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Ice dancing finale leaves
hurt feelings in Sochi

CBS News and Associated Press, by Staff

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Posted By:NorthernDog, 2/18/2014 5:03:42 PM

SOCHI, Russia - Like bruises from falls and cuts from blades, split loyalties come with the icy territory in figure skating. Canadian ice dance silver medalists Tessa Virtue and Scott Moir on Tuesday bemoaned the split allegiance of coach Marina Zoueva, who also works with American gold medalists at the 2014 Winter Olympics Meryl Davis and Charlie White. Virtue and Moir have been longtime students of Zoueva´s, as have Davis and White. "We sometimes felt like (Zoueva) wasn´t in our corner," Moir said, more in the way of stating a fact as he and Virtue perceived it than as a

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Too much drama for me.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: miceal, 2/18/2014 5:20:36 PM     (No. 9737526)

Somehow I think Marina Zoueva is about to bust with pride for ALL of her students, and that is a GOOD THING!

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Reply 2 - Posted by: CEP, 2/18/2014 5:20:41 PM     (No. 9737527)

When they won the Gold last time, she was their coach also the coach of Davis and White. So maybe Davis and White were just a bit better this time. If it was okay when they won the Gold but not okay if someone else won the Gold? Sounds more like sour grapes.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: pinger, 2/18/2014 5:26:06 PM     (No. 9737534)

Maybe the judges were paid off? Bush´s fault? Racism? Global warming? It couldn´t be them!

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Reply 4 - Posted by: nimby, 2/18/2014 5:44:49 PM     (No. 9737548)

Note to Virtue and Moir.......you danced on ice and Zoueva didn´t. So, if you have to point fingers at anyone, look at yourselves in the mirror.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: msjena, 2/18/2014 6:02:35 PM     (No. 9737562)

They could have changed coaches. And they already have a gold medal. Sorry if I don´t feel much sympathy. (Why does it seem like Canadians are such crybabies? The last time Canadian figure skaters were allegedly robbed, in 2002, it caused the whole scoring system to be overturned and a second gold medal to be awarded).

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Reply 6 - Posted by: The Maggster, 2/18/2014 6:07:49 PM     (No. 9737566)

The Gold Medal was given to the correct Ice Dancing Couple. They were absolutely amazing. As a matter of fact all the Ice Dancing pairs were amazing. It was a wonderful treat just to watch so many gifted skaters.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Pros7767, 2/18/2014 6:18:17 PM     (No. 9737572)

Agree with #5, except that the Canadians were robbed in 2002. They deserved the Gold on their own.

The modifications to the scoring were necessary to remedy an ongoing problem.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: FL_Absentee_Voter, 2/18/2014 6:21:43 PM     (No. 9737575)

That´s a pretty serious accusation. Nothing Zoueva did on the night of the competition could/would have changed anything. The implication is that she planned and executed a scheme to defraud them over a 4-year period.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: excalgalcg, 2/18/2014 6:23:19 PM     (No. 9737576)

I watched the ice dancing and they were all good but the American couple were the best. In an article I read today, the Canadian couple were excellent, but their music was choppy and the judges took that into consideration. As an observer only, I didn´t care for their music because they had to almost come to a stop to get with the change in rhythm. But it does sound like sour grapes for Canada. Too bad.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: nigella, 2/18/2014 6:35:04 PM     (No. 9737593)

Waah,wah,wah, she likes them better than us....

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Reply 11 - Posted by: kanphil, 2/18/2014 6:42:30 PM     (No. 9737604)

I am not a judge or an expert, but the American couple gave an absolutely spellbinding performance.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: earlybird, 2/18/2014 6:45:51 PM     (No. 9737607)

Their Russian coach (whom they knew was also coaching the American pair who won) was ordered by this Canadian pair to deliver the gold to them!!!!!

My already low enthusiasm for Canadians, after having worked with some in the past, has now resumed its slide.

I´ll bet that when they went on the ice they thought they had a two winning programs and winning talent.

So did the Americans. We won.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Hazymac, 2/18/2014 6:48:04 PM     (No. 9737613)

Virtue and Moir were excellent, clearly one of the top two pairs, and probably ice-danced better than they did when they won gold in the 2010 Olympics in Vancouver. They have nothing of which to be ashamed.

But Meryl Davis and Charlie White achieved a level of excellence probably never before seen in the sport, and were clearly the best performers, probably ever. They were so good they practically gave me an ache inside, which happens when something I see really impresses me. I am an old professional athlete (golf), and know from experience that sometimes you play your best and get beaten. Life goes on. Congratulate the winners sincerely and try to outwork them next time. Maybe they´re just better.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: SoCalGal, 2/18/2014 6:51:48 PM     (No. 9737616)

If these crybabies bemoan their coach´s split loyalty, perhaps she should dump them.

The American pair looked far better. The Canadian girl, Tessa (Virtue?) is too sturdy-looking when compared to petite, ethereal Meryl. And her dance moves were the same regardless of the music that was being played. Meryl captured the unique mood of each.

Some have it. Some don´t quite.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Urgent Fury, 2/18/2014 6:55:39 PM     (No. 9737623)

All the whining and drama--what is this, the NFL?

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Reply 16 - Posted by: dman, 2/18/2014 6:56:40 PM     (No. 9737627)

Aren´t the Olympic Games supposed to be about sportsmanship and bringing nations together? This sounds like the US and the Soviets arguing about which German rocket scientists worked in their space programs. Just swallow hard, congratulate the new "winners", and get ´em next time.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: CzndCitzen, 2/18/2014 6:59:14 PM     (No. 9737630)

Oh please... if they´ve been harboring these feelings of resentment they should have switched coaches but they didn´t because she is the best... they weren´t, boo hoo, get over yourselves.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Emerson, 2/18/2014 7:11:53 PM     (No. 9737642)

This pair´s belief that their Russian coach could somehow guarantee them the gold medal in Russia is rather interesting.

Did she lead them to believe that? Or did they assume something?

There may be more on this story.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: TXknitter, 2/18/2014 7:21:24 PM     (No. 9737650)

If I were Virtue and Noir, I would be thankful for the Silver Medal. Everyone I watched the performances with thought the Russian Bronze Medalists were far more polished than Virtue/Noir were last night, IMHO. Elena and Nikita´s costumes, musicality and grace to that exquisite piece of music was unbelievably good. Yep, goes without saying Davis and White were sheer perfection out there! It was so wonderful to see!!!!

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Reply 20 - Posted by: blizzard, 2/18/2014 7:22:18 PM     (No. 9737652)

I hope the coach fires the Canadian team.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: antiquegolf, 2/18/2014 7:23:52 PM     (No. 9737653)

The " . . skating twittersphere . . "

What?





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Reply 22 - Posted by: msjena, 2/18/2014 7:38:29 PM     (No. 9737661)

The Americans didn´t whine when they won the silver in 2010. I think both teams may retire after this, so the coaching situation will be a non-issue. And the Canadians are still Olympic gold medalists, so I don´t know why they are complaining.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Garage Logician, 2/18/2014 8:27:56 PM     (No. 9737710)

If you can´t time it, or measure it, or count the goals or target hits, it is not a sport. Everything else is dancing. Dancing is not a sport.

Also, make everybody compete naked. Summer or winter. Naked.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Ida Lil, 2/18/2014 8:41:59 PM     (No. 9737718)

After Tessa and Scott left the Ice the commentator said they gave the performance of their life. It was beautiful.
She follwed by adding that Merle and Charlie had to give perfection.
They did period.
They not only skated to perfection they told the theme story on ice.


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Reply 25 - Posted by: earlybird, 2/18/2014 9:14:08 PM     (No. 9737750)

Re #23, apparently they do time it (one team lost a point or holding a lift a bit too long); the various elements are rated for difficulty; and inclusion of certain elements is mandatory (at least in the short program). I do not know the scoring system, but picked up these things watching NBCSN´s live daytime coverage, which was far more informative than the goop served up on NBC in prime time.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Garage Logician, 2/18/2014 9:22:34 PM     (No. 9737760)

Mostly judged for prettiness. Dancing.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Hermoine, 2/18/2014 9:30:15 PM     (No. 9737765)

O CANADA...zip it.

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