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It´s war! Senate gears up for epic
battle as ZERO Republicans line up
to support budget agreement (and
Democrats need to find at least five)

Daily Mail [UK], by David Martosko

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Posted By:Attercliffe, 12/13/2013 12:24:52 PM

A landmark budget agreement that passed in the U.S. House on Thursday faces certain death in the Senate unless at least five Republicans step up to support it--but so far there are no takers at all. The GOP´s Senate leaders plan to launch a procedural effort to kill the plan over a laundry list of objections--including a claim that it short-changes military veterans and other government retirees. Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin conceded that he needs to find Republicans who will vote for the measure after Republicans announced their intention Thursday night to block the deal. ´We need Republican votes to pass

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: twculver, 12/13/2013 12:40:46 PM     (No. 9652449)

I think the Dems are more afraid of a shutdown than they are letting on.

It would be amazing if the Senate Republicans finally decided to be a true opposition party. Maybe Harry Reid´s latest overreach on judicial filibusters finally woke them up.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: eoddad, 12/13/2013 12:49:37 PM     (No. 9652457)

#1 Hope your right as in "Woke" up.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: brownshoepogue, 12/13/2013 12:51:11 PM     (No. 9652460)

Maybe the speaker was too quick to disparage the position of conservatives regarding the recent budget "agreement." Looks as though the only progressive yahoos agreeing are the speaker, his house RINO butt wipes, the people´s democrat national socialist party members of the senate and of course, our dear scamster in cheat himself.
We need to primary every RINO that rolled over on ryan´s fiscal give-a-way/sequestion emasculation.


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Reply 4 - Posted by: oldmagnolia, 12/13/2013 12:56:51 PM     (No. 9652469)

Agree with #4. Every incumbent needs to be defeated.


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Reply 5 - Posted by: lil dotty, 12/13/2013 12:59:17 PM     (No. 9652472)

This is Boehner´s sobering moment. Bye bye Mr. Speaker, TEA party is about to brew.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: bighambone, 12/13/2013 1:01:19 PM     (No. 9652475)

They should not be changing the terms of already vested military pensions, as that just ends up hurting the little guys the worst.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Blackeagle, 12/13/2013 1:01:28 PM     (No. 9652476)

It´s a sad day when the dumbest Dem in the Senate (Patty Murray who said bin Laden has been “out in these countries for decades, building schools, building roads, building infrastructure, building day care facilities, building health care facilities, and the people are extremely grateful. We haven’t done that.”)

outflanks the ´´smartest´´ Gopper in the House -Paul (Green Arrow) Ryan, hero of the poor immigrants.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 12/13/2013 1:01:43 PM     (No. 9652477)

Stick that up your "Nuclear Option" Harry!

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Starlady, 12/13/2013 1:02:15 PM     (No. 9652478)

I think this is also due to Dems passage of the nuclear option. The GOP said they would slow down business in the Senate when the Dems made this move.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: KTWO, 12/13/2013 1:07:07 PM     (No. 9652482)

Some GOP Senators will fold, bill will pass.

Getting those Senate votes may require a few bribes from the White House but a President has many favors to dispense.

e.g. maybe the Senator´s daughter would like to be a federal judge?

Otherwise Reid will change the Senate rules again. Harry likes nuclear, he just doesn´t like nuclear at Yucca Mountain.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: thelmalou, 12/13/2013 1:13:21 PM     (No. 9652489)

Wow...this is a shocker. Be interesting to see if they hold firm, and yes, if they do, it´s a major slap to Boehner and Ryan.


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Reply 12 - Posted by: knotwyrkin, 12/13/2013 1:13:47 PM     (No. 9652490)

Rather than bribes, I envision blackmail provided by the NSA and the IRS will be the contributing factor for RINOs folding.

The RNC just sent me another request for money. Sorry old guys, I sent money to Mia Love and Scott Walker instead.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: judy, 12/13/2013 1:18:22 PM     (No. 9652494)

When was the last time the rupubs stood firm on anything? Too long to remember. They will cave, no doubt about it.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Mobyclik, 12/13/2013 1:39:23 PM     (No. 9652513)

Unfortunatly, I have to agree with those who say the Republicans will fold...it´s what they do.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: preciosodrogas, 12/13/2013 1:59:50 PM     (No. 9652536)

We know what they are, they are just negotiating price.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: GreatPlains, 12/13/2013 2:54:37 PM     (No. 9652587)

The article says that because no Republicans have publicly said how they´ll vote , as of Thursday night - it means that not a single Republican Senator
will eventually support Paul Ryan´s budget.
The Democrats have 55 seats in the Senate.
They only need 5 Republican votes.
The shutdown hurt Republicans , it accomplished absolutely nothing and another stunt like a potential filibuster by Senate Republicans
will further erode the chances of
retaking the Senate in 11 months.
Boehner never mentioned the Tea Party ,
he said " outside groups ".
Even if all 62 Republican votes in the House
against the budget were Tea Party,
they still only make up about 1/7 th of the total House members.
233 Republicans to 200 Democrats.
The Tea Party is the minority on the Republican side of the House , in the minority of the total House
and the minority in the Senate.
That´s a political and mathematical fact.
The budget is not that big of a deal in the scheme of things and it´s not the horror the outside groups are making it out to be.
As they make everything out to be.
I believe Paul Ryan is a man of integrity and reality.
I trust him, I do not trust the outside groups like Freedom Works and the SCF.
The big deal is the Senate next year and if the Senate Republicans filibuster , for the mere sake of filibustering ,
it reinforce the negative impressions of Republicans and
it will bring any gains
on we´ve made on Obamacare to a halt.


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Reply 17 - Posted by: snowoutlaw, 12/13/2013 3:15:24 PM     (No. 9652616)

If it were me I would not vote for anything Reid wants until the Nuclear Option is put back in Reid´s behind pocket where he pulls most things from.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: whyyeseyec, 12/13/2013 3:39:24 PM     (No. 9652641)

Reid will find 5 GOP sellouts. It just a matter of price.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Pluperfect, 12/13/2013 3:44:19 PM     (No. 9652647)

There are those who believe Karl Rove is responsible for everything bad that happens in politics. I´m beginning to think that Jim DeMint is, and too many in Congress are his willing puppets.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: msjena, 12/13/2013 3:48:57 PM     (No. 9652651)

Have they called McCain yet? Also, Kirk, Graham, Collins. So they only need one more.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Rakasha, 12/13/2013 4:07:01 PM     (No. 9652667)

~ The budget is not that big of a deal in the scheme of things and it´s not the horror the outside groups are making it out to be. ~

Excuse me? Our current debt is over 17 trillion dollars. Three trillion of that has occurred in the last three years. Coincidentally, the same amount of time it has been since Congress has passed a Constitutionally mandated budget.

That´s one trillion additional dollars per year and complete disregard for the Constitution. Not a big deal? You have got to be kidding!

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Reply 22 - Posted by: franq, 12/13/2013 4:20:30 PM     (No. 9652681)

Yep, 19, a ´Gang of 5´...

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Reply 23 - Posted by: simple simon, 12/13/2013 4:21:47 PM     (No. 9652683)

Take a breath #17.

Your first mistake is to equate politics (subjective and always changing) with math (precise and absolute). The math is a result of the politics. One GOP mention of abortion and God in the same sentence and politics changes the math quite rapidly, do you agree?

But to play along...

My math book says the Tea Party and those who support their ideals is a majority of the people and math says there are a whole lot more of us then them and many of us are armed and have quite enough. Do you think this political reality changes the math a bit?

This article and the fact that the GOP Senators are seeming to stand straight on this is a great indicator that my math beats your math - and those cowards in DC are crapping their pants now and scrambling to do what is good and faithful in OUR eyes.

Putting your political and mathematical facts aside do you really think that these guys are going to stand against this because they are good conservatives and this budget agreement is against their core conviction and principals? If it was not for the Tea Party and that small minority in Congress you seem to so easily dismiss with math, we wouldn´t be having this conversation and our political lords would sign another blank check without blinking.

What, prey tell, is influencing EVERYTHING that is being thought about, discussed and presented in Congress today? Global Warming? Where is the ONLY principled leadership coming from in DC if not from that small minority of tea Party members you seem to brush aside with fuzzy math.

Can you be honest with yourself?

What you see as a small minority of Tea Partiers in Congress I see as a fulcrum for we the people.


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Reply 24 - Posted by: BigGeorgeTX, 12/13/2013 4:38:18 PM     (No. 9652718)

You know things are tough when you you can´t count on McCain, Graham and Collins to reach across the aisle to stab the Republicans in the back.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Pluperfect, 12/13/2013 4:58:38 PM     (No. 9652751)

#24, that certainly sounds like wishful thinking. The budget agreement will pass. There´ll be no shutdown. No one wants that.

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President Obama addressed the White House press corps today, announcing that with the final numbers in, Obamacare´s exchanges have attracted eight million sign-ups -- 35 percent of whom are "under the age of 35," he said. Several elements of his comments were misleading: (1) At first blush, the 35 percent stat is both significant and impressive. As recently as last month, the share of "young invincibles" signing up for plans was struggling in the 25 percent range, far short of the actuarial target of nearly 40 percent. A leap into the mid-30´s, while still shy of the goal, would constitute a major step, and would bode well for the risk pools'


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