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Democrats Up in 2014 Vent Their
Obamacare Anger in White House
Meeting (Updated)

Roll Call, by Stephen Dennis

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Posted By:FlyRight, 11/7/2013 6:49:59 AM

President Barack Obama heard an earful at the White House Wednesday from Senate Democrats running for re-election next year who are fuming about the Affordable Care Act’s rocky rollout.During a two-hour meeting that was not on the president’s public schedule, the president met with 15 Senate Democrats facing the voters next year, as well as Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee Chairman Michael Bennet, D-Colo. Sen. Mark Begich of Alaska issued a release after the meeting torching the administration. “It is simply unacceptable for Alaskans to bear the brunt of the Administration’s mismanagement of the implementation of the Affordable Care Act and

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Judith, 11/7/2013 6:58:47 AM     (No. 9602414)

More kabuki theater? The dems swept this last election (and yes, I´m including christie in that). This country lost its way, I think forever, in the 2012 election. The republicans are incapable of offering an alternative to the lunatics in the dem party, they have decided to emulate them. And why not? They get all the goodies while remaining gutless cowards.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: mws50, 11/7/2013 7:03:22 AM     (No. 9602417)

Sen. Mark Begich of Alaska you voted for the bill, without reading or understanding it. you got what you voted for.

You and your fellow democrats need to enjoy your cr*p sandwich.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Joe Btfsplk, 11/7/2013 7:04:26 AM     (No. 9602419)

Not to worry... Barry the Campaigner has got just what you need... more Barry! Just take your ObamaCare hit and enjoy the ride.



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Reply 4 - Posted by: Rinktum, 11/7/2013 7:08:14 AM     (No. 9602421)

Oh, please. You guys wanted this. You begged, you bribed, and you pushed this abomination through in the dead of night and now you have buyer´s remorse? Excuse me a moment while I attempt to repair my I Don´t Give A Darn meter. What a bunch of whining hypocrites. This is YOUR baby. It was YOUR responsibility to read and understand the law you were so eager to push down our throats. It was YOUR responsibility to make sure the rollout was successful. You couldn´t pick up the phone and check on it, the most comprehensive piece of legislation in the history of this country? Please. You may fool your constituents but you fool no thinking person. The ONLY concern is for your own sorry policital career. If you were concerned about the people you represent you would have done your due diligence and at the very least READ the bill. Actions have consequences and you are about to experience that in spades first hand.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: wildwood, 11/7/2013 7:08:48 AM     (No. 9602422)

What´s most despicable is that the only Leftists rising up to protest the abhorrent treatment of citizens are the ones who are UP FOR REELECTION. Translation: When it´s in our own self interest, we might do something.

Most appalling was Harkin´s comment that it´s a matter of civic responsibility for old people to pay maternity fees.

Where does that train stop with that excuse?

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Reply 6 - Posted by: littleorby, 11/7/2013 7:19:34 AM     (No. 9602439)

Tis a pity the senators, both democrats AND republicans in Washington, are not as intense about protecting the general welfare of America as they are in their own reelections.

Truly, the chambers of congress in Washington, which are filled with empty suits, can be compared to carbuncles filled with pus.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Boston Tea Party, 11/7/2013 7:24:37 AM     (No. 9602445)

No, #2. WE got what he voted for. HE got a government subsidy to pay for this atrocity.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Janjan, 11/7/2013 7:38:48 AM     (No. 9602466)

The website is the tip of the iceberg. If it ever becomes fully functional you will be hearing the outraged roar from every corner of the country. Even the new Medicaid enrollees who will now get their healthcare courtesy of the taxpayers will find themselves searching for a doctor who will see them - even hundreds of miles from home. This ain´t over.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Midnight Rambler, 11/7/2013 7:42:50 AM     (No. 9602470)

These dimocrat punks aren´t worried about anything except their reelection. It´s certainly not this disaster of a law.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: planetgeo, 11/7/2013 7:54:24 AM     (No. 9602486)

As bad as the Obamacare debacle has been and will be for the Democrats, and for the country, it will indeed get worse. Just as the Democrats are headed for a crushing defeat, the cavalry is about to rush in at the very last minute and save them. Who am I talking about? Hillary? No. The Republicans.

The Republicans have been mesmerized and wined and dined by the crony capitalist lobby to swoop in and be ready to give the Democrats a permanent, unbeatable majority by granting amnesty (and unquestioned voting rights) to about 30,000,000 new voters. Breathtakingly stupid doesn´t begin to describe the Stupid Party.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Fiesta del sol, 11/7/2013 7:59:13 AM     (No. 9602493)

Was Kay Hagan (NC, D) there? Because she sure won´t show her face ANYWHERE in NC. In the runup to the Obamacare cram down, Hagan held no town halls, and made very few public appearances. She shows up at union shops, teachers meetings, but that´s about it. But she still has time for her Lord and Savior, Barack Hussein.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Ranger Applejack Dawson, 11/7/2013 7:59:49 AM     (No. 9602495)

Phony theatrics and typical politician´s CYA.

This is the Democrats´ bill - lock, stock and barrel.

THEY didn´t read it; THEY voted for it; THEY defended it it... all the way up to the point where the TRUTH about this Socialist monstrosity started to affect their re-election and suddenly now all the faux indignation.

The only saving grace for the Democrats is that Republicans are equally despicable.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Deedo, 11/7/2013 8:52:56 AM     (No. 9602584)

I cannot recall a single moment where the Republicans made any effort to support Obamacare. Not a single republican voted for it, and the House have passed dozens of votes to repeal it (none of which was allowed to proceed in the Senate by Reid of course).

I´m not sure what those with withering criticism of the republicans want them to do that they haven´t done. The talk of amnesty for illegals by republicans certainly deserves withering criticism, but my $0.02 is that its not deserved when it comes to the GOP re: Obamacare.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Namma, 11/7/2013 8:54:24 AM     (No. 9602587)

must be re-election time..the dems motto.....promise the voters anything..then give them what WE want.....

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Reply 15 - Posted by: OhMy, 11/7/2013 8:55:08 AM     (No. 9602590)

Translation: There is no problem no matter how much difficulty it causes citizens as long as democrats don´t have to face the votes and explain it.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: M2, 11/7/2013 9:10:38 AM     (No. 9602614)

This article tells me that those Democrats are ONLY concerned about extending the time allowed to citizens to sign up without penalty. There seems also to be some concern about security problems.

But not a word about the millions who lost their insurance and their doctors. Not a word about the very idea of stealing health care from people who were perfectly happy with their plans.

And therein lies the problem: For Democrats, it´s okay to implement Obamacare for everyone in the country, like it or not. But for Republicans, it´s not okay to steal the health care plans and doctor-patient relationships from people who were happy with what they had.

What is wrong with just implementing O´Care for people who want it and leaving the rest of us alone?

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Reply 17 - Posted by: stryker714, 11/7/2013 9:16:12 AM     (No. 9602621)

Knowing what we do about Obama´s Nazi jack boot approach to leadership, he probably told them in his own way to suck it up and get into lockstep-everything gonna be ok with their elections and stuff like that. Obama-he say they got a secret weapon-gonna send out fake reinstatement notices a few days before 2014 elections(lol).

The administration has little private emergency meetings like this, when the walls are closing in- ie the private meeting with the press when his buffet of scandals were beginning to froth over. Many would love to hear what is said-better than any soap opera.

One has to wonder if the Obama admin would keep the ACA website dysfunctional though the 2014 elections, knowing what is to come once it does work, would do more damage to democrats than just a broken site.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: 2dogs, 11/7/2013 9:20:38 AM     (No. 9602628)

Of more significance to me is the GOP. They have gone silent on everything. Biggest advantage they´ve had in years and they are blowing it already.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: peterfleming, 11/7/2013 9:20:49 AM     (No. 9602631)

They´re like a gang of drunks, the morning after, bitterly, stupidly, complaining that the unreal numbers of drinks they drank we´re too strong. Pointless fools. But hey, at least they went to the right guy, the prevaricator who planned the over imbibing mess.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: bigfatslob, 11/7/2013 9:37:19 AM     (No. 9602655)

A bit of optimism for the communist democrats here it is.
The RINOs and the RNC will help keep you in power, it´s what they do.
McCain and his ilk will campaign for you and with the voter fraud in place there´s nothing to worry about.
You just have the ´gitters´ but it will pass because Republicans have a knack for snapping defeat from the jaws of victory. They didn´t even protest and make statements about the Obamacare monstrosity when they had the chance.
You communist democrats will win the WH when they roll out the Pufferfish Meatloaf Chris Christie in 2016. Not to worry! Be happy.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: GOPSecretary, 11/7/2013 9:39:45 AM     (No. 9602661)

The GOP has a clear message but will have to find a way to circumvent the press to get it out. Nothing holding a press conference no one shows up.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: brianod1, 11/7/2013 9:47:57 AM     (No. 9602674)

Let me see if I understand - when it is pointed out to these D Seantors that Obamacare will hurt their constituents, the answer is, ´too bad, shut down the government.´ When it is pointed out to these same Senators that Obamacare will hurt their own reelection chances , it has to be delayed? Screw them.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Udanja99, 11/7/2013 9:58:00 AM     (No. 9602696)

If any of the Republicans running against these demoncrats next year runs on anything other than 0bamacare, they are fools. This should be the only issue and the only subject for all of their ads. Every ad should begin with video of zippy´s most notorious lie and then proceed to hammer the incumbent who voted for the bill. Cram 0bamacare back down their throats like they crammed it down ours. The 2014 elections should be about nothing else. If our guys do this, the "shellacking" zippy took in 2010 will look like a garden party in comparison.

Get smart, Republicans!

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Wakeupcall, 11/7/2013 10:05:30 AM     (No. 9602721)

Waste of time Americans.

With the Marxist democrats winning in VA by the votes of upper middle class voters in northern Va as DC suburbs with average incomes of $200,000 annually

They mostly work for government or are lobbyists for those who want something from government.

The party of the working man is the party of the wealthy.

Talk about a sucker being born every minute. Those suckers are those who believe they love the lower class workers and takers.

Someday the taxpayers will revolt if they have a brain. Just don´t hold your breath while waiting as most who do not follow the Marxist democrats do not have the guts to fight back against tyranny by the Marxist democrats.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Holeymoses, 11/7/2013 10:48:32 AM     (No. 9602804)

Give them the whole floor show #18, front and center. The public is awakening and will vent their anger at those very players- the Democrats.

As for the ´save us´ whiners pleading with Obama, it gladdens the heart. Sorry guys, Reid has his orders.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Memphis, 11/7/2013 10:53:12 AM     (No. 9602808)

Let em keep fighting and screaming because we have seen nothing yet.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Butch59, 11/7/2013 11:53:44 AM     (No. 9602914)

There are many good posts today on the plight of the dims and what pubies simply won´t do. It´s as if the pubies run their campaigns as if it was 50yrs in the past. They don´t seem to realize that the dim party of today is NOT the dim party of yesteryear. Even JFK wouldn´t be allowed in today´s dim party. Today, all they are are communists. Plain and simple.

And I´ve come to think that a number of LCom posters would make great campaign managers for those who will be running to upseat the dims next year. At the least, they have great ideas about what should be campaign issues and what doesn´t work. Telling the public truth just might work for a change.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: Ida Lou Pino, 11/7/2013 12:04:52 PM     (No. 9602950)

I beg to differ with Post #12.

Yes - - the Pubbies are despicable - - totally despicable - - but they´re despicable in a fuzzy, cute kind of way.

On the other hand - - the demonrats are pure evil.

So the despicability factors are not equal - - not even close.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: bighambone, 11/7/2013 12:17:28 PM     (No. 9602968)

If the Republicans were more then the Stupid Party they would be educating the American public at every turn that the Obama Care fiasco is the Democrat´s baby, lock, stock, and barrel and that it was the Democrats on a party line vote who created Obama Care and by extension its sad aftermath, with not one Republican voting for it.

It is being pointed out now that 119 million Americans with employer based health care insurance could well loose their health care insurance during 2014 because of Obama Care federal regulations that will cause the insurance companies to cancel their plans.

If that were to happen the Democrats would be wiped out in the November 2014 election. So what are a lot of the Republicans doing about that, they are calling for the Obama Care provisions to be postponed until after the 2014 election thus throwing the Democrats a political lifeline that will keep the Democrats from having to answer for the Obama Care fiasco in the 2014 election. You can´t beat that for being stupid.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: strike3, 11/7/2013 1:16:39 PM     (No. 9603075)

Obamacare is like a loaded machine gun with the safety off that gets dropped on the floor. It´s going to shoot whoever is closest to the disaster without regard to party affiliation, race, religion, or sexual orientation.

Enjoy the show, it´s only beginning for these dimwits. My only concern is the people with medical conditions who have been seperated from their healthcare.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: chance_232, 11/7/2013 3:12:33 PM     (No. 9603249)

Those DEMOCRAT senators VOTED for Obamacare. They defended it, they told us that they had to pass it so that we could find out what´s in it. They told us that they had to pass it sto save the economy. They told us that it´s mear passage would stimulate the economy and cause 400,000 people to be hired immediatly. They told us that our healthcare costs would go down $2500.00 annually.

They LIED. They knowingly lied. They voted for this and they OWN it. Democrats passed it, Democrats implemented it and democrats are running it.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 11/7/2013 4:52:51 PM     (No. 9603399)

Well, that´s what you get when you don´t read something before you sign it, or vote for it.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Ida Lil, 11/7/2013 5:23:56 PM     (No. 9603452)

Those same Senators never questioned the illegal unconstitutional introduction of that bill!
They didn´t bother to know the origin n did they care.They only saw a major power grab.
Now they should pay the price.
The entire scam reminds me of a childhood nonsense ditty--- I went to the animal fair--- The birds and bees were there-- The big baboon by the light of the moon was combing his auburn hair (red in this case. This senate made as much sense did they?

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Reply 34 - Posted by: judy, 11/7/2013 6:19:27 PM     (No. 9603511)

They voted for a bill they didn´t read & now they are angry. Funny! They should be required to campaign for the bill instead of using tax payer $$$ to promote the junk.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: Dodge Boy, 11/7/2013 6:46:34 PM     (No. 9603533)

Poor babies..having to stew in their own fat now. What to do, lefties? Hint -get out and get real job.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: Polecat49, 11/7/2013 9:57:56 PM     (No. 9603767)

If those so-called democRATS had voted for the American People instead of kissing zero´s feet and another part of his body they would be a lot better off.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: JediJerry, 11/7/2013 10:53:16 PM     (No. 9603846)

What´s the old saying....you reap what you sow? Well guess what. Demonrats have sown misery from sea to shining sea. These gutless cowards need to realize that their Dear Beloved Leader does not give a rats patootee about their re-elections. They are totally expendable in his mind. Expendable they will be. Just like the Japanese awakened a sleeping dragon when they bombed Pearl Harbor, so to have the Democrats and their Zero Hero awakened a sleeping mama grizzly bear and she is mad as hell. Virginia was a GOP bombshell and my bet is Priebus will be a goner by the end of this year. I nominate Mark Levin as the new RNC Chairman. Anyone second?

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Reply 38 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 11/8/2013 1:05:53 PM     (No. 9604602)

Blah, blah. It´s just spoilt kiddies whining at stern MaMa who is making them eat their spinach. Boo, freaking Hoo! They´ll run right back to the Reid (Daddy) Senate and shut up and vote how they are ordered. Making their future secure is not importnat at all to these drunken leaders. It´s the agenda- Always the agenda.

Cowards get what cowards deserve. And boy, do they deserve it.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: Amanoftwistsandturns, 11/9/2013 10:07:07 AM     (No. 9605735)

Let em burn..don´t delay Obamacare

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Posted By: EveningStar- 4/16/2014 7:24:05 PM     Post Reply
Like him or hate him, there is no disputing that Rush Limbaugh’s very special brand of mixing right-wing politics with his flare for entertainment has produced one of the most successful radio programs in the medium’s long history. Whatever the burning political question of the day, millions of Americans have relished the opportunity to tune into Rush’s program, knowing that he would quickly take that hot potato, throw a few gallons of verbal kerosene into the mix and elevate the matter into a five alarm fire with a just a few well-chosen words spoken in the style only Rush Limbaugh could

Biden Tells Boston Bombing
Survivors, ´It Was Worth It´ (Video)

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Breitbart´s Instablog, by Debra Heine    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/15/2014 9:28:18 PM     Post Reply
Less than a minute into his speech at the Boston marathon bombing memorial on Tuesday, Vice President Joe Biden went tragically off script and told the crowd of Boston bombing survivors that "it was worth it." After expressing how impressed he was with the tribute, he said somberly, "let me say to those ´quote survivors,´ my God, you have survived and you have soared. It was worth it. I mean this sincerely - just to hear each of you speak. You´re truly, truly inspiring." The audience sat in stunned silence until Biden declared, "I´ve never heard anything so beautiful than

Casual marijuana use linked with
brain abnormalities, study finds

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Fox News, by Loren Grush    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/15/2014 6:12:53 PM     Post Reply
Casual marijuana use may come with some not-so-casual side effects. For the first time ever, researchers at Northwestern University have analyzed the relationship between casual use of marijuana and brain changes – and found that young adults who used cannabis just once or twice a week showed significant abnormalities in two important brain structures. The study’s findings, to be published Wednesday in the Journal of Neuroscience, are similar to those of past research linking chronic, long-term marijuana use with mental illness and changes in brain development. Dr. Hans Breiter, co-senior study author, said he was inspired to look at the effects of casual

Which Actor Portrays The
Best James Bond?

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American Spectator, by Jonah Goldberg and Taki Theodoracopulos    Original Article
Posted By: Drive- 4/16/2014 11:20:22 AM     Post Reply
Look, everyone loves Sean Connery, particularly Sean Connery. That’s why he plays Sean Connery in every movie he’s in. People love that Scottish brogue so much, they don’t mind that he has it when he plays Juan Sánchez Villa-Lobos Ramírez, an immortal Spaniard in Highlander. The guy even won an Oscar for playing an Irish cop with a Scottish accent. Talk about sexist double standards: Meryl Streep has to master foreign dialects to get her golden statuettes. Connery just has to show up on time. In economics you devalue a currency by printing too much of it. In film you

Michelle Obama Riverdances
Through Dublin to the Tune
of $7,921,638

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Breitbart Big Peace, by Tom Fitton    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/17/2014 6:45:16 AM     Post Reply
When it comes to tracking the cost of Obama family vacations, there are two primary challenges. First, the Obamas are prolific jet-setters, so there are many details to track. Second, the Obama administration, clearly embarrassed by these lavish and frequent family vacations, stonewalls the release of records at every turn. But we have been relentless in pursuit of this information. Our attorneys file the lawsuits and make our case, and our investigators pour through pages of records and crunch the numbers. And the information we’ve uncovered – information that would otherwise remain under lock and key – shows that the

White babies just 15 months old show racial
bias when picking playmates, study found

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Daily Mail (U.K.), by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/15/2014 10:23:35 PM     Post Reply
Toddlers show racial bias when picking playmates, a study reveals. They also take account of how fairly others behave. Researchers tested the reaction of white 15-month-olds as toys were distributed. Two white adults divided the toys, one equally and the other unequally. Seventy per cent of the toddlers chose to play with the researcher who distributed the toys fairly. But in a second test, when one researcher favoured a white recipient over an Asian one, they picked the ‘fair’ researcher less often, the journal Frontiers in Psychology reports. And the babies are more likely to help those who share the same ethnicity, which is known as

Why is US Senator Harry
Reid so concerned with
a local Nevada rancher?

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Fox News, by Wayne Allyn Root    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/16/2014 9:37:12 PM     Post Reply
I live in Las Vegas. I live and breath Nevada politics. Something is very wrong. Something smells rotten in the Nevada desert. And Senator Harry Reid’s fingerprints are all over it. I am of course referring to the Bundy Ranch siege. This was a dispute between a Nevada ranching family with rights to the land in question for 140 years and the BLM (Bureayu of Land Management). The government claims they haven’t paid grazing fees for 20 years. The result was a government assault on the ranch- including snipers with assault rifles, SUV’s, helicopters, airplanes and over 200 heavily armed troops. No

Elizabeth Warren whines about coverage
of her fraudulent Indian claim

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Daily Caller, by Patrick Howley    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/16/2014 9:54:52 PM     Post Reply
Democratic Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren wrote in her forthcoming book that she was “hurt” and “angry” by 2012 reporting on her fraudulent claim to Native American heritage. “What really threw me, though, were the constant attacks from the other side,” Warren wrote in her book “A Fighting Chance.” “I would almost persuade myself that I was starting to get the hang of full-throttle campaigning and then — bam! Out of left field, the state Republican Party, or the Brown campaign, or some blogger, would launch a rocket at me,” Warren wrote, adding, ”I was stunned by the attacks.” This reporter (blogger?) reported extensively

Atlanta Braves flooded with Hank
Aaron hate mail: He’s a ‘s*****g’

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Washington Times (D.C.), by Cheryl K. Chumley    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/15/2014 3:23:19 PM     Post Reply
Hank Aaron’s recent comments about the need for America to realize that racism is still very much alive and thriving — only now due to those who wear “neckties and starched shirts” rather than KKK hoods — has sparked an angry backlash and many fans are turning the tables, calling the baseball legend himself a racist. “Hank Aaron is a s*****g piece of [expletive] [racial slur],” one man said in an email to the Atlanta Braves’ front office, one of the teams Mr. Aaron used to play for, CBS News reported. “My old man instilled in my mind from a

White is not right: Campus admins ask
for help weeding out white people

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Daily Caller, by Robby Soave    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/15/2014 7:47:18 PM     Post Reply
Western Washington University sent a questionnaire to students asking them for advice on how the administration could succeed at making sure that in future years, “we are not as white as we are today.” The question notes that WWU’s racial make up does not perfectly reflect the nation at large, and asks students to consider strategies that other universities have used to focus on skin color as the paramount indicator of a student-applicant’s worth. The president of WWU has stated that his explicit goal is to reduce the white population on campus, according to Campus Reform. “I’ve said before and I’ll say it

Former US president joins
opposition to Keystone XL

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Houston Chronicle, by Jennifer A. Dlouhy    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/16/2014 10:32:12 PM     Post Reply
WASHINGTON — Former President Jimmy Carter joined fellow Nobel laureates Wednesday in opposing Keystone XL, insisting that approving the pipeline would trigger “more climate upheaval” around the globe. In an open letter to President Barack Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry, Carter and the nine other Nobel Peace Prize winners bluntly warned the leaders: “Your decision on the Keystone XL tar sands pipeline will define your climate legacy.” The missive, published as an advertisement in Politico, represents the first time Carter has taken a position on the $5.4 billion project and makes him the first former president to come

Progressive Insurance
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National Review Online, by Victor Davis Hanson    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/15/2014 10:08:10 PM     Post Reply
How do you ensure that you won’t be ostracized, denounced, or fired if you are a media celebrity, captain of industry, or high public official? For some, sexist banter is certainly no problem. Stand-up comedian Bill Maher called Sarah Palin a c–t and a tw-t, but suffered no ill consequences. David Letterman joked on air that Sarah Palin’s 14-year-old daughter had had sex with Alex Rodriguez during a New York Yankees game. There was no downside to that either. President Obama tosses around “sweetie” as he wishes. No problem with that. No one believes Barack could be condescending to women.


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