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Warning: Jobless rate may be rigged
New York Post, by John Crudele

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Posted By:StormCnter, 12/7/2013 5:16:05 AM

The most curious thing of all about the November jobs report released on Friday was the huge drop in the unemployment rate — and the fact that the Labor Department chose not to disclose that the data going into that figure are under investigation for falsification. On Nov. 19, I broke the news in my column that the Census Bureau, which collects data that goes into the jobless rate on behalf of Labor, had caught one of its enumerators fabricating interviews in 2010. The culprit said back then (and to me during an interview) that he was told to do so by


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Reply 1 - Posted by: kanphil, 12/7/2013 5:30:12 AM     (No. 9643904)

Another "garbage in, garbage out" report from the government! What a surprise!

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Spidey, 12/7/2013 5:49:12 AM     (No. 9643912)

This writer seems to be the only one in the country that cares about Obama´s rigging job numbers.This is just another lost in the shuffle pattern of deceit that has gone on since he was elected.

The next best thing to improvement is just saying it´s happening,whether it is or not.I thought I heard a blurb that they counted the shutdown workers being rehired as a new job/

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Reply 3 - Posted by: littleorby, 12/7/2013 6:21:42 AM     (No. 9643926)

Let´s do a little farmer figuring here:

1). As I remember 250,000.00 jobs were created.
2). 42% percent of them were government jobs.
3). So, 105,000.00 were government jobs
4). and 145,000.00 were private sector jobs.
We all know government jobs pay more than private sectors jobs, but let´s say they pay the same (an advantage for my critics), to make my point. Then, to keep the numbers low, let´s say on average the total jobs pay an average of $5,000.00 per year.

$105,000.00 X $5,000.00 = $525,000,000.00
$145,000.00 X $5,000.00 = $725,000,000.00

Government jobs produce NOTHING. They only enforce federal and State laws, and their salaries are paid with tax payers dollars.

Now, let´s say the taxes paid by the new jobs are 30%.

The private sector pays. $217,500.000.00 in taxes.

The government workers pay. $157,000.000.00 in taxes (that´s assuming they ´really do´ pay their taxes).

So that leaves a net $368,000,000.00 that must be paid by the private sectors´ taxes for the government jobs, BUT WAIT! The new private sector jobs only pay in $217,500,000.00 leaving a shortfall of $150,500,000.00 unpaid for the government jobs.

Bottom line: The new job totals leaves a shortfall of 31%, which is added to the national debt.

Double check my figures . . . I didn´t.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: PageTurner, 12/7/2013 6:32:34 AM     (No. 9643935)

The only other country that gets caught doing this is the clownshow in Argentina.

Thanxalot, Obama. No wonder Cretina Fernandez says she knows deep down that Obama is a Peronist.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: WhamDBambam, 12/7/2013 6:52:30 AM     (No. 9643948)

Well, #4, deep down, I know that Zippy is something that starts with a "P," too.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: ROLFnader, 12/7/2013 7:03:22 AM     (No. 9643958)

The jobless rate´s on a downward veer
It´s wine and roses starting next year
And those objects in your rearview mirror? They´re farther away than they appear.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: privateer, 12/7/2013 7:48:31 AM     (No. 9644012)

I didn´t bother to check the calculations, 3, after I read: $5,000 per job. What kind of government job pays $5,000? Did you mean $50,000?

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Reply 8 - Posted by: secondtimelucky, 12/7/2013 7:54:54 AM     (No. 9644021)

7 - perhaps he was using $5000 just to make the numbers more simple. He could have posed any income figure but the extensions might have been too cumbersome for the sake of his argument...

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Reply 9 - Posted by: sorosisbehindit, 12/7/2013 7:56:54 AM     (No. 9644024)

Since they don´t mind fabricating numbers, why not report that the unemployment rate is zero?!
Oh of course, even the lofos will know that is wrong because they have no job. And they don´t want to alienate their lofos.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: littleorby, 12/7/2013 8:10:00 AM     (No. 9644041)

Thank you, #8. You are right.

I probably should have pointed out that some government salaries are augmented by fees paid by those being served, as well.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Deedo, 12/7/2013 8:23:05 AM     (No. 9644054)

Since the federal government can fudge the numbers on employment, it´s probably better than safe to believe that they are fudging the numbers.

If the federal government can deceive the public, they do. If they can break the law for political gain (meaning, not get caught) they do. If they can use the levers of power that they swore to protect from abuse give them and their allies political advantage and help hurt their enemies, they do.

This is why the healthcare Web site problems are so damnable for them. No way to really spin this out of sight. Who you going to believe, me or your lying eyes?

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Reply 12 - Posted by: bubby, 12/7/2013 8:38:00 AM     (No. 9644078)

Wasn´t there an article just the other day stating that unemployment had been over 7% for 60 months? As soon as that bad news hit the wire viola the unemployment ticks down to 7%. This Administration and the Democratic bureaucrats at Dept of Labor cook the books once again to help obama. All these unemployment numbers are fake and meaningless.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua, 12/7/2013 8:38:14 AM     (No. 9644079)

If something appears to be unbelievable it is likely a lie, and even more so considering it comes from the obama gang.

That obama sure lies alot.

Speaking of lies, there is another big lie coming down the road soon. Anyone notice the 2013 deficit? The debt clock has it at less than 700 billion and DECREASING, but the federal debt is climbing. Wait for the left to crow about the deficit being under a trillion dollars at years end. Unbelievable and probably a lie.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: maryc, 12/7/2013 8:50:15 AM     (No. 9644090)

Just ask yourself if you know anyone tho signed up for Obamacare or eh found a job last month ......neither do I !

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Lonestar Jack, 12/7/2013 8:53:51 AM     (No. 9644101)

For the past 4 years the monthly reports have been showing twice as many filing for unemployment and getting new jobs.

350,000 newly unemployed vs 175,000 new jobs.

Then again these figures come from Obama´s boys and who would believe them.

Aside from that Obama has said in his acceptance and "state of the union" diatribes that his #1 priority is JOBS. I can just ask "How is that going Bubba?"

But, who listens or roots for him anyway? The low intelligence voters?

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Periwinkel, 12/7/2013 9:03:44 AM     (No. 9644116)

Brother O needs a distraction from the mess called Obamacare and the devastation it is wreaking on our economy/country.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Joe vann, 12/7/2013 9:05:21 AM     (No. 9644118)

A big problem with any big central country government is there is the tendency not to hold their fellow workers accountable.( it is the union mentality) The USA did hold their employees and elected officials to some degree of accountability and integrity for many decades. We did adhere to our checks and balances, which served us well.

Has anyone in the regime been punished or lost his job with the regime, after more fraud, sandals, lies, cover ups and incompetences know to man kind ?

We were a nation built on the law, small central government and integrity--no more. The corruption has spread like the plague to all parts of the government and media.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: krause, 12/7/2013 9:06:37 AM     (No. 9644120)

From what we have seen about this fraudulent, failing, administration so far, I think we can safely assume they will, unethically, if not criminally, use any means, including using government agencies, to make themselves look good.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Grace1798, 12/7/2013 9:08:02 AM     (No. 9644121)

7 percent? Wait a minute, if you can do the math, you know that 41 percent business going under and it´s only 7 percent unemployment? AAAA can you do the math folks? No way is that right.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: bugboy, 12/7/2013 9:46:34 AM     (No. 9644180)

Warning: Jobless rate may be rigged
Ya think!

When you have an administration that is built on the basis of lying about everything how could you not think that they are lying about this?

From the President down this administration has raise lying to an art form.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: bigfatslob, 12/7/2013 10:22:19 AM     (No. 9644241)

If you are going to tell a whopper with fuzzy math why show 7% bring it all the way down to 3%. To use Hillary´s words, "what difference does it make?"

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Reply 22 - Posted by: sherlock1, 12/7/2013 10:28:33 AM     (No. 9644255)

It is safe to assume that any scam or fraud that an honest person with no criminal background can possibly imagine, a Democrat will have already invented, perfected, executed and gotten away with, while being praised in the media and probably awarded a medal for it.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: WimeTarmerFable, 12/7/2013 10:29:07 AM     (No. 9644256)

John Credule is fearless and corageous in his reporting, we owe him a big thank you for challenging the word of the Cabal. This is all fake and designed for one purpose, to continue enabling the Tsar to inflict his will upon the masses, with the adoration of the Servants in the media...nothing more.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Flyball Dogs, 12/7/2013 11:03:50 AM     (No. 9644299)

I´m not fond of liars. But as others have pointed out, if his lips are moving. . . . I am commanded to love this man, and even more difficult, to PRAY for him. Can I tell you how hard this is?

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Reply 25 - Posted by: michellewsc2, 12/7/2013 11:06:01 AM     (No. 9644304)

....and I´m sure this will be the last time this story ever surfaces

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Patchy groundfog, 12/7/2013 11:13:18 AM     (No. 9644317)

The figures provided here are solid and convincing but then again government grading itself has always been a farce.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Objectivity, 12/7/2013 11:49:36 AM     (No. 9644357)

B´berg & Y-hoo Finance breathlessly (so does Barrons for that matter) tout these ´improvements´ when serious issues exist as to the ´methodology´ & ultimate integrity of these economic reports.

Can we all agree that if this were GWB these same financial & general ´news´ media would neverendingly harp on ´questions´ about the veracity of these econ rpts?

Some day I expect to see a book by some expert which exposes & documents how fraudulent this ´econ´ rptg is - say like PRChina and soviet style ´rpts´. This is like the function now of the old ´ward heeler" (note: MichelleO´s father was such in Chicago) to ´ensure´ voters voted a certain way on time, etc. So too, laying ´factual´ basis for gov´t econ surveys........

Look at the failure of the news media while Chris Matthews, Howard Fineman, Jonathan Alter and many more make fine livings as propagandists. This influences the already ideologically pre-disposed wannabe ´reporterettes´ at B´berg & Y-hoo who fantasize about becoming the next Ezra Klein or Arianna Huffington. There is no professionalism standard in the ´news´ media except maybe Fox, IBD and certainly now Breitbart & Daily Caller.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: JediJerry, 12/7/2013 12:34:40 PM     (No. 9644405)

I do not believe any jobs report that comes out because they are always incorrect. This one is no different. Rigged? Worthless propaganda is more like it.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: earlybird, 12/7/2013 1:11:27 PM     (No. 9644440)

I expected that from the first announcement. Why would we trust their numbers? Be serious.

Fox´s Jenna Lee and others have gone so in the tank for Obie that they too were trumpeting these "wonderful" job numbers. We expect that of Shep Smith, who was doing the same, but had hoped for better from some of the others. Jenna used to be at Fox Business. Oh, well.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: Trust No One, 12/7/2013 1:24:15 PM     (No. 9644442)


Via Reuters:

"There may come a point where the financial markets say none of their debt is credible anymore and they can´t finance themselves," he told Reuters in the snow-covered Swedish capital, where he will receive his prize on Tuesday.

"If there is another recession, it is going to be worldwide."

Fama, who has been called the father of modern finance and shared the economics prize for research into market prices and asset bubbles, played down this week´s strong U.S. labor market data.

"I am not reassured at all," he said.

The U.S. jobless rate fell to a five-year low of 7.0 percent in November, and employers hired more workers than expected.

"The jobs recovery has been awful. The only reason the unemployment rate is 7 percent, which is high by historical standards in the U.S., is that people gave up looking for jobs," he said.

"I just don´t think we have come out of (recession) very well," he said.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: strike3, 12/7/2013 1:39:29 PM     (No. 9644452)

The way to measure unemployment in your area is to note how many 100% obese families are in front of you in the supermarket pushing three carts of groceries and paying with their guvmint credit cards. They don´t even bother to thank you for buying their food.

Why do they feel compelled to bring the whole family shopping every time? I guess all of that idle time lowers the standard for entertainment.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: bobn.t, 12/7/2013 4:56:53 PM     (No. 9644602)

You can´t believe anything from the gov´t bass tards, buzzards, or bull shippers.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Previouslyon24, 12/7/2013 5:24:08 PM     (No. 9644620)

FTA: "They had better figure it out soon. That drop in the unemployment rate might be the straw that sends the Fed into tightening mode." Glad the author is on top of the administration´s deceptions, but if this latest deception actually caused the Obama/Dems´ enabling Fed to stop printing the money supporting this phony recovery, that would be good. So much to fight and so little time. Impeachment still necessary, and now. Obama is a poison to this nation - - you don´t wait to throw out things rancid.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: lencu255, 12/7/2013 6:59:38 PM     (No. 9644678)

In my 48 years living in the USSR I was sure that commie/fascist government lies.
But that is not the point - the point is that people are losing their way of living. The prices go up, the good paying jobs are scarce, decent healthcare becomes the thing of the past. The totalitarian government pays the drones/leeches each and every way they can: disability, unemployment. Cities and whole states either go bankrupt or are on the verge of it. So, the gov´t lies, what else is new. The soviets had early (or more rare, I don´t remember anymore) grandiose party meetings where they proclaimed "further betterment of our living levels" and we all new that it was sheer BS.
The sad thing here, in America, is that we, supposedly "free", voted it in!

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Reply 35 - Posted by: LanieLou, 12/7/2013 7:50:55 PM     (No. 9644714)

In this new economy, it´s virtually impossible for future generations to select a career, work a 40 hr. week & strive to achieve career & improved lifestyle goals. And Pelosi said " They should thank us! Now they have more free time to do fun things!"

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Reply 36 - Posted by: Mickturn, 12/7/2013 9:32:45 PM     (No. 9644785)

DUH! Haven´t they ALL been rigged?

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Reply 37 - Posted by: michellewsc2, 12/7/2013 9:41:06 PM     (No. 9644797)

We know they were rigged, and have been rigged for over 2 years now. Stop telling us the obvious and start actually doing something about it!

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Reply 38 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 12/8/2013 12:57:31 AM     (No. 9644887)

#37, John Crudele has been writing about government flim-flamming us with the numbers for a long time. His reporting seems accurate and detailed, but he can´t do it alone. Other media players need to get on the bandwagon.

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It’s the stuff of Westerns: a showdown on the desert plains, the big bad government against an underdog farmer. Though the story has only grabbed national headlines in the past several days, rancher Cliven Bundy has illegally grazed cattle on the Nevada land surrounding his farm for over 20 years. He hasn’t paid grazing fees since 1993, and refuses to renew the necessary grazing permit.(Snip)Rather than using the avenues and pathways presented to him, Bundy has staunchly declared his own law and allegiances. Unfortunately, reality doesn’t work this way. If only it did—we could rebel for paying stupid taxes, refuse to

Students Demand Acknowledgement of
Robert E. Lee´s ´Racist and Dishonorable Conduct´

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Breitbart´s Big Government, by AWR Hawkins    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/18/2014 12:35:28 PM     Post Reply
A group of seven multiracial Washington and Lee University (W&L) students are demanding the school remove all Confederate flags from campus and "acknowledge" General Robert E. Lee´s "dishonorable side." According to the Roanoke Times, "seven multiracial students, calling themselves ´The Committee,´" have also demanded the school "acknowledge and apologize for participating in chattel slavery." They want recognition of "Martin Luther King Jr. Day on the undergraduate campus" and an end to "neo-Confederates" marching across campus "to the Lee Chapel on Lee-Jackson Day." The students say they will "engage in civil disobedience" if their demands are not met by September 1st. They added: "The

Living in the New York Times World
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American Thinker, by J. Paul Masko    Original Article
Posted By: magnante- 4/19/2014 7:48:36 AM     Post Reply
I began reading the entirety of the first section of the New York Times at nine years old, and continued that practice, more or less, for decades.(snip) ...the power of reverence, intrinsic to what I call the “cascade” of The Times: the near avalanche-like flow and distribution of information through electronic and print networks: through like-minded network newscasts, magazines, local newspaper s, blogs, daytime talk TV, late-night entertainment, statements at media award ceremonies, the celebrity Twitterverse, etc. The cascade rolls through Saturday Night Live, Jon Stewart, The New Yorker, the mouths of third-grade teachers, Elmo, Madonna and Susan Sarandon …through

In a Hole, Golf Considers
Digging a Wider One

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New York Times, by Bill Pennington    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/19/2014 10:48:33 AM     Post Reply
GREENSBORO, Ga. — Golf holes the size of pizzas. Soccer balls on the back nine. A mulligan on every hole. These are some of the measures — some would say gimmicks — that golf courses across the country have experimented with to stop people from quitting the game. Golf has always reveled in its standards and rich tradition. But increasingly a victim of its own image and hidebound ways, golf has lost five million players in the last decade, according to the National Golf Foundation, with 20 percent of the existing 25 million golfers apt to quit in the next few years. People under 35 have especially spurned the game, saying it takes too

Obama: ´For me, Easter is a story of hope,
a belief in a better day to come´

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Investor´s Business Daily, by Andrew Malcolm    Original Article
Posted By: SurferLad- 4/19/2014 9:16:36 AM     Post Reply
Hi, everybody. For millions of Americans, this time of year holds great meaning. Earlier this week, we hosted a Passover Seder at the White House, and joined Jewish families around the world in their re-tellings of the story of the Exodus and the victory of faith over oppression. And this Sunday, Michelle, Malia, Sasha, and I will join our fellow Christians around the world in celebrating the Resurrection of Christ, the salvation he offered the world, and the hope that comes with the Easter season. These holy days have their roots in miracles that took place long ago. And yet, they still inspire us, guide us, and strengthen us today. They remind us of our

Harry Reid calls dissident Nevada ranchers
´domestic terrorists´ following show of
force against the federal government

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Daily Mail [UK], by David Martosko    Original Article
Posted By: Attercliffe- 4/19/2014 9:29:17 AM     Post Reply
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Thursday that a family of dissident ranchers and their supporters in his home state of Nevada are ´domestic terrorists,´ citing this week´s standoff with the federal government´s Bureau of Land Management. Cliven Bundy has refused to pay grazing fees for land where his hundreds of cattle roam every day. The land is owned by the federal government, which says he owes more than $1 million. Bundy, however, insists that since his family has been using the land since the 1870s, Uncle Sam can´t collect the grazing fees. A tense standoff developed this week after

Pelosi assists in Holy Week
foot-washing ritual

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San Francisco Chronicle, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: Harlowe- 4/18/2014 11:46:54 AM     Post Reply
To "honor the dignity and work of immigrants," Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi helps Bishop Marc Andrus wash the feet of two children Thursday at Saint John the Evangelist Episcopal Church in San Francisco. Pelosi also used the occasion to talk about passing HR15 - bipartisan immigration legislation that her office says would "reduce the deficit by nearly $1 trillion, secure our borders, unite our families, protect our workers and provide an earned pathway to citizenship." The Democratic leader´s ceremony coincides with Pope Francis´ similar ceremony in Rome to mark Holy Week.

Ted Cruz, Invoking Reagan,
Angers GOP Colleagues
but Wins Fans Elsewhere

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Wall Street Journal, by Monica Langley    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/19/2014 8:09:17 AM     Post Reply
WASHINGTON--Rushing to an afternoon vote last month, Sen. Ted Cruz hopped the underground tram to the U.S. Capitol from his office across the street. The Texan planted his black ostrich cowboy boots in the middle of the small subway car without getting so much as a nod from the other senators--Republican or Democrat--amiably chatting or huddled in their seats. Mr. Cruz finds himself standing alone a lot these days. His response to the cold shoulders: "The establishment despised Ronald Reagan" before he became president, "but the people loved him." For the 43-year-old Republican, the Reagan name illuminates his political life´s

Deadbeat on the Range
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New York Times, by Timothy Eagan    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 3:52:52 PM     Post Reply
Imagine a vendor on the National Mall, selling burgers and dogs, who hasn’t paid his rent in 20 years. He refuses to recognize his landlord, the National Park Service, as a legitimate authority. Every court has ruled against him, and fines have piled up. What’s more, the effluents from his food cart are having a detrimental effect on the spring grass in the capital. Would an armed posse come to his defense, aiming their guns at the park police? Would the lawbreaker get prime airtime on Fox News, breathless updates in the Drudge Report, a sympathetic ear from Tea Party Republicans?

Ann Coulter takes up ‘Mitt
Romney for President’ chant again

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Washington Times, by Cheryl K. Chumley    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/18/2014 7:03:28 PM     Post Reply
Conservative columnist Ann Coulter — who used her talk show platform in the last presidential election cycle to campaign hard for former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney — has taken up the mantra once again, calling on Republicans to give the failed White House bidder another shot in 2016. She made the suggestion during a discussion on Sean Hannity’s radio show while speaking of her new book, “Never Trust a Liberal Over 3-Especially a Republican.” Ms. Coulter also addressed the question of Mr. Romney’s shortcomings by saying that his 2012 loss wasn’t entirely his fault. “I think too much blame, not only in this

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