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IRS rules change seen as
limiting free speech for
nonprofit organizations

Washington Times, by Seth McLaughlin

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Posted By:Dreadnought, 1/30/2014 10:35:28 PM

Conservative groups are mounting a major resistance effort against the Internal Revenue Service’s post-tea party targeting scandal rules, which are designed to clamp down on outside groups’ ability to organize as nonprofits and still play a role in political conversations. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell fired a major shot Thursday, taking to the chamber floor to say the rules amount to a declaration of war on free speech and vowing the GOP will try to block them. “Every American needs to know about this abuse of power,” said Mr. McConnell, Kentucky Republican. “Let me be clear: What the administration is


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Reply 1 - Posted by: janylou, 1/30/2014 10:55:17 PM     (No. 9712610)

You think?!

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Reply 2 - Posted by: wsdiego, 1/30/2014 11:23:07 PM     (No. 9712630)

Liberal just can´t debate the issues! If they can´t dominate the speech they cry foul!

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Reply 3 - Posted by: twculver, 1/30/2014 11:36:52 PM     (No. 9712640)

There´s no point in complaining if you aren´t willing to fight when it matters Senator McConnell. The Dems know you will roll over for them so they do whatever they want.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Timber Queen, 1/31/2014 12:35:09 AM     (No. 9712669)

“Every American needs to know about this abuse of power,” said Mr. McConnell, Kentucky Republican. “Let me be clear: What the administration is proposing poses a grave threat to the ability of ordinary Americans to freely participate in the Democratic process.”

The Minority Leader must be feeling the heat coming from his challenger to fire this “major shot.” It might have had more impact if not for the use of the phrase, “Let me be clear,” which has become a “tell”, thanks to Obama, that what follows is meaningless and will not be acted upon.

Conservative groups should not go hat-in-hand to the lawless regime for permission to organize under the 501(c)(4) statute. Don’t identify yourself.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Spidey, 1/31/2014 2:01:47 AM     (No. 9712693)

There´s probably few things in life that get under Obama´s skin as much as the Citizen´s United case.These idiots go out here and attacking people´s political free speech,while allowing themselves full throttle fundraising and no red tape applications for their sub group.Organizing for action is probably the most corrupt,exploiting non profit there is,that breaks rules at every turn and you can rest assured they´ve been carved out of this action.

I really don´t get how a supposedly politically neutral office like the president can send special e mails to a special interest groups or attending their fundraising events.+

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Freeloader, 1/31/2014 7:06:16 AM     (No. 9712786)

"If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter."
-George Washington

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Reply 7 - Posted by: planetgeo, 1/31/2014 7:23:32 AM     (No. 9712795)

Things have reached a level where I no longer believe that the situation can be corrected by means of the ballot box. The Obamunists have hunkered down and are not budging. In fact, they are accelerating their deconstruction of all our constitutional protections. The empty mewlings of our totally impotent Republican Congress are not taken seriously and pose no threat whatsoever to Holder, Obama, Reid, Pelosi, etc.

I believe that the battle for America is nigh. The only question is when and where the final spark will ignite it.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: John c, 1/31/2014 7:24:07 AM     (No. 9712796)

Found this on Theblaze, by Mark Levin:
Levin urged the House to pass a resolution that includes language similar to this:

“Whereas the president of the United States has asserted executive powers not granted to him under the United States Constitution, the United States House of Representatives hereby asserts as an equal governing institution that all such acts by the president of the United States are null and void. The House of Representatives further asserts that no federal department, federal official or federal employee is authorized to appropriate any sum of taxpayer dollars in furtherance of any unconstitutional act by the president of the United States.”

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Buttercup82, 1/31/2014 8:04:18 AM     (No. 9712856)

With Mitch McConnell leading the charge, protecting our Freedom of Speech, I feel at ease...

For crying out loud, KY, please put a conservative in there this election!!

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Felixcat, 1/31/2014 8:11:42 AM     (No. 9712865)

Really Mitch? Haven´t heard much from you or your House counterpart, Boehner, on the abuses by the IRS against Tea Party groups. Oh wait, I remember, those Tea Party groups are those extremists within the GOP that you and Boehner, et al despise. And reallay, the US Chamber of (Crony) Commerce is not a non-profit so they can donate all they want to the likes of you.

Establishment GOP - some "alternative" to Obama and the Dems.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Blackeagle, 1/31/2014 8:49:44 AM     (No. 9712923)

The new ´weaponized´ IRS. One of the thuggish Boy King´s many odious tools.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 1/31/2014 8:50:20 AM     (No. 9712926)

I could only be so lucky to see the day the House defunds the IRS!

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Reply 13 - Posted by: chicodon, 1/31/2014 8:55:29 AM     (No. 9712938)

This still can be tracked back to Obama through IRS chief counsel William Wilkins. Remember, Obama met with him in the White House.

Wilkins is one of just two political appointees at the IRS, a generous donor to Democratic candidates and causes, and once represented Jeremiah Wright’s Trinity United Church of Christ.

This is actually a gag rule. But the IRS’s new speech restrictions do not apply to labor unions, trade associations, political parties, or other non-profit groups such as 501(c)(3)’s. The impact is limited to the 501(c)(4)’s, which are the favorite vehicle for Tea Party groups.

So the "golden rule" is still in play. He who has the gold makes the rules. The IRS gets caught so they change the rules. We are in a post constitutional era.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: timmartus, 1/31/2014 9:12:40 AM     (No. 9712976)

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Reply 15 - Posted by: timmartus, 1/31/2014 9:13:41 AM     (No. 9712977)

It is a fundamental question. If you meet the requirements (and there are many) to be tax exempt, why should there be a threat of losing the exemption for daring to have an opinion about the source of taxation?

Members of a education, social, medical, or religious group already pay taxes (lets pretend that´s a requirement for being a citizen). So why is it that those same people, gather in a group, and aren´t extraordinarily happy with the people in charge?

BAMMO! We must punish you with taxation. Why? Because it´s a hinderance? Because you know it´s a threat? Because you know it could stop such speech? Isn´t THAT revealing!

The government does NOT subsidize us.
We subsidize the government.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Ida Lou Pino, 1/31/2014 9:25:57 AM     (No. 9712993)

Mean Man Mitch strikes again!

Whenever Mean Man goes on the warpath - - stand back! There´s going to be hell to pay - - butts kicked - - and names taken!

At least until the Pubbie primary in Kentucky is over. Then it´s back to Milquetoast Mitch and The Rollovers.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: suedotsue, 1/31/2014 9:27:43 AM     (No. 9712997)

This has nothing to do with the IRS, it´s merely a McConnell act because he´s facing an election. And media are helping him sell it. When it mattered he did nothing. In June 2013 in pubic comments he clearly signaled the IRS scandal was over, that people should move on and look at the big picture. Obama did the GOP a great favor by letting the IRS impede the Tea Party. McConnell can only hope the interference continues forever.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Cavallodifiero, 1/31/2014 11:27:17 AM     (No. 9713167)

The focus should be on getting rid of the IRS which is turning into a thug squad, put in a flat tax monitored by a smaller group and be done with the whole brown shirt mentality supported by whoever is in charge at the moment.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Butch59, 1/31/2014 11:52:42 AM     (No. 9713199)

#7 is correct. We have reach the point that elections are moot. Despite the addition of a number of conservatives to the House in 2010, the establishment GOP has gone overboard to get rid of them. So, where is the cohesion needed to fight against the lawlessness of the Dims? Those like Mitchell and Boehner simply want to maintain their own little corner of power and not have anyone rock their boat. And the only reason that Boehner showed a little bit of strength in the past is the fact that a number of those conservatives were making noise about removing him from the Speakership.

I´m still waiting for another shot that will be heard around the world.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: 4Justice, 1/31/2014 12:48:30 PM     (No. 9713270)

Who wants to organize an underground spy network? I think we should get a bunch of us to infiltrate all these organizations on the left and break them as well as expose them from the inside out. Anyone up for it??

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Reply 21 - Posted by: peterfleming, 1/31/2014 1:31:24 PM     (No. 9713306)

Which Death Threat is always on top of the Deaath Threat List? The IRS is always tops!
The FDA, various unions, lobbyists, so many more, but nobody in Washington will utter a meaningful word or revelation about the IRS.
That´s it. And damn few will ever talk about actually removing the IRS, the Epartment of Education, so many brutal force drive aspects, needless aspects of our government. At least, more people are talking about it, even thoguh timidly.
For example, queswtioning the abuse of authority by the IRS has never been as popular as it is now. That´s a good start.

People actually leaving one tyrannically run state like New York or Californai, to go to a no tax state is a terrific new topic for discussion. The Rick Perrys and the Scott Walkers, LePage there are many good stories in the works, thanks to the internet and no censoring of truth.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: merrijane, 1/31/2014 1:36:14 PM     (No. 9713311)

No issue advocacy allowed? So would that extend to church´s who advocate against gay marriage, or only other non-profits?

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Reply 23 - Posted by: lencu255, 1/31/2014 3:05:30 PM     (No. 9713413)

When are they (obozo´s cabal) going to charge us for our posts? All in all, we didn´t build the Internet, right?
On a more sinister note: all of us are already in fascist/commie database anyway. Even if we elect conservatives, the bureaucrats (who are predominantly leftist radicals) will keep it for a rainy day.
We need a conservatives who will be bold enough to break this fascist/commie conspiracy.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: jhboatwright, 1/31/2014 4:19:26 PM     (No. 9713528)

"IRS rules change seen as limiting free speech for nonprofit organizations"

I assume that these new Rules affect almost all non-Moslem Religious Organizations.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: jhboatwright, 1/31/2014 4:28:14 PM     (No. 9713542)

We shoulda stuck with George III.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Cavallodifiero, 1/31/2014 5:37:23 PM     (No. 9713651)

We don´t need George the Third we have Barak the terd.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: oldvlc, 1/31/2014 7:35:53 PM     (No. 9713852)

The fact that Hollywood bankrolled Terry McAuliffe in Virginia makes me think there might be some merit to this, but since the IRS is behind it I don´t know. Cuccinelli, a fantastic conservative who brought the first lawsuit against Obamacare could not compete with the super millions that actors poured into Virginia. But there is nothing the IRS does that is not biased so I guess there should be outrage.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: LC HOGHEAD, 1/31/2014 8:38:53 PM     (No. 9713905)

0bamas plan is WORKING

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Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/14/2014 12:49:12 PM     Post Reply
A Russian fighter jet made multiple, close-range passes near an American warship in the Black Sea for more than 90 minutes Saturday amid escalating tensions in the region, a U.S. military official said Monday. In the first public account of the incident, the official said the Russian Fencer flew within 1,000 yards of the USS Donald Cook, a Navy destroyer, at about 500 feet above sea level. Ship commanders considered the actions provocative and inconsistent with international agreements, prompting the ship to issue several radio queries and warnings. The fighter appeared to be unarmed and never was in danger of

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