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Obama´s big lie
Tribune Media Services, by Jonah Goldberg

Original Article

Posted By:LittleHoodedMonk, 10/29/2013 2:54:52 AM

"All we´ve been hearing the last three years is if you like your policy you can keep it.... I´m infuriated because I was lied to," one woman told this newspaper, as part of a story on how some middle-class Californians have been stunned to learn the real costs of Obamacare. And that lie looks like the biggest lie about domestic policy ever uttered by a U.S. president. The most famous presidential lies have to do with misconduct (Richard Nixon´s "I am not a crook" or Bill Clinton´s "I did not have sexual relations") or war. Woodrow Wilson campaigned on the slogan "He kept us out of war" and then plunged

Jonah skews 0bama again with the sharp end of his wit.


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Reply 1 - Posted by: steveW, 10/29/2013 3:30:33 AM     (No. 9587181)

Obama lied, socialism he tried.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Trigger2, 10/29/2013 4:03:47 AM     (No. 9587187)

One lie of a multitude of lies. The biggest lie ever to get reelected. THAT´S why he extended the mandate date for when it was going to start to beyond his second term election--not only for him but for his enabling demonrat buddies who voted for it. Now the demonrats want to extend it beyond the Nov 2014 election to save themselves. Hell no, let them live with their creation.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: pineledger, 10/29/2013 4:14:22 AM     (No. 9587193)

Yes, as JG says, "Obama was either lying to himself or to the rest of us — because he was playing the game to win."

That has been the problem with his administration, his career, and his character: he will do and say anything to win.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: jinx, 10/29/2013 7:06:46 AM     (No. 9587313)

Calling Joe Wilson. He uttered two words: "You lie"! He was right. Once a person has been caught in a bald-faced lie, no one believes anything he says. Obama has been caught in the lies of this century. He lied to those who loved him and voted for him. He has lost his credibility in America and the world. He should be impeached.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Spidey, 10/29/2013 7:07:04 AM     (No. 9587314)

None of tis heckling on Obama´s lies matters if you cant prove he had criminal intent with the lies.I could make the case the crony contract to the website designers was criminal but getting the public behind that is a different story.I guess Issa is going to demand an expense sheet form the company but they´ll duck and dodge it.A wire transfer to Obama´s overseas bank account would be helpful.

I´ll bet right now,the network news bosses are planning to feature Obama´s speech tomorrow night to avoid coverage of Sebeius testimony before congress tomorrow.You might even see a stooge claiming he got a $50 Obamcare policy.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Janjan, 10/29/2013 7:12:23 AM     (No. 9587320)

No amount of spin by Obama or the media is going to save this. There are too many people getting hurt. The problem is that the Democrats are right. This is the law of the land and the death spiral has just begun. What say you now McCain? Got any new adjectives for Cruz? Because we definitely have some for you.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: saryden, 10/29/2013 7:13:36 AM     (No. 9587321)

Well, he wasn´t lying when he said he would win in the last election. Places in PA, FL, OH had thousands more votes cast than eligible voters. These were places where photo IDs were not required.
I do certainly feel disenfranchised. Will anything be done to rectify this situation before 2014... or are our legislators just playing games to keep their own careers intact... as America hurtles toward third-worldness?

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Reply 8 - Posted by: texascunning, 10/29/2013 7:14:03 AM     (No. 9587323)

The amazing thing is that most of the first 17 comments after the article agree with Jonah´s premise. For the LA Times, that´s pretty amazing. The normal response to Jonah Goldberg´s columns is to whine and moan about why the Times pays this "conservative idiot" to produce this trash. Maybe those commenters aren´t awake yet.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: dagger, 10/29/2013 7:14:14 AM     (No. 9587324)

First, The Repub establishment owes Ted Cruz, Mike Lee et al a big time apology. Second, the Repubs have been handed a gift beyond measure for 2014 and 2016. They should bury the hatchet with conservatives,the Tea Party, etc., unite and take it to Obam and the Dims. But, I fear they don´t have the stomach for what it takes to win.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Rinktum, 10/29/2013 7:14:43 AM     (No. 9587326)

Obama lies without remorse because he has no character or honor. He is a man lacking a moral compass. He has no sense of right or wrong other than what he deems it to be. There is no higher power in his life that directs his path because religion is meaningless to him. He worships the god in the mirror. Truth is a chameleon to him. It takes on the hue of his thinking before any given audience. This is not just Obama´s mindset but it is the one embraced by the followers of socialism and communism. The means always justifies the end and there is no truth when you walk that path.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: steveW, 10/29/2013 7:25:18 AM     (No. 9587337)

Obama lies, Democrats cheer.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: leesum, 10/29/2013 7:33:41 AM     (No. 9587343)

His lie should be in opposition adds 24/7.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: BeatleJeff, 10/29/2013 7:34:43 AM     (No. 9587346)

One lie leads to another. Oh, what a tangled web ...

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Arby, 10/29/2013 7:38:32 AM     (No. 9587348)

Yes, all true, but how did Jonah decide on which lie to discuss when there have been so many?

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Reply 15 - Posted by: bigfatslob, 10/29/2013 7:40:45 AM     (No. 9587350)

If an election was held today and Obama could run he would win. Why? Because the Republicans have shed the Tea Party, declared them dead, and the McCain types would still praise him.
This nation is dead at the top and trying to take all ´real´ Americans with it.
Who really cares if Obama lies when nothing is done about it and he will continue to do it along with his communist cabal.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: bpl40, 10/29/2013 7:57:35 AM     (No. 9587368)

Even if you can prove he had criminal intent in today´s political climate that is going to do a fat lot of good. Zippy is the original Teflon man. Nothing will stick. The saving grace, however, is that he is a very shallow and narcissistic individual. Like the Emperor Nero he will go on committing outrage after outrage because ´it is his due´. In end other Democrats will pay the price.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Theadora, 10/29/2013 8:12:54 AM     (No. 9587394)

Are we really going to be able to go through another three years of this?

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Reply 18 - Posted by: bubby, 10/29/2013 8:13:23 AM     (No. 9587395)

#16 Is right. McCain is out there praising Hillary as a Presidential candidate and the msm loves it. Good grief the GOP needs to get rid of McCain, McConnell, Hatch, Cornyn all those elite GOP who want to reach across the aisle to their esteemed colleagues and past bipartisan (Democrat) legislation like amnesty. The big government GOP types need to be sent home. But we know that won´t happen so the deficit will continue to grow and the destruction of the country is now guaranteed.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Udanja99, 10/29/2013 8:13:50 AM     (No. 9587398)

The question now is - will all of the demoncrats in DC and all of the party honchos sacrifice themselves for one small fraud of a man or will they bail on him in an attempt to save their party and themselves? They are in a no win situation of their own making now and, frankly, I´m enjoying the he!! out of it.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Farmwife1, 10/29/2013 8:21:04 AM     (No. 9587408)

Love Mr. Goldberg. He´s a good writer, pretty cute, and has the best laugh on tv.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Freeloader, 10/29/2013 8:29:49 AM     (No. 9587419)

The Bamster´s big lie? Last time I checked, those keeping a running score had documented two-hundred-fifty-two examples of our undocumented 44th POTUS´s lying and lawbreaking since taking office!

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Bubbasuncle, 10/29/2013 8:36:30 AM     (No. 9587424)

I agree with #10 and would add that we can produce evidence until the Christ comes again and the Dems will continue to ignore it.

The Republicans are just as responsible, they never stood up to this man once. Even when campaigning against him. All politicians benefit from this law, it gives the government huge power and their backers huge profits.

There is a lot of blame to go around, from the purported conservative pundits that played softball with the democrats and 0bama and sullied the Tea Party, to the 25 republican senators who voted for cloture.

And really folks, what do you think will change? My plan has already been eliminated and I´m paying 70% more with a deductible that went from $1500 to $10,000! Does anyone think that even if the law was repealed that the old policies will come back?

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Reply 23 - Posted by: gwmcclintok, 10/29/2013 9:14:00 AM     (No. 9587482)

Ok you squishy Republicans, don´t go along with delay and save the dims. Let this thing come on in full force. Like a hurricane it will destroy the democratic party and the squishy republic establishment and their great consultants.....Rove and cohorts.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: steph_gray, 10/29/2013 9:19:51 AM     (No. 9587494)

Yes if the law were repealed, old-style policies would of course return. The market is begging for them and a good insurance company could make money with them. There would probably be splashy Internet ads overnight. This also assumes that the stinking mess of OVaporCare would be utterly gone and real reform such as tort reform, removal of interstate barriers, restoration of individual health savings plans - all the good market-based ideas - were quickly implemented.

But nothing is stopping that but a bunch of bad legislators, and, frankly, a lot of we´re-doomed moaning on the ground from our side. Reading this thread, one would assume none of the recent cracks in the ObamTitantic had even happened. But it looks to be taking on water and this is cause for celebration and resolve to fight harder, not defeatism. Way too much of that!

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Felixcat, 10/29/2013 9:36:53 AM     (No. 9587520)

Not long after Obama was first elected I heard a news story about Senator Coburn and how he writes (wrote?) letters/notes to OBama giving him advice, etc. At that point, you had to know that our side was doomed. No way was anyone going to challenge the first black president(FBP). Obama and the Left have used that taupe skin of his to great effect and disastrous results. Of course, conservative pundits like Dr. K, Noonan, et al. now act like gee, we were so conned - please spare us the lame excuses. You didn´t want to say the truth for fear of attacking the FBP and besides, with your incomes you can afford to but the very best in healthcare, etc., unlike the rest of working America.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Calvinesq, 10/29/2013 9:38:35 AM     (No. 9587522)

Here will be Obama´s new defense (i.e., this is where the Media will go at some point):

We on the right knew Obama´s statements were lies at the time they were made. His supporters and allies in Congress knew Obama´s statements were lies at the time they were made.

Therefore, if everyone knew he was lying when he was doing it, was it a lie?

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Avogadra, 10/29/2013 9:53:15 AM     (No. 9587562)

Let me be the first to predict this:

Bob Torricelli, a corrupt New Jersey politician, was hurting the Democrats in a Senate race in his state. Bill Clinton had a "little conversation" with Mr. Torricelli and the Torch immediately dropped out of the contest.

I predict that Bill Clinton will be having a "little conversation" with our figurehead President. Before the end of his second term, Barack Hussein Obama will be headed back to Hawaii to spend more time with his family.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: nonsense, 10/29/2013 9:58:14 AM     (No. 9587575)

Communism is the base of all the Big Lies.

By the way, the One looks terrible. All the pictures of the other half of his brain show her looking just fine. Why isn´t the strain showing on the face of evil one who is purported to have given the stand down order in Behghazi?

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Reply 29 - Posted by: Chuzzles, 10/29/2013 10:00:42 AM     (No. 9587580)

Problem is #25, that the insurance companies have retooled their operations for Obamacare, possibly to the point of not being able to turn it around. I am not a business exec, but that is what I have been reading elsewhere recently.

So not only did Obama nationalize the auto industry with thuggery, he has now pretty much killed the insuance industry too. Electrical power plants are starting to get wobbly as he kills the coal industry.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: Safari Man, 10/29/2013 10:12:24 AM     (No. 9587598)

#3 this may sound like picking nits, but see if you agree... I am not convinced Obama is so interested in winning as he in in making sure everyone else loses.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: TruthAndJustice, 10/29/2013 10:16:36 AM     (No. 9587608)

Americans wanted to live together peacefully and equally...and as too many blacks felt they were impacted by slavery of 100 years ago...people felt good in ignoring wqrnings and electing our first black president.

Too many blacks however see it is an opportunity for retribution and for government theft and redistribution. How sad that those whose forbarers fought for freedom eagerly elected a communist and handed over their freedom.
Turned out Obama, Holder, Jarret et all were the disgruntled racist Communists...never worthy of trust.

Obama and his minions lie and destroy as a matter of policy. They remain silent on the outrageous black on white crime yet tried to use race and the Trayvon case as a race baiting tool encouraging their brown shirts toward vengeance, dividing the American people with the hate they sell.
Lies are the least of Obama´s sins. He is an evil, sinister man unworthy of the office his honorable forebarer George Washington held.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: Holeymoses, 10/29/2013 10:25:46 AM     (No. 9587625)

How about: "If You Like Your President, You Can Keep Him."

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Reply 33 - Posted by: K.I.S.S., 10/29/2013 10:28:34 AM     (No. 9587632)

...everything democrats believe in...liberalism, socialism, fascism, marxism, progressism, communism...are all based on lies...obama is doing what all democrats have always done, are doing & will always do...lie...they are incapable of telling the truth.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: KarenJ1, 10/29/2013 10:38:20 AM     (No. 9587646)

FTA: But the critics were right. Obama was either lying to himself or to the rest of us — because he was playing the game to win.

There is no either or about it, 0bama lied because he wanted to be re-elected and if the media had done their jobs we would have known about the horrific, devastating details of this mess before the election. If he had been in the private sector he would be in jail for fraud in the iducement for selling a fraudulent product. I´m so sick, very tired and infuriated with all the lies of this regime without any consequences. I thought things couldn´t get much worse, but sadly I was wrong.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: Me?Opinionated?Nah!, 10/29/2013 10:44:54 AM     (No. 9587652)


At the very least, why do each of us know that a person by the name of Barack Hussein Obama (among his various and sundry other names) exists, much less has twice been elected our President?


Voter fraud and a corrupt media.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: jimmiet, 10/29/2013 10:58:10 AM     (No. 9587665)

The big lie is that anyone is surprised. The dope smoking choom has been lying his entire life. From the author of his memoirs and even before that, to Obiecare NSA and who knows where it will end. I know this one thing there are a whole lot of folks who knew the truth and said nothing and even more backed him in spite of the truth.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: MDMuskrat, 10/29/2013 11:03:49 AM     (No. 9587674)

Studying the Jonah piece and the 33 posts it generated so far, it is hard to be optimistic.

This, my friends, is the essence of what we´re faced with in politics: "So you play the game the way it has been played over the years, and you play to win." -- FDR

Our LDotters analyze and conclude:

#5: “He should be impeached.”
#16: “Who really cares if Obama lies when nothing is done about it and he will continue to do it along with his communist cabal.”

Folks, we are undefended. Only Congress can impeach and what is the probability that in this current climate the Democrats and Republican squishes will impeach the first ´black´ president?

We are reminded by this ever thoughtful poster on what could have improved our already first rate U.S. health care:
#25: “This also assumes that the stinking mess of OVaporCare would be utterly gone and real reform such as tort reform, removal of interstate barriers, restoration of individual health savings plans - all the good market-based ideas - were quickly implemented.”

#32: Spot on!

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Reply 38 - Posted by: Watlines, 10/29/2013 11:33:44 AM     (No. 9587771)

Both Democrat and Republican politicians lie. We all know it.

The difference is that lying is the bedrock of Democratic liberalism. Republicans, thankfully, can be shamed. Not so their opposition.

Barack Obama is the essence of full-blown liberalism at its zenith. Not only does he lie about anything and everything. He believes his lies.

Until Obamacare arrived on October 1, 2013 most Americans, particularly the low-information (stupidly ignorant) voters didn´t care, nor did the mainstream media entrusted to report the noxious swill emanating from the White House and Jay Carney, the administration´s professional liar.

But taking away the health care policies that Americans preferred and charging them more for something they don´t want has awoken even the most ignorant among us.

I love Obamacare, not for what it is, but for what it´s doing: waking Americans up to the fact that liberalism is based on lies, lies, and damnable lies.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: RayLRiv, 10/29/2013 11:55:06 AM     (No. 9587834)

I feel sorry for Øbama. He must really hate his Momma Stanley Ann Dunham.

Whoever would name his child after stomach gas or a belch has some serious issues.

It must sound horrible to Øbama hearing this reminder everytime someone belches or breaks wind out loud


That´s the true seat of his anger...

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Reply 40 - Posted by: MirJoy, 10/29/2013 12:30:52 PM     (No. 9587917)

Simply put, progressives believe THERE IS NO TRUTH; there are just ideas, and ideas change. They really don´t understand the concept of lying.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: owl, 10/29/2013 1:01:57 PM     (No. 9588004)

The last election all but proves just how lame, apathetic, ignorant, gullible and self-centered the American voter has become. The " lo-fo´s " need a swift kick in the wallet to wake up ?. Yes, they do. A nuclear detonation will be necessary to dislodge them from the socialist grip.

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Reply 42 - Posted by: P51DMustang, 10/29/2013 1:15:14 PM     (No. 9588038)

McConnell, McCain and Graham are liars as well. They want this Obamacare and tried to make the GOP believe Cruz, Rubio and the House conservatives were nut jobs undermining the GOP. I will support any conservative who primaries McConnell and Graham. These two RINOS need to be gone.

Worthless loose cannons for the RNC hacks. As for Carl Rove tell him to pound sand; he does not speak for conservatives as an Independent or the GOP.

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Reply 43 - Posted by: Coy860, 10/29/2013 1:26:34 PM     (No. 9588053)

Obamacare and the Government are violating the "property rights" of millions of Americans. They OWN their private healthcare insurance policies and gov´t has no right to cause the loss of those property rights.

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Reply 44 - Posted by: doctorfixit, 10/29/2013 1:54:19 PM     (No. 9588121)

Barack Obama is a lie. Obama is an invention of the mainstream propaganda machine. No past, no records, no accomplishments. He came out of nowhere, he came from nothing. He is Hope and Change. Hope for a life without responsibility, effort, or consequences. Change for any reality that intrudes on the socialist myth. He is the big spider in a giant web of lies.

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Reply 45 - Posted by: 3XALADY, 10/29/2013 2:10:27 PM     (No. 9588154)

Bingo, #45. He is also known as Barry Soetoro, ____ Soebarkah (?) and maybe even as _____ Dunham. Read about these too long ago to remember. ONE of the Social Security number he uses belongs to Herbert Bounell who may have been in Voodoo Granny´s family. His father could be one of several people. I won´t go into the lies brought out above.

For the first about two years of his ´reign´ it was a lonely place here for we conservatives who had paid attention to what he was. It took that long for articles to start appearing written by a few who were beginning to figure him out. They just came in trickles until the second election and now it´s Katie bar the door! We´ve been had, folks. Big time. By this liar and his many minions.

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Reply 46 - Posted by: gramma b, 10/29/2013 3:42:50 PM     (No. 9588283)

He doesn´t have "deep hatred" for all the American people, just the White ones.

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Reply 47 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 10/29/2013 4:31:18 PM     (No. 9588353)

Jonah´s article is dead right.

The thing that amazes me is that anyone ever believed Obama. His demeanor screams "liar."

And we had the evidence before the 2008 election--Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers, "spread the wealth around" to Joe the Plumber, fundamentally transform the USA, and on and on. All anyone had to do was pay attention.

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Reply 48 - Posted by: gone2pot, 10/29/2013 5:41:12 PM     (No. 9588444)

His critics on the right said he was lying, that he was really more interested in income distribution.

All seven of the tea party Republicans that haven´t yet become just Republicans.

Such charges were dismissed as paranoid and even racist.

By all Democrats, most Republicans and the entire staff at the Weekly Standard, you know, that "conservative" publication.

But the critics were right.

No, they were racists while the Weekly Standard has become the new version of Howie Kurtz´s firm grasp of the obvious, especially Fred Barnes; adroitly opining now about what most of us new in the summer of 2008. What a mind.

Obama was either lying to himself or to the rest of us — because he was playing the game to win.

Sadly, he already has and the game is now over but the GOP´s demand for Depends has gone through the roof!

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Reply 49 - Posted by: Rafter, 10/29/2013 7:12:42 PM     (No. 9588576)

O-Bomber lied... Democracy died.

And again, O-Bomber lied... and America died.

Turn out the lights.

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Reply 50 - Posted by: Rafter, 10/29/2013 7:24:33 PM     (No. 9588593)

#28, that´s an interesting thought...

May I suggest the following...

Billyboobboob Klintoon wants Hill-err-ee-ass Herself to become our
First Lesbian President... (okay, he sez bi-sexual... whatever)
and that would of course make himself the...
First Laddie... (borrowed from someone)

So he probably doesn´t want Joseph Biden to get into the White House first...
Since an incumbent DimWit POTUS could probably block the DimWitch Hillary
from securing the nomination.

But... it´s a pleasant train of thought.
I hope for impeachment precisely because, not only does the fraud deserve it...
but a Buh-Biden presiduncy would essentially block Hill-err-ee-ass...

And the Butch Butcher of Benghazi is such a liability, with her corruption and
fraud and raping lying hubby, that Biden would not want her on the ticket...
I would guess...
because Billyboobboob would show up and steal all the headlines and correct
all of the presidunce´s gaffes.

Just my educated guess.

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Reply 51 - Posted by: Dodge Boy, 10/29/2013 8:31:52 PM     (No. 9588668)

And to build a little bit on what poster #11, said, I believe Lenin and Stalin would view Obie with disgust as a failed community organize who couldn´t deliver communism to the USA.

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Reply 52 - Posted by: O.G.´s Mom, 10/29/2013 8:32:33 PM     (No. 9588669)

What difference at this point does it make? as someone once said. We have ObamaCare, we have Obama for at least another 3 years, we have a Senate led by a sleazeball criminal and with a Democrat majority made up of sleazeballs, and, ladies and gentlemen, we have a cowardly establishment Republican Party who will do nothing to alter this train wreck, who is doing everything it can to ruin those in the Party that are trying to stop this train wreck and we have a fawning and compliant press that will continue to hide the truth and spin Obama´s wishes. We have ObamaCare, it is ours and it will never be revoked. So, what difference at this point does it make if Zero lied? This is what the beginning of a dictatorship looks like and we´d better get used to it. Immigration is next. And then whatever else Zero and the Dems want. Sorry for the negativity but it gets worse and worse everyday.

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Reply 53 - Posted by: Tianne, 10/29/2013 10:00:58 PM     (No. 9588784)

Wonderful, thought-provoking article, as always, by Jonah Goldberg,

That our current President can stand before us at all, requires an incredible amount of self-delusion. Our President has no credible family history, no credible scholarly accomplishments, no credible job resume. He is but a shell of a man, who is stumbling through life bereft of any inner guiding principles.

It has been reported that, although he lived a somewhat traveled and privileged life as a child and teenager, he was also concurrently both emotionally neglected and horribly used – his fleeting comfort came at a price. As he grew older, he sought out those who stood for nothing, who believed in nothing, and who only wanted to destroy what others had built. They collectively invented a false purpose for themselves because, although they were all educated, they were shallow, lazy and self-indulgent - they contributed nothing but betrayal, agitation, and chaos. He felt big and comfortable with them as they showered him with praise and adulation.

Now, after a life of easy promotion, what is left is only an elaborate embarrassment without substance. He displays no loyalty, bravery, gratitude, or national commitment.

It has to be painfully difficult for him to admit that he isn’t the man that he presents – that his dreams are just that. So, he continues to live in his own, elusive Obamaworld where he despises his obligations and where he conjures up intricate and laudatory falsehoods to explain his destructive programs, activities, and motives.

Because, at the end of the day, to paraphrase the famous line from, ‘A Few Good Men’, he “can’t handle the truth”.

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Reply 54 - Posted by: Hammock, 10/29/2013 11:05:13 PM     (No. 9588868)

I can´t help pointing out another presidential whopper - Johnson campaigning in 1964 on "No Wider War".

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Reply 55 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 10/29/2013 11:12:45 PM     (No. 9588878)

Not his first lie and it won´t be his last.
We are just too stupid for his socialist ideas. We should roll over and take it. How dare We call him on anything ?

Keep in mind if the tables were turned and GW had done this, Nancy and the Dems would be in front on a camera non stop. If it affected Medicaid and free stuff, you know what would happen.

There is such a simple solution to this and it´s not like we haven´t called and emailed.
All he had to do was mandate ´guaranteed issue´ on health insurance policies and cut our losses or at least demand a refund from Mooochelle´s friends at CGI. When the CEO´s of major insurance companies met with ValJar, they knew the solution too.

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Reply 56 - Posted by: rational, 10/30/2013 8:52:17 AM     (No. 9589293)

You´re a little late #52

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Reply 57 - Posted by: Peterfleming, 10/30/2013 10:57:14 AM     (No. 9589531)

Lenin and Stalin are watching from Communist hell and of course they´ll criticize Obama Jaret holder and Soros.
Obama´s not scheduling as many mass killings of innocent people, to put fear into the peasants, as Lenin and Stalin did Not near as many.a

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