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AP: Military Personnel Make Enough
Money to Survive Pension Cuts

Breitbart´s Big Government, by AWR Hawkins

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Posted By:mikkins2, 12/24/2013 9:56:02 AM

With veterans´ groups fighting against cuts in military pensions, the Associated Press (AP) is out with a story suggesting that in light of active duty military pay, healthcare, and "quality of life" benefits, retiring military personnel should be able to the weather the cuts that Congressman Paul Ryan (R-WI) has pushed through. According to the AP, "compensation" for active duty military "is competitive with the private sector." They try to bolster this point by showing that "an Army private with fewer than two years of service and no dependents earns on average about $40,000 annually." Later in the paragraph they clarify that

The Associated Press is saying that Veterans are living too high on the hog after giving their lives over for 20 plus years service and apparently Paul Ryan agrees with them.


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Doctor P, 12/24/2013 10:09:03 AM     (No. 9666577)

see if the press guild wants to have their pensions cut

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Reply 2 - Posted by: QRP, 12/24/2013 10:15:31 AM     (No. 9666589)

I have not idea why anyone would go into the military these days. They see how we let our allies down and they can be certain we will let them down.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: mickturn, 12/24/2013 10:21:11 AM     (No. 9666601)

An army private w/2 years DOES NOT make $40,000, they make far less.

They LIE, just like Libs they can´t help themselves!

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Reply 4 - Posted by: bighambone, 12/24/2013 10:30:07 AM     (No. 9666611)

Retired veterans do not draw active duty pay, they draw their vested military pensions that the politicians are now cutting. There is a big difference.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 12/24/2013 10:31:16 AM     (No. 9666616)

Any two-bit, tin-horn, dictator will tell you that when you lose the support of the military then you risk losing your position (and perhaps your life) should the situation devolve into fighting in the streets.

Each and every wretched move Zippy has made to degrade and humiliate and de-friend the military has also served to erode his power base. His REAL power base.

I hope he continues to over-play his hand.


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Reply 6 - Posted by: Cor-vet, 12/24/2013 10:34:31 AM     (No. 9666624)

$40,000 is probably what a single, lay-about baby factory, claiming minimum wage and getting everything free, makes with her ´earned income credit!´

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Reply 7 - Posted by: fhancock, 12/24/2013 10:35:07 AM     (No. 9666626)

There won´t be an "All Volunteer Force" if there are no volunteers...I suppose a country is what its priorities are...50 % of the Sequester cuts came from DOD which makes up 17% of the Federal Budget...now this "well military retirees don´t need that money that was promised them" says quite a bit about taking care of people who have had 3 to 4 overseas deployments in dangerous crapholes...sort of makes you want to vomit

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Udanja99, 12/24/2013 10:37:44 AM     (No. 9666636)

Even if it were remotely true that veterans made enough to survive pension cuts, cutting their pensions is still a heinous act. It´s the principle of the thing. They risk their lives for the good of the rest of us.

Notice we are not cutting benefits for welfare bums and illegal invaders who not only risk nothing, but steal from those of us who make this country work.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: JimS, 12/24/2013 10:39:51 AM     (No. 9666638)

Meanwhile, AP is supporting raising the minimum wage to $15/hr for burger flippers, who will then earn $31,000/yr--with little/no education or training, nearly no responsibilities, and no risk of active service.

I would have to think that the AP writers are overpaid by at least a factor of 2, based on their stupidity in writing articles like this and their perpetual undying support for Obama

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Coy860, 12/24/2013 10:48:58 AM     (No. 9666654)

My spouse went in (in the dark ages) when the minimum wage was 1.00 an hour. He was paid 53 cents. For that privilege he got to sit dead in the water off the coast of Cuba during the Cuban missle crisis.
After that, he was given a fancy tour of Viet Nam, breathing in Agent Orange, followed by SEVEN tours of the Med, away from family 7 months of the year. He had a contract with the government, and he honored his contract and served 22 years.
Too bad the Obama government does not honor theirs!

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Reply 11 - Posted by: bighambone, 12/24/2013 10:54:14 AM     (No. 9666672)

Unfortunately the politicians who are for cutting military pensions would not think twice about taking any savings and reprogramming that money into new benefits for amnestied illegal aliens!

As General Patton was heard to say back during the Second World War era, it is hard to find a politician in Washington, DC who would not pee on the American flag for a vote.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: oh-heck, 12/24/2013 10:56:38 AM     (No. 9666676)

And what was the AP opinion on whether Congressional staffers could afford to pay the same premiums and out of pocket expenses as the taxpayers they subjected to Obamacare? Did they support taxpayers continuing to pay 80% of their premiums or did they limit the premium support to the same means tested limits borne by taxpayers?

You know, the healthcare and retirement benefits were created for the military in lieu of higher pay. As such, if you change their retirement or medical care after their service, you owe them a buyout.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: god of irony, 12/24/2013 10:58:15 AM     (No. 9666683)

That´s funny, I don´t remember the AP talking to me about my finances. And when did the AP get granted the communist power to decide how much was enough for me live on?

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Reply 14 - Posted by: chance_232, 12/24/2013 10:59:09 AM     (No. 9666685)

How about we start cutting the pensions and pay for current and retired politicians, appointees and administration employees??

Just why do elected officials get the retirement benefits that they get? One term in Congress and they have a lifetime guaranteed annual income, at taxpayer expense.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: stablemoney, 12/24/2013 11:06:22 AM     (No. 9666693)

Oh, what a tangled web we weave when the government can decide what you have, what you can keep, who is favored, and who not. The founders did not give this authority to government, only corruption has brought us to this.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: snichols, 12/24/2013 11:26:03 AM     (No. 9666710)

I think veterans should get great benefits for the service they did for the country. I´m a little confused about these so called cuts. I read something about reducing the annual cost of living increase by 1 point for retirees under the age of 65, with the 1 point added back at 65. Is this what the cut is?

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Agent Orange, 12/24/2013 12:08:45 PM     (No. 9666765)

My email to John "Screw the Military" McCain:

You back stabbing SOB. How dare you vote to cut veterans benefits.

It´s okay to only give our vets a 1.5% pay raise yet government workers, you know the ones that didn´t offer to give their life for their country, have received, what, 30% raises over the last five years of our communist takeover by that fraud Obama.

I am now retired and I will put forth all of my efforts in time and what money I have left over to fight for your retirement,

May you have a real bad Christmas and poor health in the coming year.

Submitted with total disgust for you and what you stand for, which is not the for the veteran.

MSgt, USAF (ret)

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Reply 18 - Posted by: enuf8, 12/24/2013 12:34:37 PM     (No. 9666796)

# 17 - Arizona is one of the 14 states with laws on the books for recalling that DC Senator--------Good Luck!

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Iraengneer, 12/24/2013 12:52:33 PM     (No. 9666813)

let us try an alternative approach.
IMMEDIATELY reduce all ADC, AFDC, and Food Stamp benefits by 1 per cent. By the AP´s "logic", this should be OK.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: beancounter, 12/24/2013 12:53:37 PM     (No. 9666815)

Meanwhile, California prison guards are getting 6 figure salaries and awesome retirement benefits. If you claim they are overpaid liberals will argue that prison guards have to deal with the scum of the earth. But at least prisoners aren´t armed and running around loose. And the prison guards get to go home every day.

But then prison guards have a powerful union that supports the Democrats.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: GringoinQuito, 12/24/2013 1:34:29 PM     (No. 9666847)

1965, Marine Corps Recruit Depot, Parris Island, SC. Private E1 base pay $78 per month!

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Hermit_Crab, 12/24/2013 1:51:55 PM     (No. 9666867)

And at the same time, 0bama, by edict, gave Federal employees an across the board raise for next year.

Hey, wait. Aren´t the Military, by definition, and specifically named within the founding documents as one of the few legitimate Federal employees??? I don´t suppose that 0bamas largess included the military?!?

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Reply 23 - Posted by: jasmine, 12/24/2013 2:04:46 PM     (No. 9666882)

Smaller pensions for the US military.

Amnesty and generous taxpayer
"benefits" for illegal aliens.

What is wrong with us?

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Periwinkel, 12/24/2013 2:07:23 PM     (No. 9666885)

In 1966 brand new 2nd Lieutenant (with wife) drew $450/mo. We were so excited when the first of several service-wide pay adjustments gave him a raise to $600. We were so rich we could afford a baby!

We lived off-post because it was during VietNam and there was no on-post housing available for Lieutenants. Soldier went to VietNam during Tet of 68; came home during Tet of 69. First baby was born in 1970 to the new Captain and his wife. (Promotions came really fast during Vietnam.)

There were plenty of sacrifices, but we were proud to make them for our country.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: wsdiego, 12/24/2013 2:08:44 PM     (No. 9666886)

I go to camp Pendelton for get togethers and see wife´s collecting plastic water bottles and I read about food stamps they are obliged to use to feed their families and except any charity because they live so high on the hog! Yea they don´t need it! S/O!!

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Trigger2, 12/25/2013 4:42:08 AM     (No. 9667265)

#2: Barry and his military hating demonrat administration have already let the military down. Benghazi taught them that they can never rely on the goobermint to rescue them; that they can´t expect to protect themselves from enemy fire because they have to call a lawyer first to see if they can shoot back; and that they are considered to be nothing more than cannon fodder.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: hamrman, 12/25/2013 9:22:48 PM     (No. 9667857)

AP stands for Anti-Patriotic! What a bunch of bafoons!

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How does the Republican Party establishment choose its presidential candidate? Typically, constitutionalists accuse their establishment rivals of being moderate, risk-averse, stubborn old fools who lack faith in conservative principles. This is a soothing interpretation, as it begins from the hypothesis that the contest between conservatives and the GOP elite is a family feud. But there is another hypothesis -- less soothing, but, at least from an outsider´s bird´s-eye view, more reconcilable with the facts. This hypothesis is that America has reached a stage of progressive soft despotism in which the only important family feud in national politics is between the fundamentally

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