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Judge Orders Colo. Cake-Maker
to Serve Gay Couples

Associated Press, by Ivan Moreno

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Posted By:BaseballFan, 12/6/2013 5:59:48 PM

Denver - A baker who refused to make a wedding cake for a same-sex ceremony must serve gay couples despite his religious beliefs or face fines, a judge said Friday. The order from administrative law judge Robert N. Spencer said Masterpiece Cakeshop in suburban Denver discriminated against a couple "because of their sexual orientation by refusing to sell them a wedding cake for their same-sex marriage." The order says the cake-maker must "cease and desist from discriminating" against gay couples. Although the judge did not impose fines in this case, the business will face penalties if it continues to turn away gay

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And what of Mr. Phillips´ rights? His rights of freedom of his religion? His right to freely associate?

They´re gone. And so are yours. This ruling is so incredibly wrong.

Please do NOT alter a headline. LCom Staff.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: thewarden, 12/6/2013 6:02:45 PM     (No. 9643540)

Make these cakes so bad no one will recommend them for other gay weddings. Problem solved.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: BaseballFan, 12/6/2013 6:06:36 PM     (No. 9643544)

So he sacrifices his craft as well, #1? That´s not the point at all, though I see where you´re coming from.
This ruling is unbelievably bad. I´ve heard that Phillips will likely appeal, but the expense of doing so will likely bankrupt him.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: plex, 12/6/2013 6:15:43 PM     (No. 9643554)

Don´t bake wedding cakes for anybody.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Pros7767, 12/6/2013 6:22:46 PM     (No. 9643557)

So much for freedom in this country. My disgust at the plaintiffs in these suits is immeasurable.

They destroy people to prove a point. There are many bakeries who would be grateful for the business.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: schnapps, 12/6/2013 6:25:24 PM     (No. 9643560)

Just as gays expanded the definition of marriage to same-sex marriage maybe the baker can expand the definition of cake to same-sex cake (with extra fruit, perhaps).

Just trying to find some middle-ground here.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Ranger Applejack Dawson, 12/6/2013 6:26:40 PM     (No. 9643562)

WHAT?????!!!!!!!!!



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Reply 7 - Posted by: zephyrgirl, 12/6/2013 6:28:50 PM     (No. 9643563)

What I despise about the gay "rights" movement is that they´re not content with a "live and let live" approach. They demand that you approve of and celebrate their lifestyles, no matter how perverted.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: tommy411, 12/6/2013 6:35:55 PM     (No. 9643569)

Never p@ss off someone who prepares your food.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Screwgun, 12/6/2013 6:38:03 PM     (No. 9643572)

There are dozens of bakeries in the area that would happy to bake those perverts a cake.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: SaguaroJack, 12/6/2013 6:40:09 PM     (No. 9643574)

America´s idiot judges have wrongly construed the meaning of "right." There is no "right" to have the wedding cake of your choice, much less a "right" to force someone else do what you want.

Such judges need to be thrown off the bench.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Shimmer128, 12/6/2013 6:44:23 PM     (No. 9643578)

So "gay marriage" is constitutionally illegal in CO, but he must make a cake for a gay marriage?? In fact, not even a gay marriage, just a celebration of one. sheesh

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Reply 12 - Posted by: mamafrog, 12/6/2013 6:49:26 PM     (No. 9643582)

You don´t get to say your religion forbids you to sell to people, to treat people, or to teach people.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Cor-vet, 12/6/2013 6:52:27 PM     (No. 9643583)

I´m not the best baker in the world, but every guest at that ´celebration´ would end up with a large case of diarrhea!!!

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Reply 14 - Posted by: bogeegolf, 12/6/2013 7:04:53 PM     (No. 9643592)

How about the golfer that lost his sponsorship because of his
Christian beliefs?

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Reply 15 - Posted by: nevernaught, 12/6/2013 7:09:30 PM     (No. 9643593)

This is a link about what Newt Gingrich said about bad courts and bad Judge decisions. Makes sense to me:

http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/29/newt-gingrichs-judicial-reform-idea-abolish-bad-courts/

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Reply 16 - Posted by: rabid wombat, 12/6/2013 7:09:45 PM     (No. 9643594)

Does that mean I can force a Halal meat market to prepare pork?

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Illinois Mom, 12/6/2013 7:28:22 PM     (No. 9643607)

Before all this Gay marriage stuff I know there were bakeries that refused to make obscene cakes for bachelor/ bachelorette parties.

I think the customers just went elsewhere.

This "fundamental transformation" and deliberate destruction of the middle class American with ANY personal convictions is happening awfully fast.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: DonQuijote, 12/6/2013 7:29:01 PM     (No. 9643608)

17 is on to something. So now Somali cab drivers MUST cater to people who have dogs and alcohol. The precedent has been set. Time to organize the way the left does.

I guarantee you that every militant gay couple is going to demand that that bakery do their wedding cakes, to make a point. So must we all.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Trust No One, 12/6/2013 7:57:46 PM     (No. 9643636)

So ´No Shirt, No Service´ is now out the door?

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Coy860, 12/6/2013 7:59:10 PM     (No. 9643639)

If businesses can post a sign that says no shoes, no shirt, no service it appears that the discretion to serve or not serve has been the decision of the business owners for many years.
Bartenders can refuse to serve anyone they choose at their discretion.
Bakers have the same rights. Can this judge be recalled or impeached?

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Reply 21 - Posted by: fritzilou, 12/6/2013 8:09:21 PM     (No. 9643647)

As Jew if they didn´t want to sell to me because of my religion, I would just go to another bakery. Today everything is a monumental big deal that goes all the way to the Supreme Court. This is not how to win your argument, this is the way to cause resentment. Stupid in my humble opinion. The bakery is individuals and has every right to sell to whomever they please. They need only to say they cant handle the order. They are just being punished for being honest.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: TruthAndJustice, 12/6/2013 8:12:53 PM     (No. 9643652)

Did the judge just "fist" them for not making a gay cake???

Did you even have any idea what that term meant before Obama? No, you did not...

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Reply 23 - Posted by: curious1, 12/6/2013 8:14:38 PM     (No. 9643653)

The locals need to deal with that admin law judge who has overstepped the bounds of their authority. Allowing the concept that a judge is unconstrained by whatever decision their whim may cause them to make is how you come to this fork in the road. I´d suggest the locals pull this ones horns in significantly.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: hoosiergirl71, 12/6/2013 8:25:01 PM     (No. 9643665)

There is no law for this judge to cite that is valid. He has rewritten the definition of ´discrimination´. There is nothing harmful or hateful or injurous in saying no to a solicitation for your product. That judge should be removed from the bench!

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Reply 25 - Posted by: saguni, 12/6/2013 8:26:30 PM     (No. 9643666)

They are being punished for being honest.

Henceforth, all small businesses operated by people with a sense of morality should chat up their customers to find out exactly what kind of celebration they are planning, then check a computer calendar and state, "Oh, drat, I already have a booking (or two) for that date, I´m sorry, but my workload will not permit my adding your event."

And then, later, if the same "customer" finds out you booked someone else after refusing them, say "I had a cancellation, but I thought you would have found another vendor by time time my previous party cancelled."

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Reply 26 - Posted by: mitzi, 12/6/2013 8:27:43 PM     (No. 9643669)

I think if I were obligated to do this, my plan of action would be:

1. Raise prices on all wedding cakes.

2. Donate the amount of the increase to the National Organization for Marriage.

And, post a sign in the window with that information.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: SnowQueen, 12/6/2013 8:40:53 PM     (No. 9643679)

Simple: No more wedding cakes. That doesn´t mean that some of his customers can´t choose from his new collection of tiered birthday cakes, though ... assuming he´s got room on his calendar.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 12/6/2013 8:54:16 PM     (No. 9643693)

This is a travesty. His rights of conscience and religion are being trampled, so someone else doesn´t have to feel bad.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: texascunning, 12/6/2013 9:04:20 PM     (No. 9643705)

I like the way #27 thinks.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: KarenJ1, 12/6/2013 9:17:42 PM     (No. 9643715)

Why didn´t his lawyer counter sue immediately after the lawsuit was filed for violation of his First Amendment rights? In today´s world it appears certain segments of society are more equal than others. Unfortunately, the evil, malicious individuals on the left live for these scenarios and have teams of lawyers (most likely paid for by individuals like Soros) ready to file these lawsuits. I wouldn´t be surprised if some of them are staged to create these situations. That small percentage of society is wreaking havoc on our society. There needs to be a major uprising to stop this insanity.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: nevernaught, 12/6/2013 10:37:25 PM     (No. 9643775)

If judges are going to make rulings like this, then lie to the people who want to order the Same sex cake. Tell them that you aren´t making wedding cakes anymore. Then suggest another cake maker you know who does make them. Then spread the rumor that the baker you sent them to makes weird wedding cakes for gay people. That ought to set things right.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: MissMann, 12/7/2013 1:32:33 AM     (No. 9643859)

Why in the world would anyone want to give their money to a business that doesn´t want to serve them?

My poor, poor beloved country.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: StuartL, 12/7/2013 4:55:40 AM     (No. 9643897)

#13 -- "You don´t get to say your religion forbids you to sell to people, to treat people, or to teach people"

Unless, of course, your name is Mahmoud or Hassan.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: ROLFnader, 12/7/2013 10:15:18 AM     (No. 9644226)

Okay Colorado- Do for the first amendment what you did a few weeks ago for the second. Like most tasks, it gets easier the second time.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: ruready?, 12/7/2013 3:12:50 PM     (No. 9644534)

There is a big difference between what a society permits and what it promotes. Go do you "gay thing" and leave others out of it.

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About six in ten American voters think Barack Obama lies to the country on important matters some or most of the time, according to a Fox News poll released Wednesday. Thirty-seven percent think Obama lies “most of the time,” while another 24 percent say he lies “some of the time.” Twenty percent of voters say “only now and then” and 15 percent “never.” Click here for the poll results. President Obama has been accused by political opponents and media fact-checkers alike of telling falsehoods. Frequently cited: His repeated claim that under Obamacare “If you like your plan, you can keep

Pelosi assists in Holy Week
foot-washing ritual

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San Francisco Chronicle, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: Harlowe- 4/18/2014 11:46:54 AM     Post Reply
To "honor the dignity and work of immigrants," Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi helps Bishop Marc Andrus wash the feet of two children Thursday at Saint John the Evangelist Episcopal Church in San Francisco. Pelosi also used the occasion to talk about passing HR15 - bipartisan immigration legislation that her office says would "reduce the deficit by nearly $1 trillion, secure our borders, unite our families, protect our workers and provide an earned pathway to citizenship." The Democratic leader´s ceremony coincides with Pope Francis´ similar ceremony in Rome to mark Holy Week.

Illinois Dems to offer $100 million in
taxpayer money to lure Obama library site

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Investor´s Business Daily, by Andrew Malcolm    Original Article
Posted By: SurferLad- 4/18/2014 9:15:50 AM     Post Reply
First, the good news: We are close enough to the end of the Obama presidency for his crowd to talk about a presidential library. Now, the bad news: Obama´s retirement is still 1,008 days distant. Plenty of time though to round up the dough to build it somewhere. Figure they need Solyndra-style money, at least $500 million. The last two presidents – Bill Clinton and George W. Bush -- built their legacy edifices totally with private money. [Snip] However, Obama supporters have a different take. They think taxpayers should put up $100 million in public money for Obama´s library.


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