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The Evil of the Outdoor Cat
New York Times, by Richard Conniff

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Posted By:MissMolly, 3/23/2014 5:25:45 AM

ONCE upon a time I had a cat named Lucky, and the name fit. She turned up on our doorstep as a stray and stayed with us for 10 years, until her rather gruesome demise. (More about that later.) I liked her because she was a free spirit, and a survivor, going out for two, three, even five days, in all seasons. She’d show up when it suited her, waiting in the dark before dawn till I came downstairs and turned on my desk lamp. Then she’d make her presence known by rising up on her hind legs and gently


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Reply 1 - Posted by: LoneVoice, 3/23/2014 6:06:42 AM     (No. 9780383)

This is what qualifies as "evil" to an environmentalist. Right and Wrong are reduced to a code of Earth worship.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: wetenschapper, 3/23/2014 6:11:55 AM     (No. 9780387)

Years ago, when I used to quail hunt in South Texas with my father, we´d occasionally run across feral cat out in the brush country, miles from any farmhouse. When we saw such an animal, Dad would have me shoot it with my .410, rather than waste one of his more expensive 12 ga. shells. As a child, I hated doing it, but as Dad pointed out, a single cat can wipe out an entire covey of quail in a matter of days. From time to time, we´d encounter piles of feathers that proved his point. The shooting of feral cats seemed cruel to me at the time, but the practice was justified considering the tremendous impact that ferals have on native wildlife.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: msjena, 3/23/2014 6:43:40 AM     (No. 9780395)

Here is what is evil: people who abandon cats who then breed outdoors and create feral cat colonies. And cars are far more dangerous to cats who live or allowed outdoors than cats are to birds.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: StormCnter, 3/23/2014 6:56:02 AM     (No. 9780403)

Not in my area, #3. This is a rural, fairly lightly populated neighborhood. In the roads I see dead squirrels, dead armadillos, dead skunks, dead dogs, but never ever a dead cat. There are two neighbors who turn their cats out several times a day. Yes, dead birds show up frequently.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: DaddyO, 3/23/2014 7:46:51 AM     (No. 9780444)

My cat used to attack birds. She would occasionally bring one up to the house, to show off her kill. Then the birds declared war on her and she never got a minute´s peace when she went outside. The birds dive bombed her mercilessly anytime she left the porch. This went on for about a year, then they must have declared a truce because it stopped. She never brought another dead bird to the porch again.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Keekng, 3/23/2014 7:48:39 AM     (No. 9780447)

Perhaps the environmentalists will write a hit piece against the deadly Snail Darter which is threatening livelihoods by not allowing irrigation in California.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: msjena, 3/23/2014 7:53:31 AM     (No. 9780451)

My parents thought it was OK to let cats out. At least four that I can recall were hit by cars. If there are fewer seen on the highway it´s because there are more responsible owners that do not let their cats out. Indoor cats don´t kill birds, don´t have fleas, don´t get lost and don´t get hit by cars.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: suedotsue, 3/23/2014 8:07:09 AM     (No. 9780464)

The radical left is quite sick and hate filled. A few years ago I started seeing long, angry articles they wrote about how cats must be eliminated to save the planet, that they used too much food. If the radical left wants food, or even to stop mass murder, all they have to do is protest ethanol. Without ethanol, food prices and poverty would decrease, people wouldn´t have to abandon their cats.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: heartsurgeon, 3/23/2014 8:09:28 AM     (No. 9780469)

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Edgelady, 3/23/2014 8:20:52 AM     (No. 9780480)

We live in rural Texas - our last cat died this summer - now we have too many dogs to dare intentionally introduce a cat - they´ve killed two rural ones since then.

Then late summer we were invaded by huge rats, they decimated my garden, even ate my ornamental sweet potato plant down to nubs. I went and adopted a Parsons terrier and she fairly quickly joined up with a larger dog and the rat killing began. Her first kill I measured: 14 inches from nose to tail. I googled Texas rats and identified it at a roof rat (rattus rattus - mother of all rats).

Our area is not unique - in Austin the main reason for calls to exterminators is mice and rats. Our dogs will chase rabbits - sometimes catch them. My terrier has also caught an unsuspecting bird or two. Barn cats are a staple in the country, but good old terriers do just as well.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: TunnelRat, 3/23/2014 8:28:49 AM     (No. 9780492)

"We were about to become early adopters in the trend that is beginning to make outdoor cats as socially unacceptable as smoking cigarettes in the office, or leaving dog droppings on the sidewalk. "

"socially unacceptable"

Like firearms, free speech, or belief in Christ...

Stick it where the sun doesn´t shine, New York!

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Keekng, 3/23/2014 8:38:14 AM     (No. 9780502)

Why do "environmentalists" think it is necessary to control cat populations but cruel to control wolf or deer populations?

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Reply 13 - Posted by: wetenschapper, 3/23/2014 9:00:36 AM     (No. 9780528)

Are you certain, #10 that those were a Rattus rattus (black rat), and not Ratus norvegicus (brown rat)? The differences are subtle between these closely-related species, but R. rattus is relatively uncommon in Texas, and mostly confined to the more tropical parts.

Rats bring up, I think, a good exampe with which to argue why feral cats are not the same as our pet housecats. We all love our pet cats, but these human-adapted animals are vastly different in behavior and temperment from their wild counterparts. Our family has two pet rats (sisters that my son named Patty and Selma). They´re sweet, unaggressive creatures, come when called by name, are trained to use a litter box, and are clean, tidy animals. When we had both a cat and a pet rat, the two of them would play together like two kittens. Now, contrast these critters with the wild rats described above, and you have some sense of the difference between pet and feral cats.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: StormCnter, 3/23/2014 9:27:26 AM     (No. 9780559)

A long-ago, much-loved family pet dachshund was the best rat-killer I ever saw.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: shamus, 3/23/2014 9:48:30 AM     (No. 9780580)

Liberals kill birds in socially acceptable ways, such as chopping them to bits with electric windmills or frying them with solar mirrors. They have been granted an indulgence by regulators as this furthers green energy scams which leftists use to enrich themselves.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: steph_gray, 3/23/2014 10:04:41 AM     (No. 9780598)

I am in a lightly populated suburban cul-de-sac where my cat is in no danger from the rare passing cars.

I´ll be damned if any bureaucrat or anyone thinks they have the right to tell me to keep him inside. He loves going outside. He is also by nature very skittish and extremely alert to any danger, runs like the wind even at advanced age. Also, like people who grow wiser and more conservative with age, he spends less time out now than he did when young, making his rounds in an hour or so and then asking to come back in.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Jalo1951, 3/23/2014 10:12:20 AM     (No. 9780607)

The average age of an outdoor cat is approx. 5 years old. Indoor cats with good care can easily reach late teens if not older. Keep your kitties inside for their own health not for environmentalist. Cats are the world´s best hunters and there is nothing you can do to stop that behavior.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: papasparky, 3/23/2014 10:17:19 AM     (No. 9780613)

While we are on this spin-off discussion of rats someone should change the subject to the most destructive specie of rat to ever inhabit North America, that being the democ rat.

This feral and hearty rodent has been known to infest civilization from the halls of Congress to the one room jails of the Louisiana swamps. They have multiplied to the point of having no predators to control their numbers. The feral cats have all become "cool cats", (one recently moved into the White House), and all the rat terriers have morphed into "yellow dogs".

If the Pied Pipers of days gone by really ever existed , their modern counterparts have all gone to work for the IRS, EPA, HHS, etc., so the outlook for the future is not encouraging.

Evolution is not in our favor -- Maybe ´We The People´ need to put an "R" (for Republican) in front of it and call it a revolution?

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Keekng, 3/23/2014 10:38:13 AM     (No. 9780648)

Bravo, #18, Bravo!

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Reply 20 - Posted by: ricktutt, 3/23/2014 11:35:25 AM     (No. 9780704)

Typical liberal view of cat ownership. I´ll keep my outdoor cats and continue feeding feral cats. Take that you liberal!

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Reply 21 - Posted by: tomanderson61, 3/23/2014 11:48:25 AM     (No. 9780715)

Oh of course. The weird cat people start to froth at the mouth the minute someone points to THEIR cat problem, and we must all be liberals if we don´t like free running cats.

These are the same people that should they see a big dog out and about attacking other little mammals, they´re the first on the phone to call animal control.

The irony is thick and humorous.

I moved into my home 10 years ago. It felt like we were under siege. Cats would get into our trash. Lay on and scratch up our cars. Constantly pee on my cars´ wheels. Poop up the garden. Leave dead animals. Many, many times they would go up to our large tree and raid the birds nests, and I would come to find whole nests of chewed up baby birds splattered on my driveway. It was sick.

I finally had enough, and bought a raccoon trap. Worked great. Almost forty trips to the pound. Not one cat I trapped had any collar or ID. Yet they were all healthy and well fed, some idiot´s cat who felt it was just fine to "let them do what is natural" and roam free.

They are likely all dead now, and I lose no sleep over doing my part to save our neighborhood.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: tomanderson61, 3/23/2014 11:58:04 AM     (No. 9780725)

One other little piece of hypocrisy to kick around for the "I will darn well let my cat run free all over crowed".

Can my big 125lb mutt come over to your house and kill your cat? Maybe leave its dead carcass, face frozen in a screaming rictus, blood splattered on your porch to "show off" his kill? Why not? You should all be saying, oh yes, quite OK, HE IS ONLY ACTING NATURAL AND I HAVE MY RIGHTS AS A PET OWNER! Why is your cat´s life more precious than someone pet parakeet, canary, or the wildlife they enjoy in their backyard. I can buy my own rat traps, thank you very much.

Can he come over and lay in your yard? Kill off the wild life there? Go through your trash? Why not? Why must I put up with the destruction of YOUR pet, but you are free from mine?

Guess that makes you all dog-hating liberals, right?

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Reply 23 - Posted by: MissMolly, 3/23/2014 11:58:05 AM     (No. 9780726)

How am I supposed to keep your free-running outdoor cats from pooping in my flower beds and planters? I keep my dog leashed when out of the yard and I don´t allow her to poop on your grass.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: fobo, 3/23/2014 12:24:27 PM     (No. 9780759)

anyone else do the math on this? Accepting the author´s numbers and assuming every cat was allowed outside, They would kill an average of 14 birds a year. How did Lucky bag 33?

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Reply 25 - Posted by: chillijilli, 3/23/2014 12:41:37 PM     (No. 9780778)

How about if we just quit trying to manage nature and instead focus on managing our personal affairs by being responsible citizens?

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Reply 26 - Posted by: enuf8, 3/23/2014 1:38:31 PM     (No. 9780837)

What happened to all of the ´leash´ laws??????

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Reply 27 - Posted by: jt26, 3/23/2014 2:35:36 PM     (No. 9780901)

I have a cat who is 14 years old and likes to go outside. When she was younger she would kill mice and bring them to the porch to show us, but the birds she killed she ate whole, minus the head and wings. Cats need to go outside and enjoy, not fair to keep them in the house all the time. The only evil is in the mind of the stupid libtards.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: msjena, 3/23/2014 3:06:06 PM     (No. 9780915)

Cats do not need to go outside, not because of the environment, but because it is dangerous to the cats. But I don´t favor a law mandating it. As for #23, cats bury their poop. It´s fertilizer if they do it in your flower bed.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: tomanderson61, 3/23/2014 3:43:05 PM     (No. 9780951)

#28, uh, no they don´t always.

Can I come over and poop on your grass? It´s fertilizer. You do know in some 3rd world countries they use human poop as fertilizer, right?

How about my two huskies pooping up your flowers? It´s healthy.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: MissMolly, 3/23/2014 3:47:17 PM     (No. 9780957)

Ok, if they "bury their poop", and no they don´t always, I don´t want my flowers dug up and dirt all over the sidewalk because the cat buried the poop deposited in my planters.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: msjena, 3/23/2014 4:39:55 PM     (No. 9781000)

#29 and #30. Somehow I doubt it is a big problem with cats pooping in planters (I have cats and large house plants, for instance, and have no problem. Outdoor sandboxes, yes.) Second, I don´t advocate letting cats out at all. Third, if they do get let out, it´s a big world out there for them to poop in. Their instinct is to bury it, so they look for ground (not lawn) they can dig up. Dog poop is a much bigger problem and is not in any way comparable.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: philsner, 3/23/2014 5:51:41 PM     (No. 9781050)

The average life span of an outdoor cat is about two years. Indoor cats live to be 15 or even older.
Cats can be trained to stay in a backyard. Mine absolutely love the catnip plants in my garden bed. They go outside every day and never leave the backyard. We also fledge Bluebirds from our backyard bird houses without problem from my cats. It isn´t rocket science. You just have to care about them and have dominion.
I venture to say that the garden variety liberal couldn´t care less whether his cat lives or dies. They are just cats after all. No better than a sparrow or a field mouse.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 3/24/2014 6:23:52 PM     (No. 9782536)

Oh, brother. Stray cats are the cause of Global Warming? The e4nd times approach dute to felineprogenic global bird populations dieaster? Can the evil cats also be responsible for the deadly bee hive depredations across the globe?

No why it could be the over use and careless applications of insecticide! Right? It would be way too horrible to accuse corporate billionaires of incorrect chemical distributions. Right?

Keep looking at the wild populations of ´free will" kitties. Ignore the obvious all around us.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 3/25/2014 2:44:57 AM     (No. 9782860)

Not exactly.

I used to feed birds in my back yard until one day a hawk flew by and picked one up. It´s partner cried for a hour or more looking for it.

The two feral cats outside hopefully will keep the critters away. The one inside is too fat to run after anything.

Worse yet are the people that have tried to harm one of the feral cats. It would have been better to shoot it.

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The First Lady of these United States has declared war on Chick-fil-A. It seems the home of plump juicy breasts and hot buttered buns has run afoul of the new Smart Snacks in School program. The program is a component of Mrs. Obama’s Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act of 2010. The new government regulations require snack items served in public schools to have less than two hundred calories. That includes vending machines, lunch rooms and other campus food venues. And that’s really bad news for kids at South Carolina’s Socastee High School. They’ve just learned they will no longer be allowed to buy Chick-fil-A

Lie at Heart of “Immigration
Reform” Exposed

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Daily Caller, by Mickey Kaus    Original Article
Posted By: Toledo- 7/15/2014 12:11:48 AM     Post Reply
“Trust” is for Con Men: The reaction to the border chaos in Texas has accomplished one thing: It has exploded the lie at the heart of current “comprehensive” immigration reform plans. The basic structure of those plans is a swap of a) near-immediate legalization for b) increased border security in the future. The appealing idea is to let current illegals stay while taking the steps necessary to prevent further waves. The lie is the assumption that, once current illegals get their legalization, pro-immigrant activists in both parties will continue to support the second half of the bargain, the increased security. The

The 5 Most Dangerous Guns in America
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Rolling Stone, by Kristen Gwynne    Original Article
Posted By: scottc- 7/15/2014 11:46:15 AM     Post Reply
Contrary to what those who defend the right to own high-powered assault rifles believe, not all guns are created equal. Due to a combination of availability, portability and criminal usage the following five types of guns are the country's most dangerous. School Shootings: Widely Reported Tragedies Since 2000 - Using firearm trace data from the ATF, as well as FBI homicide records, we determined the types of guns most often recovered from crime scenes and/or used in murders. The numbers are stark: According to the FBI's 2012 Crime in the US data, nearly 70 percent of homicides for which the FBI received weapons data involved the use

Obama AWOL as border crisis worsens
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Washington Times, by Editorial    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 7/16/2014 5:02:13 AM     Post Reply
John McCain, an immigration hawk. Who knew? Mr. McCain, the highest-profile Republican of the U.S. Senate’s “Gang of Eight” that came up with amnesty as the solution to the immigration crisis — and it truly is a crisis — is finally taking a hard line against President Obama for his encouraging the tidal wave of illegal aliens swamping the southwestern border. “There has to be a halt to this,” Mr. McCain thundered Sunday on CNN. “That’s what we want, and the best way to do that is for planeloads of these young people to be returning to their country of origin

The media can no longer ignore
Obama and Hillary Clinton´s problems

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Washington Examiner [DC], by Noemie Emery    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 7/16/2014 5:15:16 AM     Post Reply
It had to come sometime, and it came in one very bad week for the Democrats: that the many big problems with Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama finally grew too great for the press to ignore. Obama in his own different way is heading towards Nixon-like levels of weirdness, as, beaten down by the failures regarding his ventures, he appears to have quit his own job. A.B. Stoddard of the Hill says in effect he has stopped being president and chooses to live in a world of his own, shutting out the problems that have become overwhelming, giving dinners where he talks

Rove American Crossroads
in Mississippi Controversy

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American Spectator, by Jeffrey Lord    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 7/16/2014 8:43:14 AM     Post Reply
The headline in the Washington Post on June 4 was clear: Rove-backed American Crossroads won’t get involved in Cochran runoff Said the Post story the day after Tea Party favorite Chris McDaniel had defeated six-term Mississippi GOP Senator Thad Cochran in the first round of the state’s GOP primary: American Crossroads, a GOP establishment organization, has decided to shift its political focus almost entirely to the general election and will not be spending money in the likely runoff election to decide the Mississippi Senate nomination that was virtually deadlocked after Tuesday night. […] “Other than Alaska, we have completed our work on Senate primaries

Exclusive - Sessions Warns All of Congress:
Obama´s New Immigration Strategy ´Threatens
Foundation of Our Constitutional Republic´

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Breitbart´s Big Government, by Matthew Boyle    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 7/15/2014 9:28:19 AM     Post Reply
Senate Budget Committee ranking member Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) has warned all of his colleagues in Congress that President Barack Obama’s new immigration strategy—his plans to legalize millions of illegal alien adults through executive power—could destroy America as we know it. “I write to inform you of a development that threatens the foundation of our constitutional Republic,” Sessions, Congress’s top immigration hawk, wrote in a letter that was hand-delivered to all 535 members of Congress on Monday and provided exclusively to Breitbart News. Sessions cites a recent report from the National Journal, in which reporter Major Garrett detailed how, despite the ongoing

Eric Holder: Americans Should Not
Be ´Color Blind,´ But ´Color Brave´

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Breitbart´s Big Government, by Charlie Spiering    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 7/15/2014 1:34:47 PM     Post Reply
Attorney General Eric Holder encouraged Americans not to forget race while working for justice and equality in their country. “As it stands, our society is not yet color blind -- nor should it be -- given the disparities that still afflict and divide us.” Holder explained, “We must be color brave, and we must never forget that all are made better and more prosperous if all are given equal opportunities.” Holder made his remarks during a speech at Howard University on Tuesday for the 50th Anniversary Celebration of the Civil Rights Act. “We must take into account not only the

Behind the scenes at the
Clinton White House

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New York Post, by Geoff Earle    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 7/15/2014 5:04:05 AM     Post Reply
WASHINGTON — It was an enduring image of his presidency: a chastened Bill Clinton walking his dog while wife Hillary keeps her distance as the family leaves town at the height of the Monica Lewinsky scandal — but it was all part of a contrived public-repentance campaign, according to a new book. With Bill on the skids and his wife’s future prospects on the line, it was necessary for the pubic to see the president being punished, said Weekly Standard online editor Daniel Halper in his new book, “Clinton, Inc.: The Audacious Rebuilding of a Political Machine.” “They understood that

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