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A Government Separated
from the People Cannot Stand

American Thinker, by Lawrence Sellin

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Posted By:Desert Fox, 12/13/2013 9:37:41 PM

In his 1952 book The Origins of Totalitarian Democracy, Israeli historian J. L. Talmon described a political system in which lawfully elected representatives rule a nation state whose citizens, although granted the right to vote, have little or no participation in the decision-making process of government. The federal government has become such a system, an entity unto itself operating outside of Constitutional constraints and unaccountable to the American people. The United States is now controlled by a Democratic and Republican ruling class that transcends government and sees itself as distinct from the rest of society and as the only element that may

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Pros7767, 12/13/2013 9:54:24 PM     (No. 9653047)

Absolutely the first Must Read for tomorrow morning!

Time to divorce the establishment republicans. I feel like a battered wife, am reclaiming my life and will NEVER vote for them again.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: doctorfixit, 12/13/2013 9:59:50 PM     (No. 9653051)

Shut off the money. Nothing else will change anything is Washington. Once Washington is a ghost town, then restored to swampland, we can talk about a peaceful split of the coastal urban leftwing cities from the rest of America. No federal government, no federal capital, just a collective military to protect the various states.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Ben Around, 12/13/2013 10:00:10 PM     (No. 9653053)

The Federalists assured the people that the Constitution would prevent factions (special interests) from conspiring to rob the people of their power and freedom by providing for elected representatives (Federalist #10). Competing interests were just one of the checks and balances they depended on to limit the power of the government.
The Antifederalists warned that aristocratic elites would combine to take control of government if the Constitution were adopted. The Antifederalists were right, that is what we have today - the Republicans and the Democrats "working together" to control the government, and they are not even hesitant to admit it.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: mfm, 12/13/2013 10:29:10 PM     (No. 9653067)

Must is right...yes, the drip is now rapid drops...

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Reply 5 - Posted by: slipstik, 12/13/2013 10:37:41 PM     (No. 9653073)

Because I live in the United States of America, I cannot say here what I have to say, because there is no Constitution any more. I know stamping your little feet and boycotting republicans won´t do it. I know the only way most of us can "withhold the money" is by quitting our jobs, and then going on welfare I guess. I mean what else can you do when THEY get your money before you get what they leave you??. I´m sure the founders wouldn´t leave us twisting in the wind like this... I´m done talking...

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Trigger2, 12/14/2013 1:51:42 AM     (No. 9653155)

Not only do they think they´re above you, that you are dumb and can´t do anything without them, but the said fact is that these elite snobs are morons with ideas of grandeur.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Timber Queen, 12/14/2013 2:42:57 AM     (No. 9653178)

“Coffeehouse communist” is the best short descriptor for Barry I’ve heard yet.

The good colonel is correct. “The status quo is no longer defensible. (snip) The ruling elites of a now hopelessly corrupt political system are just one major blunder away from revolution.” How this revolution will take shape is still to be determined, but it will not come about politically.

Like #5, I’m done talking. I am also done with the Republican Party who, despite the claims in their brochures, are big government statists who think only of maintaining their elite status. Mr. Boehner has made it abundantly clear that the GOP Old Guard has no interest in Constitutional government or in representing my principles and values. I vow, therefore, to never defile the GOP with my money, ground support, or vote ever again. Those who blindly support the establishment Republicans and continue to believe moderate candidates will sweep elections based solely on the pain Obamacare will cause, which will usher in a time when the GOP will really get tough (and do what?), are beginning to resemble, in my mind, the Obamabots. Trying to talk to them is like talking to lefties. They repeat their mantras and call us names. When reality intrudes they disappear until enough time has passed and then all their losses are the fault of “hard right purist conservatives” for not going along with the charade any more. Fie.

We’re as prepared physically and materially as we can be out here in our undisclosed location. Our focus is now on strengthening our relationship with Our Lord, and praying for the grace of discernment during the troubling times ahead.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Safari Man, 12/14/2013 3:16:33 AM     (No. 9653187)

#2 has got it right. The only solution is to get back to 50 separate states, each one doing their own thing in terms of government expansion. The blue stats can have their socialism and go the way of Detroilet. Let the red states flourish. This model doesn´t work for totalitarians, though. What do you think that Berlin wall was about?

For years I heard the more cynical folks around here in ldot say the "GOP was no different..." and I bristled thinking this was overstating it and detrimental to fighting the dims. With yesterday´s capitulation on the budget deal followed by the strategic attack on the tea party and other conservative groups, I think the most cynical among us were the most correct.

Its disgusting that to understand what is truly going on in DC you must be hyper-cynical when interpreting your own observations. But its true -- the more cynical you are about what is going on in DC, the closer you will be to the truth.


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Reply 9 - Posted by: planetgeo, 12/14/2013 4:29:27 AM     (No. 9653207)

There is no longer any doubt, is there? This level of corruption can no longer be corrected at the ballot box. You know it. We all know it.

They control the ballot boxes. And they intend to import more than enough undocumented communists to stuff the ballot boxes forevermore. So no, the ballot box will never again offer escape from tyranny.

But their stupidity and greed are propelling all of us to the ultimate solution. Their unending raising of the debt assures an ultimate collapse.

There will be chaos. There will be blood. And most of it will be theirs. Be prepared. It´s inevitable.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Poobah, 12/14/2013 4:52:44 AM     (No. 9653211)

I agree that the United States is tottering on the brink of dissolution and civil war. But I also believe that Ted Cruz is up to the task of turning this mess around and leading us back to the country that our founding fathers envisioned. Cruz is an extraordinarily intelligent man who understands the problem and is working endlessly to save the nation. I believe he can succeed.

Please help him.


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Reply 11 - Posted by: Spidey, 12/14/2013 5:10:57 AM     (No. 9653213)

It´s amazing to me how 40% of workers pay negative income taxes. What it really means is the government is throwing billions at low income people and it´ still a huge failure.The economy is still rotten,more people in poverty and stagnate or lowering incomes.

This is how this happens. A single womn with kids work part time while still mantaining welfare benefits. At some point they may stop working altogether.At the end of the year they get a huge check from thegovernment and they´reusually blown in no time.

Despite people getting billions in transfer payment,you still have nags out there on the minimum wage.

the way to solve all this crap is to pay the earned income allowance year round so people only get the extra money while working.You wouldn´t have billions in fraud people at the end of the year.

What would happen if the government subsidized low wage industries? It would knock people off any number of gov´t programs.Let´s just pick a figure of $12 an hour.That would be $480 a week,more than enough for people who qualify for any government program to get knocked off them,so you just shuffle the same money around.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: AnnaS, 12/14/2013 7:33:31 AM     (No. 9653270)

#10, I agree that Ted Cruz would save us if he could. You see how they attack him and marginalize him when he does anything. I am not sure one man alone can save us from the huge corruption this government has become!

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Reply 13 - Posted by: bubby, 12/14/2013 7:45:58 AM     (No. 9653286)

Senator Ted Cruz is my Senator and is doing a great job but there is no way the msm, Democrats, elite GOP and Rinos will ever let him get even close to the Presidency. They all will do a Sarah Palin on him and drive his negatives sky high. A conservative President and Congress could turn this country around in a heart beat but that will never happen. The Democrats control the ballot counting and the inner cities are always the last to report so they know how many votes they need to win. We are on the brink of collapse, chaos and even civil war could once again happen. I pray not but it is a very real possibility. Hopefully Texas will just succeed from the Union before that happens.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: M2, 12/14/2013 7:50:06 AM     (No. 9653289)

Outstanding. Almost every line is quotable, but the following stands out:

The Obama nightmare could be ended at any time simply by telling the truth. To do so, however, would expose the rampant corruption of our political and media elite, reveal their complicity in Obama´s violations of Constitution, uncover their willful ignorance of his alleged felonies and confirm their participation in the greatest election fraud and Constitutional crisis in American history.

It began shortly before Obama´s election the first time: The radical Left, aided by an extremely wealthy ideological group, shooed Obama into office as a totally inert but articulate figurhead, without qualifications, but able to carry out the dictates of those who put him into the White House.

What is the answer to the tyranny we face at this moment? Term limits, for one thing, but more substantively, an uprising that would put the Tea Party grassroots to shame. It is the only thing that will get the attention of the people whom we elected but who no longer represent us.

It will take a hero. A real leader, someone unafraid to lose the next election. Someone like, well, Ronald Reagan, only meaner. We have got to learn how to fight dirty or we will never again win another election.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Bohallx, 12/14/2013 7:56:04 AM     (No. 9653294)

The 50 state solution means we gotta´ prepare to blow the bridges over the Potomac ~

Then, we gotta´ blow the bridges over the Mongahela ~

You don´t want to do that over the Ohio/Mississippi however since that would take us back to the broader political set up that prevailed from 1541 to 1809.

Note, the Spanish initially set up what amounted to a limited military regime in North America which was similar to the system they used elsewhere in the Indies. It was actually quite successful attracting such notables as Daniel Boone AFTER the Revolution.

If you take a good look at similar climatic areas ~ the Gobi fringe in NW China, the Middle East, the Atacama hinterland in the North (Peru/Bolivia), Southern Spain and North Africa, you can see quickly why that would be the case ~ any sufficiently dry, or periodically dry region becomes a HYDRAULIC DICTATORSHIP. Without the doctrines and centralized power that comes with that approach, a dry area will become totally barbaric and depopulated in a short time.

One of the uses of the Ohio Valley and Central South is in providing sufficient food production to fill the needs of the rest of the country during times that would be famines in any other place.

I doubt the light military regime running Nebraska will be to anyone´s liking. So, be careful what you wish for in this.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: bigfatslob, 12/14/2013 8:12:31 AM     (No. 9653310)

Ted Cruz, Mike Lee and Sarah Palin are right.
The time is here to act. When I heard/saw the song and dance by John Boenhner I knew the republicans are joining the left in with the government monster stealing our freedoms and wealth.
The Tea Party is gelling into itself to be the only hope. We have two more elections to determine if we are finished as a nation then the only option if the elections are stolen is revolt with possible physical confrontation. That would be horrible but possibly necessary to save the Republic.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: bugger, 12/14/2013 8:24:26 AM     (No. 9653325)

This got me to thinking about the law that prohibits the RNC from contesting voter fraud. The case is the Democratic National Committee vs. the Republican National Committee, originally from 1982.

Democrats alleged Republicans were trying intimidate minority voters in New Jersey and brought the legal action. The RNC, inexplicably, decided to agree to a consent decree before a Democrat-appointed judge rather than fight the claims.

It´s hard to believe this is true, but it is. I was doing a little research before posting and discovered that the law has been challenged at the appellate level several times, but has been turned down in each case by democrat appointed judges. The same article claims that it is now pending before the Supreme Court.

The fact that nobody is talking about it supports the premise of the article. The RINO´s are as happy with the current state of affairs as the democrats. We have been taken out of the equation.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: BeatleJeff, 12/14/2013 8:47:45 AM     (No. 9653364)



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Reply 19 - Posted by: BeatleJeff, 12/14/2013 8:53:04 AM     (No. 9653374)

I have long believed that the States created Frankenstein, it will ultimately be the States who kill Frankenstein. DC is out of control, and it is getting to the point where the States are going to have to step up and either amend the Constitution to take back some control, scrap it all together and write a new one that imposes severe limits on Federal power, or secede and form their own nations. i can see this country breaking up into three or four different countries. If ObamaCare isn´t repealed in the next 5 years or so, I can see states like Texas, Louisiana and South Carolina heading for the exits.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Gretchen, 12/14/2013 8:58:33 AM     (No. 9653381)

It is nice, at long last, to see Americans beginning to wake up. Probably too late, but there will be good company in our misery. I weep for the perilous future of my children and grandchildren.

As for the Republicans, may they get all that they deserve.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Rinktum, 12/14/2013 9:06:08 AM     (No. 9653393)

This article explains the inability of our electeds to do anything to restore this Republic. FTA:

"The United States is now controlled by a Democratic and Republican ruling class that transcends government and sees itself as distinct from the rest of society and as the only element that may act on its behalf.The ruling class considers those who resist it as having no moral or intellectual right, and, only reluctantly, any civil right to do so.

Power rests, not with the citizens, but with a relatively small group of politicians and financiers, who enhance their personal wealth and privilege by looting the country through a self-serving legislative process. They maintain their authority by adjusting the levers of government and using the establishment media to manipulate public perception and opinion.

The author´s solution:

"The Obama nightmare could be ended at any time simply by telling the truth.

The obstacle:

"To do so, however, would expose the rampant corruption of our political and media elite, reveal their complicity in Obama´s violations of Constitution, uncover their willful ignorance of his alleged felonies and confirm their participation in the greatest election fraud and Constitutional crisis in American history."

Excellent article!



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Reply 22 - Posted by: lil dotty, 12/14/2013 9:10:48 AM     (No. 9653399)

This is the time. Sen Ted would be the logical choice, best choice. But first he must be put in that position. The fraud and corruption would never allow that. The government needs to be slapped around a bit. Perhaps even a grapefruit in its face at the breakfast table. A lawless government is the wild west revisited.


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Reply 23 - Posted by: Grace1798, 12/14/2013 9:55:42 AM     (No. 9653477)

Obama and his fellow communists have prepared themselves for revolution. Drones.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: strike3, 12/14/2013 10:11:30 AM     (No. 9653506)

You got it, #2. Our money means everything to this corrupt regime. Once we show the courage to take on the IRS, everything else will topple like dominoes and it will be all over but the cleanup and the hangings.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: OhMy, 12/14/2013 10:15:32 AM     (No. 9653513)

The last possible recovery from this is the Levin Liberty Amendments. If that fails it is either tyranny or another civil war. These are the choices we have!

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Knarfski, 12/14/2013 10:28:38 AM     (No. 9653543)

Need a good leader? Yes, but first we must better understand how someone so inexperienced, so incompetent (away from his handlers) could hold so many spellbound for so long. How is it that so many suucuumed to strategies patterned after those used to sell soap suds, autos, and so on?

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Knarfski, 12/14/2013 10:32:58 AM     (No. 9653552)

I.e., succumbed

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Reply 28 - Posted by: Hotrod, 12/14/2013 10:40:54 AM     (No. 9653565)

Based on hunting licenses sold, American hunters represent the largest army in the world. It does not include the folks who own guns but don´t hunt, or who have not hunted lately. Is it any wonder that the democrats and all their far-left base want to restrict gun rights?

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Reply 29 - Posted by: uno_thatguy, 12/14/2013 11:00:56 AM     (No. 9653594)

There are nine generals and 188 other officers who have been dismissed from our military. These men and women know the lay of the land. They know where the power structure can be controlled. Thank God for these men and women and all those who will have had enough.

It will be those disgruntled and irate officers who will be needed to lead a change. Beneath that force are tens of thousands of military personnel that will gladly follow their leadership. Then, there are millions of retired veterans and ordinary citizens that will gladly fall in line because we´re getting "madder than hell and we´re not going to take it anymore."

God help US, The greatest country ever in the history of the world. A country founded on Christianity and the freedom of all its people to live and worship as THEY see fit.

God Bless America!

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Reply 30 - Posted by: nonsense, 12/14/2013 11:12:54 AM     (No. 9653605)

I wonder if anyone in Boomtown is ever curious enough to read American Thinker articles or similar sites to gather a glimmer of the true condition of the country?

Furthermore, what does it say about the condition of the country when those in the Legislature and the Judiciary fear the Coffeehouse Communist and the Far Left press more than the fear the people?

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Reply 31 - Posted by: RancherJack, 12/14/2013 11:21:39 AM     (No. 9653626)

Lawrence is full of Win

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Reply 32 - Posted by: busterman, 12/14/2013 11:45:56 AM     (No. 9653667)

Several years ago I had an epiphany: all problems are the result of one thing -- a failure in leadership.

It doesn´t matter if the problem is in the home, the neighborhood, city, county, state, national level; or even in a corporation. All problems are the result of a failure in leadership.

So what´s your point, you may ask? Simple, we have to stop failing ourselves and take on more of the leadership role and stop being scared to speak out against tyranny. If we don´t, nobody else will. It doesn´t have to be a huge demonstration. Live it daily. It´s magnetic and over time more people will begin to see the light and join in.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Butch59, 12/14/2013 12:13:07 PM     (No. 9653709)

It was once said (I don´t remember who it was) that our brand of freedom (I´m paraphrasing) is great until the public realized that they can vote themselves a paycheck. Well, they´ve done it. And look at the mess we´re now in. And I don´t believe that a handful of men and women can be elected to reverse what the country has become. It´s going to take a revolt of the common man/woman to get rid of what we have as a government and start all over. We have enough information to see and understand the failings of our Constitution but those can be fixed to the point that what we now have can never occur again. Maybe we should get in contact with those 197 military leaders that have been fired and get them to organize the revolt. It would be a start.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: Trust No One, 12/14/2013 12:22:46 PM     (No. 9653723)

My concern with Ted Cruz is - his wife works for ´The Squid´ aka Goldman Sachs.

Another Banker puppet??

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Reply 35 - Posted by: gone2pot, 12/14/2013 1:19:39 PM     (No. 9653799)

Unless there is a significant reversal soon, it is only a matter of time that a catastrophe will be upon us, which may well lead to national collapse and fragmentation.

The ruling elites of a now hopelessly corrupt political system are just one major blunder away from revolution.


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Reply 36 - Posted by: peterfleming, 12/14/2013 1:44:43 PM     (No. 9653823)

In his bestselling 65 page pamphlet, COMMON SENSE, Tom Paine, for the first time in history, wrote that we don´t need to be divinely ruled by a king. And even more sensibly we do not need to be forced to accept his son as the next king. More importantly, there is no good reason on earth to be ruled and forcibly taxed by a ruler way across the seas thousands of miles away.
We have sunk so far as to stupidly accept that one Bush gets another Bush, one Clinton gets another Clinton.
How plainly stupid and thoughtless is that?
Well, our "ruling elite", as Lawrence Sellin brilliantly labels them, think that´s just fine! The ruling elite press keeps brainwashing for another Clinton, or even another Bush! From Ambassador Stevens and his fellow victims
to Vince Foster, Ron Brown, the men, women and children at Waco, murder is blindly overlooked by the elite media and Washington rulers. Allowing untold millions of illegals to flow into this great country, and handing out BILLIONS in tax stolen benefits is overlooked by the elite. Constructing a giant drug running mafia elite criminal underworld with massive daily money laundering by our top ten elite banks is totally overlooked by all its bribed elites. Allowing an imposter to continue his felonious impersonation in the nation´s highest elected office, is totally acceptable to all of our elite rulers and media.
And Sellin states that simply being truthful will stop it!
Show this to everybody you know, everybody you see.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: Hobbiest, 12/14/2013 1:52:45 PM     (No. 9653829)

We are in on. The noncompliance with Obamacare will be epic.

Remember that many political revolutions are not violent. They often involve passive resistance to government mandates that are self serving instead of for the general good.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: judy, 12/14/2013 2:06:39 PM     (No. 9653849)

Something happens to politicians when they go to DC. They live in a cocktail party circuit bubble, with all the frills of free everything on the taxpayers´s dime. They forget the people back home. They dine, ride, fly, drink & whatever together & their main concern is to please abccbsnbccnn NY Times & WP. Term limits is the only answer to bring this country back to reality. Career politicians will destroy our country.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: peterfleming, 12/14/2013 2:08:19 PM     (No. 9653850)

Congratulations to Lawrence Sellin, for citing Tom Paine and his 1776 best selling sixty five page pamphlet, COMMON SENSE, that sold over an estimated 500,000
copies in that first year alone ! It had a catalytic effect in
carrying out the American Revolution. It is blunt truth.
It happens to be wonderfully entertaining in its truth !
This is the kind of real truth Sellin is describing. Truth is the key to saving this great country. Blunt truth!!!
Get a copy, read it allowed with family and friends.
It will awaken your American spirit !

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Reply 40 - Posted by: grounded, 12/14/2013 2:21:27 PM     (No. 9653871)

#33 your quote below:

"The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public´s money."
Alexis de Tocqueville

Also from de Tocqueville:
"There are many men of principle in both parties in America, but there is no party of principle." and therein lies the problem. The ´Rats and the GOP have become self perpetueting oligarchies whose sole interest is the suvival of their ranks and priviledges.

DC or Boomtown if you prefer has become like the court of a thoroughly corrupt medieval monarch rife with palace intrigues, feckless courtiers and incestuous relationships, carnal ond otherwise.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: StuartL, 12/14/2013 2:27:24 PM     (No. 9653882)

#33 and all -- It was the Scottish historian and judge, Alexander Fraser Tytler (1747-1813), who wrote, with frightening prescience:

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the people discover they can vote themselves largess out of the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits, with the result that democracy always collapses over a loose fiscal policy--to be followed by a dictatorship.”

and: “The average age of the world´s greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence:

From bondage to spiritual faith;
From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to selfishness;
From selfishness to apathy;
From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back into bondage.”


However -- HOWEVER -- Tytler did not live to see the flowering of American exceptionalism, which might have changed his dour assessment. And if anyone, any people, can reverse what looks like an inevitable decline, the American people can.


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Reply 42 - Posted by: dman, 12/14/2013 3:13:13 PM     (No. 9653934)

Sellin´s article and the comments here once again state the problems well. We know what the problems are.

What are the solutions (short of armed revolution)? Very few have been willing to propose solutions that would break up the ruling class.

Elect more Republicans? How has that worked for us?

Exercise the provisions of Article V, as Mark Levin suggests? A viable approach, if there were enough political muscle to push it through the state legislatures. More than a book and wishful thinking are required to overcome the resistance of the national parties.

A new Republican party, as Levin now suggests? However, the Establishment class is entrenched and well-financed. It will take money and organization to unseat them. The Tea Parties, clinging to their 501(c)4 exemptions, are still unwilling to throw down the gauntlet and back specific vetted candidates. Multiple conservatives in the same primary split the vote and virtually guarantee a RINO win.

Levin almost has it right, however. He, Beck, Palin, and Limbaugh are right up to the line. Substitute "conservative" for "Republican" and you finally cross it. We need a new Conservative party!

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Reply 43 - Posted by: lennon47, 12/14/2013 3:35:31 PM     (No. 9653955)

Pros 7776
Who are you going to vote for?
A Democrat liberal is uncontrollable, a Republican liberal we might have a chance to reason with and apply some pressure.
Except McCain ofcourse.

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Reply 44 - Posted by: Jallmon, 12/14/2013 5:08:13 PM     (No. 9654046)

I grew up in the Midwest in the 60s. I cannot imagine our representatives doing Obamacare to us in the first place.

However, if they did and then exempted themselves, too? I can see people driving to D.C. and dragging the idiots home. Probably literally.

To succeed, we must focus on what we want. I want True Americans such as Palin, Cruz and the like to help us turn the country around.

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Reply 45 - Posted by: StuartL, 12/14/2013 8:22:33 PM     (No. 9654181)

#44 -- ”I can see people driving to D.C. and dragging the idiots home. Probably literally” --

It might have happened in the ‘60s. Perhaps even in the ‘70s. Not much need for it in the ‘80s, comparatively speaking. But since the abrogated 1994 Contract with America, the notion of the voters shaking the kleptocrats by the scruff of their well-fed necks is probably a pipe–dream.

Relapsing into cynicism for a moment: We’ve gotten soft, we’ve gotten spoiled, we’ve gotten lazy – and now we’re getting what we deserve.


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Reply 46 - Posted by: Ida Lil, 12/14/2013 8:52:34 PM     (No. 9654194)

Lest we all forget the United States of America was and is supposed to be a Representative Republic.
Such a government is based on majority rule with respect for the minority.
Fed by political sides racing to prevail we now live with democracy --- where each has a vote on every subject and the minority rules because the elected buy their votes.
Such a concept does not work for a huge population
Can this situation be reversed ? Probably only by sending the minority back their origins or absorbing them into the majority.
It was once labeled -- The great American melting pot.


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Reply 47 - Posted by: noddy, 12/14/2013 8:55:53 PM     (No. 9654196)

Tonight I´m going to do something I have never done before. That is, copy off this whole thread. The thoughts, the insights, the intelligence, beliefs, hopes and fears are so perfectly expressed here. What a simply amazing group Ms. Lucianne has been able to bring together. I´m beginning to feel a little of that anticipation that maybe our founders had. Without a doubt action of some sort is necessary in order to return America back to her people.

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Reply 48 - Posted by: nevernaught, 12/14/2013 8:57:32 PM     (No. 9654198)

Well, we can huff and puff but come up short of disrupting the current ruling class and replacing them with others. That is unless a plan is afoot to take over one of the national Party´s. I would like to believe that is possible, but with free folks there are always some divisions of opinion on how to regain Constitutional power.

The Tea Party and the various Religious Sects must join together and take over the Republican Party at the ballot box. Sometimes I write this stuff and wonder if I´m nuts or not, but it seems to me it is achievable.

There are certain people who completely understand the system, Newt Gingrich is one, Huckabee is another and Cruz is ready to join a crusade. I don´t want this to evolve into an arms revolution, since I think there are still enough sensible people left to achieve a turnaround peacefully.



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Reply 49 - Posted by: bobn.t, 12/14/2013 10:33:04 PM     (No. 9654254)

All very good, except the problem lies with the morons who elected these crooks into office - and will re-elect some more again next November.

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Reply 50 - Posted by: bobn.t, 12/14/2013 10:35:17 PM     (No. 9654255)

#19 - and I´ll become a resident and citizen of the Republic of Texas.

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