle and are working in unison to facilitate this invasion.



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Reply 32 - Posted by: lil dotty, 7/10/2014 7:10:41 PM     (No. 9918965)

#27, we L-dotters are smarter than the average bear, especially the low lying ones.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Dodge Boy, 7/10/2014 8:53:16 PM     (No. 9919075)

Since Bill Gates, Warren Buffett and Sheldon Adelson are on their stumps now pushing for amnesty, why not have them get with Gov. Perry to also ask Obie what it will take to get the Mexican illegals to stay home...in Mexico. These three guys appear to have some smarts so why can´t they take their billions to Mexico and develop schools and industry and a real economny down there so folks can get jobs and livelihoods...in Mexico.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: lana720, 7/10/2014 10:22:17 PM     (No. 9919180)

The WH simply does not care!
Why else would they have allowed those pictures of zippy laughing while Perry´s team was sober-faced? He looked high.

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In her just-released memoir, 27 year-old "Girls" star Lena Dunham claims that as a 19 year-old Oberlin College student in Ohio, she was raped by a college Republican. In the first chapter that addresses the encounter, Dunham describes the "ill-fated evening of lovemaking" as awkward and hollow. The most sensational moment comes from the fact that "Barry" wasn´t wearing a condom. In the next chapter, Dunham backtracks with the claim that she´s an "unreliable narrator" and accuses "Barry" of rape: [I]n another essay in this book I describe a sexual encounter with a mustachioed campus Republican as the upsetting but

EXCLUSIVE: Ousted Secret Service chief
was ´sandbagged´ by ´p***ed off agents
who had had enough´ of her and thought*

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Daily Mail [UK], by David Martosko    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 10/2/2014 9:11:57 PM     Post Reply
A recently retired Secret Service agent told MailOnline on Thursday that former director Julia Pierson´s resignation will be welcomed by the agency´s rank-and-file because ´people in the service thought she was a joke from Day One.´ He attributed her swift fall from grace to a cadre of ´p***ed off agents who had had enough´ of feeling disrespected by the service´s first female director. ´Putting her in charge was part of the [Obama] administration´s push to feminize the service after the "hookergate" nightmare,´ the agent said, referring to agents who were fired after patronizing prostitutes during a security-check trip to Colombia

The Case for Panic
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Washington Free Beacon, by Matthew Continetti    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 10/3/2014 5:27:33 AM     Post Reply
Deadly, irrational, and determined, the intruder snuck across a weakened perimeter. Eluding capture, the intruder was detained only after missteps and close calls. The spin began soon after the threat was isolated. Information was selectively leaked. Half-truths and untruths were uttered. Responsibility was avoided; privileges and credentials asserted; authority reasserted. Trust us. Remain calm. Don’t panic. This is the template of recent events. A mental case jumps the White House fence. He makes it to the East Room before he’s tackled by an off-duty Secret Service agent. Initial statements turn out to be misleading or false. We discover that lapses in

28 words that Democrats
really wish President Obama
didn’t say today

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Washington Post, by Chris Cillizza    Original Article
Posted By: Dreadnought- 10/2/2014 10:48:52 PM     Post Reply
President Obama was at Northwestern University on Thursday to deliver an economic speech that, he and his team hoped, would lay out the case for why the public is better off today than they were six years ago -- even if they didn´t feel it in their everday lives. Instead, Obama just gave every Republican ad-maker in the country more fodder for negative ads linking Democratic candidates to him. Here are the four sentences that will draw all of the attention (they come more than two thirds of the way through the speech): "I am not on the ballot this

The View looking to add cool-down room
for the ladies after Whoopi Goldberg and
Rosie O´Donnell come to blows in front
of studio audience

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Daily Mail [UK], by Chris Spargo    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 10/2/2014 10:52:17 AM     Post Reply
A recent fight between Rosie O´Donnell and Whoopi Goldberg has producers at The View looking to add a cool-down room for the ladies. After being cut off by Goldberg during an episode last week so the show could go to commercial, O´Donnell began to express how upset she was and, after being told repeatedly by Goldberg it was not the right time to have that discussion, eventually got cursed out by the Oscar winner. Goldberg told O´Donnell, ´F*** it, I told you to leave it alone and you just don´t want to listen. If you want to go there Rosie,

Mitt Romney and 2016:
Could It Be True?

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ABC News, by Alana Abramson    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 10/2/2014 1:46:59 PM     Post Reply
A presidential defeat isn’t an easy thing to bounce back from. And Mitt Romney did it twice. So it was understandable that after he lost the presidential race in 2012, he was adamant about closing the door to the possibility of a third campaign. But recently, speculation is whirling that Romney may not be so adamant anymore. When asked if he was running in a New York Times interview published earlier this week, Romney said : “I have nothing to add to the story. We’ve got a lot of people looking at the race,” he said. “We’ll see what happens.” That response, which

Meghan McCain on Secret
Service: ´I hated all of them´

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The Hill (Washington DC), by Judy Kurtz    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 10/3/2014 12:30:44 AM     Post Reply
Meghan McCain joined the dog pile on the Secret Service this week, saying she’s had “nothing but horrible experiences" with the agency and likening the agents to “glorified mall cops.” The 29-year-old author and television personality, who is also the daughter of former GOP presidential candidate Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), opened up on Pivot’s “TakePart Live” about some of her interactions with the Secret Service. "I have nothing but horrible experiences with the Secret Service,” McCain said. “One of my friends called them glorified mall cops and I don´t think that´s terribly far off. I found them cliquey. I hated

Some Blacks See Secret Service
as Flawed Shield for the President

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New York Times, by Peter Baker    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 10/3/2014 12:16:43 PM     Post Reply
WASHINGTON — Representative Elijah E. Cummings of Maryland was at the grocery store the other day when he ran into an elderly black woman who expressed growing concern about President Obama’s safety. Why, she asked, wasn’t he being better protected by his Secret Service agents? The furor that led to this week’s resignation of the director of the Secret Service resonated deeply among blacks, outraged that those supposed to be guarding the first black president were somehow falling down on the job — and suspicious even without evidence that it may be deliberate. “It is something that is widespread in

White House says it has
Ebola virus under control

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The Hill [Washington, DC], by Sarah Ferris    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 10/3/2014 6:55:38 PM     Post Reply
Top White House officials on Friday worked to reassure the American public that the national response to Ebola is under control. Leaders of the country’s health, defense and military branches stressed that they are taking the right steps to contain the spread of the deadly virus, which was first diagnosed in the U.S. on Tuesday. Top White House officials on Friday worked to reassure the American public that the national response to Ebola is under control. Leaders of the country’s health, defense and military branches stressed that they are taking the right steps to contain the spread of the deadly virus, which

California’s next big political fight:
Plastic grocery bags

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Washington Post, by Reid Wilson    Original Article
Posted By: garnet- 10/3/2014 9:19:26 AM     Post Reply
Go to a grocery store in California and buy all the milk, eggs and vegetables you want. But there’s one thing you won’t find at the checkout line, beginning July 1, 2015: Plastic bags to carry your stuff home. Gov. Jerry Brown (D) on Tuesday signed into law a ban on single-use plastic bags, making California the first state to prohibit stores from using the ubiquitous carry-alls. Shoppers will be charged 10 cents for every paper bag and heavy-duty plastic bag they use. “This bill is a step in the right direction,” Brown said in a press release announcing his approval. “It

Lindsey Graham Mulling White House Run
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Daily Caller, by Alex Pappas    Original Article
Posted By: jackson- 10/3/2014 1:37:53 PM     Post Reply
The hawkish Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina says he is thinking about running for president in 2016. In an interview with Stephen Hayes of the Weekly Standard, the senator, running for re-election to the Senate this year, said: “If I get through my general election, if nobody steps up in the presidential mix, if nobody’s out there talking — me and McCain have been talking — I may just jump in to get to make these arguments,” Graham said. Graham, 59, also dismissed Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, 43, as a presidential candidate, saying he is too young. “He’s a good

Hillary Gets Tocqueville
Wrong By 100 Years

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Weekly Standard, by Daniel Halper    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 10/2/2014 11:31:10 AM     Post Reply
Speaking at a Tragedy Assistance Program for Survivors event last night, Hillary Clinton decided to talk about Alexis de Tocqueville. The problem? She got it wrong -- by about a hundred years. "There´s a wonderful phrase that was first used by Alexis de Tocqueville, who came to the United States in the very early 1930s and traveled around our country," said Hillary Clinton, a probable 2016 presidential candidate. "And he was so amazed at how Americans organized themselves -- you know, coming from aristocratic Europe, which was totally top-down and hierarchical -- he couldn´t believe how many of us were joiners.


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