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What to Do When
ObamaCare Unravels

Wall Street Journal, by John H. Cochrane

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Posted By:StormCnter, 12/26/2013 5:31:46 AM

The unraveling of the Affordable Care Act presents a historic opportunity for change. Its proponents call it "settled law," but as Prohibition taught us, not even a constitutional amendment is settled law—if it is dysfunctional enough, and if Americans can see a clear alternative. This fall´s website fiasco and policy cancellations are only the beginning. Next spring the individual mandate is likely to unravel when we see how sick the people are who signed up on exchanges, and if our government really is going to penalize voters for not buying health insurance. The employer mandate and "accountable care organizations" will take


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Reply 1 - Posted by: ruready?, 12/26/2013 7:32:46 AM     (No. 9668020)

I will celebrate - but may we never forget.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Poobah, 12/26/2013 8:04:46 AM     (No. 9668063)

This article seems to be saying that ObamaCare is not viable and that a return to the old system is not the best we can do. Sure we need to sweep away ObamaCare, but instead of returning to our flawed previous system, we might as well build a better structure on the rubble that ObamaCare has left us with.

I’m pretty sure that Ted Cruz is working days, nights and weekends to design that new system which will replace our old with “something of value.” I can’t wait to see what he has in mind.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: MirJoy, 12/26/2013 8:11:43 AM     (No. 9668069)

Question: What are we going to do when Immigration Reform unravels? Everyone - even those in the business community who will benefit so much from "immigration reform" - knows that the whole middle-class economy is going to crater when Congress declares amnesty for 20 million+ illegal aliens and gives green cards to trained technicians who will work for far less than U.S. citizens.

Can we please focus on scrapping ObamaCare and bring back the best of what we had before - which was a lot - before we hop, skip and jump to "Immigration Reform".

I don´t understand why these brainiacs at the WSJ are not concerned about the unraveling of ordinary Americans´ lives.

Too much greed - that´s all.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: bigfatslob, 12/26/2013 8:21:53 AM     (No. 9668080)

What boggled my mind is the sheer stupidity of this gaggle of lawmakers (congress).
Anyone could see the sheer size of the ACA should have spurred all to read it. Who wrote the monstrosity? A speaker of the house so dumb and holding a Fred Flintstone size gavel saying you have to sign the bill to see what´s in it was laughable and an intelligent person with a brain cell in his/her head should have challenged that dumb statement.
There were too many signs to walk away from this train wreck with the expense the taxpayers have spent or the party of communist democrats and the cabal in the White House have stolen for cronies is unbelievable. More will be spent/stolen before this is over and people lost their old affordable coverage and deductibles along with their doctors to arrive at this.
If people arrive in Washington with intelligence they sure lose it fast after they get there.
The ACA should never have been law and thank you John Roberts, you black robe wearing weasel.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: nycvoter, 12/26/2013 8:28:37 AM     (No. 9668088)

It´s very simple what to do. First of all health insurance or co-pays or deductibles should be deductable for anyone and everyone. If you are a worker in a factory and only pay $100 a month to your employer it should be deductible along with doctor visits, medicines, deductibles, any out of pocket expense, etc. This should go for anyone who spends a dime on health insurance. Why? Because every responsible person who pays is saving the taxpayers money. Let all insurance companies compete across state lines. Ban all mandated coverage by any state. NY mandates all kinds of types of coverage driving up the cost. Tort reform. Let doctors deduct lost wages when they reduce their services to help the community. These ideas would do a hell of a lot more good than the sickening obamacare.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: franq, 12/26/2013 8:31:28 AM     (No. 9668092)

Settled law. Settled science. The image of a septic tank comes to mind.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: jackburton, 12/26/2013 8:35:01 AM     (No. 9668098)

This is the article I´ve been waiting for on health care. FTA: We do not have such health insurance only because it was regulated out of existence. RIGHT! Returning to what we have/had is not a solution although it is better than an Obamacare world. Transparency in fees, competition of services (supply side anyone?) and personal insurance that you carry with you are all market solutions that THIS market wants. I would add that I get the choice of coverage I want and need. At 62 I don´t need coverage for pediatrics... and as a male... mammograms are out. Further, let me ´take my chances´ on drug addiction counseling, OK? (hahaha)

No... this article hits all the right points. Great choice for must read.

BTW...if it´s me that is paying for the care, what is the effect of immigration? They either aren´t covered or they´re paying customers, too. Dunno where that other comment is coming from.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: 3XALADY, 12/26/2013 8:50:06 AM     (No. 9668112)

There were ´gaps in coverage?´ What about Medicaid and free care in the hospital ERs for the uninsured?

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Udanja99, 12/26/2013 8:50:10 AM     (No. 9668113)

Good article but I must disagree with one statement...the bill wasn´t enacted in response to genuine problems. By law no one can be refused medical care. The bill was enacted as a mega power grab for the demoncrat party. They thought they had another Great Society style scam which would insure (pun intended) voter loyalty and their own political dominance for eternity...

Instead of, "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan", what they were aiming for was, "If you want that life saving procedure, you´ll vote democrat". (And the NSA will verify your vote for us)

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Reply 10 - Posted by: WAN2, 12/26/2013 8:58:46 AM     (No. 9668124)

A people entirely hostile to (and ignorant of) free market capitalism are locked into their fate.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: MattMusson, 12/26/2013 9:02:11 AM     (No. 9668129)

The collapse of ObamaCare means the collapse of the Health Insurance Industry. That, in turn, means ratcheting up the Pain Level for average Americans.

Francis Gianfrocca of Coffee and Markets recently revealed that his wealthy friends are worried that pushing down on the middle class will eventually force people to a place where they will no longer yield.

At that point, the wealthy fear a French Revolution Scenario in the USA.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Avogadra, 12/26/2013 9:15:58 AM     (No. 9668145)

For those who didn´t read the article, it´s not about immigration reform or returning to what we had before. Here´s a paragraph:

Health insurance should be individual, portable across jobs, states and providers; lifelong and guaranteed-renewable, meaning you have the right to continue with no unexpected increase in premiums if you get sick. Insurance should protect wealth against large, unforeseen, necessary expenses, rather than be a wildly inefficient payment plan for routine expenses.

The author also suggests that abolition of strangling rules that protect insurance companies, hospitals and health care professionals from competition will encourage business participants in the system to bring efficiency, lower costs and innovation.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Arby, 12/26/2013 9:23:50 AM     (No. 9668157)

What to do? Tattoo on the forehead of every dim: "I supported this dog´s breakfast, though I hadn´t read it and I didn´t care how much pain it caused."

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Philipsonh, 12/26/2013 10:19:01 AM     (No. 9668206)

No Congressperson should be allowed to vote on a bill that 1)he/she has not read and 2) he/she does not understand. Anything less is
a disgrace to the Country. Every vote should be preceded by a written validation of these two actions. Regarding the ACA law, certain people in Congress stated they had not read the bill, nor if they had, they would not understand it. Is this the type of democracy we wish to have ? I sincerely doubt that a single person in Congress had read the ACA bill before voting. Folks, the people representing us do not function on behalf
of the majority of Americans.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: MirJoy, 12/26/2013 10:22:18 AM     (No. 9668209)

#8 j.b. - If it happens, there´ll be a lot, lot more people collapsing our healthcare system.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: F16 guy, 12/26/2013 10:38:05 AM     (No. 9668227)

#12 is close to correct.

The ACA is NOT about healthcare ! Its about politics and controlling YOUR life even more.

It´s about collapsing the system so single payer becomes mandatory.

If anyone was interested in "fixing" the problem, this article tells how: private enterprise.

If this is about politics, do you think politicians will fix the problem ?

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Reply 17 - Posted by: mamafrog, 12/26/2013 10:50:03 AM     (No. 9668242)

I do believe that if both sides worked together we could come up with a workable health care system. If you have looked at insurance claims it is apparent that the entire system is broken. I have seen many huge bills in the last year. It is not unusual for the insurance company to write down what they will pay and the provider will accept by 75%. I am aware that if I did not have insurance I would be sued for the entire amount. It is time to realize that we are paying the salaries of ARMIES of adjustors, agents, clerks and lawyers with our current system. These people are not providing health care to anyone and I am tired of subsidizing them.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Hobbiest, 12/26/2013 11:00:14 AM     (No. 9668255)

Sometime next summer a bill will be signed into law that fixes Obamacare. That´s what the media will tell us it does. Only it won´t be a fix. It will gut the bill entirely and replace it with a system similar to what Cochrane outlines. Those generic ballot numbers are scaring the daylights out of the Democrats but they will also want to save Obama´s face. Only the lo-infos will buy that it is still Obamacare after the "fix" but that will be enough cover for the Democrats to go along.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: M2, 12/26/2013 11:36:31 AM     (No. 9668328)

Only deregulation can unleash competition. And only disruptive competition, where new businesses drive out old ones, will bring efficiency, lower costs and innovation.

Amen, Brother. While there will always be a market for the mom-and-pop businesses, there is nothing that prohibits "moms and pops" with proper credentials from opening private practice hospitals and paying clinics.

Hundreds of thousands of us had such neighborhood doctors´ offices but lost them when hospitals became bureaucratic nightmares that swallowed them up. I´d give anything to get my family doctor´s office back but he had no choice but to either have pencil-pushers telling him how to run his office or retire. He chose the latter.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: RancherJack, 12/26/2013 11:38:28 AM     (No. 9668336)

But does the IRS know and acknowledge ObamaCare is going away ..?

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Reply 21 - Posted by: NotaBene, 12/26/2013 12:43:54 PM     (No. 9668456)

Obamacare will not go away while Communist-Democrats hold power. It is just too beneficial for their Illegal alien voters-to-be.

Health Savings accounts, Health Insurance across state borders, limit Junk Lawsuits. Improve a little emergency rooms and county hospitals for the parasitical classes. That will go a long way.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Butch59, 12/26/2013 12:48:29 PM     (No. 9668462)

Reading this article points out how the federal government has, over time, just about destroyed the capitalist system this country enjoyed in the past. I realize that some regulation must be in place to prevent the rise of robber barons we saw in the 19th century. But, that was pretty much successful but the feds went WAY overboard. They began to see how rules and regulations can be a very large lever in the money of politics. As such, and tremendous about of rules and regs were written to favor certain companies and persons that would favor certain politicians. Nice scheme if you can get away with it. And they have. Now, Obozocare has come along and opened the Pandora´s box of what has been going on for decades. And the American people are beginning to realize just how they have been bamboozled.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: MirJoy, 12/26/2013 12:55:24 PM     (No. 9668474)

#8 - j.b. - What I am trying to say is that should the 20+ million illegal aliens be given amnesty then they will more than likely end up on Medicaid and so, in addition to your own healthcare, you´ll be paying for their care as well through your taxes (I think it is part of their planned expansion of Medicaid to make it explode.)

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Reply 24 - Posted by: OhMy, 12/26/2013 3:36:12 PM     (No. 9668623)

Along with the other free market solutions I would add that an important driver of costs is the reasonable provision of patent law that natural remedies cannot be patented. I would not change this but we must understand that this has resulted in many good treatments being sidelined, even though they are cheap and effective, because establishment medicine dismisses them as "Anecdotal" just because nobody will do scientific studies on something they cannot patent. If you have enough anecdotal support it is as good as a fact. The FDA should not be able to prevent the use of natural treatments which an educated patient wants especially if everyone admits it is not toxic. The Cancer industry drives clinics to mexico by withholding non toxic natural treatments, many of which show real promise, and continuing to Cut, Poison and Burn ( Surgery, Chemotherapy, and Radiation ) The war on Cancer is a big business Quagmire. Billions have been wasted the the death rates are going up. It may be profitable for some in big pharma but it is not effective. Stop the revolving door between big pharma and the FDA regulatory agency. Cancer is not the only example of this but it is the biggest one. The corrupt government regulatory chokehold, driven by big pharma money is a major source of medical costs.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 12/26/2013 9:55:57 PM     (No. 9668975)

Yes, yes, yes! All good, excellent, marvelous ideas on how to now get a great health care industry. Unfortunately, the only problem is pandering Democrat politicians who keep offering "Free" everything in life to the low info types who vote. Stop that first- then you might get something done.

Nothing in this great idea collection will ever get through this or any other so-called "Democracy".

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Sulaco, 12/26/2013 10:57:25 PM     (No. 9669001)

I Really - Really hope I am wrong but:
I have to wonder, if nothing is done then when the employer mandate kids in, in 2014 the worst case scenario is that 100 million people will lose their health care..(plus the 5 million that are already kicked to the curb by Obama), if so then a “small percentage” will die because of the loss of said care. That “small percentage” will translate into thousands if not hundreds of thousands of deaths from the actions of Obama and the Dems. How will they not be spoken of in history in the same breath as Pol Pot and Stalin, Himmler etc. Oh, junior partners for sure but still I would think in the top ten killers in history. Correct me if I am wrong…

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Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/15/2014 6:12:53 PM     Post Reply
Casual marijuana use may come with some not-so-casual side effects. For the first time ever, researchers at Northwestern University have analyzed the relationship between casual use of marijuana and brain changes – and found that young adults who used cannabis just once or twice a week showed significant abnormalities in two important brain structures. The study’s findings, to be published Wednesday in the Journal of Neuroscience, are similar to those of past research linking chronic, long-term marijuana use with mental illness and changes in brain development. Dr. Hans Breiter, co-senior study author, said he was inspired to look at the effects of casual

Atlanta Braves flooded with Hank
Aaron hate mail: He’s a ‘s*****g’

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Washington Times (D.C.), by Cheryl K. Chumley    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/15/2014 3:23:19 PM     Post Reply
Hank Aaron’s recent comments about the need for America to realize that racism is still very much alive and thriving — only now due to those who wear “neckties and starched shirts” rather than KKK hoods — has sparked an angry backlash and many fans are turning the tables, calling the baseball legend himself a racist. “Hank Aaron is a s*****g piece of [expletive] [racial slur],” one man said in an email to the Atlanta Braves’ front office, one of the teams Mr. Aaron used to play for, CBS News reported. “My old man instilled in my mind from a

White is not right: Campus admins ask
for help weeding out white people

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Daily Caller, by Robby Soave    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/15/2014 7:47:18 PM     Post Reply
Western Washington University sent a questionnaire to students asking them for advice on how the administration could succeed at making sure that in future years, “we are not as white as we are today.” The question notes that WWU’s racial make up does not perfectly reflect the nation at large, and asks students to consider strategies that other universities have used to focus on skin color as the paramount indicator of a student-applicant’s worth. The president of WWU has stated that his explicit goal is to reduce the white population on campus, according to Campus Reform. “I’ve said before and I’ll say it

If a nuclear bomb exploded in downtown
Washington, what should you do?

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The Week, by Marc Ambinder    Original Article
Posted By: MissMolly- 4/15/2014 4:51:46 AM     Post Reply
Funny question in the headline, yes? But since President Obama worries more about the threat of terrorists´ improvised nuclear device going off in a major American city than anything Russia can throw at us, I was wondering if the government had deigned to share with us citizens any tips for, you know, surviving something their own intelligence points to as the likeliest unlikely Black Swan event. Well, no. And yes. No — very few people in Washington, D.C., who work for the government have any idea what they would do if a 10-kiloton nuclear device exploded at the intersection of 16th and K

Which Actor Portrays The
Best James Bond?

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American Spectator, by Jonah Goldberg and Taki Theodoracopulos    Original Article
Posted By: Drive- 4/16/2014 11:20:22 AM     Post Reply
Look, everyone loves Sean Connery, particularly Sean Connery. That’s why he plays Sean Connery in every movie he’s in. People love that Scottish brogue so much, they don’t mind that he has it when he plays Juan Sánchez Villa-Lobos Ramírez, an immortal Spaniard in Highlander. The guy even won an Oscar for playing an Irish cop with a Scottish accent. Talk about sexist double standards: Meryl Streep has to master foreign dialects to get her golden statuettes. Connery just has to show up on time. In economics you devalue a currency by printing too much of it. In film you

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