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64% Of Americans Say ObamaCare Would Never
Have Passed If The Truth Had Been Known

Independent Journal Review, by Mike Miller

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Posted By:StormCnter, 2/16/2014 4:35:13 PM

A new poll puts Obama’s false promise, “if you like your healthcare plan you can keep it,” in perspective: 64% of Americans say ObamaCare would’ve never passed if Americans had known the truth in 2009. Moreover, the Fox news poll found the sentiment to be spread across all party lines, with 74% of Republicans, 68% of Independents and 54% of Democrats saying Obama’s unpopular healthcare program would never have passed. Even more troubling, 56% of Americans said ObamaCare was more about the government seizing control of citizens’ lives, versus just 40% who felt Obama’s plan was about improving healthcare. Perhaps the most troubling

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: cmardh, 2/16/2014 4:40:50 PM     (No. 9735028)

I knew the truth. Where were the rest of you morons? (L-dotters excluded! )


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Reply 2 - Posted by: Bpl40, 2/16/2014 4:43:29 PM     (No. 9735031)

This is true abou all Liberal programs. They and their collaborationists in the media go to great lengths to make sure the truth doesn´t come out until it´s too late.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: CleanhouseinDc, 2/16/2014 4:44:49 PM     (No. 9735032)

Let´s see whom the electorate punishes for this scam.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Spidey, 2/16/2014 4:51:25 PM     (No. 9735038)

There´s yet another lie coming out about what Obama promised and that´s pre-existing people can´t be excluded. It may be true on medicaid but private insurance ain´t buying it,even in AIDS cases.

It´s hard for me to grasp how much Americans hate this but Obama still stands with reltively good numbers.They really can´t believe how people aren´t signing up for medicaid.So they´re down on the border recruiting aliens to sign up.

Doctors are quitting private practice to go to work for hospitals to avoid the debacles of paperwork and maybe even lawsuits.The ten-11 girls you see in a doctor´s office will start losing their jobs and they won´t use the new spare tme to be an artist.They have husbands and kids.

Obama´s on the golf course getting advice from liberal billionaires on how to destroy the country faster,while the media drools over separate vacations.I don´t even believe MO knows how to ski.Probably been a non stop booze fest.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: pedro4, 2/16/2014 4:54:36 PM     (No. 9735041)

I will forward this to my liberal family members, but they will hate on me for being right. Their good intentions trump my common sense. The one issue being ignored is that no pharma company will invest money in new drugs when they face an uncertain future. People will die.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: ruready?, 2/16/2014 4:57:17 PM     (No. 9735042)

Just remember, Obama hates us more than we hate Obamacare. Our repulsion from this disaster is what energized him and his demonic base.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: SpeedMaster, 2/16/2014 5:12:01 PM     (No. 9735050)

If there is any justice someday the public will know that the reason Americans did not know was because the MSM did not do it´s job.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: TXknitter, 2/16/2014 5:26:17 PM     (No. 9735070)



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Reply 9 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 2/16/2014 5:29:15 PM     (No. 9735072)

The truth was there, LoFos just didn´t want to hear it.

"If you think health care is expensive now, just wait till it´s free"
P.J. O´Rourke

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Rafter, 2/16/2014 5:32:01 PM     (No. 9735073)

Only a delusional Kommunist Witch would say...
"You must pass this 2,000 page legislation to find out what is in it."

Fifty years ago, that DimWitch would have been exposed and drummed out
of orifice immediately, since all Americans hated Kommie propaganda then.

Now people lap it up apparently.
At least the MSM is doing so.

Had we simply kept the House under the GOP in 2006 and 2008 voting...
there would be NO O-BomberKommieKare now.

But, instead...
The same people now want a "Convention for Proposing Amendments"
to undo this and other damage.

What are the odds?

Why not just vote in an election which is occurring anyway and
keep the House (and preferably also the Senate) under the GOP?

That´s the faster, cheaper way to do things.
But nooooo...
Let´s have a convention...
Has never happened in over 200 years.
Fat chance.


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Reply 11 - Posted by: Attila DiMedici, 2/16/2014 5:47:22 PM     (No. 9735091)

They are mistaken. The Democratic Party politicians were convinced that people would love this once it passed. They were so sure they knew better than everybody else. They knew it would not work, but they thought that its failure would cause people to clamor for a single-payer system to replace it.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Ida Lil, 2/16/2014 6:04:35 PM     (No. 9735101)

The last time liberals were quietly pushing a Constitutional convention their agenda was a switch to a parlimentwith the Senate simular to the House of Lords. Unsung but included would have been trashing the Bill of Rights.
This time the main objective is to eliminate that Pesky Bil of Rights.
That would allow them to set up a Soviet style ruling body.
Some leaders should think that one over again because although the comrades didn´t face elections they were stomped to death if they got out of line.


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Reply 13 - Posted by: reefdiver, 2/16/2014 6:05:53 PM     (No. 9735103)

Obama would not have been elected had the truth been known.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Periwinkel, 2/16/2014 6:06:10 PM     (No. 9735104)

The Democrats would have passed ACA no matter what. They were determined to take over 1/6th of the US economy and they didn´t care what anyone knew and they didn´t care where public opinion stood.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Hotrod, 2/16/2014 6:10:54 PM     (No. 9735107)

After finding that you have been lied to numerous times, a rational person would no longer believe the liar. How many times must a liberal be lile to before they come around? Answer: They are OK with being lied to.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Udanja99, 2/16/2014 6:38:33 PM     (No. 9735124)

It would be the ultimate in karma if Nancy "We Have to Pass It to Find Out What´s In It" Pelosi got voted out of congress because her constituents in SF starting dropping dead from lack of treatment for AIDS.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Coy860, 2/16/2014 6:49:50 PM     (No. 9735128)

#10 please do not confuse a convention of States, with a Constitutional convention.
Article V is a convention of State Legislatures (NO DC Congress or Feds involved in any way). The States suggest ways to take back powers that the Feds have usurped through the years. Since each States´ legislators are more in touch with their People, they are more in tune with what their State and their People want.
In 200 years, have we ever had tyranny before? The Framers gave us a way to combat tyranny and we must use it to survive.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: fishbone, 2/16/2014 7:22:52 PM     (No. 9735148)

It´s scary and disheartening that it wasn´t 100% instead of 64%. That means we have 36% voters who are stone stupid, just downright crazy, or absolutely dyed in the wool communists who hate America and wish it devastating harm.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: enuf8, 2/16/2014 7:55:48 PM     (No. 9735166)

I don´t see the swarm of Cruz bashers posting with numerous posts defending obamacare--which had Cornyn, McConnell, McCain, Ayotte, Flake and others who voted for Cloture allowing the Senate to pass the funding of obamacare with a simple 51 vote margin instead of 60, the results might have been different. House had already approved the de-funding.
Then they reversed on their decision to fight obamacare during the debt ceiling talks. "Throw Them All Out" - By Peter Schweizer.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: chance_232, 2/16/2014 8:00:52 PM     (No. 9735171)

Republicans were accused of scare mongering, obstructionism and hating poor people ...... by none other than the liberal media. Even when the ACA was being debated, the MAJORITY of Americans did not want it. The American people rose up en-mass in November of 2010 in opposition to Obamacare and the press, democrats and Obama acted as if nothing had changed.

Since then, the Republicans has passed legislation to repeal, gut or otherwise eviscerate Obamacare. However, one man has prevented the senate from voting for it and one man was the deciding vote on the Supreme Court to keep in place.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: woofwoofwoof, 2/16/2014 8:29:26 PM     (No. 9735182)

It wouldn´t have been passed if even Obama had known the truth.

Unfortunately he´s not big on truth, or for that matter on knowing.

Running his mouth and golfing - and to be sure, getting elected - seem to be his skills. What is wrong with the American electorate (and the MSM) that this wasn´t clear to all from the very first?

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Reply 22 - Posted by: ohyababy, 2/16/2014 8:40:27 PM     (No. 9735191)

That´s what happens when you don´t think for yourself or educate yourself as to what´s really going on instead of acting like sheep and drinking the kool-aid....

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Reply 23 - Posted by: uno, 2/16/2014 9:26:12 PM     (No. 9735204)

Meanwhile the Marxist Liberals tell us:
"Pay no attention to that man behind the Black curtain!"

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Patchy Groundfog, 2/16/2014 10:34:57 PM     (No. 9735260)

36% say ´Where´s my free stuff?´

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Bohallx, 2/16/2014 11:08:26 PM     (No. 9735286)

#24 ~ it´s times like this that we need to understand the layout of the electorate.

First, there are the Democrats. They are the most numerous party and they account for about 26% of all people of voting age.

Next there are the Republicans. They are the second most numerous party and they account for about 24% of all people of voting age.

Finally, there are all the other party type folks, and they account for about 1% to 2% of all people of voting age.

That leaves 48% who NEVER register to vote, nor do they vote ~ They may well not even want to vote, or even care.

You want to know where that 36% are who like ObamaKKKare ~

They are found in a 40% chunk of the electorate that pops up from time to time ~ not as Independents ~ but as estimated non voters exclusive of the disabled elderly or 18 year olds.

This is an artifact of statistical measurements. The Household survey of voting inclinations and registration is taken every 5 years ~ not every 4 ~ which means hardly anyone can even begin to understand the reports.

But, there you go ~ you asked ~ I know where they´re at ~ which seems to be outside politics. They are the Federalist Party aficionados ~ sure, the candidates got wiped out by Thomas Jefferson, but their non voters are still there.

They have smiles. They are happy. No worry!

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Boneshaker, 2/16/2014 11:29:23 PM     (No. 9735300)

Of course it would have still passed.

Democrats may not have known all the details but they knew it was a massive shakedown, power grab and theft of taxpayer money.

Yet they voted for it anyway.

Knowing the details would not have changed their votes.

Their only real gripe is that the Bumbler-In-Chief screwed up the implementation and made them all look like Colonel Clink.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 2/16/2014 11:40:30 PM     (No. 9735305)

Name one politician that has apologized to the American people for voting for Zippycare without reading it.



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Reply 28 - Posted by: Quaestio, 2/17/2014 12:09:30 AM     (No. 9735327)

A clear majority. Ah, now I understand why the GOP leadership has stopped talking about repealing Obamacare.

I´ve come to the only conclusion possible. Democrats sneak stupid pills into Republican Congressmen/Senators food once they get to DC.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: bighambone, 2/17/2014 1:27:05 PM     (No. 9735927)

Obama and the liberals could care less what 64% of the American people think, as about that percentage of Americans are not liberals. The liberals believe they are always right.

Obama and the liberals will now swing into a mend It don´t end it mantra claiming that whatever the Republicans attempt to do on the healthcare issue will be much worse for Americans then the government based healthcare that Obama and the liberals intend to ultimately shove down the throats of the American people.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: radrelic, 2/17/2014 4:17:00 PM     (No. 9736139)

1 in 4 Americans don´t know that the earth revolves around the sun. These 64% do not know the truth of how obamacare got rammed through.

100% of democrat party cares less what that 64% of Americans think they think now since they can fool 100% of the 64% come election propaganda time.

64% of Nasty Pelosi doesn´t care what the people think would or will happen. And on and on...

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I live in Las Vegas. I live and breath Nevada politics. Something is very wrong. Something smells rotten in the Nevada desert. And Senator Harry Reid’s fingerprints are all over it. I am of course referring to the Bundy Ranch siege. This was a dispute between a Nevada ranching family with rights to the land in question for 140 years and the BLM (Bureayu of Land Management). The government claims they haven’t paid grazing fees for 20 years. The result was a government assault on the ranch- including snipers with assault rifles, SUV’s, helicopters, airplanes and over 200 heavily armed troops. No

Atlanta Braves flooded with Hank
Aaron hate mail: He’s a ‘s*****g’

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Washington Times (D.C.), by Cheryl K. Chumley    Original Article
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Hank Aaron’s recent comments about the need for America to realize that racism is still very much alive and thriving — only now due to those who wear “neckties and starched shirts” rather than KKK hoods — has sparked an angry backlash and many fans are turning the tables, calling the baseball legend himself a racist. “Hank Aaron is a s*****g piece of [expletive] [racial slur],” one man said in an email to the Atlanta Braves’ front office, one of the teams Mr. Aaron used to play for, CBS News reported. “My old man instilled in my mind from a

White is not right: Campus admins ask
for help weeding out white people

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Daily Caller, by Robby Soave    Original Article
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Western Washington University sent a questionnaire to students asking them for advice on how the administration could succeed at making sure that in future years, “we are not as white as we are today.” The question notes that WWU’s racial make up does not perfectly reflect the nation at large, and asks students to consider strategies that other universities have used to focus on skin color as the paramount indicator of a student-applicant’s worth. The president of WWU has stated that his explicit goal is to reduce the white population on campus, according to Campus Reform. “I’ve said before and I’ll say it

Former US president joins
opposition to Keystone XL

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Houston Chronicle, by Jennifer A. Dlouhy    Original Article
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WASHINGTON — Former President Jimmy Carter joined fellow Nobel laureates Wednesday in opposing Keystone XL, insisting that approving the pipeline would trigger “more climate upheaval” around the globe. In an open letter to President Barack Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry, Carter and the nine other Nobel Peace Prize winners bluntly warned the leaders: “Your decision on the Keystone XL tar sands pipeline will define your climate legacy.” The missive, published as an advertisement in Politico, represents the first time Carter has taken a position on the $5.4 billion project and makes him the first former president to come

Progressive Insurance
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National Review Online, by Victor Davis Hanson    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/15/2014 10:08:10 PM     Post Reply
How do you ensure that you won’t be ostracized, denounced, or fired if you are a media celebrity, captain of industry, or high public official? For some, sexist banter is certainly no problem. Stand-up comedian Bill Maher called Sarah Palin a c–t and a tw-t, but suffered no ill consequences. David Letterman joked on air that Sarah Palin’s 14-year-old daughter had had sex with Alex Rodriguez during a New York Yankees game. There was no downside to that either. President Obama tosses around “sweetie” as he wishes. No problem with that. No one believes Barack could be condescending to women.


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