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Bolz-Weber’s liberal, foulmouthed
articulation of Christianity speaks to
fed-up believers

Washington Post, by Michelle Boorstein

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Posted By:JoniTx, 11/4/2013 4:39:12 PM

AUSTIN— Nadia Bolz-Weber bounds into the University United Methodist Church sanctuary like a superhero from Planet Alternative Christian. Her 6-foot-1 frame is plastered with tattoos, her arms are sculpted by competitive weightlifting and, to show it all off, this pastor is wearing a tight tank top and jeans. Looking out at the hundreds of people crowded into the pews to hear her present the gospel of Jesus Christ, she sees: Dockers and blazers. Sensible shoes. Grandmothers and soccer moms. Nary a facial piercing. To Bolz-Weber’s bafflement, this is now her congregation: mainstream America. These are the people who put her

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: mickturn, 11/4/2013 4:44:55 PM     (No. 9598411)

The visual from her description made me puke.

Next story please!

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Reply 2 - Posted by: rubberneck, 11/4/2013 4:49:32 PM     (No. 9598415)

As Flip Wilson called it, "The Church of What´s Happ´nin´ Now!"

I refuse to label somebody as a Christian or NOT a Christian; I´ll leave that up to Jesus. But I get the impression Sister Bolz-Weber is more interested in HER theology, than that of the Savior.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: kanphil, 11/4/2013 4:49:53 PM     (No. 9598416)

"Progressive Christianity"? Doesn´t mesh with "As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be". I am in this latter camp.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: keekng, 11/4/2013 4:52:39 PM     (No. 9598420)

Why is a foul mouthed puke from another denomination the pastor of a Methodist church?
Can someone please answer the question?

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Northcross, 11/4/2013 4:53:18 PM     (No. 9598421)

One could not create a character more at odds with Christ, or with true Christians trying to mirror Christ in their lives.

This is not Christianity in any form; it is the social liberal secular philosophy masquerading as Christianity.

Shame on the WaPo for giving this heretic a boost.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: revdeppisch316, 11/4/2013 4:57:50 PM     (No. 9598425)

Reading from HER BOOK?

I get it-- let´s decide what God should and shouldn´t command in our lives.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: FlatCityGirl, 11/4/2013 5:02:09 PM     (No. 9598433)

FTA: “You show us all your dirty laundry! It’s all out there!” the Rev. John Elford of the University United Methodist Church booms, as if he is introducing a rock star, leading the cheering crowd into an impassioned round of hymn-singing.

Don´t we have a thread in Must Reads about White rash becoming "normal."

Does that hype by the pastor introducing Nadia Bolz-Weber remind you of a promo for say . . . a Honey Boo Boo episode?

The more the outrageous is hyped, the more viewers they can pull in.

Liberal Christianity? I call it White Trash Christianity.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: msjena, 11/4/2013 5:03:38 PM     (No. 9598435)

I couldn´t figure out, from the article, just what her theology is.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: hikergal, 11/4/2013 5:13:43 PM     (No. 9598444)

FTA....that merges the passion and life-changing fervor of evangelicalism with the commitment to inclusiveness and social justice of mainline Protestantism. She’s a tatted-up, foul-mouthed champion to people sick of being belittled as not Christian enough for the right or too Jesus-y for the left.´
Does that sound like what we are warned about in Rev 3:15-16? 15 I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! 16 So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth.


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Reply 10 - Posted by: southron, 11/4/2013 5:14:32 PM     (No. 9598446)

If it feels good, do it - God doesn´t care what you do or what you believe - Voodoo is just as valid as Christianity.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: ledbythnose, 11/4/2013 5:29:47 PM     (No. 9598458)

And just to think that Jesus went to the Cross for this.His last words pretty much sum this kind of believer up.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: MOBeef4u, 11/4/2013 5:30:43 PM     (No. 9598459)

Religion as entertainment. Sit back and enjoy.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: texaspast, 11/4/2013 5:33:59 PM     (No. 9598462)

Definite proof (if you needed any more of it) that the Great Falling Away (the apostasy of the church) that Paul says must come before the final days is well under way.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: JoElla Bee, 11/4/2013 5:35:31 PM     (No. 9598463)


“And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto Jehovah. And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And Jehovah had respect unto Abel and to his offering: but unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell” (Gen. 4:3-5).

“By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, through which he had witness borne to him that he was righteous, God bearing witness in respect of his gifts: and through it he being dead yet speaketh” (Hebrews 11:4).

Abel´s worship pleased God because of his faith and obedience of God´s instructions.

Cain´s worship displeased God because his offering was presumptuously according to Cain´s will and not in submission and obedience to God´s will.

There is an important lesson in that for all of us who worship God today.



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Reply 15 - Posted by: pearlyjo, 11/4/2013 5:51:35 PM     (No. 9598483)

I read the article. I must say that I think she actually has the idea of Christ and Him crucified, if she could only get past Nadia and her glorified and "accepted".

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Reply 16 - Posted by: NorthernDog, 11/4/2013 5:55:25 PM     (No. 9598488)

I often find that people preaching a ´tolerant and inclusive´ gospel like this have great disdain for anyone who doesn´t agree with everything they are doing. So called Progressive Christians seem to be most worried about being confused with or lumped together with any traditional-minded or conservative believers more than anything else.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: snowoutlaw, 11/4/2013 6:04:32 PM     (No. 9598496)

Half the Methodist church are no longer followers of Christ. They have gone to the dark side and are trying to bring everyone down there with them. This has caused many local Methodist churches to split with the actual Methodists being forced to start from scratch with only a bible. Typical liberals always have to ruin everything they touch, the Methodist church used to be a great church, no longer.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: msjena, 11/4/2013 6:09:16 PM     (No. 9598499)

The one thing most Protestant denominations have forgotten is the authority of the Bible: Sola Scriptura. The fact that she is a minister says it all because the Bible says only men can be pastors.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Howard Adams, 11/4/2013 6:12:07 PM     (No. 9598503)

When the suburbanites who looked like normal people began to come to her ELCA church, I thought of Jonah who was "off-put" by the fact that the Ninevites were responding to his message. I think that we must look to her book and beyond one religion writer´s story to learn more. Some things do resonate though: God´s Grace; God´s desire for an intimacy with each of His children that is life-changing; a Gospel that is more than "recylcing/save the planet" and simple rules; ministering to the outcast; churches are more than non-profit organizations. (We were tasked to go into all of the world and make disciples.) As Ruperus Meldineus was quoted by John Wesley, "In essentials, unity. In non-essentials, liberty. In all things, charity."

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Howard Adams, 11/4/2013 6:16:25 PM     (No. 9598511)

#15, I think that you capture the thought that came to my mind when I saw the photo.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: farmwife, 11/4/2013 6:16:38 PM     (No. 9598514)

We have to care for all God´s people but with love and humility, not grandstanding.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: JudithC, 11/4/2013 6:21:32 PM     (No. 9598517)

There is no such thing as a foulmouthed articulation of Christianity—only foulmouthed people masquerading as Christians for their own pernicious ends.

Nadia Bolz-Weber is a living example of the old saying: "It´s better to be wanted for murder than not to be wanted at all." How sad it must be knowing one´s appeal is to others is based on publicly offending our Lord Jesus Christ.

This woman claims she´s a Lutheran which means she most likely is part of ELCA—Evangelical Lutheran Church in America—which long ago turned away from the confessional Lutheran church craft a set of PC beliefs that are anything but Christian—beliefs they share with other far out lefties in various faiths. It´s not surprising that ELCA has become the largest body of so-called "Lutherans" in America.





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Reply 23 - Posted by: flybynight, 11/4/2013 6:39:58 PM     (No. 9598535)

Still not understanding all the hate and sanctimony of self-proclaimed "Christians" who take such pride in their superiority and their anger and contempt for those who don´t follow the same narrow-minded path they themselves do. This pastor´s style doesn´t speak to me, but if her message gets through to others who don´t love the same formal liturgy I do, or the pulpit-pounding harangues of the fundies, or the sound-system rock-band variety show of the mega churches, more power to her! Get over yourselves, haters. that isn´t the message Christ preached, now is it? Or is the bit about "A new commandment I give you, that you shall love one another," just one of those foul Episcopalian heresies?

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Reply 24 - Posted by: BigGeorgeTX, 11/4/2013 8:26:58 PM     (No. 9598647)

She looks just as I imagined she would. Very butch. But let´s not forget that Methodist ministers are appointed, not called. She merely reflects the direction the Methodist hierarchy is headed. She fits right into the Austin scene. I hope she remembers that it´s not all about her. A minister that becomes the focus of a congregation rather guiding them to a focus on Christ has failed their calling.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Jakester2344, 11/4/2013 8:33:12 PM     (No. 9598652)

It was Jesus himself who said the path to destruction is wide and broad. The path to salvation is narrow. If you want to include things which are not justified by scripture fine but do not tell me that it is Christianity.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: ArtieC, 11/4/2013 8:47:02 PM     (No. 9598658)

There´s nothing new about this wolf in sheep´s clothing. People like her have been bringing the world into the church since the beginning. The look on her face sets it all.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: GhostofChesterton, 11/4/2013 8:55:54 PM     (No. 9598668)

Ladies and gentlemen, this is the ultimate and not surprising outcome of the misguided efforts of one Martin Luther. There is one univeral Truth, and one true Church Militant. Everything since has been an abject watered down failure. The Church has had it´s failures for sure, but it is self correcting over the ages.

These Protestant freak shows are a death spiral for their adherents.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: albatross, 11/4/2013 9:24:08 PM     (No. 9598681)

Yes, #27, because no Roman Catholic priest (except Luther) has ever gone astray. Before reading the article, I was prepared to abhor everything about her. After reading, I actually agree with her on a number of points. My overall impression, though, is that what she really needs is a pastor (that´s Greek for shepherd).

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Reply 29 - Posted by: GW_Rider, 11/4/2013 9:33:08 PM     (No. 9598694)

I really wish Ldot would put up a "dislike" option.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: anonymous, 11/4/2013 9:39:33 PM     (No. 9598699)

She would look so much better without tattoos.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: Harlowe, 11/4/2013 11:29:05 PM     (No. 9598797)

#27 – “… misguided efforts of one Martin Luther.” That is not only judgmental, but dishonest and absolutely offensive. “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.” ~Matthew 7:1-2

As for Nadia Bolz-Weber, she was likely ordained by the ELCA (Evangelical Lutheran Church in America) and represents the liberal dogma of the ELCA which unjustly tarnishes conservative Lutherans belonging to the LCMS (Lutheran Church Missouri Synod) and WELS (Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod).

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Reply 32 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 11/5/2013 1:07:15 AM     (No. 9598848)

Whoa. Sorry I looked. Apparently, she hates her body.

Bless her heart. As Christians we need to pray she sees the light one day. As for the parishioners, lemmings always need somebody to lead them.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Hermoine, 11/5/2013 8:03:49 AM     (No. 9599092)

Bolz-Weber wants it both ways. She wants to sell her book, and she certainly wants to read from it as she´s visiting other churches as a speaker (and I´m sure she welcomes those large crowds), yet in her own church, which averages 180 congregates a Sunday, she is scared of growth and certainly doesn´t want those straight-laced (looking) suburbanites infiltrating her rebel-church. She wants all the fame of a megachurch preacher without all the responsibility of leading a big church. Nice gig if you can get it.

She appears to be a very conflicted soul: she´ll take God´s grace, but she´s not quite sure about the repentance peace that proceeds the Grace.

Finally #23 -- may I suggest a thorough reading of First Corinthians. It will give you an excellent perspective on Paul´s admonition to the church. And, I´d also recommend Matthew 21...Jesus does not approve of those who use God´s house and twist God´s word for their own profit.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: retCPO, 11/5/2013 1:49:37 PM     (No. 9599731)

With so much change in such a short period of time I am finally at point where it seems every thing that I thought right and honorable has been rejected by a vocal majority of my fellow citizens.

Perhaps I am in "Silent Majority", if so they had better speak up soon.

Perhaps I am just beyond my sale date.



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President Obama addressed the White House press corps today, announcing that with the final numbers in, Obamacare´s exchanges have attracted eight million sign-ups -- 35 percent of whom are "under the age of 35," he said. Several elements of his comments were misleading: (1) At first blush, the 35 percent stat is both significant and impressive. As recently as last month, the share of "young invincibles" signing up for plans was struggling in the 25 percent range, far short of the actuarial target of nearly 40 percent. A leap into the mid-30´s, while still shy of the goal, would constitute a major step, and would bode well for the risk pools'

Elizabeth Warren whines about coverage
of her fraudulent Indian claim

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Daily Caller, by Patrick Howley    Original Article
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Democratic Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren wrote in her forthcoming book that she was “hurt” and “angry” by 2012 reporting on her fraudulent claim to Native American heritage. “What really threw me, though, were the constant attacks from the other side,” Warren wrote in her book “A Fighting Chance.” “I would almost persuade myself that I was starting to get the hang of full-throttle campaigning and then — bam! Out of left field, the state Republican Party, or the Brown campaign, or some blogger, would launch a rocket at me,” Warren wrote, adding, ”I was stunned by the attacks.” This reporter (blogger?) reported extensively

Former US president joins
opposition to Keystone XL

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Houston Chronicle, by Jennifer A. Dlouhy    Original Article
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WASHINGTON — Former President Jimmy Carter joined fellow Nobel laureates Wednesday in opposing Keystone XL, insisting that approving the pipeline would trigger “more climate upheaval” around the globe. In an open letter to President Barack Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry, Carter and the nine other Nobel Peace Prize winners bluntly warned the leaders: “Your decision on the Keystone XL tar sands pipeline will define your climate legacy.” The missive, published as an advertisement in Politico, represents the first time Carter has taken a position on the $5.4 billion project and makes him the first former president to come

The Folly Of The Bundy Ranch Rebellion
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The Federalist, by Grace Olmstead    Original Article
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It’s the stuff of Westerns: a showdown on the desert plains, the big bad government against an underdog farmer. Though the story has only grabbed national headlines in the past several days, rancher Cliven Bundy has illegally grazed cattle on the Nevada land surrounding his farm for over 20 years. He hasn’t paid grazing fees since 1993, and refuses to renew the necessary grazing permit.(Snip)Rather than using the avenues and pathways presented to him, Bundy has staunchly declared his own law and allegiances. Unfortunately, reality doesn’t work this way. If only it did—we could rebel for paying stupid taxes, refuse to

Fox News Poll: Many voters say Obama lies
to the country on important matters

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Fox News, by Dana Blanton    Original Article
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About six in ten American voters think Barack Obama lies to the country on important matters some or most of the time, according to a Fox News poll released Wednesday. Thirty-seven percent think Obama lies “most of the time,” while another 24 percent say he lies “some of the time.” Twenty percent of voters say “only now and then” and 15 percent “never.” Click here for the poll results. President Obama has been accused by political opponents and media fact-checkers alike of telling falsehoods. Frequently cited: His repeated claim that under Obamacare “If you like your plan, you can keep

Rev. Al Sharpton’s Easter message:
Politically ‘crucified’ Obama has risen again

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Washington Times, by Jessica Chasmar    Original Article
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With Easter soon approaching, the Rev. Al Sharpton on Wednesday drew parallels between the resurrection of Jesus Christ and the resurrection of President Obama’s political career. Joining the “Tom Joyner Morning Show,” Mr. Sharpton said that his message for this Easter is that “no matter what the world may do to you unfairly, no matter how you’re crucified — nailed to the cross at home, or in your personal relationships, or on the job — that you can rise if you don’t lose yourself during the hard times and the challenges.” The reverend went on to say that Christ endured so much humiliation and unearned suffering leading up to his death,

Wendy Davis will undergo neck surgery
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Star-Telegram [Fort Worth TX], by Anna M. Tinsley    Original Article
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FORT WORTH — Democratic gubernatorial candidate Wendy Davis will undergo neck surgery today, her campaign said Tuesday. “After experiencing shoulder and right arm pain in recent weeks, Sen. Davis will have a routine surgical procedure to remove bone spurs and degenerative discs that are creating compression on the nerves in her neck,” campaign spokesman Zac Petkanas said in a statement Tuesday. “This is a common issue experienced by runners and endurance athletes,” he said. Davis, of Fort Worth, will undergo the outpatient surgery at the Fort Worth Brain and Spine Institute. Dr. Thomas Ellis will perform the

Obama administration gives Detroit
$100 million for ´blight removal´

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American Thinker, by Rick Moran    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/16/2014 1:36:54 PM     Post Reply
The cash infusion by the federal government is actually going to help the city pay pensions, even though they´re playing a kind of shell game with the money. As for "blight removal," perhaps they could start with city hall. Reuters: Michigan officials and President Barack Obama´s Administration are discussing a plan to free up $100 million in federal money to aid Detroit´s retired city workers, the Detroit Free Press reported on Tuesday. Citing two people familiar with the talks, the newspaper said the talks were centered around federal money flowing to Michigan for blight removal. Under the plan, $100 million


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