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EPA proposes restrictions for
new wood stoves

Associated Press, by Staff

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Posted By:JoniTx, 1/7/2014 12:32:47 PM

FAIRBANKS, Alaska – The federal Environmental Protection Agency has proposed new standards for wood stoves that would reduce the maximum amount of fine particulate emissions allowed for new stoves sold in 2015 and 2019. Maximum emissions would be reduced by one-third next year and by 80 percent in five years, the Fairbanks Daily News-Miner reported. Fine particulate pollution is made up of solid particles and liquid droplets that measure 2.5 micrometers in diameter or less. The EPA currently certifies non-catalytic wood stoves if they produce less than 7.5 grams of fine particulate per hour. Fine particulate absorbed by breathing has


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Reply 1 - Posted by: SpeedMaster, 1/7/2014 12:35:28 PM     (No. 9683138)

If they are to this point their job must be done, defund and shut this monster down.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Country Boy, 1/7/2014 12:44:37 PM     (No. 9683151)

"EPA estimates that for every dollar spent to comply with these standards, the American public will see between $118 and $267 in health benefits...The total health and economic benefits of the proposed standards are estimated to be at $1.8 (billion) to $2.4 billion annually"

EPA must have an internal handbook which teaches bureaucrats how to blithely pull numbers out of the air, with zero documentation.

´sides, many people find wood stoves very relaxing. I think the new EPA standards will cause a dramatic rise in heart attacks and strokes.

My estimate is that for every dollar spent to comply with these standards, the American public will see a rise in health care costs between $118 and $267 ...I estimate the total health and economic cost of the proposed standards to be at $1.8 (billion) to $2.4 billion annually.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 1/7/2014 12:55:18 PM     (No. 9683163)


Just haul yer happyazz down here to Texas and tell all these rural folks who live in the woods that you want to get all up into the details of their wood stoves.

Mine BTW is over a hundred years old, made of crazy thick cast iron and it works great.

Perhaps THIS will start the revolution.

Maybe not but get on down here and let´s give it a go.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: varkdriver, 1/7/2014 12:57:53 PM     (No. 9683168)

Hey, EPA idiots, molon labe!!!

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Flagstone, 1/7/2014 12:59:11 PM     (No. 9683171)

Does a wood smoker or grill count as a "stove". Is this the war on BBQ?

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Polecat49, 1/7/2014 1:01:08 PM     (No. 9683173)

Once again an agency of the U, S, government shows its HATRED for the American People. I guess that is just happens when an agency hires every Anti-American karl Marxist American Hating craphead it can find.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: mamafrog, 1/7/2014 1:02:27 PM     (No. 9683175)

Read the article, these regulations are for new stoves and do not affect the ones in use. If you want an unregulated stove go and get one now before the regulations can be put into effect. If everyone in the cities used a wood stove we would have problems.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: uno, 1/7/2014 1:03:37 PM     (No. 9683176)

This is the new communism of unnecessary, over-reaching, over-bearing, high-handed, autocratic laws and regulation that not even the old-school Communists could dream up!

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Reply 9 - Posted by: melman, 1/7/2014 1:12:26 PM     (No. 9683183)

Restrictions that will virtually be impossible to meet. They regulate old stove use by prohibiting using your stove on specific no-burn days. Is it just coincidence the no burn days are becoming more and more frequent?

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Country Boy, 1/7/2014 1:25:58 PM     (No. 9683192)

#7, no they will get it included into the building codes. I you have an old stove, you won´t be able to see your house until to get rid of it. Same with new kitchen appliances.

Communism/Fascism sucks, 24X7.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: mickturn, 1/7/2014 1:29:34 PM     (No. 9683195)

I intend to fully comply with the regulation to limit "Fine particulate pollution is made up of solid particles and liquid droplets that measure 2.5 micrometers in diameter or less."

The way I will do it is to burn only rolled up EPA Regulations.

They wouldn´t print their stuff on polution-paper would they?

I´ll have an endless supply of fuel.


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Reply 12 - Posted by: Coy860, 1/7/2014 1:36:41 PM     (No. 9683199)

The EPA has too darn much power to regulate.
Congress sits by while it becomes more irrelevant by the day.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: ScarletPimpernel, 1/7/2014 1:41:24 PM     (No. 9683207)

Excellent question, #9.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Redneck In NY, 1/7/2014 1:48:51 PM     (No. 9683215)

Its because people in the cities don´t use wood stoves that makes this ridiculous, #7. Such a small percentage of Americans use wood stoves exclusively for heat that it makes you wonder why the hell the EPA is even bothering. Maybe one of the enviro-nazis at the EPA has a neighbor with a wood stove and he/she has the power to stop it by God!

What next? Fireplaces, grills, candles? Don´t you see, it never stops with these types. Their lust for power and control knows no end.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: trackman999, 1/7/2014 1:51:23 PM     (No. 9683220)

The govt does not want the people to have the ability to provide their own energy for heat and cooking. They want everyone to be dependent on the govt for everything.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: oh-heck, 1/7/2014 1:54:44 PM     (No. 9683227)

Yes, the ultimate goal is to prevent the use of wood stoves, fire places, barbeque pits, etc. States like NH and Oregon are already started down that path. If the EPA backs down, they will lose their ability to force states to reduce emissions by 50 to 70% with the Cross State Pollution rules.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Periwinkel, 1/7/2014 1:56:45 PM     (No. 9683229)

#7 & #9 Heard on the radio this morning charcoal and gas grills are included in the new regulations...they are just not being publicized. That could be the tipping point.

While I was reading the comments here on this page one of those annoying ads popped up...it was for wood burning stoves!

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Reply 18 - Posted by: slab, 1/7/2014 1:59:58 PM     (No. 9683230)

I see this as a new tax, because stove manufacturers will probably be required to pay for govt. certification/registration, likely on a $$$/per unit basis.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Country Boy, 1/7/2014 2:00:47 PM     (No. 9683233)

#17 - the EPA is gonna bury Weber Grills?

Talk about getting out the pitchforks.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Highvoltage, 1/7/2014 2:02:16 PM     (No. 9683236)

This is Nazi like liberal fascists run amok. We need to cut their budget to zero now and eliminate the EPA altogether.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Philipsonh, 1/7/2014 2:10:07 PM     (No. 9683241)

The EPA should consider a project that would stop lighting from starting forest fires. I am sure these fires cause far more pollution than all the wood stoves in the U>S> combined. On the other hand, maybe asking China to agree to shut down all their factories would accomplish the same goal. better yet, shut down the EPA, because they are the greatest polluter, of
mis-truths. ( My opinion ). along with the Dept of the Interior, with their (save the
"whatever" mantra) causing chaos in many sectors.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: BaseballFan, 1/7/2014 2:21:38 PM     (No. 9683252)

100% unelected.
100% unaccountable.

That´s the EPA.

"The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen."
-- Dennis Prager

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Iraengneer, 1/7/2014 2:38:12 PM     (No. 9683264)

for all of the RINO apologists out there, the ones who post here that we just *must* be "broken glass" voters for ANY doofus with an (R) after the name, please remember this and similar matters
the EPA was established via one of those "stroke of a pen, law of the land" diktats by a Statist Republican, Richard Nixon.
Was it abolished by the next Republican prez, Ford? no
Was it abolished by the next Republican prez, Reagan? no
Was it abolished by the next Republican prez, Bush ´41? no
Was it abolished by the next Republican prez, Bush ´43? no
anyone think that Dole, or McCain, or Romney would have, had they been elected? not likely.
How about any of the ones being touted by the RNC insiders - Christie, for example? not too bloody likely
do NOT move to defund this atrocity. It needs to be **abolished**, ripped out by the roots, fire all the bureaucrats, demolish the buildings, throw every single one of their regs, back to Day 1, into the non-carbon-capture incinerator.
oh, and we need to know the names, the specific names with pictures, of the worthless bums who are proposing this particular idiocy. It will make the public floggings easier to arrange.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: snowoutlaw, 1/7/2014 3:33:48 PM     (No. 9683328)

Most homes around Lake Tahoe have already had to rip out their stoves and switch to 100% electric, gas or oil. I was lucky, it was a new stove but won´t be new now. Can´t sell with old stoves that heat better than the new ones.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Mass Minority, 1/7/2014 4:53:30 PM     (No. 9683412)

The worst part of this stry is the justification of intrusive regulation of these stoves by equating dollars spent on the regulation to dollars saved in health care.

I have warned since day one that Obamacares most destructive pathology would be this use of "health care savings" to justify control of every activity known to man. Once gov money s used to "pay" for healthcare absolutely any activity that could be shown to insignificantly effect health would become the governments responsibility.

Smoking was low hanging fruit, now its wood burning. Coal generation is justified by lung disease, automobile use will be a big target. As will all manner of physical activities.

A few things will remain sacred, for now, Alcohol consumption, legal marijuana, unfettered promiscous sex, that kind of thing, but everything else....

Every alphabet NGO is just drooling at the endless opportunities to "save on healthcare costs" by endless regulation.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: NorthernDog, 1/7/2014 5:15:57 PM     (No. 9683425)

I hope it´s not against the law to say this, but I kinda like seeing smoke pouring from a home´s chimney on a cold winter´s day. Makes me think it´s warm and cozy inside.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Bur Oak, 1/7/2014 7:53:34 PM     (No. 9683556)

Go to Junkscience.com and read the study on particulates and then send it to your congress critter and demand that this EPA regulation be stopped.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 1/7/2014 10:33:58 PM     (No. 9683671)

If We had elected Rick Perry, the EPA would be gone.

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Glen Campbell has been suffering from Alzheimer´s for over three years, but the Grammy-winning singer, 78, has recently moved into a facility, PEOPLE has confirmed. "He was moved to an Alzhemier´s facility last week," says a family friend. "I´m not sure what the permanent plan is for him yet. We´ll know more next week." The "Rhinestone Cowboy" crooner first opened up about having Alzheimer´s to PEOPLE in an exclusive 2011 interview. Campbell and his fourth wife, Kim Woolen, decided to go public with the news because Campbell hoped to embark on a final farewell live tour. The couple wanted his

Even Hillary Clinton Isn’t Sure What
We Should Like About Hillary Clinton

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PJ Media, by Stephen Kruiser    Original Article
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The first step is admitting… It was a simple question to someone accustomed to much tougher ones: What was her proudest achievement as secretary of state? But for a moment, Hillary Rodham Clinton, appearing recently before a friendly audience at a women’s forum in Manhattan, seemed flustered.(Snip)So…no definitive successes and some clear-cut failures. And that’s the generous New York Times assessment. The Democrat fantasy story about Mrs. Clinton paints her as strong and accomplished on her own. In reality, this is a woman who is professionally defined almost entirely by two men in her life, both of whom happen to have

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