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Will Insularity, Incompetence and
Lies Doom Obamacare?

National Journal, by Ron Fournier

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Posted By:Flyright, 11/4/2013 6:33:49 AM

Insularity, incompetence and deception doomed the launch of the Affordable Care Act, according to post-mortems on President Obama´s health insurance law. The president now has two choices: (a) Accept the verdict and learn from it, or (b) stick with insularity, incompetence and deception.Early signs point to Obama compounding rather than correcting his team´s errors.Staying the course is a losing option for Obamacare and the over 40 million Americans who need health insurance. The trouble is far deeper than a "glitchy" website, according to numerous media reports, including an in-depth investigation by the Washington Post. Among other things, the Post uncovered


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Reply 1 - Posted by: RCFlyer98, 11/4/2013 6:46:46 AM     (No. 9597372)

Insanity? Incompetence? Deception? How about the insanity of this law? Will somebody please come to their senses?

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Janjan, 11/4/2013 6:57:46 AM     (No. 9597387)

Suggestion #3 in Fournier´s list states ´Create an Efficient Healthcare Bureaucracy´. That´s the crux of the problem Ron. The American people don´t want a ´healthcare bureaucracy´ and after witnessing the outer edges of this debacle anyone who is stupid enough to still think such a thing is possible needs to be silenced.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: suziesuburbanite, 11/4/2013 7:12:52 AM     (No. 9597407)

"An efficient health insurance bureaucracy"

Now that´s an oxymoron!

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Reply 4 - Posted by: bubby, 11/4/2013 7:23:37 AM     (No. 9597430)

No I don´t think obamacare is doomed. The elite GOP and the Rinos have and will continue to undermine efforts by Senators Cruz and Lee to rid us of this abomination. In the end the GOP will cave and help the Democrats pass legislation to "fix" obamacare. I don´t see any light at the end of this tunnel of destruction obama and the Democrats are taking us through.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Country Boy, 11/4/2013 7:25:37 AM     (No. 9597437)

obmama will never get any qualified company to fix this obamaCare website. Here´s why -

In Sept 2008, Bear Stearns was going bankrupt. The FED desperately needed a large bank to take them over, and do the country a huge favor. JPM did that, and now has been framed by the Justice Department as the cause of the crash, fined $billions.

No competent CEO will get near obama now. Way too dangerous.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: strike3, 11/4/2013 7:27:41 AM     (No. 9597440)

That and lack of money. Huge tax increases and confiscation of wealth will be necessary just to break even on this boondoggle. There goes the economy and there goes the tax base.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: wtm, 11/4/2013 7:35:59 AM     (No. 9597454)

Of course, Obie will double down !!

You have to remember that Single Payer is what they really want in the end, and they have to make Obamacare and the Insurance industry fail before they can push it, and try to get it !!!

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Reply 8 - Posted by: The Advocate, 11/4/2013 7:48:18 AM     (No. 9597472)

Now even the Left cannot cover up the facts.
FTA"Because as long as the president sticks with the team that failed the country and lied, it´s fair to assume that he hasn´t learned the most basic lessons from the launch."
Obama, Pelosi, Baucus, Reid and ALL the Dems passed this law without ONE Republican vote and LIED to the American Prople about what was in it -Dems Alone are responsible.
Repeal and Replace!

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Reply 9 - Posted by: lilo, 11/4/2013 8:10:13 AM     (No. 9597519)

Obama. Doesn´t. Care.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Passion, 11/4/2013 8:15:50 AM     (No. 9597527)

As poster 2 said….building an "efficient bureaucracy" is just an absurd contradiction…..

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Reply 11 - Posted by: MattMusson, 11/4/2013 8:19:57 AM     (No. 9597532)

It is important to realize that GOP congressmen have voted with democrats 10 times for implementation fixes to ObamaCare. For example - they voted to kill the HomeCare portion when that became unworkable.

So, the GOP has tried to HELP the idiots in charge. But, they are still demonized by everyone.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Rinktum, 11/4/2013 9:12:23 AM     (No. 9597630)

Efficient healthcare bureaucracy...please! We need less bureaucracy, not more. Government is a unwieldy behemoth that can´t manage one department efficiently. That is merely on the logistical side of things...think about the decisions that these bureaucrats will be making on your behalf regarding your health care and that should convince you that a big government agency is unqualified and should butt out of the decisions between you and your doctor. Frankly, I see no good outcome of this fiasco. Government can´t fix what they have already broken. Other than telling the American people, "Nevermind" and restoring them to their previous coverage, there is no good solution. As of January 1, millions will have no coverage because they won´t be able to afford it. Life goes on. Accidents happen. Illness attacks. There is a train wreck of massive proportions about to hit these people square in the face. When life hits them with medical emergencies they will face financial ruin. At the same time, Medicaid will be expanded and work well. It is the middle class who will feel the pain Obamacare brings. Those pesky worker bees should be sharing their wealth with the lazy layabouts.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: southron, 11/4/2013 9:17:54 AM     (No. 9597645)

Don´t hold your breath waiting for blacks, union members, academia and Hollywood, etc. to desert Obama - these groups - estimated at well over 40 % of voters - are solidly behind him regardless of what he does or doesn´t do!

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Reply 14 - Posted by: PowerCorrupts, 11/4/2013 9:40:21 AM     (No. 9597686)

Absolutely love the comment from "Cleetus" on NJ´s page:

"Mr Obama has now converted Obamacare into Cannot Afford Care Act or CACA - a for more apt acronym for the law."

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Reply 15 - Posted by: rmagnus, 11/4/2013 9:43:57 AM     (No. 9597695)

The truth will kill Obamacare.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: maryc, 11/4/2013 9:44:47 AM     (No. 9597699)

Print print print that money to ´fix´ that which is the means to the end which is a broke and diminished if not overtaken country. The quicksand we are in financially as a country can´t back up the money printed. The crash will come. Our healthcare is not the point. The point is a broken and therefore unable to defend itself country. Wonder where the people pushing this on us have planned to go when the government runs out of our money and people don´t get their ´share´ of the wealth that no longer exists.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Holeymoses, 11/4/2013 9:56:27 AM     (No. 9597729)

´There Will Be Books!" Can´t wait for all of them , pointing fingers, juicy deals, exposés. They´re a comin!

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Reply 18 - Posted by: RancherJack, 11/4/2013 10:12:25 AM     (No. 9597767)

Will Insularity, Incompetence and Lies Doom Obamacare?


Had McCain somehow won, or Romney won we´d still have this cluster goat roping bovine scatology.

Because Washington wants this

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Reply 19 - Posted by: FlatCityGirl, 11/4/2013 10:23:08 AM     (No. 9597797)

So far we´re only talking about insurance and deductibles and co-pays, and whether you´re even going to be able to find a doctor to see you.

We haven´t yet gotten to the pharmacy with a prescription in hand.

Wait until that nightmare makes headlines.

Kelly Ayotte and the rest of the Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys making nice with the Mulatto Criminal be damned. This MengleCare abomination has got to be stopped.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Ben Around, 11/4/2013 10:38:56 AM     (No. 9597828)

#2 Right, what we need are more czars and bureaucrats!

#18 Yup, this is what the washington media/gov´t elites will continue to give us.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: sandhillguy, 11/4/2013 10:45:18 AM     (No. 9597843)

"We have to pass it to find out what;s in it."

A brilliant MD observed that the same is true of a stool sample. With the same result.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: rmagnus, 11/4/2013 11:33:04 AM     (No. 9597937)

#21 I will go ahead and apologize - I´m stealing that one from you. Can´t wait to drop it on my buds. Absolutely hilarious.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Butch59, 11/4/2013 11:42:46 AM     (No. 9597952)

Sadly, what we are going to see in the future is that the RINO´s in Congress will continue to say that "it´s the law of the land and it´s our responsibility to fix it". NO IS ISN´T! It´s your responsibility to GET RID OF THE LAW! Just because it´s there doesn´t mean it can´t be thrown out. NO law is written is stone except the Ten Commandments. And I don´t see anything in those about healthcare. So, we are going to be damned until and unless WE the people get rid of the RINO´s and replace them with true Americans of the conservative stripe. And have the strength and resolve to do what is right and correct and follows the Constitution.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: peterfleming, 11/4/2013 12:04:03 PM     (No. 9597997)

What better way to, "Hit the Road to Totalitarianism", than to mass mobilize the peasants ? Right out of early Lenin, the less violent dictator, who paved the way for the mass communist murderer of them all, Josef Stalin.
This questionable, tooth fairy article needs no comment.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: VAfreedomluver, 11/4/2013 12:10:32 PM     (No. 9598014)

Obamacare is unfixable because it contains a basic contradiction at its core: you cannot expand the number of people with access to health insurance when you simultaneously jack up the coverage requirements, making the insurance unaffordable for most.

Incompetence is the most likely explanation, but undoubtedly a high percentage of the idiots responsible for Obamacare would really rather have a single payer system.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Tulsa, 11/4/2013 12:47:40 PM     (No. 9598087)

Mr. I Won likes the term obamacare.

I shall henceforth refer to it as the aca.

Please join me.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: coldoc, 11/4/2013 1:13:40 PM     (No. 9598117)

I prefer democare. Hang it around their scrawny necks like a dead chicken. Let them smell the stench of their creation as it rots.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: jeffkinnh, 11/4/2013 2:05:38 PM     (No. 9598195)

FTA: "During regular staff meetings to monitor progress, he invariably turned attention to the website. If it doesn´t work, Obama said, "nothing else matters." In one meeting, he told senior advisers that implementing ACA was the most important job of his presidency. "We´ve got to do it right," Obama said."

If "the most important job of his presidency" is such an unmitigated disaster, what does that say about the rest of his agenda? The economy, for example.

The legacy of BO will be a country with far less working people, far less prosperous people, people with far worse health care and health care insurance options, and a world that has no respect for us.

As to these "solutions":
1. This administration is nothing but insiders, from VJ right on down. 2. They lie like they breath. 3. There is no such thing as an efficient bureaucracy. That is the lesson of the failure of communism. Central planning doesn´t work. 4. New leadership? Leadership cannot fix a broken and doomed concept. NO ONE can fix this. However, a new president would be nice anyway.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: Flipper3, 11/4/2013 2:13:58 PM     (No. 9598200)

Unfortunately, probably no more than insularity, incompetence and lies doomed Obama to one term.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: Andromeda, 11/4/2013 8:16:22 PM     (No. 9598634)

No, it will just give 0 and his supporters what they really wanted.

Read some of the comments after all the articles exposing the intro of Obamacare. The mantra is "that is why we need single payer", and "we would have had single payer, but the greedy insurance companies and Republicans stopped it and that is why we have this mess".

These are the real Obama talking points, and you will find them all over. Obama is ready to swoop in and save us all with a federally run program that kicks out the business "middleman" that he hates.

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Former GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney has sworn off running again for elected office, but Americans have certainly heard that one before. Speculation that Romney might run again has largely been stoked by the reunion he planned to host last month in Park City, Utah, for members of his 2012 campaign and debate team and a string of recent public appearances. He has appeared on TV news shows 12 times in the past six months. That’s essentially on pace with Michigan GOP Rep. Mike Rogers, who led all national politicians last year with 26 appearances over 12 months. Romney has

The artist formerly known as Cat
Stevens enters rock’s hall of fame

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Boston Globe (MA), by James Sullivan    Original Article
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“Morning has broken, like the first morning.” Whatever your faith, if you’ve got any at all, that’s pretty much what it boils down to. The sun comes up, and we give it another shot.(snip) Stevens converted to Islam in the late 1970s, and he angered a lot of fans when he appeared to support the fatwa against novelist Salman Rushdie with comments he made in 1989. But for a kid in thrall to the kinetic power of the spinning records in his father’s hi-fi console, Stevens seemed to be living proof that popular music (he had 11 Top 40 hits in

Worth the wait! Reclusive movie
star Doris Day smiles and
waves to fans as she makes
rare public appearance on her
milestone 90th birthday

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DailyMail (U.K.), by Helen Zhao and Juliet Paylor    Original Article
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Reclusive movie star Doris Day greeted fans with a rare smile and a wave from her balcony on Thursday as she rang in her 90th birthday. The Oscar-nominee appeared in great spirits as she made the rather regal gesture from her home in Carmel-by-the-Sea, on California´s north coast - a quiet little enclave also home to Clint Eastwood - the first time she´s been seen in public since 2008. After opening up to Closer Weekly about her milestone birthday, revealing she´s still very much in demand, with scripts pouring in all the time, the silver-haired beauty appeared as sprightly as

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