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Warning: Jobless rate may be rigged
New York Post, by John Crudele

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Posted By:StormCnter, 12/7/2013 5:16:05 AM

The most curious thing of all about the November jobs report released on Friday was the huge drop in the unemployment rate — and the fact that the Labor Department chose not to disclose that the data going into that figure are under investigation for falsification. On Nov. 19, I broke the news in my column that the Census Bureau, which collects data that goes into the jobless rate on behalf of Labor, had caught one of its enumerators fabricating interviews in 2010. The culprit said back then (and to me during an interview) that he was told to do so by


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Reply 1 - Posted by: kanphil, 12/7/2013 5:30:12 AM     (No. 9643904)

Another "garbage in, garbage out" report from the government! What a surprise!

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Spidey, 12/7/2013 5:49:12 AM     (No. 9643912)

This writer seems to be the only one in the country that cares about Obama´s rigging job numbers.This is just another lost in the shuffle pattern of deceit that has gone on since he was elected.

The next best thing to improvement is just saying it´s happening,whether it is or not.I thought I heard a blurb that they counted the shutdown workers being rehired as a new job/

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Reply 3 - Posted by: littleorby, 12/7/2013 6:21:42 AM     (No. 9643926)

Let´s do a little farmer figuring here:

1). As I remember 250,000.00 jobs were created.
2). 42% percent of them were government jobs.
3). So, 105,000.00 were government jobs
4). and 145,000.00 were private sector jobs.
We all know government jobs pay more than private sectors jobs, but let´s say they pay the same (an advantage for my critics), to make my point. Then, to keep the numbers low, let´s say on average the total jobs pay an average of $5,000.00 per year.

$105,000.00 X $5,000.00 = $525,000,000.00
$145,000.00 X $5,000.00 = $725,000,000.00

Government jobs produce NOTHING. They only enforce federal and State laws, and their salaries are paid with tax payers dollars.

Now, let´s say the taxes paid by the new jobs are 30%.

The private sector pays. $217,500.000.00 in taxes.

The government workers pay. $157,000.000.00 in taxes (that´s assuming they ´really do´ pay their taxes).

So that leaves a net $368,000,000.00 that must be paid by the private sectors´ taxes for the government jobs, BUT WAIT! The new private sector jobs only pay in $217,500,000.00 leaving a shortfall of $150,500,000.00 unpaid for the government jobs.

Bottom line: The new job totals leaves a shortfall of 31%, which is added to the national debt.

Double check my figures . . . I didn´t.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: PageTurner, 12/7/2013 6:32:34 AM     (No. 9643935)

The only other country that gets caught doing this is the clownshow in Argentina.

Thanxalot, Obama. No wonder Cretina Fernandez says she knows deep down that Obama is a Peronist.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: WhamDBambam, 12/7/2013 6:52:30 AM     (No. 9643948)

Well, #4, deep down, I know that Zippy is something that starts with a "P," too.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: ROLFnader, 12/7/2013 7:03:22 AM     (No. 9643958)

The jobless rate´s on a downward veer
It´s wine and roses starting next year
And those objects in your rearview mirror? They´re farther away than they appear.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: privateer, 12/7/2013 7:48:31 AM     (No. 9644012)

I didn´t bother to check the calculations, 3, after I read: $5,000 per job. What kind of government job pays $5,000? Did you mean $50,000?

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Reply 8 - Posted by: secondtimelucky, 12/7/2013 7:54:54 AM     (No. 9644021)

7 - perhaps he was using $5000 just to make the numbers more simple. He could have posed any income figure but the extensions might have been too cumbersome for the sake of his argument...

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Reply 9 - Posted by: sorosisbehindit, 12/7/2013 7:56:54 AM     (No. 9644024)

Since they don´t mind fabricating numbers, why not report that the unemployment rate is zero?!
Oh of course, even the lofos will know that is wrong because they have no job. And they don´t want to alienate their lofos.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: littleorby, 12/7/2013 8:10:00 AM     (No. 9644041)

Thank you, #8. You are right.

I probably should have pointed out that some government salaries are augmented by fees paid by those being served, as well.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Deedo, 12/7/2013 8:23:05 AM     (No. 9644054)

Since the federal government can fudge the numbers on employment, it´s probably better than safe to believe that they are fudging the numbers.

If the federal government can deceive the public, they do. If they can break the law for political gain (meaning, not get caught) they do. If they can use the levers of power that they swore to protect from abuse give them and their allies political advantage and help hurt their enemies, they do.

This is why the healthcare Web site problems are so damnable for them. No way to really spin this out of sight. Who you going to believe, me or your lying eyes?

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Reply 12 - Posted by: bubby, 12/7/2013 8:38:00 AM     (No. 9644078)

Wasn´t there an article just the other day stating that unemployment had been over 7% for 60 months? As soon as that bad news hit the wire viola the unemployment ticks down to 7%. This Administration and the Democratic bureaucrats at Dept of Labor cook the books once again to help obama. All these unemployment numbers are fake and meaningless.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua, 12/7/2013 8:38:14 AM     (No. 9644079)

If something appears to be unbelievable it is likely a lie, and even more so considering it comes from the obama gang.

That obama sure lies alot.

Speaking of lies, there is another big lie coming down the road soon. Anyone notice the 2013 deficit? The debt clock has it at less than 700 billion and DECREASING, but the federal debt is climbing. Wait for the left to crow about the deficit being under a trillion dollars at years end. Unbelievable and probably a lie.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: maryc, 12/7/2013 8:50:15 AM     (No. 9644090)

Just ask yourself if you know anyone tho signed up for Obamacare or eh found a job last month ......neither do I !

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Lonestar Jack, 12/7/2013 8:53:51 AM     (No. 9644101)

For the past 4 years the monthly reports have been showing twice as many filing for unemployment and getting new jobs.

350,000 newly unemployed vs 175,000 new jobs.

Then again these figures come from Obama´s boys and who would believe them.

Aside from that Obama has said in his acceptance and "state of the union" diatribes that his #1 priority is JOBS. I can just ask "How is that going Bubba?"

But, who listens or roots for him anyway? The low intelligence voters?

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Periwinkel, 12/7/2013 9:03:44 AM     (No. 9644116)

Brother O needs a distraction from the mess called Obamacare and the devastation it is wreaking on our economy/country.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Joe vann, 12/7/2013 9:05:21 AM     (No. 9644118)

A big problem with any big central country government is there is the tendency not to hold their fellow workers accountable.( it is the union mentality) The USA did hold their employees and elected officials to some degree of accountability and integrity for many decades. We did adhere to our checks and balances, which served us well.

Has anyone in the regime been punished or lost his job with the regime, after more fraud, sandals, lies, cover ups and incompetences know to man kind ?

We were a nation built on the law, small central government and integrity--no more. The corruption has spread like the plague to all parts of the government and media.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: krause, 12/7/2013 9:06:37 AM     (No. 9644120)

From what we have seen about this fraudulent, failing, administration so far, I think we can safely assume they will, unethically, if not criminally, use any means, including using government agencies, to make themselves look good.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Grace1798, 12/7/2013 9:08:02 AM     (No. 9644121)

7 percent? Wait a minute, if you can do the math, you know that 41 percent business going under and it´s only 7 percent unemployment? AAAA can you do the math folks? No way is that right.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: bugboy, 12/7/2013 9:46:34 AM     (No. 9644180)

Warning: Jobless rate may be rigged
Ya think!

When you have an administration that is built on the basis of lying about everything how could you not think that they are lying about this?

From the President down this administration has raise lying to an art form.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: bigfatslob, 12/7/2013 10:22:19 AM     (No. 9644241)

If you are going to tell a whopper with fuzzy math why show 7% bring it all the way down to 3%. To use Hillary´s words, "what difference does it make?"

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Reply 22 - Posted by: sherlock1, 12/7/2013 10:28:33 AM     (No. 9644255)

It is safe to assume that any scam or fraud that an honest person with no criminal background can possibly imagine, a Democrat will have already invented, perfected, executed and gotten away with, while being praised in the media and probably awarded a medal for it.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: WimeTarmerFable, 12/7/2013 10:29:07 AM     (No. 9644256)

John Credule is fearless and corageous in his reporting, we owe him a big thank you for challenging the word of the Cabal. This is all fake and designed for one purpose, to continue enabling the Tsar to inflict his will upon the masses, with the adoration of the Servants in the media...nothing more.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Flyball Dogs, 12/7/2013 11:03:50 AM     (No. 9644299)

I´m not fond of liars. But as others have pointed out, if his lips are moving. . . . I am commanded to love this man, and even more difficult, to PRAY for him. Can I tell you how hard this is?

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Reply 25 - Posted by: michellewsc2, 12/7/2013 11:06:01 AM     (No. 9644304)

....and I´m sure this will be the last time this story ever surfaces

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Patchy groundfog, 12/7/2013 11:13:18 AM     (No. 9644317)

The figures provided here are solid and convincing but then again government grading itself has always been a farce.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Objectivity, 12/7/2013 11:49:36 AM     (No. 9644357)

B´berg & Y-hoo Finance breathlessly (so does Barrons for that matter) tout these ´improvements´ when serious issues exist as to the ´methodology´ & ultimate integrity of these economic reports.

Can we all agree that if this were GWB these same financial & general ´news´ media would neverendingly harp on ´questions´ about the veracity of these econ rpts?

Some day I expect to see a book by some expert which exposes & documents how fraudulent this ´econ´ rptg is - say like PRChina and soviet style ´rpts´. This is like the function now of the old ´ward heeler" (note: MichelleO´s father was such in Chicago) to ´ensure´ voters voted a certain way on time, etc. So too, laying ´factual´ basis for gov´t econ surveys........

Look at the failure of the news media while Chris Matthews, Howard Fineman, Jonathan Alter and many more make fine livings as propagandists. This influences the already ideologically pre-disposed wannabe ´reporterettes´ at B´berg & Y-hoo who fantasize about becoming the next Ezra Klein or Arianna Huffington. There is no professionalism standard in the ´news´ media except maybe Fox, IBD and certainly now Breitbart & Daily Caller.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: JediJerry, 12/7/2013 12:34:40 PM     (No. 9644405)

I do not believe any jobs report that comes out because they are always incorrect. This one is no different. Rigged? Worthless propaganda is more like it.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: earlybird, 12/7/2013 1:11:27 PM     (No. 9644440)

I expected that from the first announcement. Why would we trust their numbers? Be serious.

Fox´s Jenna Lee and others have gone so in the tank for Obie that they too were trumpeting these "wonderful" job numbers. We expect that of Shep Smith, who was doing the same, but had hoped for better from some of the others. Jenna used to be at Fox Business. Oh, well.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: Trust No One, 12/7/2013 1:24:15 PM     (No. 9644442)


Via Reuters:

"There may come a point where the financial markets say none of their debt is credible anymore and they can´t finance themselves," he told Reuters in the snow-covered Swedish capital, where he will receive his prize on Tuesday.

"If there is another recession, it is going to be worldwide."

Fama, who has been called the father of modern finance and shared the economics prize for research into market prices and asset bubbles, played down this week´s strong U.S. labor market data.

"I am not reassured at all," he said.

The U.S. jobless rate fell to a five-year low of 7.0 percent in November, and employers hired more workers than expected.

"The jobs recovery has been awful. The only reason the unemployment rate is 7 percent, which is high by historical standards in the U.S., is that people gave up looking for jobs," he said.

"I just don´t think we have come out of (recession) very well," he said.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: strike3, 12/7/2013 1:39:29 PM     (No. 9644452)

The way to measure unemployment in your area is to note how many 100% obese families are in front of you in the supermarket pushing three carts of groceries and paying with their guvmint credit cards. They don´t even bother to thank you for buying their food.

Why do they feel compelled to bring the whole family shopping every time? I guess all of that idle time lowers the standard for entertainment.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: bobn.t, 12/7/2013 4:56:53 PM     (No. 9644602)

You can´t believe anything from the gov´t bass tards, buzzards, or bull shippers.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Previouslyon24, 12/7/2013 5:24:08 PM     (No. 9644620)

FTA: "They had better figure it out soon. That drop in the unemployment rate might be the straw that sends the Fed into tightening mode." Glad the author is on top of the administration´s deceptions, but if this latest deception actually caused the Obama/Dems´ enabling Fed to stop printing the money supporting this phony recovery, that would be good. So much to fight and so little time. Impeachment still necessary, and now. Obama is a poison to this nation - - you don´t wait to throw out things rancid.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: lencu255, 12/7/2013 6:59:38 PM     (No. 9644678)

In my 48 years living in the USSR I was sure that commie/fascist government lies.
But that is not the point - the point is that people are losing their way of living. The prices go up, the good paying jobs are scarce, decent healthcare becomes the thing of the past. The totalitarian government pays the drones/leeches each and every way they can: disability, unemployment. Cities and whole states either go bankrupt or are on the verge of it. So, the gov´t lies, what else is new. The soviets had early (or more rare, I don´t remember anymore) grandiose party meetings where they proclaimed "further betterment of our living levels" and we all new that it was sheer BS.
The sad thing here, in America, is that we, supposedly "free", voted it in!

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Reply 35 - Posted by: LanieLou, 12/7/2013 7:50:55 PM     (No. 9644714)

In this new economy, it´s virtually impossible for future generations to select a career, work a 40 hr. week & strive to achieve career & improved lifestyle goals. And Pelosi said " They should thank us! Now they have more free time to do fun things!"

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Reply 36 - Posted by: Mickturn, 12/7/2013 9:32:45 PM     (No. 9644785)

DUH! Haven´t they ALL been rigged?

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Reply 37 - Posted by: michellewsc2, 12/7/2013 9:41:06 PM     (No. 9644797)

We know they were rigged, and have been rigged for over 2 years now. Stop telling us the obvious and start actually doing something about it!

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Reply 38 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 12/8/2013 12:57:31 AM     (No. 9644887)

#37, John Crudele has been writing about government flim-flamming us with the numbers for a long time. His reporting seems accurate and detailed, but he can´t do it alone. Other media players need to get on the bandwagon.

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Associated Press, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/21/2014 9:31:25 PM     Post Reply
Washington - Michelle Obama said "splurging is the key to life" if you regularly eat right and stay active. Her biggest guilty pleasure: French fries. "How would you appreciate vegetables if you never had chocolate?" she asked. "You couldn´t live without a little chocolate, a little French fries." The first lady took questions from children reporters Monday after appearing at the White House Easter Egg Roll. She told the children that if they eat right the majority of the time, then a splurge or snack is not going to hurt them. "I still splurge when I can, but that's why I try to exercise almost every day," she said.

But Seriously, Just How
Slow-Witted is John Boehner?

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American Thinker, by C. Edmund Wright    Original Article
Posted By: quantumman- 4/21/2014 7:22:21 AM     Post Reply
As he moves from lobbyists to the golf course, from press conferences to the tanning bed, he remains oblivious to all that is around him. He has power, incredible power, and yet to this day he has no understanding of the election that made it so. Moreover, all around him are astonishing opportunities for him to be an historic figure -- one who could and should be the man who did more than any other single person in turning back the red tide of Obama. It’s all there for Speaker of the House, and yet John Boehner manages to miss

Would YOU be underwater if the
polar caps melted? Map reveals
what our planet would look like
if sea levels rose by 260ft

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Daily Mail (UK), by Ellie Zolfagharifard    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/21/2014 5:20:21 PM     Post Reply
Global sea levels have risen by 8 inches (20cm) since 1880 and scientists predict they could rise up to 3ft (98cm) by 2100. But despite the UN’s recent threats of war, famine and extreme weather, such a dramatically different world caused by sea level rise can be hard to imagine. To help picture the future, Martin Vargic, an amateur graphic designer from Slovakia, has created a map depicting the planet with sea levels around 260ft (79m) higher than they are today. He imagines what Earth would look like if the ice sheets surrounding the North and South poles melted, releasing

You´re on the clock:
Doctors rush patients out the door

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USA Today*, by Roni Caryn Rabin    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/21/2014 4:35:59 AM     Post Reply
Joan Eisenstodt didn´t have a stopwatch when she went to see an ear, nose and throat specialist recently, but she is certain the physician was not in the exam room with her for more than three or four minutes. "He looked up my nose, said it was inflamed, told me to see the nurse for a prescription and was gone," said the 66-year-old Washington, D.C., consultant, who was suffering from an acute sinus infection. When she started protesting the doctor´s choice of medication, "He just cut me off totally," she said. "I´ve never been in and out from a visit faster." These days,

Reid: ´We Are a Nation of Laws,
Not of Men and Women´

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Cybercast News Service, by Susan Jones    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/22/2014 10:53:27 AM     Post Reply
It may not be tomorrow, but Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) says "something will happen" to force a Nevada rancher to obey a court order to stop grazing his cattle on federal land and pay his grazing fees. "It´s obvious that you can´t just walk away from this," Reid said in an April 18 interview with a Nevada´s KSNV-TV News 3 program “What’s Your Point?” "You can´t have a law that is -- we´re a nation of laws, not of men and women," he said. (Video) Reid noted that most cattlemen pay their taxes, pay their fees, and follow

The Increasing Desperation of Democrats
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National Review Online, by John Fund    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/21/2014 5:19:02 AM     Post Reply
Harry Reid isn’t backing down from his claim that rancher Cliven Bundy’s supporters are “domestic terrorists.” It’s astonishing rhetoric given the White House’s characterization of the mass shooting by a genuine terrorist, Major Nidal Hasan, who killed 13 Americans at the Fort Hood Army base after yelling “Allahu Akbar!” (God is great.) Rather than labeling Hasan’s actions “domestic terrorism,” the Obama administration is prosecuting him for having committed “workplace violence.” Democratic rhetoric is become ever more desperate and overheated as we approach the November midterm elections. Last week, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said that GOP positions on immigration were motivated by

Fraud runs rampant in Census Bureau
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New York Post, by John Crudele    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/22/2014 5:03:20 AM     Post Reply
There’s a pattern of falsifying statistics throughout the entire Census Bureau. And anyone who attempts to blow the whistle on the fraud is either retaliated against or ignored, according to two new sources who have experienced the process firsthand. As I’ve been writing for more than six months, the Census Bureau office in Philadelphia uncovered a case of fraud in 2010, did nothing about it and allowed the practice to continue. In that instance, a data collector named Julius Buckmon was faking reports that went into the nation’s all-important jobless tally and consumer-inflation survey. Because the Census Bureau’s surveys are scientific — meaning

A rancher´s armed battle against the US
government is standard libertarian fare

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Guardian [UK], by Kieran Suckling    Original Article
Posted By: MissMolly- 4/21/2014 8:10:33 AM     Post Reply
Perhaps the most remarkable feature of American democracy is the magnificent estate of public land that it reserved from the very beginning for the use of all citizens, rich or poor. There is nothing like it in the democracies of Europe, which came into being with nations already carved up into private fiefdoms. The Great Idea that hundreds of millions of acres of forests, deserts, rivers and prairies should be owned by, and managed for, the public interest has had a profound and lasting influence on American culture. But not everyone has accepted it. Cliven Bundy’s armed standoff with the National Park

A Marine´s story: Women set up
to fail USMC’s most grueling test

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ABC News, by Martha Raddatz*    Original Article
Posted By: NorthernDog- 4/21/2014 11:13:10 AM     Post Reply
At a petite 5’3’’, Sage Santangelo may not look like a combat fighter at first glance. But the female second lieutenant has never let that hold her back from pursuing her dream of becoming an infantry officer in the Marine Corps. Growing up, Santangelo found she was always able to keep up with the guys and enjoyed playing hockey on all boys’ teams. But when she joined the Marines, Santangelo found the playing field changed; she was segregated into female-only training units and as a woman, was relegated to less strenuous physical training than her male counterparts. And that’s why,

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