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More men speaking in
girls´ ´dialect´, study shows

BBC (UK), by Melissa Hoganboom

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Posted By:Write2Right, 12/7/2013 2:05:14 PM

More young men in California rise in pitch at the end of their sentences when talking, new research shows. This process is known as "uptalk" or "valleygirl speak" and has in the past been associated with young females, typically from California or Australia.But now a team says that this way of speaking is becoming more frequent among men.The findings were presented at the Meeting of the Acoustical Society of America in California. "We found use of uptalk in all of our speakers, despite their diverse backgrounds in socioeconomic status, ethnicity, bilingualism and gender," said Amanda Ritchart, a linguist at the University of

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Susannah, 12/7/2013 2:14:35 PM     (No. 9644483)

I´ve noticed this, too. And it DOES sound ditzy.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: secondtimelucky, 12/7/2013 2:20:17 PM     (No. 9644489)

uptalk drives me nuts - it´s impossible to listen to and not conclude that the speaker is a complete bubble head.

along with ´´you know´´...

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Reply 3 - Posted by: GreatPlains, 12/7/2013 2:20:27 PM     (No. 9644490)

When Obama feels stressed or angry when speaking in public-he does the same thing.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: harper, 12/7/2013 2:31:38 PM     (No. 9644499)

Why the surprise? Just a logical outcome of the continuing chickification of the western world. Everyone knows the new societal pecking order, with white male taxpayers at the bottom. It sucks to be them.

We should fund a university or nine to have a study...

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Reply 5 - Posted by: TexasRose, 12/7/2013 2:33:06 PM     (No. 9644500)

Sorry but I think Sean Hannity does that too much. It bugs me.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: MDConservative, 12/7/2013 2:34:23 PM     (No. 9644501)

These aren´t "young men", betrayed by their girly speak, and I´ll bet there is a correlation between this speech pattern and growing up in a female-dominated environment.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: alaskaal, 12/7/2013 2:35:27 PM     (No. 9644503)

Are we supposed to, like, say, "Gag me with a spoon" and such? Girls dialect...hmmm...

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Reply 8 - Posted by: ruready?, 12/7/2013 2:51:20 PM     (No. 9644515)

Several years ago as I complained about the apparent feminization of men, an old gentleman (now deceased) told me, "Every now and then a man is born with a woman´s personality." He then proceeded to go on with his thoughts without even breaking stride. Maybe all that is new is the failure of our society to resist it.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: stablemoney, 12/7/2013 3:00:16 PM     (No. 9644521)

I suppose anything can be found, but if this is it, go and look for something else.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: mossley, 12/7/2013 3:07:58 PM     (No. 9644529)

A study is not made from 23 observations. Also, this was in California. The subjects might have been males, but it´s unlikely they were men.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: fayebeck, 12/7/2013 3:23:19 PM     (No. 9644536)

If evolution is a fact then we can expect men´s testicles to drop off in maybe 10 years.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: hoosier observer, 12/7/2013 3:24:04 PM     (No. 9644537)

Is there a similar association with people who begin every vocalization by prefixing "so..." and then speaking on topic?

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Reply 13 - Posted by: hoosier-luger, 12/7/2013 3:32:29 PM     (No. 9644544)

Often, traditional speakers will not use "up-talk" -- even for questions. And, thus with the question-indicator being the inclusion of an introductory "question word" -- i.e., who, what, why, when, where and/or how. Many consider this subtlety to be a more polite manner of speech -- as it seems to be less directively demanding for a response from the listener (i.e., quasi-rhetorical) It also would seem to convey more confidently the "message" that is frequently intended to be delivered albeit in the form of a question.

Many announcers, news broadcasters, TV hosts, etc., seem to have gone to the same school of broadcast speech. Accordingly, these conformists can be heard to strive unduly to emphasize words in a given sentence -- seemingly at random -- and apparently, in an attempt to give "interest" to an otherwise non-interesting story. Brian Williams, for example, is famous for this annoying stunt.

Then, there is our orator-in-chief, Barack, who does not speak in normal phrases -- but rather drops his voice at the end of an arbitrarily selected number of syllables -- seemingly to simulate the end of a line from the teleprompter. Apparently, he thinks that this illiteracy sounds "cool". It doesn´t.



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Reply 14 - Posted by: hoosier-luger, 12/7/2013 3:33:05 PM     (No. 9644546)

And, of course, there is Moose-shell, our very cute Princeton grad, who does things like: (i) insisting upon dis-intoning the final "t" on words, (ii) saying things like "ax me a question", (ii) adding an annoying "hh" between the "s" and the "t" as in "tell me a shhtory" -- ala´ Chicago ghetto-style.
You can take the girl out of the.... Well, you get it.

Self-referentially, for a moment, the ubiquitous second-person illiteracy, would sound no better if it were to be phrased in the "proper" third-person -- i.e., "One can take the girl out of the ghetto...". Indeed, what is really meant here, is the passive voice -- "The girl can be taken out of the ...".

Then there is the sportscaster-ish, puerile use of the present tense for every verb tense -- annoying!!

But don´t get me started....

The simple truth is that many 7th graders speak far more effectively than do many in public life.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: SoCalGal, 12/7/2013 3:33:05 PM     (No. 9644545)

"Like, you know..."

Obie, Mooch, Carolyn Kennedy, the list goes on and on.

It MAY have started in the San Fernando Valley a long time ago, but it is ubiquitous now among the left wingers trying to sound hip and trendy.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: earlybird, 12/7/2013 3:36:40 PM     (No. 9644551)

Re #14, Mooch´s "schtruggle" is due to a speech impediment - she has a horrific underbite (note protruding chin) which appears to have undergone some kind of intervention but persists.

But she is, like, you know?, a habitual uptalker.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Emerson, 12/7/2013 3:40:37 PM     (No. 9644554)

Laughable when a Brit writer turns up writing about American speech that cannot be understood.

There are a gazillion dialects in the UK and many of them mimic the effect of marbles, mashed potatoes, or porridge in the speaker´s mouth.

Speakers who are up the class ladder speak clearly with almost no accent. Then there are the others. Our idea of a Brit accent is usually one of the lower class dialects.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: lil dotty, 12/7/2013 3:44:32 PM     (No. 9644559)

Female speak? The guys need not worry until they begin to ask the question
Does this bow make by rear look too big?

Double speak orwell speak, jive, investment and taxes. Up is down evil is good black is white and red is green. My brain is in completely scrambled mode.





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Reply 19 - Posted by: TulsaTowner, 12/7/2013 3:52:47 PM     (No. 9644566)

Maybe it´s estrogen contamination in the water supply?

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Reply 20 - Posted by: kanphil, 12/7/2013 3:59:18 PM     (No. 9644571)

Slowly, bit by bit the chickification of America continues. Drip, drip, drip...

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Reply 21 - Posted by: jglas, 12/7/2013 4:05:51 PM     (No. 9644575)

None dare call it gay nor even fay.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Bpl40, 12/7/2013 4:55:50 PM     (No. 9644600)

"You know" in the beginning, up speak at the end and pure jibberish in the middle. It´s like listening to nails being drawn across a chalk board.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: hoosier-luger, 12/7/2013 4:56:16 PM     (No. 9644601)

True, it is a speech defect, but it is not necessarily caused by a physical deformity. Darryl Willis, BP’s VP, geologist and spokesman on television, does exactly the same “Scht”- thing – and he has no observable under bite.

To be fair, Moose-shell is at least attempting to fight obesity by reducing kids’ junk-food intake.

BTW, Willis and Iris Cross (both ever schtill da BP shill) do da “t”- elimination thing, too. Willis taahs haahd -- and as a New Orleanian gits it rot sum of da taahm (ala’ da lady, Donna Bra-zill, or da man, James Caahvul) -- but just cain’t seem ta keep from lapsin’ a few laahns lahta own.

But, the ghetto brogue and all those goofy Southern vowels are no more annoying to the Midwestern, “Johnny Carson” ear, than are those awful New York overly-dentlized “t’s”.

We pick on everyone here.


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Reply 24 - Posted by: mitzi, 12/7/2013 5:20:16 PM     (No. 9644616)

I thought it was more a "gay dialect" thing. Not that there´s anything wrong with that.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: ModestoMo, 12/7/2013 5:23:21 PM     (No. 9644619)

and using the term button as in "push the buh un"

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Reply 26 - Posted by: hoosier-luger, 12/7/2013 5:29:26 PM     (No. 9644627)

Heh, doesn´t anyone (and rightfully) want to pick-on Hillary for her terrible "you know" pattern of speech?

Can´t she help it? It is highly likely that her handlers have told her to get rid of it. but, important people like "the queen of the Hill" are by definition somewhat self-indulgent -- and, which can often translate into a lack of self-control.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: ohioTom, 12/7/2013 5:45:56 PM     (No. 9644636)

I have a colleague who speaks like this (a professional). I have never said anything about this to anyone and am amazed there´s a word for it (uptalk). It´s always made me wonder. He´s not gay (I´m pretty sure), but this ´uptalk´ has always made me think that he sounds like he´s asking for the approval or acceptance of the person he´s speaking to. It´s always sounded weak to me. I wonder if the people he speaks with notice it. They must. I wonder what they think.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: Japanorama, 12/7/2013 6:11:34 PM     (No. 9644641)

Thay what?

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Reply 29 - Posted by: hoosier-luger, 12/7/2013 6:19:12 PM     (No. 9644647)

Right, Ohio,

And a lot of people won´t tolerate the perceived inherent rudeness in "up-speech", because it implies that the speaker is entitled to participation (qua response) from the (often captive) audience.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: Scottyboy, 12/7/2013 6:24:46 PM     (No. 9644649)

Most here have it right and #6 pretty much nails it.
Back in the day it was called an "Effeminate Speech Pattern" but now that we are no longer allowed to classify gender confusion and the attendant disgusting sexual behaviors and mannerisms as such it´s just cute and curious.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: tulipwood, 12/7/2013 6:25:56 PM     (No. 9644651)

Can anybody say, ´metro-sexual.´

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Reply 32 - Posted by: pickle1, 12/7/2013 6:38:32 PM     (No. 9644663)

Metrosexual Man.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Jennie C., 12/7/2013 7:13:52 PM     (No. 9644685)

I don´t think this is new. My 60-ish husband does this (drives me nuts, but he´s good otherwise), as does our son.

I used to say (to son), "stop asking questions when you talk," but it didn´t stop him, so I quit.

I don´t think they realize they´re doing it.

Sounds like a stupid study to me.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 12/7/2013 7:27:50 PM     (No. 9644695)

It is the emasculation of the Aemrican male that has been going on for fifty years and it´s escalating. These snooty morons who talk like that are so impressed with themselves they love the aroma of their own intestinal gas.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: bogeegolf, 12/7/2013 7:41:34 PM     (No. 9644707)

b-ESS!?

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Reply 36 - Posted by: ROLFnader, 12/7/2013 8:38:25 PM     (No. 9644748)

Speaking of 28´s short comment, I´ve noticed more and more lisping in commercial voice-overs on the radio in the last few years. I´m referring to national products such as AT&T and Sears, for example. I mean heavy lisping. I´m not saying they´re gay but it sure sounds , uh, festive. Not that there is anything wrong with that- other than the sex and marriage part.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: beancounter, 12/7/2013 8:47:09 PM     (No. 9644753)

I had a meeting with a very educated woman, a CPA at a big CPA firm, who talked like that. It really threw me off.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: whitegoldwing, 12/7/2013 11:00:59 PM     (No. 9644839)

This is now the norm in the corporate world. The men and women who use this upspeak, all think their poop doesn´t stink.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: NYbob, 12/7/2013 11:23:09 PM     (No. 9644849)

Geez, they better not stop over in Pittsburgh on their way to study speech patterns. At least I understand what a Steeler fan is declaring or asking. Sometimes you do have to decide which, but the problem with movies shot in England is they seem to think they never need subtitles, wrong.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: hoosier-luger, 12/8/2013 12:55:37 AM     (No. 9644886)

Up-speak can cause trouble, too.

Remember William Gambini´s statement in "My Cousin Vinny", when he (in Brooklyn-ese) asked a question in the form of statement by putting an "up-speak" at the end of the expression:

"I shot the clerk."

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Reply 41 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 12/8/2013 2:19:56 AM     (No. 9644920)

I´ve noticed more and more young people speaking like this. I mentioned it to a young student of linguistics/speech, and she blames the cable TV shows that kids watch. She said many of the teen-age and kid characters "uptalk."

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Reply 42 - Posted by: ocjim, 12/8/2013 2:28:09 AM     (No. 9644923)

- Uptalking is a sign of powerlessness and ineffectiveness whoever does it.

- I have no problem with the empowerment of women and expansion of their horizons the past 40 years. Empowerment is not a zero sum game but unfortunately we did not similarly endorse and motivate our young men. The resulting tentative, less purposeful men do not help themselves or women either.

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Reply 43 - Posted by: annie xango, 12/8/2013 2:55:11 AM     (No. 9644928)

BHO´s whistling ss´s drive me bats!!!!

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Reply 44 - Posted by: Pinchem, 12/8/2013 3:33:51 AM     (No. 9644938)

"uh" and "and uh" where there should be silence in a pause. When I worked in Radio and TV I had to break myself of the habit by saying it silently until I didn´t use it at all anymore.

Another thing that bothers me are people who talk with their mouth closed and are barely moving their lips. Hard to understand them.

I had to learn the lesson of "open your mouth and talk". It was exaggerated at first but eventually became normal. Pronouncing every word clearly is necessary if you want your points to get across. Slurring words is just plain sloppy.


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Reply 45 - Posted by: Garage Logician, 12/9/2013 12:27:57 PM     (No. 9646641)

Then you have the prevalent ´croaking´ or ´rasping´ affectation by women and girls. It sounds as though the female is either trying to sound as if she´s about to break into tears, or, is trying to sound tougher, by growling, lending herself some gravitas.

I find this croaktalking even more annoying than uptalking.

Then you have the warbletalking of Kelly Ayotte, who sounds as if she is crying while she´s speaking. Horrific.



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Breitbart´s Instablog, by Debra Heine    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/15/2014 9:28:18 PM     Post Reply
Less than a minute into his speech at the Boston marathon bombing memorial on Tuesday, Vice President Joe Biden went tragically off script and told the crowd of Boston bombing survivors that "it was worth it." After expressing how impressed he was with the tribute, he said somberly, "let me say to those ´quote survivors,´ my God, you have survived and you have soared. It was worth it. I mean this sincerely - just to hear each of you speak. You´re truly, truly inspiring." The audience sat in stunned silence until Biden declared, "I´ve never heard anything so beautiful than

Casual marijuana use linked with
brain abnormalities, study finds

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Fox News, by Loren Grush    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/15/2014 6:12:53 PM     Post Reply
Casual marijuana use may come with some not-so-casual side effects. For the first time ever, researchers at Northwestern University have analyzed the relationship between casual use of marijuana and brain changes – and found that young adults who used cannabis just once or twice a week showed significant abnormalities in two important brain structures. The study’s findings, to be published Wednesday in the Journal of Neuroscience, are similar to those of past research linking chronic, long-term marijuana use with mental illness and changes in brain development. Dr. Hans Breiter, co-senior study author, said he was inspired to look at the effects of casual

Which Actor Portrays The
Best James Bond?

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American Spectator, by Jonah Goldberg and Taki Theodoracopulos    Original Article
Posted By: Drive- 4/16/2014 11:20:22 AM     Post Reply
Look, everyone loves Sean Connery, particularly Sean Connery. That’s why he plays Sean Connery in every movie he’s in. People love that Scottish brogue so much, they don’t mind that he has it when he plays Juan Sánchez Villa-Lobos Ramírez, an immortal Spaniard in Highlander. The guy even won an Oscar for playing an Irish cop with a Scottish accent. Talk about sexist double standards: Meryl Streep has to master foreign dialects to get her golden statuettes. Connery just has to show up on time. In economics you devalue a currency by printing too much of it. In film you

White babies just 15 months old show racial
bias when picking playmates, study found

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Daily Mail (U.K.), by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/15/2014 10:23:35 PM     Post Reply
Toddlers show racial bias when picking playmates, a study reveals. They also take account of how fairly others behave. Researchers tested the reaction of white 15-month-olds as toys were distributed. Two white adults divided the toys, one equally and the other unequally. Seventy per cent of the toddlers chose to play with the researcher who distributed the toys fairly. But in a second test, when one researcher favoured a white recipient over an Asian one, they picked the ‘fair’ researcher less often, the journal Frontiers in Psychology reports. And the babies are more likely to help those who share the same ethnicity, which is known as

Michelle Obama Riverdances
Through Dublin to the Tune
of $7,921,638

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Breitbart Big Peace, by Tom Fitton    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/17/2014 6:45:16 AM     Post Reply
When it comes to tracking the cost of Obama family vacations, there are two primary challenges. First, the Obamas are prolific jet-setters, so there are many details to track. Second, the Obama administration, clearly embarrassed by these lavish and frequent family vacations, stonewalls the release of records at every turn. But we have been relentless in pursuit of this information. Our attorneys file the lawsuits and make our case, and our investigators pour through pages of records and crunch the numbers. And the information we’ve uncovered – information that would otherwise remain under lock and key – shows that the

Atlanta Braves flooded with Hank
Aaron hate mail: He’s a ‘s*****g’

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Washington Times (D.C.), by Cheryl K. Chumley    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/15/2014 3:23:19 PM     Post Reply
Hank Aaron’s recent comments about the need for America to realize that racism is still very much alive and thriving — only now due to those who wear “neckties and starched shirts” rather than KKK hoods — has sparked an angry backlash and many fans are turning the tables, calling the baseball legend himself a racist. “Hank Aaron is a s*****g piece of [expletive] [racial slur],” one man said in an email to the Atlanta Braves’ front office, one of the teams Mr. Aaron used to play for, CBS News reported. “My old man instilled in my mind from a

White is not right: Campus admins ask
for help weeding out white people

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Daily Caller, by Robby Soave    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/15/2014 7:47:18 PM     Post Reply
Western Washington University sent a questionnaire to students asking them for advice on how the administration could succeed at making sure that in future years, “we are not as white as we are today.” The question notes that WWU’s racial make up does not perfectly reflect the nation at large, and asks students to consider strategies that other universities have used to focus on skin color as the paramount indicator of a student-applicant’s worth. The president of WWU has stated that his explicit goal is to reduce the white population on campus, according to Campus Reform. “I’ve said before and I’ll say it

Elizabeth Warren whines about coverage
of her fraudulent Indian claim

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Daily Caller, by Patrick Howley    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/16/2014 9:54:52 PM     Post Reply
Democratic Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren wrote in her forthcoming book that she was “hurt” and “angry” by 2012 reporting on her fraudulent claim to Native American heritage. “What really threw me, though, were the constant attacks from the other side,” Warren wrote in her book “A Fighting Chance.” “I would almost persuade myself that I was starting to get the hang of full-throttle campaigning and then — bam! Out of left field, the state Republican Party, or the Brown campaign, or some blogger, would launch a rocket at me,” Warren wrote, adding, ”I was stunned by the attacks.” This reporter (blogger?) reported extensively

Progressive Insurance
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National Review Online, by Victor Davis Hanson    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/15/2014 10:08:10 PM     Post Reply
How do you ensure that you won’t be ostracized, denounced, or fired if you are a media celebrity, captain of industry, or high public official? For some, sexist banter is certainly no problem. Stand-up comedian Bill Maher called Sarah Palin a c–t and a tw-t, but suffered no ill consequences. David Letterman joked on air that Sarah Palin’s 14-year-old daughter had had sex with Alex Rodriguez during a New York Yankees game. There was no downside to that either. President Obama tosses around “sweetie” as he wishes. No problem with that. No one believes Barack could be condescending to women.

Former US president joins
opposition to Keystone XL

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Houston Chronicle, by Jennifer A. Dlouhy    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/16/2014 10:32:12 PM     Post Reply
WASHINGTON — Former President Jimmy Carter joined fellow Nobel laureates Wednesday in opposing Keystone XL, insisting that approving the pipeline would trigger “more climate upheaval” around the globe. In an open letter to President Barack Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry, Carter and the nine other Nobel Peace Prize winners bluntly warned the leaders: “Your decision on the Keystone XL tar sands pipeline will define your climate legacy.” The missive, published as an advertisement in Politico, represents the first time Carter has taken a position on the $5.4 billion project and makes him the first former president to come

Why is US Senator Harry
Reid so concerned with
a local Nevada rancher?

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Fox News, by Wayne Allyn Root    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/16/2014 9:37:12 PM     Post Reply
I live in Las Vegas. I live and breath Nevada politics. Something is very wrong. Something smells rotten in the Nevada desert. And Senator Harry Reid’s fingerprints are all over it. I am of course referring to the Bundy Ranch siege. This was a dispute between a Nevada ranching family with rights to the land in question for 140 years and the BLM (Bureayu of Land Management). The government claims they haven’t paid grazing fees for 20 years. The result was a government assault on the ranch- including snipers with assault rifles, SUV’s, helicopters, airplanes and over 200 heavily armed troops. No


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