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Feds making new rules for senior drivers
USA Today, by Matt Schmitz

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Posted By:Attercliffe, 12/8/2013 9:44:55 AM

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has announced a new five-year strategic plan to improve safety for elderly drivers and passengers. Although they are statistically among the safest on the road, the number of older drivers is increasing dramatically — and with it, that group´s numbers of injuries and deaths. Since 2003, the population of older adults, defined as age 65 and older, has increased by 20% and the number of licensed older drivers increased by 21% to 35 million in 2012, according to NHTSA. Last year, NHTSA reported that 5,560 people older than 65 died and 214,000 were injured

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In my thirties impaired depth perception put paid to driving. Experience with many different drivers shown that a significant number of people of all ages who admit to depth perception problems are faking the test. In the "senior" category I see many older drivers who generally don´t travel far from their own neighborhoods and some won´t use the interstates. A 78-year old who often gives me a ride is an excellent driver. True, there are some problems with older drivers. But how are they to travel independently? A significant number have no access to senior transport services.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: MDConservative, 12/8/2013 9:51:51 AM     (No. 9645241)

How about we enforce the laws on the book...for drivers of ALL ages? Yesterday I had three accident-potential situations arise in a short foray to the supermarket. none involved a senior driver. In fact, all three involved middle-aged drivers ignoring signs and signals. Fix that first. It isn´t just "speed" that kills.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Coy860, 12/8/2013 9:53:32 AM     (No. 9645246)

Haven´t the FEDS messed up enough in this country already?
My license is a STATE license..butt OUT, feds.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Keekng, 12/8/2013 9:59:27 AM     (No. 9645255)

Once again the fearless Fed has found another fiasco with which to foist its foibles on frustrated taxpayers.
Posts 1 &2 are both correct. Get the phones and testing outlawed for all drivers and leave law abiding Seniors alone!

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Keekng, 12/8/2013 10:00:30 AM     (No. 9645256)

#3, should have been texting, not testing.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: 2dogs, 12/8/2013 10:09:07 AM     (No. 9645268)

Seriously? You think you can mess with old baby boomers´ driving independence? There would be unbelievable backlash.


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Reply 6 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 12/8/2013 10:12:46 AM     (No. 9645274)

First, kill all the statisticians !

Having admitted that the increase (in elderly injuries) was totally a function of the aging of our country, they then proceed to butt in with more, new ´Programs´.

Government types much prefer tilting at windmills. They do so damn badly when given do-able and measurable and necessary projects.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: horacer, 12/8/2013 10:15:07 AM     (No. 9645277)

Fed interference is never helpful. Kids and women putting on make-up while driving are more dangerous than seniors. What´s the DUI rate for seniors. I´ll bet not that high. How many seniors text and drive? Again I´ll bet it´s not that high. I´m all for safer cars, but not Fed designed safer cars.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Mildred, 12/8/2013 10:29:21 AM     (No. 9645293)

Did I miss something in the article or is some info missing? They state there was a ´spike´ in accidents but don´t state whether these were single-car accidents or accidents caused by seniors or younger drivers. If seniors don´t talk on the phone, text or put make-up on while fighting with children, how can they say that seniors are more responsible for the accidents? Some seniors cause accidents because of over-medication while younger drivers are more likely to drive while under the influence of other substances. So, who is really responsible for the rise in accidents involving seniors? Younger drivers have busier lives, drive faster, are more distracted but this report says accidents involving seniors are rising dramatically. Really? So who is really causing those deaths and injuries?

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Reply 9 - Posted by: stonepony, 12/8/2013 10:29:27 AM     (No. 9645294)

in a totalitarian state freedom of movement is not looked upon with favor. one must control its citizens in every aspect of their lives from what they know to what they think to what they do

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Reply 10 - Posted by: maggie2u, 12/8/2013 10:34:21 AM     (No. 9645301)

So, will all those who are already over 65 be grandfathered in?

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Reply 11 - Posted by: stablemoney, 12/8/2013 10:41:05 AM     (No. 9645310)

I didn´t drive 55 and won´t even read any Fed regulations.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: lil dotty, 12/8/2013 10:44:11 AM     (No. 9645316)

Once again attempting to stick their nose into state´s business. Duct tape will never fix stupid, but it will muffle the sound. I´ve got a brand new pair of roller skates.



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Reply 13 - Posted by: sailannapolis, 12/8/2013 10:46:21 AM     (No. 9645320)

It amazes me how we forget that the boomers are a large group! and of course there will be more over 65 I don´t trust the gov because they manipulate all numbers to justify their goals

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Reply 14 - Posted by: ROLFnader, 12/8/2013 10:54:04 AM     (No. 9645330)

Two things right off the bat , you NHTSA wits. There is an ever increasing number of older drivers as we boomers age and two, it matters not since I don´t have a U.S. drivers license.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: richwill, 12/8/2013 11:00:49 AM     (No. 9645340)

The feds will force the states to change rules by withholding federal funds for highways. They have did it before and will do it again. Remember the instigation of revenue sharing?

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Rakasha, 12/8/2013 11:07:00 AM     (No. 9645348)

You all still do not understand how our new Government works. This is not about safety, aging or even nannyism. It is about moving another step toward Statism and Totalitarianism.

Vehicle safety. A Government agency will now be put in control of vehicle engineering. Black boxes will be a necessity along with always enabled GPS. Speed limiters, automatic third party shut off switches and possibly pre-approved driving plans will be discussed.

Data collection. There are many more ways to track and monitor peoples actions, locations and behaviour. They will be implemented in the name of ´road safety´.


Driver behavior. Mandatory annual or bi-annual behavior modification classes. (Think Government run schools for grown-ups.) For those who plan to thwart the Government run medical system, mandatory annual or bi-annual examinations (including psychological assessments), during which end-of-life ´plans´ will be discussed.

When all is said and done many people, not only seniors, will lose their driving privileges and be relegated to well planned ´communities´, where all their needs - as determined by Government - will be provided in such a way that they do not need to drive.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: comstock, 12/8/2013 11:13:56 AM     (No. 9645353)

In 50 years of driving I´ve been rear-ended twice: Once by a car full of stoners, the second time by a woman lighting a cigarette (I could see her clearly in my rear view mirror as she barreled into me at 65 mph.

If the NHSTA need something to do go after the cellphone users, makeup appliers, cigarette lighters, radio tuners, recreational pharmaceutical users, drunks, those with slow reaction times, driving cars with bald tires and bad brakes.

Meanwhile they can pry my cold dead hand off my 6-speed shift lever.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: mozey, 12/8/2013 11:17:53 AM     (No. 9645359)

Note that this vacant article is in USA Today, which is a great tool for leftist scare tactics. There are just as many dumb people among the elderly as there are among the middle aged. So, as the Feds know darn well they cannot dictate State license bureaus, this is a scare tactic article to keep many elderly drives at home.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: jasmine, 12/8/2013 11:27:18 AM     (No. 9645370)

I see. The well known carnage caused by illegal aliens driving under the influence is of no concern to our amnesty-promoting federal government.

Creepily, it is more interested in monitoring the habits of law abiding, licensed drivers who also happen to be US citizens of a certain age.

Why am I not surprised?

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Reply 20 - Posted by: devnull, 12/8/2013 11:27:21 AM     (No. 9645371)

These silly Marxists and their five-year plans. If it isn´t the economy, it´s driving or some other thing in which they have no business meddling.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Philipsonh, 12/8/2013 11:28:43 AM     (No. 9645372)

Most senior drivers are cautious, drive slow, obey the rules, and use common sense, Many do not drive after dark because they understand they can no longer see as well as they should
in order to drive safely. Also many use another person to drive when necessary, such as after dark. I am in all the above categories. I have been involved in two accidents in the past 28 years, both while I was standing still at red lights, and much younger drivers decided to use my car for target practice ( one arrested for drunk driving ). the real problem on the roads is speeding, weaving, tailgating, disobeying signals and signs, aggressiveness, paying no attention while driving while using cell phones, and so forth, and few senior drivers take these actions. Lastly, whenever I drive AT the speed limit, others pass me, legally or not, because they drive above the speed limit. Virtually the only drivers on the road that obey the speed limits ARE senior drivers. When families are aware that a senior member can no longer drive safely, they make all attempts to have the person turn in their license. Many do so voluntarily. How old was that movie star
that recently crashed in Calif ? Famous for speed. Hardly 65 yet. I know my limits and do all I can to remain within them. I am well aware that as I grow older My abilities are less than they were when younger. When a 4X4 is driving one foot behind me is that their fault or my fault ? When they drive 50 MPH in bad weather is that their fault or my fault? The Federal Government should stay out of state controlled activities/

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Reply 22 - Posted by: bigfatslob, 12/8/2013 11:31:52 AM     (No. 9645377)

It´s not just texting and gadgets in the hands of drivers but ignoring all the drunk illegals without insurance or DL. They probably kill more families and wipe out seniors than any thing when they aren´t murdering them. Watch the news in Albuquerque New Mexico for one night.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: skedaddle, 12/8/2013 11:37:11 AM     (No. 9645383)

Typical USA Today article - says nothing. But I have a suggestion: quit paying cops to run speed traps and make the cops patrol the roads for unsafe driving like they used to.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: kafir091101, 12/8/2013 11:46:49 AM     (No. 9645394)

It’s the arrogance that turns control freaks into Fascists!

Arrogance and control. It’s their religion.

Kafir




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Reply 25 - Posted by: JHHolliday, 12/8/2013 12:05:12 PM     (No. 9645417)

My town is about 40% Hispanic now. I would guess about half are illegals. The illegals can´t get a license in Georgia but drive anyway and frequently drive drunk. Our local paper has a list of arrests every morning. Several will be for DUI and forgery (fake drivers license).

They don´t seem to care..."we don´ need no steenking license"...

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Reply 26 - Posted by: woofwoofwoof, 12/8/2013 12:10:58 PM     (No. 9645425)

Both my parents´ driving skills fell off markedly around age 80, my Mom gave up driving for good reason and if my Dad had lived another year, he was probably going to do so as well. I take note for myself.

But I think technology will moot this all out over the next twenty years, my current car has all kinds of cute little warning beeps and squawks, and the self-driving cars are on the horizon. This will probably result in some self-driving taxis, and maybe lots of old people will prefer these. Call them Obamacabs, right?


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Reply 27 - Posted by: mitzi, 12/8/2013 12:11:30 PM     (No. 9645426)

(1)the number of licensed older drivers increased by 21% to 35 million in 2012, according to NHTSA.

(2) 3% spike in fatalities and a 16% spike in injuries compared with 2011.

Statistics aren´t my strong point ... but doesn´t this indicate that the death/injury combined rate is did not increase at the same rate as the driver population increased?

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Reply 28 - Posted by: caljeepgirl, 12/8/2013 12:27:22 PM     (No. 9645444)

OMG, another federal "agency" telling me how to live my life!! Will this never cease?!? They´ll be prying my cold dead hand off my stick shift, as well. If anything might finally prompt a rebellion this might actually be it!

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Reply 29 - Posted by: caljeepgirl, 12/8/2013 12:30:48 PM     (No. 9645451)

Clearly, these "agencies" need to create these "programs" in order to justify their continued budgets/existence! ENOUGH!

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Reply 30 - Posted by: keekng, 12/8/2013 12:33:22 PM     (No. 9645454)

There is an old saying about figures not lying but liars figuring.
They claim accidents involving seiors have increased but they didn´t mention how many more seniors are now driving.
Just one more batch of federal excrement.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: Babsathome, 12/8/2013 12:40:05 PM     (No. 9645460)

Next move by the Federal Govt would be to justify more federally funded mass transit, and oh federally funded Union jobs for bus drivers. Then maybe just grab the seniors property and move them into "homes"" till we drain them. Then the little Fascists will pass out the blue pills. The Feds need to back off in so many areas , but not worth listing them.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: jackie, 12/8/2013 12:59:00 PM     (No. 9645480)

Feds want to keep those Seniors alive so THEY can kill them off by denying healthcare... Also.. we know they will let old illegals drive.. I hate the Feds and all their meddling ways. Can´t they just get the hell out of our lives?

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Reply 33 - Posted by: mitzi, 12/8/2013 1:05:07 PM     (No. 9645483)

#30 - they do. See what I wrote at #27.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: Keekng, 12/8/2013 1:34:15 PM     (No. 9645519)

Thanks, #33. Saw it after I posted.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: Penney, 12/8/2013 3:02:59 PM     (No. 9645598)

This statist micro-managing Administration apparently really does have it in for senior citizens. ...What, (& whom), will they conjure to target next?!

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Reply 36 - Posted by: bluebonnet, 12/8/2013 3:56:50 PM     (No. 9645643)

"...a five year strategic plan..." Well there ya go! The Communist 5-year plan.

I haven´t had a "moving violation" ticket for over 39 years. I avoid driving at night because of vision issues...and my sensible side tells me that I don´t see well at night, so I don´t drive! It really is that simple.
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Reply 37 - Posted by: mindyourbubble, 12/8/2013 4:14:05 PM     (No. 9645652)

#21 Hit he nail on the head.
Aggressive drivers really irk me.
1. Merges to one lane. They do all they can to squeeze by. I always let them in because a car length in traffic doesn´t me that much to me.
2. To me a Yellow light says be ready to stop not rev up to beat the light.
3. Most drivers forget the Right Turn on Red requires that one comes to a full stop first.
4. I don´t trust yield signs for other cars when I have the right of way. I make sure I have a clear path.
5. On green I always take a quick look left and right. To make sure some jerk isn´t trying to beat the yellow.


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Reply 38 - Posted by: earlybird, 12/8/2013 4:24:28 PM     (No. 9645659)

This is about control.

The stats they cite do not make sense - do not support their argument for this plan.

And isn´t it ironic that the preezy´s Uncle Omar has had two DUIs, one of which involved his hitting a police car.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: bighambone, 12/8/2013 5:32:21 PM     (No. 9645729)

If the liberals want to lose elections, all they have to do is instill in the geezers the idea that they are making it harder for old people to drive their automobiles.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: judy, 12/8/2013 5:46:12 PM     (No. 9645737)

When was the last time the feds saw a senior citizen doing road rage, texting, talking on the phone & a drive by shooting?

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Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 4:21:46 AM     Post Reply
It’s the stuff of Westerns: a showdown on the desert plains, the big bad government against an underdog farmer. Though the story has only grabbed national headlines in the past several days, rancher Cliven Bundy has illegally grazed cattle on the Nevada land surrounding his farm for over 20 years. He hasn’t paid grazing fees since 1993, and refuses to renew the necessary grazing permit.(Snip)Rather than using the avenues and pathways presented to him, Bundy has staunchly declared his own law and allegiances. Unfortunately, reality doesn’t work this way. If only it did—we could rebel for paying stupid taxes, refuse to

White House blames fox for
destroying Michelle’s garden

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Daily Caller, by Vince Coglianese    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 3:59:04 PM     Post Reply
The White House is going to war with another fox — and this time, it’s personal. The Wall Street Journal reports that a red fox has been causing chaos around the White House, tripping security alarms, digging up Michelle’s garden and distracting the president from his duties. The Secret Service won’t give any details about how often the fox trips the White House’s obviously sophisticated security alarms, but rest assured, officials say, they’re watching. President Obama was apparently “stunned” to see the fox roaming freely down the oft-photographed White House colonnade, home to the world’s shortest, but most dramatic, outdoor strolls. The bushy-tailed visitor

Students Demand Acknowledgement of
Robert E. Lee´s ´Racist and Dishonorable Conduct´

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Breitbart´s Big Government, by AWR Hawkins    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/18/2014 12:35:28 PM     Post Reply
A group of seven multiracial Washington and Lee University (W&L) students are demanding the school remove all Confederate flags from campus and "acknowledge" General Robert E. Lee´s "dishonorable side." According to the Roanoke Times, "seven multiracial students, calling themselves ´The Committee,´" have also demanded the school "acknowledge and apologize for participating in chattel slavery." They want recognition of "Martin Luther King Jr. Day on the undergraduate campus" and an end to "neo-Confederates" marching across campus "to the Lee Chapel on Lee-Jackson Day." The students say they will "engage in civil disobedience" if their demands are not met by September 1st. They added: "The

Living in the New York Times World
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American Thinker, by J. Paul Masko    Original Article
Posted By: magnante- 4/19/2014 7:48:36 AM     Post Reply
I began reading the entirety of the first section of the New York Times at nine years old, and continued that practice, more or less, for decades.(snip) ...the power of reverence, intrinsic to what I call the “cascade” of The Times: the near avalanche-like flow and distribution of information through electronic and print networks: through like-minded network newscasts, magazines, local newspaper s, blogs, daytime talk TV, late-night entertainment, statements at media award ceremonies, the celebrity Twitterverse, etc. The cascade rolls through Saturday Night Live, Jon Stewart, The New Yorker, the mouths of third-grade teachers, Elmo, Madonna and Susan Sarandon …through

In a Hole, Golf Considers
Digging a Wider One

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New York Times, by Bill Pennington    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/19/2014 10:48:33 AM     Post Reply
GREENSBORO, Ga. — Golf holes the size of pizzas. Soccer balls on the back nine. A mulligan on every hole. These are some of the measures — some would say gimmicks — that golf courses across the country have experimented with to stop people from quitting the game. Golf has always reveled in its standards and rich tradition. But increasingly a victim of its own image and hidebound ways, golf has lost five million players in the last decade, according to the National Golf Foundation, with 20 percent of the existing 25 million golfers apt to quit in the next few years. People under 35 have especially spurned the game, saying it takes too

Obama: ´For me, Easter is a story of hope,
a belief in a better day to come´

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Investor´s Business Daily, by Andrew Malcolm    Original Article
Posted By: SurferLad- 4/19/2014 9:16:36 AM     Post Reply
Hi, everybody. For millions of Americans, this time of year holds great meaning. Earlier this week, we hosted a Passover Seder at the White House, and joined Jewish families around the world in their re-tellings of the story of the Exodus and the victory of faith over oppression. And this Sunday, Michelle, Malia, Sasha, and I will join our fellow Christians around the world in celebrating the Resurrection of Christ, the salvation he offered the world, and the hope that comes with the Easter season. These holy days have their roots in miracles that took place long ago. And yet, they still inspire us, guide us, and strengthen us today. They remind us of our

Harry Reid calls dissident Nevada ranchers
´domestic terrorists´ following show of
force against the federal government

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Daily Mail [UK], by David Martosko    Original Article
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Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Thursday that a family of dissident ranchers and their supporters in his home state of Nevada are ´domestic terrorists,´ citing this week´s standoff with the federal government´s Bureau of Land Management. Cliven Bundy has refused to pay grazing fees for land where his hundreds of cattle roam every day. The land is owned by the federal government, which says he owes more than $1 million. Bundy, however, insists that since his family has been using the land since the 1870s, Uncle Sam can´t collect the grazing fees. A tense standoff developed this week after

Pelosi assists in Holy Week
foot-washing ritual

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San Francisco Chronicle, by Staff    Original Article
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To "honor the dignity and work of immigrants," Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi helps Bishop Marc Andrus wash the feet of two children Thursday at Saint John the Evangelist Episcopal Church in San Francisco. Pelosi also used the occasion to talk about passing HR15 - bipartisan immigration legislation that her office says would "reduce the deficit by nearly $1 trillion, secure our borders, unite our families, protect our workers and provide an earned pathway to citizenship." The Democratic leader´s ceremony coincides with Pope Francis´ similar ceremony in Rome to mark Holy Week.

Ted Cruz, Invoking Reagan,
Angers GOP Colleagues
but Wins Fans Elsewhere

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Wall Street Journal, by Monica Langley    Original Article
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WASHINGTON--Rushing to an afternoon vote last month, Sen. Ted Cruz hopped the underground tram to the U.S. Capitol from his office across the street. The Texan planted his black ostrich cowboy boots in the middle of the small subway car without getting so much as a nod from the other senators--Republican or Democrat--amiably chatting or huddled in their seats. Mr. Cruz finds himself standing alone a lot these days. His response to the cold shoulders: "The establishment despised Ronald Reagan" before he became president, "but the people loved him." For the 43-year-old Republican, the Reagan name illuminates his political life´s

Deadbeat on the Range
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New York Times, by Timothy Eagan    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 3:52:52 PM     Post Reply
Imagine a vendor on the National Mall, selling burgers and dogs, who hasn’t paid his rent in 20 years. He refuses to recognize his landlord, the National Park Service, as a legitimate authority. Every court has ruled against him, and fines have piled up. What’s more, the effluents from his food cart are having a detrimental effect on the spring grass in the capital. Would an armed posse come to his defense, aiming their guns at the park police? Would the lawbreaker get prime airtime on Fox News, breathless updates in the Drudge Report, a sympathetic ear from Tea Party Republicans?

Ann Coulter takes up ‘Mitt
Romney for President’ chant again

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Washington Times, by Cheryl K. Chumley    Original Article
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Conservative columnist Ann Coulter — who used her talk show platform in the last presidential election cycle to campaign hard for former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney — has taken up the mantra once again, calling on Republicans to give the failed White House bidder another shot in 2016. She made the suggestion during a discussion on Sean Hannity’s radio show while speaking of her new book, “Never Trust a Liberal Over 3-Especially a Republican.” Ms. Coulter also addressed the question of Mr. Romney’s shortcomings by saying that his 2012 loss wasn’t entirely his fault. “I think too much blame, not only in this


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