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CNN Poll: Pathway to citizenship
trumps border security

CNN, by Paul Steinhauser

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Posted By:StormCnter, 2/6/2014 6:02:16 PM

Washington - Americans overwhelmingly favor a bill that would give most undocumented immigrants a pathway towards citizenship, according to a new national poll. And a CNN/ORC International survey also indicates that a majority of the public says that the government´s main focus should be legalizing the status of the undocumented rather than border security. The poll was released Thursday, the same day that House Speaker John Boehner signaled any action on immigration is unlikely this year because House Republicans don't trust President Barack Obama on the issue. According to the poll, 54% say the top priority for the

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Axeman, 2/6/2014 6:06:37 PM     (No. 9722325)

Something is wrong here. I´ll bet it was a push poll.
I see confusion in the article between "legalization" and "citizenship".

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Reply 2 - Posted by: thenightowl, 2/6/2014 6:08:13 PM     (No. 9722327)

Key word: "International"

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Reply 3 - Posted by: BaseballFan, 2/6/2014 6:08:47 PM     (No. 9722330)

It´s upside down.
A pathway to citizenship exists already.
What does not exist is border security.
When it´s so dad-blamed easy to enter illegally, there´s little incentive to work toward citizenship.

There is no RIGHT to be here, and being here illegally is a criminal offense.

Too bad we´re a nation of unenforced laws.
I guess that´s OK, though - because the way we´re going, we won´t be a nation much longer, because a nation without borders isn´t a nation.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: StormCnter, 2/6/2014 6:10:18 PM     (No. 9722332)

Legalization simply means legal permission to remain here without fear of deportation while certain conditions are met. It has nothing to do with citizenship. Legalization isn´t even a green work card.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: dragon, 2/6/2014 6:10:51 PM     (No. 9722333)

Gallinaceous and bovine polling.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: RedWhiteBlue, 2/6/2014 6:11:02 PM     (No. 9722334)

Key word"CNN". Now lets try that with FOX and you get a totally diff ending to a sad story. No easy way to citizenship....PERIOD. Do not reward lawbreakers. If that happens then let out all the prisoners that have broken the laws!

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Reply 7 - Posted by: locarno, 2/6/2014 6:11:49 PM     (No. 9722336)

Well, if cnn says it, then it MUST be the truth. /s ´The poll was conducted for CNN by ORC International from Jan. 31-Feb. 2, with 1,010 adults nationwide questioned by telephone." In other words: CNN ´needed´ a certain answer, and called their 1000 viewers nationwide in order to get the answer they wanted. Any questions?

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Malia2012, 2/6/2014 6:13:07 PM     (No. 9722339)

Well, if you can´t trust a cnn poll, what poll CAN you trust?......just kidding.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: scottc, 2/6/2014 6:15:12 PM     (No. 9722341)

I am looking forward to CNN explaining this poll which contradicts every poll I have seen on the same subject for the past 20 years.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: miceal, 2/6/2014 6:15:28 PM     (No. 9722342)

Liars!


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Reply 11 - Posted by: snowoutlaw, 2/6/2014 6:19:57 PM     (No. 9722348)

Americans goes from Chile to Canada. This poll is nothing but the typical CNN liberal lie.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Coy860, 2/6/2014 6:22:21 PM     (No. 9722350)

How about a poll of real Americans..marching on the Capital..they can count us by the millions as we sweep the place clean and say NO to illegals expecting rewards for breaking our laws.
The People will not stand for it.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Tsquare, 2/6/2014 6:29:55 PM     (No. 9722354)

The mood of the comments is is mine. We need to solve the illegal immigrant issue before we clean up the
residual issues

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Cor-vet, 2/6/2014 6:30:03 PM     (No. 9722355)

CNN Poll of LaRaza members: Pathway to Citizenship trumps border security. There, fixed that headline!

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Reply 15 - Posted by: horacer, 2/6/2014 6:32:22 PM     (No. 9722356)

This is the actual question -

What should be the main focus of the U.S. government in dealing with the issue of
illegal immigration. Developing a plan that would allow illegal immigrants who have jobs to become legal U.S. residents, or developing a plan for stopping the flow of illegal immigrants into the U.S. and for deporting those already here?

When you add the deporting those already here to border security you skew the results. Most people don´t believe you can deport all the illegals here. And as #4 points out legal status is not the same as pathway to citizenship. CNN is propagandizing.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: PeoplesRepublikNY, 2/6/2014 6:33:25 PM     (No. 9722357)

Right on, #3.

And about those 11 million "undocumenteds". .we´ve heard pundits push that figure for years. I suspect it´s more like 25-30 million by now.


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Reply 17 - Posted by: ocjim, 2/6/2014 6:33:53 PM     (No. 9722358)

With polls it´s all in the wording of the questions and the tone of the call. In any case, America may just be too dumb to save itself. We used to get away with having a lot of dumb, uninformed folks as long as they stayed home and weren´t voting... Now Obama and his ilk are community organizing, tying the ignorant to obamaphone leashes and getting them to the polls. Woe is we.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: nimby, 2/6/2014 6:35:14 PM     (No. 9722359)

CNN is the least trusted network for news. And they expect us to believe their polling? Where did they poll? In Europe?

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Reply 19 - Posted by: jerseytomato, 2/6/2014 6:35:58 PM     (No. 9722360)

Hogwash!

Here in New Jersey, every Democrat I know is passionately against Amnesty for Illegals.

With jobs being as scarce as hen´s teeth, it´s the single common denominator between the two parties.

Something isn´t right about CNN´s poll...

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Reply 20 - Posted by: mfm, 2/6/2014 6:38:59 PM     (No. 9722367)

Breaking BS...

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Penney, 2/6/2014 6:39:12 PM     (No. 9722368)

Cnn lost credibility a couple of decades ago.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Clinger, 2/6/2014 6:40:25 PM     (No. 9722370)

"legalizing the status of the undocumented rather than border security."

It would seem that there is an underlying assumption that legalization comes with no change in border security.



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Reply 23 - Posted by: mc squared, 2/6/2014 6:40:45 PM     (No. 9722371)

Not for a second. Otherwise, why so much deception and tap dancing from the Pubbies.

I don´t suppose it´s the election in 9 months.


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Reply 24 - Posted by: bpl40, 2/6/2014 6:41:40 PM     (No. 9722373)

The article says "legalization". There is no repeat NO mention of citizenship. The headline is spurious, deliberately misleading and politically motivated. Like everything CNN broadcasts.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: oldsfc, 2/6/2014 6:42:03 PM     (No. 9722374)

Credibility? We don´t need no steenking credibility.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: coppertop, 2/6/2014 6:44:45 PM     (No. 9722379)

Whoever the respondents are, they are clearly NOT residents of the border states, where people are afraid to stay in their ranch homes of several generations because of the flood of illegals - ARMED illegals - who come across their land. And they tear up fences, leave garbage everywhere, and in some very sad cases, die on the trek.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: GeelaBeela828, 2/6/2014 6:44:57 PM     (No. 9722380)

This is CNN: bullcrap.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: PI65, 2/6/2014 6:45:08 PM     (No. 9722381)

Ignore at our own peril. Many of us live in our own bubble.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: 901AtTheRiver, 2/6/2014 6:45:25 PM     (No. 9722382)

No. Just NO! I don´t believe anything coming from CNN. I don´t care how they report the results, I don´t believe the results reported have any correlation with national sentiment, nor does it have anything to do with the law. Under the law it is ILLEGAL to enter the US without proper credentials AND through an official portal.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: bighambone, 2/6/2014 6:46:49 PM     (No. 9722383)

An "international" poll such as this on an issue like illegal immigration and who the USA should allow to stay in the country is not worth the powder to blow itself up with. You could go and take this poll in ethnic communities that have large populations of illegal aliens and you would likely get even higher percentages of people who would want every illegal aliens, especially from their country of family origin to stay. People who support amnesty and essentially future "open borders" are not going to vote for the Republicans.

The Republicans should be looking out for Americans and especially American workers. They should not allow the liberal Democrats to push through a highly partisan amnesty bill that would hand them tens of millions of new foreign born voters in the years ahead or to flood the legal US job market with cheap foreign labor so that their labor union allies can unionize much of it in the future.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: ohyababy, 2/6/2014 6:54:13 PM     (No. 9722396)

Don´t believe the results of this poll - who paid for this poll, who did they actually poll and what did the questions actually say????

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Reply 32 - Posted by: lostinmassachusetts, 2/6/2014 6:54:56 PM     (No. 9722397)

Bogus poll for sure.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Axeman, 2/6/2014 6:57:52 PM     (No. 9722399)

#15 stated the poll question, Bogus, for sure.
Still the propaganda is out.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: MEMcL, 2/6/2014 7:12:31 PM     (No. 9722415)

And, now the campaign begins in earnest. "EVERYONE wants it, so why are the Republicans (Conservatives) blocking it"

Not only have I lost total faith in politicians and the Media (with very few exceptions), but I don´t trust polls anymore. They are used to influence public opinion, rather than to measure it. Manipulate. Manipulate. Manipulate!

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Reply 35 - Posted by: EnsignOToole, 2/6/2014 7:17:14 PM     (No. 9722421)

I agree with #1 - the poll was probably a push poll designed for a particular outcome. CNN has lost its credibility with me.



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Reply 36 - Posted by: lydwho, 2/6/2014 7:30:18 PM     (No. 9722433)

These Illegal immigrants have and have always had a pathway to citizenship in the United States.

All they have to do is return to their native land, clean up their act and apply to come here like all have before them.

They have committed a criminal act against the United States by sneaking across the border and the only way that they can correct this is to return and do it legally!!!

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Reply 37 - Posted by: Teleologicus, 2/6/2014 7:38:48 PM     (No. 9722443)

This is absurd and unbelievable.

Americans may not be all that bright -look who they elected president twice- but they are not as stupid as this poll makes them sound.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: MirJoy, 2/6/2014 8:03:08 PM     (No. 9722464)

On Glenn Beck´s a.m. show this morning, I believe it was Glenn gave a description of a different way to determine pro/con interest in a certain subject. I can only explain it badly, but rather than one thousand calls, there would be some way of determining positive or negative interest in a subject by figuring out how many hits or something a particular subject got.

So there would be no personal contact whatever, which would make it more objective and could allow many more people to be involved in the poll.

Maybe someone else heard the program and can explain it better than I or you could listen to archive. Anyway, it sounded like it would be much more accurate.

I think a lot of people of people are discounting polls pretty much anymore anyway.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 2/6/2014 8:41:45 PM     (No. 9722511)

Where did they take the poll ? Tijuana ?

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Reply 40 - Posted by: saguni, 2/6/2014 8:46:20 PM     (No. 9722521)

Poster #3 (along with #16 and #36) said: There is no RIGHT to be here, and being here illegally is a criminal offense.

I´ve been told that it is not a crime (felony) but merely a citation, like a parking violation.

What we need to do is convince the lo-fo voters that illegals receiving welfare (& SNAP & medicaid) takes the money away from them, that all the money comes from the "same account" and if there are more "illegal aliens" getting their money, they won´t be able to get "as much."

The poll numbers would reverse in a Manhattan minute.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: GreatPlains, 2/6/2014 10:48:49 PM     (No. 9722636)

The FOX poll of Jan 19-21 had larger percentages supporting a pathway to citizenship.

19-21 Jan 14

Send all back -15 %
Guest worker program 13 %
Pathway to Citizenship 68 %
Don´t Know 3%

The FOX poll results for pathway to citizenship have been
consistent at 66 % the past three years.
It´s jumped in 2014.


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Reply 42 - Posted by: Philipsonh, 2/7/2014 10:50:11 PM     (No. 9724003)

Confused News Network = CNN.

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Hi, everybody. For millions of Americans, this time of year holds great meaning. Earlier this week, we hosted a Passover Seder at the White House, and joined Jewish families around the world in their re-tellings of the story of the Exodus and the victory of faith over oppression. And this Sunday, Michelle, Malia, Sasha, and I will join our fellow Christians around the world in celebrating the Resurrection of Christ, the salvation he offered the world, and the hope that comes with the Easter season. These holy days have their roots in miracles that took place long ago. And yet, they still inspire us, guide us, and strengthen us today. They remind us of our

Harry Reid calls dissident Nevada ranchers
´domestic terrorists´ following show of
force against the federal government

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Daily Mail [UK], by David Martosko    Original Article
Posted By: Attercliffe- 4/19/2014 9:29:17 AM     Post Reply
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Thursday that a family of dissident ranchers and their supporters in his home state of Nevada are ´domestic terrorists,´ citing this week´s standoff with the federal government´s Bureau of Land Management. Cliven Bundy has refused to pay grazing fees for land where his hundreds of cattle roam every day. The land is owned by the federal government, which says he owes more than $1 million. Bundy, however, insists that since his family has been using the land since the 1870s, Uncle Sam can´t collect the grazing fees. A tense standoff developed this week after

Pelosi assists in Holy Week
foot-washing ritual

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San Francisco Chronicle, by Staff    Original Article
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To "honor the dignity and work of immigrants," Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi helps Bishop Marc Andrus wash the feet of two children Thursday at Saint John the Evangelist Episcopal Church in San Francisco. Pelosi also used the occasion to talk about passing HR15 - bipartisan immigration legislation that her office says would "reduce the deficit by nearly $1 trillion, secure our borders, unite our families, protect our workers and provide an earned pathway to citizenship." The Democratic leader´s ceremony coincides with Pope Francis´ similar ceremony in Rome to mark Holy Week.

Ted Cruz, Invoking Reagan,
Angers GOP Colleagues
but Wins Fans Elsewhere

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Wall Street Journal, by Monica Langley    Original Article
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WASHINGTON--Rushing to an afternoon vote last month, Sen. Ted Cruz hopped the underground tram to the U.S. Capitol from his office across the street. The Texan planted his black ostrich cowboy boots in the middle of the small subway car without getting so much as a nod from the other senators--Republican or Democrat--amiably chatting or huddled in their seats. Mr. Cruz finds himself standing alone a lot these days. His response to the cold shoulders: "The establishment despised Ronald Reagan" before he became president, "but the people loved him." For the 43-year-old Republican, the Reagan name illuminates his political life´s

Deadbeat on the Range
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New York Times, by Timothy Eagan    Original Article
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Imagine a vendor on the National Mall, selling burgers and dogs, who hasn’t paid his rent in 20 years. He refuses to recognize his landlord, the National Park Service, as a legitimate authority. Every court has ruled against him, and fines have piled up. What’s more, the effluents from his food cart are having a detrimental effect on the spring grass in the capital. Would an armed posse come to his defense, aiming their guns at the park police? Would the lawbreaker get prime airtime on Fox News, breathless updates in the Drudge Report, a sympathetic ear from Tea Party Republicans?

Ann Coulter takes up ‘Mitt
Romney for President’ chant again

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Washington Times, by Cheryl K. Chumley    Original Article
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Conservative columnist Ann Coulter — who used her talk show platform in the last presidential election cycle to campaign hard for former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney — has taken up the mantra once again, calling on Republicans to give the failed White House bidder another shot in 2016. She made the suggestion during a discussion on Sean Hannity’s radio show while speaking of her new book, “Never Trust a Liberal Over 3-Especially a Republican.” Ms. Coulter also addressed the question of Mr. Romney’s shortcomings by saying that his 2012 loss wasn’t entirely his fault. “I think too much blame, not only in this

You lie! Reporters accuse Obama
of deception, demagoguery just
to get attention

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Washington Examiner, by Paul Bedard    Original Article
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Prominent Washington correspondents are accusing President Obama and his aides of knowingly stretching the truth on issues like the so-called women´s pay gap just to create controversy and keep issues -- and the president -- relevant. Washington Post columnist Ruth Marcus kicked off the attack last week when she blasted as “demagoguery” the administration´s tactics during the pay gap debate. “The level of hyperbole -- actually, of demagoguery -- that Democrats have engaged in here is revolting,” she wrote. CBS White House Correspondent Major Garrett then weighed in this week in his National Journal


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