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Americans Rate JFK as
Top Modern President

Gallup, by Andrew Dugan and Frank Newport

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Posted By:congaree53, 11/16/2013 2:01:32 PM

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Some 50 years after John F. Kennedy´s sole presidential term was cut short by an assassin´s bullets, nearly three-quarters of Americans believe Kennedy will go down in history as an outstanding or above-average president. This is the highest retrospective rating given to any of the 11 presidents who have held office since Dwight Eisenhower. Another fifth of the public sees the slain president as average, while just 3% rank him as below average or poor. Kennedy was killed on Nov. 22, 1963, and the 50-year anniversary of his assassination is being marked by a bevy of new

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JFK, Reagan and Clinton top three. Obama and Bush Jr. nowhere to be found

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: tren9, 11/16/2013 2:07:02 PM     (No. 9616510)

JFK was not Prez long enough to achieve greatness. His claim to fame is that he was killed while in office.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Wetlandz, 11/16/2013 2:10:39 PM     (No. 9616513)

Symbolism over substance yet we see why 2012 went the way it did.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: MattMusson, 11/16/2013 2:11:02 PM     (No. 9616515)

He was a terrible president. Anyone remember the bay of pigs?

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Reply 4 - Posted by: kanphil, 11/16/2013 2:15:10 PM     (No. 9616523)

More evidence of our failed education system...

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Phosphene, 11/16/2013 2:16:14 PM     (No. 9616524)

"Most Americans" couldn´t name a single policy during the JFK administration.

Der uhh ´ask not what your country can do for you´ and uhhhh ´he got shot, right?´

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Reply 6 - Posted by: SoCalGal, 11/16/2013 2:16:56 PM     (No. 9616526)

Absurd.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: mfm, 11/16/2013 2:18:52 PM     (No. 9616527)

sex freak and drug addict..killed in office..those are the credentials of a great President? Guess so

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Susannah, 11/16/2013 2:19:32 PM     (No. 9616528)

Don´t forget that the press adored the man, and has been frantically burnishing the Camelot myth for the past half-century.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: 1976Ag, 11/16/2013 2:26:04 PM     (No. 9616537)

Kennedy achieved nothing. He was just attractive to the ladies. The crook LBJ got the socialist agenda passed. Reagan was the absolute best!


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Reply 10 - Posted by: Penney, 11/16/2013 2:26:42 PM     (No. 9616538)

Early in the last century, Bernays demonstrably proved propaganda sells cigarettes, soap, ...and political agendas, eh? The Kennedy myth continues to be recycled.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: tnorling, 11/16/2013 2:33:13 PM     (No. 9616541)

The truth will, eventually, out. If there is one person responsible for the dire economic times we are living in, it is due to JFK - who allowed public sector labor unions. FDR knew better... as did our Founding Fathers... who, to paraphrase, said once people learn how to vote themselves money, the Republic is gone. It´s amazing it´s lasted this long... Only fifty years after JFK´s brilliant move, we´re in the bidet, heading for the toilet... Major moves made to be made, and I don´t see Casper Milquetoast a.k.a. Boehner leading the way.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: tnorling, 11/16/2013 2:37:33 PM     (No. 9616544)

Having said that... JFK was lukewarm on black rights, lowered taxes to get the country out of a mild recession, took a stand in Vietnam to deter the communists, had a brother who was best pals with McCarthy, was a serial womanizer... in today´s world, a typical Republican (hear that Boehner?).

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Reply 13 - Posted by: tnorling, 11/16/2013 2:39:53 PM     (No. 9616547)

I can´t stop. The real tragedy of J.F.K. is that he is still considered a great president: a horrifying assessment of a disastrous presidency. Do the parents of the 50K killed in Vietnam agree?

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Reply 14 - Posted by: KTWO, 11/16/2013 2:47:03 PM     (No. 9616551)

Poll taken at a convenient time if you want to elevate JFK. PBS and networks have been running hours and hours about how wonderful he was.

I don´t think the better Presidents can be ranked. It is the ones who really mess up that people can accurately assess.

JFK? The US has certainly done worse many times.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: whyyeseyec, 11/16/2013 2:52:17 PM     (No. 9616554)

JFK botched the Bay of Pigs invasion in 1961, which lead to the Cuban Missile Crises in 1962. That is the closest we have come to thermonuclear war since the invention of the A-bomb.

Americans seem to know little of history.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: bamapreacher, 11/16/2013 2:53:14 PM     (No. 9616556)

Consider for a moment that JFK´s successor carried out most of his plans, then think about where LBJ should rank among presidents. My guess would be somewhere about the 40th.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Mike PHX, 11/16/2013 2:56:59 PM     (No. 9616557)

We will always live in the land of the lofo´s.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: enemyofthestate, 11/16/2013 2:57:44 PM     (No. 9616558)

Yeah, I spose getting assassinated gets him a higher rating. His presidency was so short that we´ll never know how good or not good he was. There seem to have been a lot of Clintonesque shenanigans, both political and personal.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Namma, 11/16/2013 3:28:10 PM     (No. 9616578)

I guess the remark he made would make him the top modern prez. He said if he didn´t have sex once a day he got a headache. Oh wait. Then their is billybobclinton. Geez. It´s a tough call.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: pickle1, 11/16/2013 3:40:28 PM     (No. 9616587)

More tripe.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: jofel, 11/16/2013 3:43:00 PM     (No. 9616589)

#7 & 12, totally agree he was a womanizer similar to Clinton. For that reason I just cannot watch any of the JFK pontification that has been on TV recently. No respect left for that guy alone.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: JoElla Bee, 11/16/2013 3:49:17 PM     (No. 9616601)

One of JFK´s "passions" was immigration reform.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: catfur27, 11/16/2013 4:00:55 PM     (No. 9616610)

...HOW can that be...don´t the demsheep know he was in "the 1% " ??!!

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Reply 24 - Posted by: cjjeepercreeper, 11/16/2013 4:07:00 PM     (No. 9616615)

Because of his ineptness (sound familiar?) the world was almost turned into a smoking ball of nuclear waste. I guess to some people that must be a good thing.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Boneshaker, 11/16/2013 4:12:11 PM     (No. 9616620)

No surprise.

here are the same unthinking people who sent Obama to the White House twice.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: hoosiergirl71, 11/16/2013 4:17:30 PM     (No. 9616629)

Gee, brainwashing really does work!

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Reply 27 - Posted by: wsdiego, 11/16/2013 4:21:03 PM     (No. 9616637)

He cut taxes! Works every time!

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Reply 28 - Posted by: donkeyhotay, 11/16/2013 4:31:56 PM     (No. 9616651)

Amazing what a little historical revisionism and time will do.

When he was POTUS, JFK was not popular except, of course, among the fawning media and diehard Dems.

His giant screw-up at the Bay of Pigs left much of America in disbelief.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: santokitime, 11/16/2013 4:40:21 PM     (No. 9616660)

JFK was a phoney spoiled son of a commie lover.

Gets a little credit for reducing tax´s in a mild economic downturn.

His Bay of Pigs crap set up the Cuban crisis.

Got us involved in Vietnam that was as stupid as the Bush unwarranted attack on Iraq.

Since the late 40´s Obama, LBJ, Carter, and GWB were just as bad as JFK in terms of Foreign Policy.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: bob913, 11/16/2013 4:50:15 PM     (No. 9616669)

Ah yes we Americans long for the good ol days where we had a guy in the White House who almost got us in a nuclear war and helped start the Vietnam war.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: BeatleJeff, 11/16/2013 4:52:04 PM     (No. 9616672)

I´m sure these numbers will drop once the Baby Boomers start dying off. He was dispatched before we GenExers were born, so we aren´t saddled with that emotional baggage and can see him more for what he was rather than what the Camelot myth-makers want us to believe.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: Iraengneer, 11/16/2013 4:57:26 PM     (No. 9616676)

he´s been dead for 50 years. Most people polled weren´t **born** yet! You´d have to be mid-60´s at least just to remember him. On what basis is he to be adjudged worthwhile, other than aging hagiograhers flogging crappy books?
And limiting the field to the 11 who followed Eisenhower is fixing the contest just a bit, don´t you think?

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Megrits, 11/16/2013 5:21:07 PM     (No. 9616692)

Public education propaganda. I´m sorry the guy got killed. But, one of the best presidents? Don´t think so. The leftist media puts us thru this every November. I wish I didn´t have to ever look again at a magazine with the fairy tale couple smiling happily down upon their kingdom. He was just another spoiled rotten, drugged up daddy´s boy. Doubt he´d have seen the inside of the Oval Office without him. If he had lived long enuf, I often wonder what route he´d have taken? Abortion loving, gay marriage, anti american, "one percenter", like his "beloved" brother Ted who decided to let MaryJo Kopechne drown rather than hurt is precious career?? Guess we´ll never know.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: yorkiemom, 11/16/2013 5:43:41 PM     (No. 9616720)

To the posters blaming the public education system, please. Some educators probably held Kennedy to high esteem, but many of us didn´t. I would say the media are more to blame and still are. Most loved him just asthey love Obama today and hid all of his flaws. Today´s youth probably love the fact that Kennedy slept with a movie star. That´s as good as Miley Cyrus twerking.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: Balogreene, 11/16/2013 6:01:03 PM     (No. 9616748)

I am not mid-sixties, and I remember parents and neighbors debating who was better, Nixon or Kennedy. For all his faults, he gave energy to putting a man on the moon, he did cut taxes, and he loved his country.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: Japanorama, 11/16/2013 6:32:18 PM     (No. 9616776)

Only an easily charmed idiot would think so.
During WWII, while a military attache in D.C., he had an affair with a pro-Nazi Danish citizen. He cheated on his wife repeatedly. He got the U.S. involved in the Bay of Pigs fiasco, then he involved the U.S. in Vietnam, which cost the lives of over 50,000 American youths. He almost got the U.S. involved in a nuclear war with the Soviet Union during the Cuban Missile Crisis. I could go on, but JFK bores me.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: eoddad, 11/16/2013 6:50:24 PM     (No. 9616796)

As someone who taught college students for over 3 years it does not surprise me the poll came out this way. A vast majority of my students were clueless to history and they have grown up with the myth of Camelot being force feed.


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Reply 38 - Posted by: congaree53, 11/16/2013 7:01:14 PM     (No. 9616810)

Look how high Slick Willy rated. Womanizers 1st and 3rd and Reagan snadwiched in-between

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Reply 39 - Posted by: dovestar, 11/16/2013 8:00:38 PM     (No. 9616871)

I was born in ´67, so don´t ask me where I was when JFK was shot. I wasn´t around and neither were a large percentage of the population born after and I don´t much care. I read an excerpt of the hero-making propaganda PT109 in Catholic school but know the real saga of the man is not so heroic. But then again I have long been able to think for myself. Phony stories and celebrity status do not a hero make.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: nimby, 11/16/2013 8:24:11 PM     (No. 9616886)

Who are these Americans? The 18-27 year olds? He was a womanizer who shared his mistress with the mafia head, botched the bay of pigs and showed nepotism by appointing his brother as the attorney general. As #1 said, his only rise to fame was that he was assassinated while in office.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: Distorted, 11/16/2013 9:16:02 PM     (No. 9616919)

I knew JFK, and he was no JFK.

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Reply 42 - Posted by: grounded, 11/16/2013 9:41:46 PM     (No. 9616932)

Re VietNam, JFK, as did Eisenhower before him, had several hundred "advisers" in country allegedly helping train the ARVN. It took LBJ an the wake of the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution in 1964 to really get the escalation of American involvement. To the tune of over half a million pairs of boots on the ground by 1966. I´ve always placed the deaths of 58,000,000 plus American servicemen at LBJ´s feet for the monstrous lie and the manufactured hysteria he concocted about the phony naval attack in the Gulf of Tonkin.

As for the rest of JFK´s legacy, the only noteworthy thing he ever accomplished was intercepting a speeding bullet with his head.

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Reply 43 - Posted by: beamer, 11/17/2013 5:03:44 AM     (No. 9617067)

The lame stream press always referred to his administration as Camelot....to me that is where they sell used camels. They smell bad!

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Daily Mail (U.K.), by Staff    Original Article
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Toddlers show racial bias when picking playmates, a study reveals. They also take account of how fairly others behave. Researchers tested the reaction of white 15-month-olds as toys were distributed. Two white adults divided the toys, one equally and the other unequally. Seventy per cent of the toddlers chose to play with the researcher who distributed the toys fairly. But in a second test, when one researcher favoured a white recipient over an Asian one, they picked the ‘fair’ researcher less often, the journal Frontiers in Psychology reports. And the babies are more likely to help those who share the same ethnicity, which is known as

Elizabeth Warren whines about coverage
of her fraudulent Indian claim

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Daily Caller, by Patrick Howley    Original Article
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Democratic Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren wrote in her forthcoming book that she was “hurt” and “angry” by 2012 reporting on her fraudulent claim to Native American heritage. “What really threw me, though, were the constant attacks from the other side,” Warren wrote in her book “A Fighting Chance.” “I would almost persuade myself that I was starting to get the hang of full-throttle campaigning and then — bam! Out of left field, the state Republican Party, or the Brown campaign, or some blogger, would launch a rocket at me,” Warren wrote, adding, ”I was stunned by the attacks.” This reporter (blogger?) reported extensively

Former US president joins
opposition to Keystone XL

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Houston Chronicle, by Jennifer A. Dlouhy    Original Article
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WASHINGTON — Former President Jimmy Carter joined fellow Nobel laureates Wednesday in opposing Keystone XL, insisting that approving the pipeline would trigger “more climate upheaval” around the globe. In an open letter to President Barack Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry, Carter and the nine other Nobel Peace Prize winners bluntly warned the leaders: “Your decision on the Keystone XL tar sands pipeline will define your climate legacy.” The missive, published as an advertisement in Politico, represents the first time Carter has taken a position on the $5.4 billion project and makes him the first former president to come

White is not right: Campus admins ask
for help weeding out white people

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Daily Caller, by Robby Soave    Original Article
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Western Washington University sent a questionnaire to students asking them for advice on how the administration could succeed at making sure that in future years, “we are not as white as we are today.” The question notes that WWU’s racial make up does not perfectly reflect the nation at large, and asks students to consider strategies that other universities have used to focus on skin color as the paramount indicator of a student-applicant’s worth. The president of WWU has stated that his explicit goal is to reduce the white population on campus, according to Campus Reform. “I’ve said before and I’ll say it

Progressive Insurance
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National Review Online, by Victor Davis Hanson    Original Article
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How do you ensure that you won’t be ostracized, denounced, or fired if you are a media celebrity, captain of industry, or high public official? For some, sexist banter is certainly no problem. Stand-up comedian Bill Maher called Sarah Palin a c–t and a tw-t, but suffered no ill consequences. David Letterman joked on air that Sarah Palin’s 14-year-old daughter had had sex with Alex Rodriguez during a New York Yankees game. There was no downside to that either. President Obama tosses around “sweetie” as he wishes. No problem with that. No one believes Barack could be condescending to women.

Rev. Al Sharpton’s Easter message:
Politically ‘crucified’ Obama has risen again

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Washington Times, by Jessica Chasmar    Original Article
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With Easter soon approaching, the Rev. Al Sharpton on Wednesday drew parallels between the resurrection of Jesus Christ and the resurrection of President Obama’s political career. Joining the “Tom Joyner Morning Show,” Mr. Sharpton said that his message for this Easter is that “no matter what the world may do to you unfairly, no matter how you’re crucified — nailed to the cross at home, or in your personal relationships, or on the job — that you can rise if you don’t lose yourself during the hard times and the challenges.” The reverend went on to say that Christ endured so much humiliation and unearned suffering leading up to his death,

Wendy Davis will undergo neck surgery
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Star-Telegram [Fort Worth TX], by Anna M. Tinsley    Original Article
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FORT WORTH — Democratic gubernatorial candidate Wendy Davis will undergo neck surgery today, her campaign said Tuesday. “After experiencing shoulder and right arm pain in recent weeks, Sen. Davis will have a routine surgical procedure to remove bone spurs and degenerative discs that are creating compression on the nerves in her neck,” campaign spokesman Zac Petkanas said in a statement Tuesday. “This is a common issue experienced by runners and endurance athletes,” he said. Davis, of Fort Worth, will undergo the outpatient surgery at the Fort Worth Brain and Spine Institute. Dr. Thomas Ellis will perform the


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