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They knew! Obama aides debated
´you can keep your plan´ lie

American Thinker, by Thomas Lifson

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Posted By:magnante, 11/3/2013 8:08:11 AM

In a bombshell report, the Wall Street Journal has gotten Obama advisers -- some on the record, others anonymous -- talking about the internal debate over the president´s false guarantee that Americans could keep their insurance plan if they liked it, under Obamacare. In the end, politics trumped the truth. (snip)One official who remains anonymous: "You try to talk about health care in broad, intelligible points that cut through, and you inevitably lose some accuracy when you do that," the former official said. The former official added that in the midst of a hard-fought political debate "if you

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Scottyboy, 11/3/2013 8:17:46 AM     (No. 9596117)

Please take the senate, strap on a pair and impeach this clod and the camel he rode in on.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Watlines, 11/3/2013 8:39:06 AM     (No. 9596150)

I wonder how Supreme Court Justice John Roberts feels now that he knows that his awful, misguided decision to approve of ObamaCare was based on nothing less than malfeasance by the Obama Administration?

As Pat Buchanan writes, all of us - but especially the supremes who voted for upholding Obamacare - have been conned by a liar who has perpetrated fraud in the extreme upon every citizen in America.

Mister Chief Justice, what are you going to do about this travesty? Sit on your hands?

You cannot let this stand.

A crime has occurred in your courtroom.


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Reply 3 - Posted by: GreatGreyhounds, 11/3/2013 8:40:47 AM     (No. 9596155)

Maybe if thousands send Justice Roberts Get well cards, he will get the hint.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: secondtimelucky, 11/3/2013 8:47:54 AM     (No. 9596168)

my brain still percolates over the ´´what do they have on Roberts?´´ question...

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Janjan, 11/3/2013 8:50:01 AM     (No. 9596171)

This bill was signed into law 3 years ago. We are well aware that the Democrats never read it before they voted for it. We now know that they haven´t bothered to read it in the 3 years since it passed. This isn´t just an Obama scandal. This is rank incompetence and malpractice by the entire Democrat Party and their media toadies. Every singe one of them deserves to go down in flames and please take Boener, McConnell and McCain with you.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Pros7767, 11/3/2013 9:10:50 AM     (No. 9596208)

Ditto, #3.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: msctex1, 11/3/2013 9:13:40 AM     (No. 9596213)

So if Robert´s decision was at all predicated upon the notion we would have a choice, and it can be proved that was never the case, and in fact a genuine conspiracy existed to force a scenario where we would not...And given the fact 95% of the people on this site were well aware of what was actually going on, so it is more than safe to say Justice Roberts was aware...

There may be far, far more going on here than meets the eye. The thing which has stuck with me about that decision was the ten seconds of wild triumph the Left evinced, followed by years of dead silence once it sunk in. Don´t be surprised if this ends up playing out in or favor. We may be in the hands of someone playing the Long Game, but on the side of the Angels.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Freeloader, 11/3/2013 9:31:11 AM     (No. 9596253)

Memo To: The Republican Leadership, The 113th United States Congress

From: The Desk Of The 1st & 6th Governor Of Virginia, Patrick Henry

"If this be treason, make the most of it."

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Reply 9 - Posted by: kafir091101, 11/3/2013 9:46:50 AM     (No. 9596276)

ObamaCare will be either the downfall of the Progressive/Socialist/Commie/Fascists in the senate and WH or the downfall of America as we know it.

Because:

If they prevail, we will all become Subjects instead of Citizens, except for those chosen few close to the administration and large corporations.

It will be 1984, Fascist Germany, Communist Russia and Soylent Green all wrapped into one government/big business co-dependent and incestuous mess that moves steadily from a ´Soft Tyranny´ to ´Hard Tyranny´.

That is if:

´Good Men do Nothing´.

The Federal Government, the Federal Courts, the American Political System, and Republican Leadership have all failed the American People.

We are headed towards Northern Ireland of 30 years ago if the Ship of State doesn´t change course!

Kafir

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#7: Interesting. A little difficult to decipher, but we should all ponder your thought in a very serious manner.

Could John Roberts´ majority opinion be the salvation of America from the clutches of Obama style socialism?

Did John Roberts intend for this to be, or is he an idiot and this possible outcome could come about by way of ´Out-House Luck´?

Thanks for your contribution.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Truth Czar, 11/3/2013 9:58:55 AM     (No. 9596302)

How fitting that a presidency built on a foundation of lies should be razed by the "Grand Whopper," period.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: msctex1, 11/3/2013 10:36:42 AM     (No. 9596366)

#9: Sorry if it was hard to follow. It´s a complex notion. If I´m right, we are in the midst of a long-term chess game of Law, where Roberts knowingly has used his own ruling/opinion to place a time bomb amid the roots of Obamacare. If his ruing is based upon the idea we would have a choice in our insurance policies, as we were promised by the President himself, and if it can be proven there was a conspiracy all along to deny us that choice, his opinion is based upon a lie, and cannot stand. And since it rests within the roots, all above it is essentially fruit of a poison tree.

And I submit he knew exactly what he was doing. We knew the Dems were lying; is it hard to believe a Chief Justice did not as well? This is of course all a guess on my part. But as I said: the Left´s reaction that day to Robert´s ruling was truly bizarre. It was exactly as though they got what they wanted short term, but had legitimate worries about keeping it. Joy, then silence. We shall see.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Hard Nard, 11/3/2013 11:15:21 AM     (No. 9596438)

#11 -

I think I see the point, and thought of it myself in a much simpler way:

If Justice Roberts decision was based on lies given to him by the administrations representatives are they not guilty of perjury in front of the United States Supreme Court? Does this not overturn the Courts ruling on the basis of that perjury?

This is the path that MUST be pursued.


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Reply 13 - Posted by: rochow, 11/3/2013 12:09:57 PM     (No. 9596517)

Let´s start a class action suit, Mark Levin comes to mind, and take these morons to court, including the First Clown who repeatedly lied and start Impeachment Hearings for him!

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Reply 14 - Posted by: crimea river, 11/3/2013 12:29:43 PM     (No. 9596540)

#7, #11, #12. Roberts major misruling was based on whether the individual mandate was constitutional or not. By pretzel logic he found that it was a tax and therefore constitutional. The fact that the regime lied seems irrelevant to Robert´s logic.

While there may be a long game here, I doubt Roberts knew what he was doing. He may indeed need to be flooded with get-well cards.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: oh-heck, 11/3/2013 1:06:28 PM     (No. 9596589)

Roberts actually left Obama in a box. He found that the states could not be coerced into expanding Medicaid by threatening existing aid payments to the states. This prevents covering expenses from Medicaid. If new rules are implemented to create burdens on employer insurance programs, those too can be ruled to be coercive. That only leaves coercing employers into dropping coverage in order to extract revenue when those who were dropped. That is Obama is doing now and it flies no better than a lead balloon. The individual penalties are nowhere large enough to support even part of this program.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: msctex1, 11/3/2013 1:44:06 PM     (No. 9596643)

#12: Very true. I can´t help but be fascinated by the web that was spun, if it is in fact a web, and by the abuse Roberts was willing to quietly accept. If, of course, this plays out the way I think it might.

#15 application of Occams´ Razor could as well prove correct.
I don´t really care, so long as this internal Pearl Harbor is brought to a halt once and for all.

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