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Expanded Medicaid’s fine print holds surprise:
payback’ from estate after death

Seattle Times, by Carol M. Ostrom

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Posted By:Chaps, 12/16/2013 3:25:24 AM

As thousands of state residents enroll in Washington’s expanded Medicaid program, many will be surprised at fine print: After you’re dead, your estate can be billed for ordinary health-care expenses. The way Prins saw it, that meant health insurance via Medicaid is hardly “free” for Washington residents 55 or older. It’s a loan . . .

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Oh the hits just keep on coming. "yes Mr. Brown, your surgery bill of $200,000 will be paid by Medicaid. Unfortunately, if you don´t survive we will be coming for your house and anything you have left in your bank account. Now if you don´t mind, please sign this release form before the anesthesia takes effect . . ."

Staff has split extra wide headline.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Chaps, 12/16/2013 3:41:42 AM     (No. 9655577)

Oh, and now its becoming obvious why the state is pushing as many people into medicaid as possible, its a license to print money! Think about it, the feds subsidize the healthcare costs 100% for residents covered under expanded medicaid, state is paying nothing. Some day when the medicaid recipient dies the state sucks up any remaining assets (of the now dearly departed) equal to all their accumulated medical bills and sticks it in their slush fund . . . not bad work if you can get it!

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Reply 2 - Posted by: JHSMom02, 12/16/2013 3:45:35 AM     (No. 9655579)

Gives new meaning to eminent domain. Possession by the state of your domain is eminent.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Illinois Mom, 12/16/2013 3:50:55 AM     (No. 9655581)

I always thought that if you had assets like a house Medicaid payouts had to be reimbursed out of the estate. It would not be taken only if there was a surviving spouse who needed to live in the home.

I though that Medicaid was for those who had no assets. Way back in the 70´s my grandmother had to go into a nursing home and my parents could not afford the cost which at that time was about $3,000 per month. My grandmother had to be destitute and even her life insurance policy could not have a face value of over $1000 to be eligible.

What changed? And...who qualifies for Medicaid these days?


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Reply 4 - Posted by: Spidey, 12/16/2013 4:23:30 AM     (No. 9655582)

The state could really capitalize on this if they were to liquidate all the big screen TV´s of dead medicaid recipients.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Topic Thunder, 12/16/2013 4:36:21 AM     (No. 9655584)

That´s what happens when you make a deal with the devil. He takes everything you have every time.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Country Boy, 12/16/2013 4:47:49 AM     (No. 9655591)

So even the newly expanded Medicaid program is one more Ponzi scheme. Your heirs get stuck holding the bag.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: grampus, 12/16/2013 4:47:55 AM     (No. 9655592)

Sounds like this would be obamacare´s way of discouraging one from having expensive final stage treatments to extend life when the outcome is clear and near.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Country Boy, 12/16/2013 4:56:36 AM     (No. 9655595)

Just wondering, does this mean that Washington will be throwing people our of their houses?

Married couple, under Medicaid coverage. Own the house. One spouse dies, large Medicaid bills. Is the surviving spouse (Joint Tenants) displaced? Is the house forfeited to the Government.

If so, this is insane!

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Rather Read, 12/16/2013 5:33:01 AM     (No. 9655603)

My mother had to go to the nursing home. My father kept the house and a pittance in savings. That was all. Now I suppose if he had to go to a nursing home, there would go all his money and his home. Not that there´s much, but it´s sad to think that all he worked for would go to the State.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: sudmuf, 12/16/2013 5:42:51 AM     (No. 9655608)

"You will be assimlated." "Resistance is futile." Welcome to socialism, comrades.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: thelmalou, 12/16/2013 7:05:36 AM     (No. 9655663)

Correct, #3 - it´s already this way. Is this something new, or are people just now finding out about it?


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Reply 12 - Posted by: radvet1, 12/16/2013 7:16:10 AM     (No. 9655670)

I guess I see it as a bunch of people don´t want to work anymore.Use the system to get free medical care and then want to keep their assets too. Well sorry, get a job. Why should we pay for your healthcare and you retain assests - like maybe a home worth $500,000? I can´t believe lucianne.com readers think they should expect us to subsidize their tango dancing lifestyle.


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Reply 13 - Posted by: Janjan, 12/16/2013 7:23:21 AM     (No. 9655678)

There is no such thing as ´free insurance´. If you are happy to go on the government dole and let the taxpayers take care of you you should be willing to donate your assets to the government after your death.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Edgelady, 12/16/2013 7:35:37 AM     (No. 9655693)

If your parents are going to need Medicaid as the age because they are "house poor" (only social security income, own their houses and no other means of support), educate them that if they need Medicaid for any reason, e.g., nursing home, to put their property in your name - it can be a "one time gift" and would be no gift tax as long as it´s under whatever the amount allowed in inheritance taxes.

The caveat: this has to be done three years prior to their using Medicaid, otherwise yes, they will come for their home. But if they gift their home to you - it´s no longer their home.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: maryann4629, 12/16/2013 8:08:04 AM     (No. 9655726)

I have no problem with this. If you have saved for your old age, and your old age includes a nursing home stay, then that is what you have been saving for. All too often, assets are shifted from Grandma to her heirs, and the taxpayers are stuck with the nursing home bills. Why should I have to work to pay taxes to cover someone´s bills while their heirs are walking away with a nice, fat check? Welfare fraud, just the same as a person who cheats AFDC or Food Stamp programs.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: The Advocate, 12/16/2013 8:08:13 AM     (No. 9655729)

Man in a multimillion dollar home with children in private schools but low income was told he had to go into Medicaid and yes his house would then be taken.
What if it is in a Trust?
Point is control of ALL your assets and your managed death by Dr. zeke Emanuel aka Dr. Mengele and Obama´s Communist Cabal.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Nimby, 12/16/2013 8:10:05 AM     (No. 9655732)

Better to die with a health condition than join AcA?

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Reply 18 - Posted by: bigfatslob, 12/16/2013 8:30:40 AM     (No. 9655756)

Like the youths with their Opt Out movement you better stay out of this monstrosity of Obama and his communist cabal´s scheme so it can die under it´s own weight.
The only problem is will Republicans, except for Ted Cruz, repeal it or just nibble around the edges to help the communist democrats stay afloat?
Families have always dealt with estates and inheritances but when you make a deal with the government monster you are stepping into a deal you just might regret. This is one.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Clinger, 12/16/2013 8:38:18 AM     (No. 9655767)

Lesson learned, what ever you have they will seek a means to confiscate. Our government has transitioned from protecting the people to preying upon them. Shouldn´t social security have been enough of a lesson, they spent it for crying out loud. Of course this is the lesson known through history, one the founders attempted to apply to protect us, but now we are so sophisticated and the constitution is so 18th century you know.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: terry_tr6, 12/16/2013 8:50:40 AM     (No. 9655780)

This will come a a great surprise to all those "utes" who are getting put on medicare because they currently show no assets or income and are getting "free" medicaid. 40 or 50 years down the road when they have become middle class with a house and bank account the government comes to collect those old medicaid bills. All the asserts they thought they would pass to their kids will be confiscated.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: sandianne, 12/16/2013 8:50:41 AM     (No. 9655781)

Uh, correct me if I´m wrong, but I thought you had to be indigent to get onto Medicaid in the first place. What kind of estate would you be leaving behind? Furthermore, most nursing home residents leave everything to the nursing home until it all dried up... then they go on Medicaid. So is the state now going to run the nursing homes? Bad news if this is true.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: enuf8, 12/16/2013 8:55:06 AM     (No. 9655790)

I had heard that the states taking Fed dollars for expanded Medicaid coverage for their citizens will be more burdened for the expense of the coverage down the road--in like a year or two.

Contract for Sale can be used to transfer title and dated at an early date.....as long as it is witnessed or notarized it doesn´t necessarily have to be filed on record at the time of signature.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Skeptical1, 12/16/2013 8:56:15 AM     (No. 9655791)

Actually, I´m surprised that Obamacare contains such a sensible provision as this one. If your estate can pay your bills, it should. The recipients of this charity should be grateful that the payment is deferred until after they´re dead.


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Reply 24 - Posted by: bpl40, 12/16/2013 8:56:29 AM     (No. 9655792)

There is a co-opting option available under long term care insurance, which increases your premium by as much as 50%. But If you (or a spouse) require Medicaid for nursing care more of your assets can be shielded. Exact details should be obtained from a professional. My concern is hidden provisions of 0bamacare could supersede those rules.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: dittohead, 12/16/2013 9:02:56 AM     (No. 9655802)

Makes sense to me - my parents spent every penny they had staying in Assisted living - I even helped them. My father had a tiny life insurance policy when he died - that was it - but it was his money to be used for this purpose.



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Reply 26 - Posted by: CharlesMartel732, 12/16/2013 9:18:12 AM     (No. 9655824)

If you are a member of a protected "diversity" you will most certainly not have any wealth you´ve accumulated expropriated by the government. That will be the exclusive contribution left to those of European extraction alone.

Obamacare is the greatest wealth redistribution and reparations schemes ever devised, all rolled up into one colossal monstrous smiley faced fiendish behemouth too evil to begin to fully comprehend. It is so thoroughly and diabolically Marxist nature, so odious and foul in its intent most refuse to even entertain the it´s true breadth and scope.

Folks, bad news! We ain´t see nothing yet and the Demoncrats will never EVER give up on this the crowning jewel of their assault on Europeans and Christianity.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Holeymoses, 12/16/2013 9:29:36 AM     (No. 9655850)

I read this some time ago and was surprised. I wonder how many of those poor souls are aware of this. WHy the small print? WHy not be up front with this, let people know what they are up against?

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Reply 28 - Posted by: joew9, 12/16/2013 9:30:59 AM     (No. 9655853)

This is exactly as it has always been with medicaid. And as it should be. You should pay for your own life. (Ideally you should die, all your money spent, owning no one anything except a huge unpaid tax bill from the IRS

Medicaid is not medicare. You pay into Medicare your whole life. Medicaid is loan/charity from the government and people over 55 have to pay it back. Under 55 gets a free ride.

If you run up a bill when dying then your estate should pay for it. The children might think they are going to inherit but they can´t get a dime until ALL bills are paid. You even have to run an obit announcing the death so any creditors can get their bills paid. Then after all the bills are paid the children can inherit what´s left.

Now here´s a catch. Some people will give their house to their children. The children let them continue to live in it thinking they are going to avoid paying the creditors including Medicaid. Think again. Medicaid will come after that house. If the children bought the house from their parent and medicaid suspects the house was sold at a discount then medicaid will come after the difference from the fair market price.

But Medicaid nor creditors can ever come after the money the children have earned themselves that is not part of the parents estate. Old English law - Children do not inherit the debts of their parents.


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Reply 29 - Posted by: Felixcat, 12/16/2013 9:55:45 AM     (No. 9655911)

has nayone seen those commercials for some life isurance company that starts out with : when you die, Social Security will only pay your family $200 for burial expenses. So that´s why you need to buy our life insurance.

Since when is it the responsibility of the governemnt (federal or state) to pay for your funearl or burail? Likewise for healthcare - oh wait - too late.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: mickturn, 12/16/2013 9:59:27 AM     (No. 9655918)

Good Advice: Put the entire Estate into a trust as soon as possible...you need a 2 year space to preserve your estate or the money grubbers (Lefties) will take it all.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: BaseballFan, 12/16/2013 10:02:11 AM     (No. 9655925)

Maybe this is what Ross Perot meant when he described "a giant sucking sound".

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Reply 32 - Posted by: Joe vann, 12/16/2013 10:09:46 AM     (No. 9655936)

This makes so much sense it must be a mistake. I would wager this will never stand the socialist test of time.

I don´t think some of our group understand that this will help stop people from saddling us responsible citizens with long term care expenses that many could afford but have transferred their wealth to their children to avoid paying thousands in care.

I have a friend in Florida who sells Long Term Care insurance. He says his main competition are the lawyers handling these transfers/gifts. It is nothing less than legal fraud.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Cor-vet, 12/16/2013 10:11:19 AM     (No. 9655941)

So, after a long stay at Walter Reed, all of Frenchy Kerry´s, San Fran Nan´s and Dirty Harry´s estates would have gone to Uncle Sugar? Somehow, I know there´s a pass for the elites.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: kampboyd, 12/16/2013 10:24:43 AM     (No. 9655976)

This must also be true in the state of Maryland. I was the executor of my mother´s estate and we received a bill for $1.2 million. My mother was never on Medicaid and we had to prove they had the wrong person. The strange thing about this was that we received the bill from the same state department that issued my mother´s death certificate (with SS# that should have told them they had the wrong person).

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Reply 35 - Posted by: pontique, 12/16/2013 11:09:31 AM     (No. 9656040)

And I have read of instances where the government comes after the kids for payment of their parents medicaid liabilities if their remaining assets are insufficient. Beware

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Reply 36 - Posted by: odinsacolyte, 12/16/2013 11:11:28 AM     (No. 9656042)

Stealing from us one little tax at a time.
The do it the old fashioned way; they steal it.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: saguni, 12/16/2013 11:18:29 AM     (No. 9656061)

Poster #14, Baby Boomers and their lawyers picked up on that about two decades ago. It always bothered me that upper-class BBs with the education and money to hire lawyers could "protect" the assets of their inheritance and make the sucker--uhm taxpayers--pay for their parents´"final expenses," while we middle- and lower-class people who work hard and see their hopes of saving for a better retirement float away like a puff of smoke in higher taxes to pay for the "indigent" parents who´ve already given the BBs millions and need expensive medicaid-paid treatments.

And, by the way, I know this is not a new government policy. Decades ago my bitter maternal grandmother came to live with me (because none of her children could stand her) when she couldn´t coexist with my teenagers, we found her an apartment in a highrise senior/section 8 complex. She had never worked and had a very small widows benefit from my grandfather who retired in 1970. She qualified for SSI, Section 8 and MediCal, a week before she died at home, her doctor had diagnosed "walking pneumonia," there were no hospital bills.

About a month after she died, I received a letter from MediCal requesting reimbursement for all the medical care she had received in California, I wrote back that there wasn´t an "estate," she had borrowed used furniture from me and gave them her bank account number (which had been emptied by SSA and SSI ´reclamations´ of her last payments.)

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Reply 38 - Posted by: Franz, 12/16/2013 11:19:03 AM     (No. 9656064)

The only people being stung by the payback requirement are those who were gaming the system. In the case of the truly poor, they receive medical attention that exceeds their total assets -- their estate. At least they are not made homeless by medical expenses.

However, there are bad incentives being established. In the short term, the state is being reimbursed by the Federal government and then collecting again from the estate -- a net profit. This gives states an incentive to keep them alive but also to fill the Medicaid rolls with better off people. When his Federal reimbursement ends in a couple of years, Medicaid will flip to a huge liability to the states. Then the incentive will be to have the people on Medicaid die quickly and suck their estates dry.

ObamaCare just keeps on giving!



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Reply 39 - Posted by: strike3, 12/16/2013 11:35:52 AM     (No. 9656088)

Excellent comment #5. That certainly nails it.

Why not confiscate the estate and redistribute the money back to the taxpayers who paid for their Medicaid in the first place? I know, silly question.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: Tulsa, 12/16/2013 11:37:36 AM     (No. 9656089)

http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/revocable-living-trusts.html

sorry, tinyurl,aka,make a shorter link is not working. please cut and paste or search revocable living trusts.

a revocable living trust is to avoid probate. ..which is 9 months in South Carolina. It is very helpful in many other areas. The atty will put residence into trust via new ?deed/title. You change bank accts. and investment acct. names to include rev. liv. trust. other property, ie,autos automatically go into the trust.

Normally people on medicaid have little to no assets and would not have a rev. liv. trust drawn up by an atty.

forgive typos, I´m fighting ads loading at Lucianne.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: pwb, 12/16/2013 11:45:10 AM     (No. 9656095)

I see where some are saying that it was always this way. That is not true, the law may have been in effect but you were not forced into Medicaid. Now when you go in to sign up for insurance if you qualify, the system automatically puts you in. As with everything else dear leader has done, you are force to join the party!!!

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Reply 42 - Posted by: Chaps, 12/16/2013 12:04:01 PM     (No. 9656122)

Its not just the truly poor getting stuffed into medicaid anymore.

My advice for folks with low income, when applying for healthcare coverage on the exchanges be sure you LIE about your income and state its high enough so you stay out of medicaid. Better to get into highly subsidized regular plan and pay a little premium every month than get sucked into paupers prison.

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Reply 43 - Posted by: uno, 12/16/2013 12:26:45 PM     (No. 9656147)

Hardly a week goes by anymore these days that we don´t have the term "Slavery" thrown in our faces by people that haven´t known it for generations, but use it relentlessly soley for the purpose of grabbing more free stuff. Now I´m beginning to wonder who the real slaves are today!

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Reply 44 - Posted by: Philipsonh, 12/16/2013 1:13:10 PM     (No. 9656192)

This is no surprise to those of us who live in NYS. Of course the State is not expected to pay for a patient´s health-care requirements unless the patient has spent down his assets first. Only certain assets can be kept if the patient has a spouse, with certain limits, which I believe used to be a jointly owned home, a car, a certain amount of money, and a limited amount of income to maintain the assets kept by the spouse. Its been that way for years in New York. If the patient is an individual, everything must be spent down to a bare minimum $ amount left before the State starts paying the Nursing Home under Medicaid.

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Reply 45 - Posted by: Chaps, 12/16/2013 2:15:47 PM     (No. 9656260)

Thats why I´m saying, with the availability of extremely low premiums on a conventional health plan due to subsidies its better for low income people (but that have assets to protect) to make sure you report your income high enough to avoid being forced into medicaid.

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Reply 46 - Posted by: bennie, 12/16/2013 2:30:05 PM     (No. 9656275)

How long before this hits Medicare too?

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Reply 47 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 12/16/2013 3:17:24 PM     (No. 9656340)

#45, Agree. My widowed grandmother was on Medicaid at the end of her life, having outlived her savings and not owning her home. She was not allowed, under NY law, to have any assets except a small amount of savings -- under $1,000 -- designated for her burial, which even then was not enough for a funeral.

I understand now that the law allows the spouse to retain a savings account of their own, up to a certain amount, and the title to their home. I don´t know the amounts permitted.



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Reply 48 - Posted by: peterfleming, 12/16/2013 3:41:36 PM     (No. 9656366)

Read the fine print ! It always meant much more !
ALWAYS have your most reliable professional friend read it, too. This article creates a viper´s nest of doubts.

As Robert de Niro said of a fellow gang member in John Frankeenheimer´sclassic, RONIN,

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Reply 49 - Posted by: peterfleming, 12/16/2013 4:43:36 PM     (No. 9656456)

(Continued) "Whenever in doubt, there IS no doubt !"

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Reply 50 - Posted by: larryp, 12/16/2013 7:16:27 PM     (No. 9656565)

this rule has been going on since 1996 from the feds. But a lot of the states, did not collect for whatever reason. Now they are.
What happens in a lot of states is that the party spends dn the assets. The care is borrowed against the house, or the bank accts and stocks are sold and paid.
then the State says that the party can have a house and a car, and a bank acct, there can be equity in the house. If there are loans, they get paid. Then at the time of death the state sends a bill for the loved one incl Medicaid,medical and the custodial.
The house or assets sold and the state is paid. The key is to go into probate . I know folks have trusts to avoid. but the judges says, are all bills in, has the state sent a bill, do we need more time? Then if not he approves and you and the estate are off the hook. My friend got a bill for his mom ($23K) and for his dad (7K, from 10 yrs earlier) Don´t transfer assets unless u want to do time.

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Reply 51 - Posted by: uno, 12/17/2013 7:19:22 AM     (No. 9656901)

It´s getting pretty hard to move around in here anymore with the 500lb gorilla in the room and the 1500lb camel IN the tent! The only question left is when will they start ordering cinder-blocks and concertina wire...

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Reply 52 - Posted by: pineledger, 12/17/2013 8:06:01 AM     (No. 9656964)

Not to seem callous about this, but what estate would a Medicaid recipient have?

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Reply 53 - Posted by: Hobbiest, 12/17/2013 9:00:12 AM     (No. 9657038)

This is not a new law. It;s been around for years. Nor is it as simple as the article make it out to be. In the case of many seniors there is one asset- a house. Rather than force them to sell the house and to spend down the assets before they qualify for Medicaid, the law put a lien on the house to be exercised after death. This was meant to help the senior in two ways. Often other family members live in that house, including a spouse. Also, it provides hope if hey get better they can return home.

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Reply 54 - Posted by: fishermanswife, 12/17/2013 9:36:43 PM     (No. 9657986)

i>´´The first thing we do, let´s kill all the lawyers,´´

Shakespeare.

Imagine - we could have the USA back again!

Lawyers only prey on us -and we the people - are losing the fight. They - especially government, personal injury and special interest "lawyers" are vicious totalitarians.

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As thousands of state residents enroll in Washington’s expanded Medicaid program, many will be surprised at fine print: After you’re dead, your estate can be billed for ordinary health-care expenses. The way Prins saw it, that meant health insurance via Medicaid is hardly “free” for Washington residents 55 or older. It’s a loan . . .

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Seattle Times, by Amy Snow Landa    Original Article
Posted By: Chaps- 12/16/2013 2:35:10 AM     Post Reply
Washington residents who keep getting error codes when they try to enroll in health coverage on the state’s online insurance marketplace, Healthplanfinder, may still be able to get coverage by Jan. 1 — even if they are unable to complete enrollment by the Dec. 23 deadline. . . He said the goal is to help people who have done everything they can to enroll but repeatedly get error codes because of problems with the system. “If they’ve tried, and the problem is something that we’ve created that does not allow them to get through, we want to accommodate them.

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Could A Tech Giant Build A
Better Health Exchange? Maybe Not
National Public Radio, by Steve Henn    Original Article
Posted By: Chaps- 12/2/2013 6:51:22 PM     Post Reply
Oregon has spent more than $40 million to build its own online health care exchange. It gave that money to a Silicon Valley titan, Oracle, but the result has been a disaster of missed deadlines, a nonworking website and a state forced to process thousands of insurance applications on paper. Some Oregon officials were sounding alarms about the tech company´s work on the state´s online health care exchange as early as last spring. Oracle was behind schedule and, worse, didn´t seem able to offer an estimate of what it would take to get the state´s online exchange up and running.

Inside the company that bungled Obamacare
Newsweek, by Lynnley Browning    Original Article
Posted By: Chaps- 11/29/2013 3:04:05 AM     Post Reply
When 200 of CGI Federal´s top managers gathered at the luxurious Nemacolin Woodlands Resort in southwestern Pennsylvania on a brisk day in early November 2009, they found time for business - and high jinks. CGI Federal and its parent company, CGI, do behind-the-scenes work, often with "Top Secret" clearance, for hundreds of American and foreign government agencies - from the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission and State Department to the Kyrgyzstan Border Service and World Anti-Doping Agency. But the questions swirling around the company go beyond how it mangled the showpiece reform of Obama´s presidency. Some investors and analysts are expressing concerns



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Ben Carson: White House wanted
apology for ‘offending’ Obama

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Daily Caller, by Alex Pappas    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/15/2014 5:22:51 AM     Post Reply
Neurosurgeon Ben Carson says the White House wanted him to apologize for “offending” President Obama after he famously delivered a conservative message at the National Prayer Breakfast last year. Carson, the former director of pediatric neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins Hospital, recalls the events surrounding his 2013 speech in his new book, One Nation: What We Can All Do To Save America’s Future. The Daily Caller obtained an advance copy of the book, which is set for release May 20. “He did not appear to be hostile or angry,” Carson writes of Obama, “but within a matter of minutes after the conclusion of

Obama Generation Losing
Interest in Obama

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Wall Street Journal, by James Freeman    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/14/2014 4:23:09 PM     Post Reply
President Obama inspired a generation of young people to support his historic election in 2008. And in 2012, despite the struggles of his first term, Mr. Obama still managed to win the support of a full 60% of voters age 18-29. But the man who once dreamed of being a transformative leader in the Reagan mold is inspiring few of those young people to follow his lead. "For all the talk about the movement that elected Mr. Obama, the more notable movement of Obama supporters has been away from politics. It appears that few of the young people who voted

Why You Should Be Sympathetic
Toward Cliven Bundy

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Powerline, by John Hinderaker    Original Article
Posted By: Toledo- 4/15/2014 8:40:58 AM     Post Reply
On Saturday, I wrote about the standoff at Bundy Ranch. That post drew a remarkable amount of traffic, even though, as I wrote then, I had not quite decided what to make of the story. Since then, I have continued to study the facts and have drawn some conclusions. Here they are. First, it must be admitted that legally, Bundy doesn’t have a leg to stand on. The Bureau of Land Management has been charging him grazing fees since the early 1990s, which he has refused to pay. Further, BLM has issued orders limiting the area on which Bundy’s cows can

Chelsea Clinton no longer
ruling out politics

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The Hill (Washington DC), by Judy Katz    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/14/2014 11:57:36 AM     Post Reply
Chelsea Clinton says when people ask her these days whether she wants to go into politics, her answer isn’t an automatic “no.” The 34-year-old former first daughter told Fast Company in an interview published Monday, “for so long the answer was just a visceral no. Not because I had made any conscientious, deliberate decision, but since people had been asking for as long as literally I could remember, it was no." Now, the only child of former President Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton explains, "I live in a city and a state and a country where I

Glaring limits of the Civil Rights
Act: We need to redistribute wealth

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Salon Magazine, by Matt Bruenig    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/14/2014 7:20:41 PM     Post Reply
Although the Civil Rights Act, the landmark legislation which just reached its 50th anniversary, made great strides in desegregating the economy, economic discrimination is still widespread, and anti-discrimination legislation alone can never rectify the economic damage inflicted upon blacks by slavery and our Jim Crow apartheid regime. The Civil Rights Act was a mild reform, all things considered, but one conservatives fought with vigor and one many conservatives are still bitter about to this day. When the Civil Rights Act passed in 1964, the primary purpose was to root out discrimination in public accommodations (like hotels and movie theaters)

Megyn Kelly and the
Sandberg Head Shaker

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American Thinker, by Richard F. Miniter    Original Article
Posted By: magnante- 4/15/2014 9:16:05 AM     Post Reply
Megyn Kelly’s "Kelly File" is a great news show. She’s incisive, informed and customarily handles the toughest guest with aplomb. But her lengthy interview of Facebook C.O.O. Sheryl Sandberg about her second book in the Lean In series Lean In: For Graduates was a head shaker. Amazing that she of all people allowed Sandberg to restring the same old, same old, shamed, and shopworn feminist myths about women and girls and then jangle it in front of her viewing audience like something new out of the box. Indeed Kelly all but genuflected in front of this woman. Kept her on thru

White is not right: Campus admins ask
for help weeding out white people

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Daily Caller, by Robby Soave    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/15/2014 7:47:18 PM     Post Reply
Western Washington University sent a questionnaire to students asking them for advice on how the administration could succeed at making sure that in future years, “we are not as white as we are today.” The question notes that WWU’s racial make up does not perfectly reflect the nation at large, and asks students to consider strategies that other universities have used to focus on skin color as the paramount indicator of a student-applicant’s worth. The president of WWU has stated that his explicit goal is to reduce the white population on campus, according to Campus Reform. “I’ve said before and I’ll say it

Atlanta Braves flooded with Hank
Aaron hate mail: He’s a ‘s*****g’

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Washington Times (D.C.), by Cheryl K. Chumley    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/15/2014 3:23:19 PM     Post Reply
Hank Aaron’s recent comments about the need for America to realize that racism is still very much alive and thriving — only now due to those who wear “neckties and starched shirts” rather than KKK hoods — has sparked an angry backlash and many fans are turning the tables, calling the baseball legend himself a racist. “Hank Aaron is a s*****g piece of [expletive] [racial slur],” one man said in an email to the Atlanta Braves’ front office, one of the teams Mr. Aaron used to play for, CBS News reported. “My old man instilled in my mind from a

If a nuclear bomb exploded in downtown
Washington, what should you do?

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The Week, by Marc Ambinder    Original Article
Posted By: MissMolly- 4/15/2014 4:51:46 AM     Post Reply
Funny question in the headline, yes? But since President Obama worries more about the threat of terrorists´ improvised nuclear device going off in a major American city than anything Russia can throw at us, I was wondering if the government had deigned to share with us citizens any tips for, you know, surviving something their own intelligence points to as the likeliest unlikely Black Swan event. Well, no. And yes. No — very few people in Washington, D.C., who work for the government have any idea what they would do if a 10-kiloton nuclear device exploded at the intersection of 16th and K

Obama taps gay bishop to wrap Easter
Prayer Breakfast with invocation

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Washington Times, by Cheryl K. Chumley    Original Article
Posted By: jackson- 4/15/2014 9:25:28 AM     Post Reply
When President Obama needed a preacher to fulfill the closing prayer duties at the annual White House Easter Prayer Breakfast, he turned to none other than the Episcopal Church’s first openly gay bishop — who said he was as shocked as anyone at the appointment. The Right Rev. Gene Robinson said in a tweet, accompanied by a photo of Mr. Obama behind a podium at the event: “POTUS ‘preaches’ at the Easter prayer breakfast. Then, out of the blue, asks ME to close with prayer. OMG!” Newsmax said he also emphasized that the words he chose to close the breakfast

Obama Selects First Openly Gay
Episcopal Bishop to Lead Easter Prayer

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Mediaite, by Andrew Kirell    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/14/2014 12:46:05 PM     Post Reply
President Obama pulled a surprise move Monday at the White House’s Easter Prayer Breakfast when he selected Gene Robinson to lead the closing prayer. Robinson is famously known as the first openly gay Episcopal bishop. Talking Points Memo’s Tom Kludt spotted the following tweet from Robinson, who was in attendance: (Tweet) Robinson, 66, became diocesan bishop of New Hampshire in March 2004. He retired in January 2013 and is currently a senior fellow at the progressive

Developing: Russian fighter jet buzzes
U.S. Navy destroyer in Black Sea

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Associated Press, by Lolita C. Baldor    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/14/2014 12:49:12 PM     Post Reply
A Russian fighter jet made multiple, close-range passes near an American warship in the Black Sea for more than 90 minutes Saturday amid escalating tensions in the region, a U.S. military official said Monday. In the first public account of the incident, the official said the Russian Fencer flew within 1,000 yards of the USS Donald Cook, a Navy destroyer, at about 500 feet above sea level. Ship commanders considered the actions provocative and inconsistent with international agreements, prompting the ship to issue several radio queries and warnings. The fighter appeared to be unarmed and never was in danger of


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