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ObamaCare´s Black Box
Wall Street Journal, by Editorial

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Posted By:Desert Fox, 10/16/2013 9:03:02 PM

The White House set low expectations for the Affordable Care Act´s October 1 debut, so anything remotely competent should have seemed like a success. But three weeks on, the catastrophe that is Healthcare.gov and the 36 insurance exchanges run by the federal government is an insult to the "glitches" President Obama said were inevitable. This isn´t some coding error, or even the Health and Human Service Department´s usual incompetence. The failures that have all but disabled ObamaCare are the result of deliberate political choices, which HHS and the White House are compounding with secrecy and stonewalling. *** The health industry and low-level Administration

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Eqkimball, 10/16/2013 9:27:40 PM     (No. 9568599)

The best way to repeal Obamacare is to allow its implementation. An aroused electorate will demand it.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Yo-yo, 10/16/2013 9:54:37 PM     (No. 9568638)

Val-jar or Moochelle?

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Reply 3 - Posted by: stablemoney, 10/16/2013 9:58:05 PM     (No. 9568643)

It´s the law, WSJ. You have been defeated and must publish Obama´s picture on every newspaper. Oh, you already do.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Ida Lil, 10/16/2013 10:05:02 PM     (No. 9568651)

The complete incompetence along the with constant lies has turned the Kommie Kare roll out into either the perfect storm for defeat or the best example of hidden deliberate sabotage found in years.
I do have a preference of which.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: oh-heck, 10/16/2013 10:53:24 PM     (No. 9568692)

As I recall, you can´t appeal and can´t take your case to court. How many people have already had their identities stolen? And how many will find they have already voted next time they try to cast a ballot?

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Reply 6 - Posted by: gaeditor, 10/17/2013 5:57:04 AM     (No. 9568871)

#5 is closer to the truth. This is either about voter fraud or money, maybe both. After all, Democrats are all about power- with no care about the horror it inflicts on others - and they are just plain greedy.

The press could have saved all of this (the imbeciles) if they had just reported on the "park" Obama did as a state senator. An equal failure. No planning, no nothing, friends getting kickbacks, money down a rat hole.

Sound familiar? And I be he pocketed the $70,000 or so that is unaccounted for to buy Michelle´s pedicures. (Sorry about that image before breakfast.)

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Reply 7 - Posted by: StormCnter, 10/17/2013 6:02:19 AM     (No. 9568875)

My husband´s small company got its group insurance renewal forms yesterday. The company is Blue Cross. Included in the upcoming premium is $400 (of a $11,000 monthly premium) that goes to the government for Obamacare. So, even if not signed up for the Affordable Healthcare Act, the government collects money anyway.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: StormCnter, 10/17/2013 6:03:03 AM     (No. 9568877)

The insurer is Blue Cross, I meant.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: lilo, 10/17/2013 7:22:28 AM     (No. 9568948)

Excellent idea #1, but what makes you think this administration will listen to the people?

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Reply 10 - Posted by: djcdjc, 10/17/2013 7:42:10 AM     (No. 9568989)

Phased rollout might have been better (ie Oct 1st A--C).

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Reply 11 - Posted by: PChristopher, 10/17/2013 8:35:07 AM     (No. 9569062)

Most of the IT people I´ve met in government are not especially big thinkers. If you need big-league sort of planning and testing, you´ve got to get it from the private sector...the ones in government are there for the safety factor and know that they only need to produce when they absolutely have to...if then.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: bighambone, 10/17/2013 8:55:38 AM     (No. 9569084)

Since all this is Obama´s signature achievement he is not going to allow any big changes to Obama-care as long as he is in the White House. So America is going to have to live with what they elected, after all you have to figure that the vast majority of people who quickly rushed out to purchase an Obama-care health insurance policy are people who voted for Obama. The affect on other Americans and businesses will be mainly in increased taxes, until the liberal Democrats feel that the time is right to move progressively forward with their ultimate objective, a single payer government run healthcare system for everyone, except the rich and famous who will always have their own first class private health care programs. One thing is for sure, after the government shut down experience, Obama is not going to negotiate any of this with the Republicans.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: geronimo, 10/17/2013 8:57:56 AM     (No. 9569091)

FTA: " to beg Congress for a year delay to clean up their wreckage."

Something I don´t understand here (a LOT actually) but to recommend that Obamacare be delayed for a year, which means people can´t sign up, what would the WSJ suggest people do whose insurance companies have already sent them notification that their existing policies have been cancelled? Go without insurance?

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Reply 14 - Posted by: knarfski, 10/17/2013 9:17:56 AM     (No. 9569134)

The gulf between what´s on paper and reality is huge, not unlike what could be found in many government programs. The appalling manner in which health care was enacted has led to a hodgepodge of ideas. I doubt that Mr. Obama could come close to passing a well-constructed Affordable Care Achievement Test.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Avogadra, 10/17/2013 9:37:03 AM     (No. 9569170)

Speaking from the doctor´s side, it looks anybody who manages to sign up will have a huge deductible. Not a $1000 deductible like you might have on your auto or homeowner´s insurance, but a $5000 or a $12000 annual deductible.

Imagine the screams when Obamabots go to their doctor and find out that they will have to pay out of their own pockets to get services. Except for paying large premiums in addition to paying for the actual services, how is this different from not having insurance at all?

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Reply 16 - Posted by: reilly, 10/17/2013 10:01:23 AM     (No. 9569228)


My independent doctor has no idea how he will be paid to run his office in January. No idea.

Ain´t liberalism grand?


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Reply 17 - Posted by: yourblueroom, 10/17/2013 10:10:30 AM     (No. 9569245)

Amen #16. they´re not gonna understand until they get to the Drs office. where the rubber will meet the road.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: mickturn, 10/17/2013 10:38:41 AM     (No. 9569295)

´White´ House, ´Black´ President (almost), ´Black´ Box, ´Black´ Hole, ´Good old White Boys´...it´s no wonder everything is screwed up, there are only Black/White arguments and no shades of Grey!

I guess if you want ´real´ colors like red, green, purple etc. you have to settle for RED Ink in the Budget...and Black results!

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Grambo, 10/17/2013 10:44:53 AM     (No. 9569307)

With deductibles of this magnitude, this is not health insurance as most people understand it, but rather it’s catastrophe insurance. People will be, essentially, self-insured, and will pay all their non-catastrophic health costs out-of-pocket.

Quite a shock when they thought it was all about free health care.


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Reply 20 - Posted by: chicodon, 10/17/2013 10:53:08 AM     (No. 9569323)

2014 will tell the tale. As in the Twilight Zone, we have crossed over into that imaginary land... I maintain that this country will never be the same. Like all Communist endeavors it will require an increasing police state to enforce it.

We are now in the freeloader signup period. Next will come the forced compliance. At that point all bets are off.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: coldoc, 10/17/2013 11:00:50 AM     (No. 9569344)

I am glad I am old and no longer buying green bananas. The lo-fo chumps who voted in these democrat clowns are going to pay-and pay- and pay. For the others- you have my deepest and most profound sympathy.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: terry_tr6, 10/17/2013 11:01:35 AM     (No. 9569372)

Don´t forget, along with that huge deductable that comes with the "cheap" bronze plan, once you satisfy the deductible, the plan only plays 60%! you still pay 40%. My guess would be that if you offered cash, most doctors would take 50% of the published prices and you could skip the insurance and still pay less than what you do with the insurance(remember, in meeting the deductible, you have to pay "list" prices for care). But that is not allowed. You HAVE to funnel your money through the government.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: mc squared, 10/17/2013 11:15:28 AM     (No. 9569389)

#1; Govt programs never go away. They get patched, bigger, more expensive and more incomprehensible.

And after a few years no private company will still be offering h´care insurance. That´s the plan all along.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: chicodon, 10/17/2013 11:44:24 AM     (No. 9569442)

#23
I fear that in 10 years there will be no doctors in private practices to make such deals.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: SteelTurman, 10/17/2013 12:43:52 PM     (No. 9569528)

#22

My thoughts exactly.

I recently started saving the right meds, just in case.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: danvillebill, 10/17/2013 1:14:37 PM     (No. 9569583)

I may get booed here but...
so what:

I would NOT like to see the ACA delayed for a year to fix it´s gazillions of problems. Let it continue just as it is. I know the pain to many could be significant but I believe we could elect so many Repubs in 2014 that we would absolutely OWN the federal bicameral legislature along with even more state bodies.
Even the Kos-Kids would beg them to undo this disaster.
With the horrors of Obcare front and center next year we would have the most powerful campaign issue in the history of mankind and ANY dem who supported it could kiss his sorry liberal political career away forever.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: agrippa123, 10/17/2013 1:20:23 PM     (No. 9569596)

No one is covering the fact that CGI Federal, the architects of healthcare.gov, is a reincarnation of AMS, which has a history of horrible software development, including $65M wasted on a system for the Federal Retirees Thrift Savings Plan:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A35566-2004Jul7.html
and a $218 million settlement for a failed tax system sold to the state of Mississippi:
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/05/04/business/mississippi-sues-consulting-firm.html

Q: How does a company with such disasters in its recent past get a sole-source $600+million contract?

A: Obamateurs at the helm.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: msjena, 10/17/2013 1:41:15 PM     (No. 9569644)

I just checked out the cost of an individual policy. Wow! The deductible on some is $6,000! That kind of offsets the "low" premium, doesn´t it? And now policies are required to cover maternity costs. Why should a single man have to pay for this? Or a woman who is past childbearing age? Or anyone who doesn´t need it? Also, these policies are quite different from the ones offered before--what happened to, if you like your policy you can keep it. Right now, I am covered at work--but I expect some "surprises" there, too, when the new enrollment period begins.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: dbdiva, 10/17/2013 1:50:26 PM     (No. 9569658)

I agree with #9; in a perfect world our government would listen to us since we are their employers. However this Administration exists solely to promote a certain ideology ~ they have no real interest in anything else and don´t really care whether or not they inflict pain on the country. In fact, I submit that the more pain they inflict the more successful they judge themselves to be.
Even if we´d all revolt, take up our pitchforks and march to the White House that would give them the opportunity to enact martial law ~ just the ´crisis´ they want.
I never thought I would live to fear my own government but it has come to that.
The only thing I look forward to is the divine retribution that will eventually come their way for an eternity.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua, 10/17/2013 3:26:36 PM     (No. 9569809)

What do you get when you put together corruption and incompetence? Obamacare!

Obamacare is nothing more than a scheme to take other people´s money.

We are ruled by thieves.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 10/17/2013 5:25:25 PM     (No. 9570020)

All these high premiums, plus high deductibles, and The Administrator will decide what treatments you can get.

I understand that people over 75 won´t get cancer treatment. I guess they´ll get a pain pill.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: SteelTurman, 10/17/2013 6:16:03 PM     (No. 9570104)

Morphine is dirt cheap.

Pot is legal.

Don´t Worry - Be Happy!

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Rafter, 10/17/2013 7:59:43 PM     (No. 9570260)

The coding error is in O-Bomber´s DNA.

The Oreo POS POTUS is married to a Cookie Wookiee who has even more bad DNA
than he does, if that´s at all possible.

O-BomberKommieKare will never work, but he doesn´t care...
That´s because he´s a Wannabe Kommie Dicktater with a Muslim Socialist background
and the DNA to prove it....

Nothing worked right in the old Soviet Union.
Kommies like it that way.
Yep, it´s in his mom genes... and his Marxist Kenyan dad genes, too...
That´s where the wrong code got started.
Deal with it.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: reillybinx, 10/17/2013 11:41:00 PM     (No. 9570488)

No one has even touched on the new regs drs and hospitals are facing yet. New coding regulations (icd-10) and mandatory EHR´s (electronic health records)!! I forecast more hospitals closing and drs leaving their practices next year than ever before.

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CBSNews.com, by Lindsey Boerma    Original Article
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A married freshman Republican congressman who campaigned on his Christian, conservative values apologized Monday after surveillance video surfaced purportedly showing him in a lengthy liplock with a staffer. In the Dec. 23 footage, obtained by a local newspaper, Rep. Vance McAllister, R-La. - who ahead of his election last fall ran multiple campaign ads trumpeting his faith and family - is seen kissing and embracing a woman for about 20 seconds at his Monroe, La., district office. The Ouachita Citizen reports the woman is the congressman´s 33-year-old part-time scheduler, who is also married.

Millions of Americans aren´t working. Why?
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CNBC, by Allison Linn    Original Article
Posted By: NorthernDog- 4/7/2014 2:32:09 PM     Post Reply
Call it the million-worker mystery. A large chunk of American adults are no longer in the labor force. That has left economists divided over how many of them are voluntarily not working-or even looking for work-because they wanted to retire, go to school or take care of family members, versus how many have been forced out because they couldn´t find a job. (snip) Shierholz estimates that there are currently more than 5 million missing workers who are not included in the unemployment rate because they are neither working nor looking for work, but who might be if the job market

House Committee: Possible
Crimes by IRS Official

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Associated Press, by Stephen Ohlemacher    Original Article
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The chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee says investigators have uncovered evidence that a former Internal Revenue Service official may have committed crimes as part of the agency´s tea party controversy. Rep. Dave Camp set a committee vote for Wednesday on whether to refer Lois Lerner, who used to head the agency´s tax-exempt division, to the Justice Department "for possible criminal prosecution." Camp, R-Mich., did not specify which laws Lerner may have broken. Lerner´s lawyer, William W. Taylor III, has said she broke no laws. On Monday, Taylor emailed this response to Camp´s announcement: "One word: Ridiculous." Camp´s committee has been investigating

Democrats slam ´offensive´
Pelosi image on Breitbart site

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USA Today, by Catalina Camia    Original Article
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The Democratic National Committee is furious by a conservative website’s ad campaign that depicts Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi clad in a bikini in a provocative pose with her tongue sticking out. Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee, called on Republicans to press Breitbart News to remove the artwork — one of several suggestive images on the website promoting the new California site. The image of Pelosi, beneath one of California Gov. Jerry Brown’s face photo-shopped onto a flexing body builder, includes the sub-head: “Because you can’t make this s— up.” “To say the least,

Hank Aaron Compares Republicans
That Oppose Obama To KKK

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CBS, by Staff    Original Article
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Baseball Hall of Famer Hank Aaron compared Republicans that oppose President Barack Obama to the Ku Klux Klan. Speaking to USA Today Tuesday on the 40th anniversary of his then record-breaking 715th home run, the 80-year-old Aaron said that Republicans are hindering Obama’s job performance. “Sure, this country has a black president, but when you look at a black president, President Obama is left with his foot stuck in the mud from all of the Republicans with the way he’s treated,” Aaron told USA Today Sports.

Handling of former IRS employee
Lois Lerner makes lawyers cringe

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Washington Times (D.C), by Stephen Dinan    Original Article
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As the House prepares for several key votes on former Internal Revenue Service employee Lois G. Lerner and potential legal action, analysts say she and her attorney have mishandled their case by picking and choosing when they want to talk, and to whom they are willing to talk. Ms. Lerner faces a vote in the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee on Thursday that could begin the process of accusing her of contempt of Congress. The Ways and Means Committee announced that it will hold a vote Wednesday on whether to officially accuse Ms. Lerner of breaking the law by

Barbara Walters´ Final Scheduled
Television Appearance Announced

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ABC News, by Lesley Messer    Original Article
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Almost a year after she announced her plan to depart daily television, Barbara Walters is preparing to say farewell. Her last day co-hosting "The View," a program that she created, will be May 16, and ABC will air a two-hour special highlighting her life and career that night, from 9-11 p.m. ET. Walters will continue to executive produce "The View," and will be a lifelong member of ABC News, contributing as news warrants. "In this business there are legends, there are icons, and then there is Barbara Walters," Robert A. Iger, Chairman and Chief Executive of The Walt Disney Company said. "She's a dear friend and colleague as well as


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