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500,000 Californians Lose
Health Policies

National Review, by Wesley J. Smith

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Posted By:BuckeyeRon, 10/26/2013 7:25:38 PM

My wife, the syndicated San Francisco Chronicle columnist Debra J. Saunders, has learned that at least 500,000 Californians may lose their health insurance next year — and that’s a conservative estimate. From her Token Conservative blog: According to this link as of December 2012, there were 491,977 covered lives in individual health care plans regulated by the state Department Insurance that are not grandfathered under the Affordable Care Act. (If they bought a plan after March 2010, their coverage is not grandfathered.) This is a 2012 number, but if the number of people with private coverage hasn’t changed much in the


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Pros7767, 10/26/2013 7:27:53 PM     (No. 9584023)

Perhaps Jerry Brown will help them out.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Coy860, 10/26/2013 7:30:12 PM     (No. 9584027)

And did they vote for Gov. Moonbeam? Obama?

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Reply 3 - Posted by: ruready?, 10/26/2013 7:30:59 PM     (No. 9584028)

Can you just imagine? You vote for Obama and what do you get?

You end up working two jobs because of Obamacare - without benefits - and you lose your insurance and all you get is a stinkin´ phone.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Chippewa, 10/26/2013 7:35:24 PM     (No. 9584033)

Don´t hold your breath waiting for California LoFo´s to blame Democrats or Obama for this.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: readaholic, 10/26/2013 8:19:07 PM     (No. 9584065)

Doubt she voted for Obama, folks! Don´t tar all of us Californians with the same brush.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Bubbasuncle, 10/26/2013 8:43:22 PM     (No. 9584076)

You vote for 0bama, what do you get
Another day older and deeper in debt
Saint Peter don´t you call me ´cause I can´t go
I owe my soul to the Democrat store...

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Ben Around, 10/26/2013 8:54:13 PM     (No. 9584085)

Keep electing those dems, californicators!

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Reply 8 - Posted by: pilot222, 10/26/2013 9:11:39 PM     (No. 9584091)

We are commenting because we are informed. I believe that 90% of CA citizens dont know dont care and if it is bad will blame it on Bush. Just as dumbed down as the people of NYC ready to elect a socialist. Nothing we can do!!!

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Reply 9 - Posted by: uno, 10/26/2013 10:27:43 PM     (No. 9584142)

The term Stark Raving Stupid comes to mind here...

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Reply 10 - Posted by: CaptainChuck, 10/27/2013 1:56:12 AM     (No. 9584262)

Apparently it is Obama admin regulations that are causing all these policies to die, not the law itself.

If so, Why not change the regulation(s) to allow current policies to remain in force?

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Reply 11 - Posted by: bob913, 10/27/2013 3:38:16 AM     (No. 9584287)

Yet the liberals in that state will keep voting for socialists.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: JediJerry, 10/27/2013 4:56:55 AM     (No. 9584302)

It´s more that that number. Probably 3 times that. Hope it changes? Now that the health care industry has been nationalized, this will only get worse. Good opportunity for Constitutional Conservatives to capitalize. Establishment Republicans can´t since they did nothing to stop it. Come on Cruz, Lee, and all the brave others who stood with them, step up and let´s get this party started. We´ve got a country to restore to liberty and freedom.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: grace1798, 10/27/2013 5:05:19 AM     (No. 9584303)

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Reply 14 - Posted by: grace1798, 10/27/2013 5:06:31 AM     (No. 9584305)

Well, they should be THRILLED, after all, they fought tooth and nail for this!

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Trigger2, 10/27/2013 6:26:12 AM     (No. 9584345)

CA is a wholly owned demonrat socialist/Marxist/communist state. How can anyone feel sorry for those 500,000 who salivate for demonrats and keep electing them over and over and over?

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Bohallx, 10/27/2013 7:04:15 AM     (No. 9584372)

500,000 is a large number, but what about 800,000 in one county in Virginia?

ACA (ObomaKKKare) has more than one element of control and devastation. They´ve pitted HMOs against PPOs against hospitals.

Here in Fairfax Virginia the 800,000 customers of Kaiser can no longer get referrals to doctors or facilities affiliated with INOVA ~ the county´s own hospital system!

On October 1 this year my health insurance for all practical purposes was trashed out by a dispute generated by ACA.

If you get the advertising flashed as you read Lucianne.com you´ll notice that INOVA advertisement ~ it´s all true.

California ain´t no thang compared to that!@

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Reply 17 - Posted by: privateer, 10/27/2013 7:20:33 AM     (No. 9584378)

Hussein lied; Healthcare died.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Rinktum, 10/27/2013 7:34:35 AM     (No. 9584391)

I can´t summon one bit of sympathy for the Obamabots in California. You voted for him. You deserve whatever he dishes out. He and his party have been on a crusade to destroy private insurance under the guise of compassion for those who could not afford it. Does it stick in your craw that he and his fellow government workers are exempt? They like their health insurance and they get to keep it. Experiencing buyer´s remorse yet?

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Reply 19 - Posted by: shamus, 10/27/2013 8:06:19 AM     (No. 9584408)

Any time a politician says they want to be perfectly clear, you can be absolutely certain that they´re telling a big lie.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: saucy, 10/27/2013 8:59:23 AM     (No. 9584487)

And this doesn´t even mention the thousands of small businesses and entrepreneurs in Calif who have been kicked out (or priced out) of Blue Cross/Shield.

They have no advocate shouting for them.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: planetgeo, 10/27/2013 9:23:58 AM     (No. 9584516)

If you want to maintain your sanity and your blood pressure, you´ll stay far away from the LA Times and the reader comments on similar articles that ran this morning. I´d post them, but I care too much for my fellow LDotters to spoil your day. The Obamunists in CA STILL see nothing but unicorns and rainbows in Obamacare.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 10/27/2013 9:41:02 AM     (No. 9584543)

Well, it just another blue State. At least they have their windmills.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Lonestar Jack, 10/27/2013 9:48:19 AM     (No. 9584554)

I am sure that if 500,000 working Californians lost their health care there are 5,000,000 illegals put on "free" healthcare.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: chicodon, 10/27/2013 10:19:33 AM     (No. 9584604)

Probably a result of a backroom deal if you ask me. They are dumping what they consider to be high risk clients onto the exchange. Many are on COBRA continuation plans. By law they had to accept them regardless of pre-existing health conditions after their COBRA expired.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: chicodon, 10/27/2013 10:52:13 AM     (No. 9584662)

Believe it or not, but there are more and more Millennials referring to themselves as Tea Party every day. It´s funny how losing one´s liberty will do that. I make a point of telling them about what the Boston Tea Party was about and who the Sons of Liberty were. They were mostly in their 20´s and 30´s.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: chicodon, 10/27/2013 10:59:15 AM     (No. 9584672)

Slight correction. The ones who boarded the ships were mostly in their 20´s and 30´s.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: nevernaught, 10/27/2013 11:06:40 AM     (No. 9584683)

Here is one fact that most of you overlook when dinging California. Except for Los Angeles and San Francisco the rest of California is mostly conservative. When the Warren Court came up with the one man, one vote decision they destroyed the ability of rural Counties to defend their way of life.

Before that time, each County had one (or 2, I don´t remember) State Senator/s, including Los Angeles and San Francisco. That offset the number of people elected to the Assembly which was by population. Sort of like the US Congress.

That was what destroyed California.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: namvet66, 10/27/2013 11:53:00 AM     (No. 9584735)

#3, You vote for Obama and what do you get? ´´...another day older and deeper in debt´´. Thank you Tennessee Ernie Ford from the song, ´´16 Tons´´.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: Peterfleming, 10/27/2013 11:57:05 AM     (No. 9584739)

California politics is a mini model of Hussein Soros Reid
Puglosi Feinstein Boxer DC Communist subterfuge.
So many of the very worst Washington trash come from California, it would not be a stretch to imagineqq 24/7 conspiratorial connections between the two tyrannies.
Father Jerry Brown, serious Jesuit priest-like, totally controlled by, in debt to, crazed California state unions and their insane almost one trillion dollars of unfunded
pension fund debt, just sitting there quietly, rotting away
the economy of this otherwise beautiful place to live, and historically, the place to start exciting new businesses.
Why do you suppose they´ve arrogantly charged up almost a TRILLION DOLLARS in union organized debt?
Can you imagine that Jesuit Jerry is conspiring with California´s Boxer Feinstein Puglosi and the 151 Catholic members of Congress, to conveniently bail Jerry´s debt ass out, Goldman Sachs QE2 style, as if by magic? and, might that propel the disguised Mussolini Jerry into the Presidential race against a grotesquely weakened and elderly, Evita (Hillary, of course) ?
Just a few weeks ago, the crowd avoiding, unsmiling Jerry, was noisily out on the streets of downtown Los Angeles (little Mexico City with a giant marble cathedral,
to you) smilingly telling the Mexican members of the state that he is giving all the mostly illiterate alien uninsured invaders, the privilege of drivers licenses.
No question that Washington is foul, greedy, self serving
corrupt beyond imagination, but wait, California is running a close second. And those drivers licenses, real and fake, will provide organized voting fraud for an additional twenty plus million new "voters". Jerry Brown,
the perfect set up for our next disaster

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Reply 30 - Posted by: strike3, 10/27/2013 2:23:00 PM     (No. 9584874)

I can almost understand that some people were tricked by barack obama in his first year in office. He was rather accomplished at speaking like a silver tongued devil while saying nothing or creating double meanings. But if you believe any of his lies now after being talked down to and have suffered through his stupidity for five years, shame on you. There is a reason that people and businesses are leaving California in droves, unfortunately, Obama is not the only reason. It´s a liberal pattern of waste, greed and corruption. .

#25 has the only workable solution. Forget help and representation from the current congress. If we want this country back we must take it from them. As for healthcare, since even the private insurance companies have a hand in screwing us, the system will soon go cash-based with far fewer doctors and hospitals.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: Bohallx, 10/27/2013 2:38:51 PM     (No. 9584896)

#31 ~ INOVA is a nonprofit hospital organization. KAISER is also a nonprofit medical insurer.

They are not for profit ~ yet, they are both taking the time to beat up on their customer base.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: larryp, 10/27/2013 3:01:36 PM     (No. 9584920)

yeah, well,the Calif Republican Party had an $800,000 debt and took donations from SEIU and iirc, AFofL to cure it.
so that is the last straw ofcalif having two parties.
And Calif ideas srpead, coming to a state near you or yours~! One party rule.
These goof have turned off thewater to farms in the Central Valley, one of the most fertile and crop growing areas in the World! How stupid is that.For a lizard or minnow or roach.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Daisymae, 10/27/2013 5:25:27 PM     (No. 9585042)

I live in SoCal.

California is actually two states, Orange County, San Bernardino County, San Diego County and everything going east to the Arizona line is a red state.

Los Angeles, San Francisco, etc. a blue state.

Keep in mind and your prayers US Congressman Darryl Issa (R) Vista (San Diego County) he is heading up the investigation into Benghazi among other things

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Reply 34 - Posted by: lc hoghead, 10/27/2013 7:36:04 PM     (No. 9585162)

“And lower-income families will gain access to comprehensive coverage at little or no cost.”

And these are the people who pay no taxes to begin with. And they are going to be treated just as equally as those paying the bills.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: Patchy groundfog, 10/27/2013 8:47:04 PM     (No. 9585241)

Is that the Hope or the Change, dear?

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The Citizens Commission on Benghazi, a self-selected group of former top military officers, CIA insiders and think-tankers, declared Tuesday in Washington that a seven-month review of the deadly 2012 terrorist attack has determined that it could have been prevented – if the U.S. hadn´t been helping to arm al-Qaeda militias throughout Libya a year earlier. ´The United States switched sides in the war on terror with what we did in Libya, knowingly facilitating the provision of weapons to known al-Qaeda militias and figures,´ Clare Lopez, a member of the commission and a former CIA officer, told MailOnline. She blamed the Obama administration

Would YOU be underwater if the
polar caps melted? Map reveals
what our planet would look like
if sea levels rose by 260ft

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Daily Mail (UK), by Ellie Zolfagharifard    Original Article
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Global sea levels have risen by 8 inches (20cm) since 1880 and scientists predict they could rise up to 3ft (98cm) by 2100. But despite the UN’s recent threats of war, famine and extreme weather, such a dramatically different world caused by sea level rise can be hard to imagine. To help picture the future, Martin Vargic, an amateur graphic designer from Slovakia, has created a map depicting the planet with sea levels around 260ft (79m) higher than they are today. He imagines what Earth would look like if the ice sheets surrounding the North and South poles melted, releasing

Reid: ´We Are a Nation of Laws,
Not of Men and Women´

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Cybercast News Service, by Susan Jones    Original Article
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It may not be tomorrow, but Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) says "something will happen" to force a Nevada rancher to obey a court order to stop grazing his cattle on federal land and pay his grazing fees. "It´s obvious that you can´t just walk away from this," Reid said in an April 18 interview with a Nevada´s KSNV-TV News 3 program “What’s Your Point?” "You can´t have a law that is -- we´re a nation of laws, not of men and women," he said. (Video) Reid noted that most cattlemen pay their taxes, pay their fees, and follow

You´re on the clock:
Doctors rush patients out the door

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USA Today*, by Roni Caryn Rabin    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/21/2014 4:35:59 AM     Post Reply
Joan Eisenstodt didn´t have a stopwatch when she went to see an ear, nose and throat specialist recently, but she is certain the physician was not in the exam room with her for more than three or four minutes. "He looked up my nose, said it was inflamed, told me to see the nurse for a prescription and was gone," said the 66-year-old Washington, D.C., consultant, who was suffering from an acute sinus infection. When she started protesting the doctor´s choice of medication, "He just cut me off totally," she said. "I´ve never been in and out from a visit faster." These days,

The Increasing Desperation of Democrats
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National Review Online, by John Fund    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/21/2014 5:19:02 AM     Post Reply
Harry Reid isn’t backing down from his claim that rancher Cliven Bundy’s supporters are “domestic terrorists.” It’s astonishing rhetoric given the White House’s characterization of the mass shooting by a genuine terrorist, Major Nidal Hasan, who killed 13 Americans at the Fort Hood Army base after yelling “Allahu Akbar!” (God is great.) Rather than labeling Hasan’s actions “domestic terrorism,” the Obama administration is prosecuting him for having committed “workplace violence.” Democratic rhetoric is become ever more desperate and overheated as we approach the November midterm elections. Last week, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said that GOP positions on immigration were motivated by

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