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Why Ted Cruz is Now Discredited
Commentary Magazine, by Peter Wehner

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Posted By:StormCnter, 10/11/2013 4:16:16 PM

I pointed out the other day that President Obama has unquestionably been hurt by the government shutdown, but Republicans have been hurt more. How bad is it for the GOP? The most recent Gallup poll shows the GOP is viewed favorably by 28 percent of Americans–down 10 points since September and the lowest number for either party since Gallup began asking the question in 1992. “The Republican Party is clearly taking a bigger political hit from Americans thus far in the unfolding saga,” according to the Gallup analysis. Then there’s a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll, which (as Rod Dreher helpfully summarizes)

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This doesn´t have anything to do with how to define "conservative", it has to do with whether anything was gained to offset the increasingly obvious damage to the conservative causes and issues.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: tappin52, 10/11/2013 4:22:00 PM     (No. 9561178)

I stand behind Ted Cruz.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: LanieLou, 10/11/2013 4:23:19 PM     (No. 9561181)

My O MY! WH talking point writers have their panties in a wad today! MSM is reading / writing anti-Tea Party lies so rapidly, the foam dripping from their mouths hasn´t even dried. LOL

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Reply 3 - Posted by: alpha91c, 10/11/2013 4:25:22 PM     (No. 9561187)

Of course with the unending 24/7 barrage of anti-republican propaganda from the dems and their captive MSM, you would not expect the republicans from polling well especially when the same liberal biased media is conducting the polling. To compound it we have heard nothing from the republican leadership either defending or explaining their position. I blame the republican leadership which has been mainly silent or inarticulate. I seriously doubt the tea party, grass root conservative or most thinking independents have changed their positions on Obamacare, runaway government spending or debt.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: SpeedMaster, 10/11/2013 4:27:03 PM     (No. 9561189)

Conservative causes and issues have not been hurt, an argument can be made that establishment republican causes have. You do not always get to pick only the fights you can win.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: gnosticsrus, 10/11/2013 4:27:36 PM     (No. 9561191)

Ted Cruz is my hero! I believe someone had to make a historic stand against socialism taking over this country. I believe he will be remembered for this and for far more in the future. Go Ted!!

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Reply 6 - Posted by: zephyrgirl, 10/11/2013 4:28:28 PM     (No. 9561193)

The RINO surrender caucus in full cry. They´re just slitting their throats with the conservative base.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: alpha91c, 10/11/2013 4:28:58 PM     (No. 9561195)

Ted Cruz has been the only one to articulate an understandable conservative position. Of course the dems and establishment republicans are going to revile him. Out here in small town Texas, we still love and believe in Ted.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Bubbasuncle, 10/11/2013 4:32:40 PM     (No. 9561198)

FTA:"Only 24 percent of those polled have a positive view of the GOP. Fifty-three percent have a negative view–a differential of 29 percent."
Has it occurred to anyone that among the 53% who hold a negative view of Republicans may be CONSERVATIVES who are disgusted by the Republican Establishment and their gutless actions? I certainly am, and that´s how I would have answered the question.
I to stand behind Cruz and Lee.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: alpha91c, 10/11/2013 4:32:59 PM     (No. 9561199)

From a Texan´s point of view: the Defenders of the Alamo did not negotiate with Santa Anna. It is more worthy and honorable to go down fighting for a righteous cause, than to capitulate. Stand firm Ted, hold the line and Remember the Alamo.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Muggins, 10/11/2013 4:36:39 PM     (No. 9561202)

The attacks on Cruz have suffered from a severe lack of specifics. It´s like the Democrats have written up a one-size-fits-all form, at Democratic Headquarters, to discredit the opposition without having to fill the blanks as to why. Merely fill in the name of the opponent, and send it off to the AP and NYT, and the media branch of the Democratic Party goes to work.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: ruready?, 10/11/2013 4:37:03 PM     (No. 9561204)

I am Ted Cruz. I am Sarah Palin.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: jir, 10/11/2013 4:43:01 PM     (No. 9561211)

God bless Ted Cruz and Mike Lee, keep them strong, they represent me until I have an NJ senator who is a conservative. Go Steve Lonegan!

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Reply 13 - Posted by: tennisbum, 10/11/2013 4:44:42 PM     (No. 9561212)

Da polls.....let´s see. We´ll get a random sampling of the populace so long as they are black, females, college kids and registered Democrats otherwise. That is the unbiased objectivity in these samplings.

The so-called mainstream Repubs are worthless. Their agenda has been tried before and failed miserably. Someone needs to emerge as the Repub voice, perhaps Cruz, and articulate simply, clearly and succinctly the Repub strategy, plan and agenda...no wavering....and let the folks decide. With the current state of the Repubs, the Presidency is out of reach and will be lucky to hang onto the House. Fresh blood is needed and a clear plan.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: QRP, 10/11/2013 4:45:01 PM     (No. 9561213)

Not to worry Peter. A lot of these "good" Republicans are going to be trying to line up their lobbying gigs come November 2014.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: dirtydave, 10/11/2013 4:47:43 PM     (No. 9561216)

I am beginning to think this whole government shutdown matter (at 83% in business, it is hardly shut down) is more about discrediting the TEA Party than anything else.

It´s turning into the GOP establishment, the White House and the Democrats in general vs the TEA Party.

And no Ted Cruz is not discredited. He´s just trying to lead a party this to fight in them.

I think this marks the beginning of the end for the GOP. Good riddance.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: JHSMom02, 10/11/2013 4:50:57 PM     (No. 9561219)

This La-Tex-Cajun lady voted for Ted and I will again. Ted, you make us proud. You make the defenders of freedom proud, from Lexington and Concord and Bunker Hill, to the Battle of New Orleans, to the Alamo, to all the battles since then. Never give in.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: kahunavol, 10/11/2013 4:51:49 PM     (No. 9561220)

Peter and the establishment republicans, professional and otherwise, are apparently all Frenchmen who surrender at the sound of enemy fire.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: strike3, 10/11/2013 4:53:00 PM     (No. 9561221)

The writer is another brainwashed "weiner" who still believes in the inevitability of America succumbing to the demands of a third world dictator. Obamacare is dying without anybody´s help. Any more money thrown its way will follow the other billions down the rathole, so the republicans are right in standing fast. The longer this shutdown goes on, the worse Obama looks, so, as far as I´m concerned, they can all go home for the Christmas holiday today.

The poll claims that this is the opinion of "Americans." It all depends on how they define "Americans." People on the permanent dole who think others should pay for their food, shelter and healthcare don´t even deserve to be in this country.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Emerson, 10/11/2013 4:54:40 PM     (No. 9561224)

Some do - and some write.

Courageous Cruz acts on his belief. He is a doer.

Wehner only writes. Criticizing others.

Teddy Roosevelt talked about the Wehners of the world.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: mc squared, 10/11/2013 4:56:01 PM     (No. 9561229)

He´s being Palinized, but I don´t think it will work this time.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: ida Lou Pino, 10/11/2013 4:57:48 PM     (No. 9561233)

Ummm - - Peter, Peter, Pumpkin Eater - - the Pubbies are now AHEAD of your beloved demonrats in the generic Congressional polls.

And that´s the only poll number which means anything - - if any of them do.

And now - - we return to today´s episode of "Leftist Delusions."

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Reply 22 - Posted by: tyshab, 10/11/2013 5:01:14 PM     (No. 9561236)

I stand with Ted Cruz and Mike Lee!

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Reply 23 - Posted by: MisterDickens, 10/11/2013 5:08:24 PM     (No. 9561246)

Time for someone with national prominence to denounce all these polls and especially the pollsters, who are 98% democrat or liberal media outlet owned. Polls of this sort mean absoultely nothing.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Safari Man, 10/11/2013 5:08:54 PM     (No. 9561248)

The reason the GOP is being hurt is because they do not act more like Ted Cruz and, in fact, they undermine him and his efforts at every turn. We need to purge these losers. McCain and his ilk HAVE GOT TO GO.


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Reply 25 - Posted by: Desert Fox, 10/11/2013 5:20:10 PM     (No. 9561256)

Tokyo Roves Gangrene Girl Gang continue to feed their CDS, especially here on this forum. These Social Progressive/Liberals do everything they can to assist their Brothers in Arms in the DemocRat Party and DemocRat Media Complex by getting the latest venomous talking points and parroting them in concert in order to smear the Social Conservatives. Let them continue to blabber like the irrelevant shadows that they be. The Neville Chamberlain Branch of the G.O.P. continue to subversively give support to Hussein 0baMugabe Amin.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: absalom, 10/11/2013 5:22:21 PM     (No. 9561257)

Commentary is an R establishment rag, staffed by the likes of Rubin, Gerson, Tobin, Wehner; who collectively haven´t had an original thought since birth. Just liberal mouthpieces of the banal and trite, for the so called "R leadership".
Guess who posted this pedantry?

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Reply 27 - Posted by: yuban, 10/11/2013 5:35:40 PM     (No. 9561267)

Palin, Cruz and Lee.... my three amigos.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: jeffkinnh, 10/11/2013 5:37:20 PM     (No. 9561269)

Kudos to Ted Cruz for standing up for rational conservative principles. Other Republicans seem scared of their shadows and have let the liberals drive the country off a cliff with barely a murmur of protest. Sorry, just voting "no" on something bad is NOT enough. You need to stand up and make a strong case against it, even if you can´t win. Why? Because some people are listening and a few might get it. If all they hear from the opposition is silence they think the liberals are right. They need to hear the Conservative alternatives, over and over.

The Rove Republicans have a fine calculus that says that they shouldn´t bother to fight for things they cannot win. But when you have current arrangement in Washington, winning is an occasional, pale,and fleeting thing. The country sees the Republicans as silent, bereft of ideas, and cast as the liberals wish them to be seen. Republicans should have spent the past 5 years with a carefully crafted message that assaults the failures of liberalism, not just an occasional groaning about the way things are.

Wehner should get out of the kitchen if he can´t take the heat.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: Penney, 10/11/2013 5:47:26 PM     (No. 9561285)

In fact, it is the dems´ monotone media which has been exposed and discredited by its obvious politically biased statist agenda, 24/7, day in day out. The MSM is out of touch & thus disconnected from reality.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: Foggybottom, 10/11/2013 5:51:19 PM     (No. 9561291)

What would be the conservative items damaged by Senator Cruz poster? You seldom are specific in your comments. I take issue with Peter Wehner diatribes against real conservatives and the other part of your comment is false. It has everything to do with how you define a conservative.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: eoddad, 10/11/2013 6:16:45 PM     (No. 9561329)

I recently returned to Texas and Sen. Cruz has at least ONE Lifelong supporter. Glad to say I straddle two of the BEST Conservative Congressman´s from Districts in SE Texas Congressmen Brady and Stockman I will be glad to support them as well.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: BaseballFan, 10/11/2013 6:17:37 PM     (No. 9561332)

Obviously, Cruz hit a nerve, and it´s painful for the Left. Why else would they keep up the smear campaign?

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Reply 33 - Posted by: saguni, 10/11/2013 6:19:12 PM     (No. 9561335)

Why Peter Wehner is Now A Discredited LIEberal Propagandist

There, FIFY

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Reply 34 - Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth, 10/11/2013 6:20:19 PM     (No. 9561337)

It seems one of the resident Bob Michel Republicans failed to get the response they expected when they posted this article.

Maybe the rest of the usual suspects had a committee meeting at the country club, or something.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: mikkins2, 10/11/2013 6:23:54 PM     (No. 9561342)

Republican Establishment talking points dressed up to be an article. The only people being discredited by this fight is the Republican Establishment and the lackeys who feed off their scraps.

Got Tea?

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Reply 36 - Posted by: StormCnter, 10/11/2013 6:27:22 PM     (No. 9561347)

#35, anyone posting anything about Ted Cruz on this forum knows exactly what the reaction will be. You have to remember, it´s all about the clicks and a Cruz piece gets lots of them.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth, 10/11/2013 6:32:55 PM     (No. 9561355)

uh-huh, sure it is.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: ScarletPimpernel, 10/11/2013 6:58:20 PM     (No. 9561398)

"brinksmanship, ill-considered, imprudent, selfish, and harmful to his party and the conservative cause."

Well, well, well, another hit piece on Ted Cruz, and a desperate one at that. Discredited? Seriously?? But it´s sure to please any and all French Republicans and the Rovettes. And I know who´s going to have the last laugh. Hehehe.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: stablemoney, 10/11/2013 7:20:15 PM     (No. 9561424)

I do not know who supports commentary magazine but it is not me, even for free.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: fritzilou, 10/11/2013 10:54:34 PM     (No. 9561654)

After watching Podhoretz verbally abuse someone at a meeting, I now addPeter Wehner to those who have discredited themselves with me. I´m sure these two writers for Commentary have chosen their favorite for 2016 Presidential nominee and see Ted Cruz as a threat. They are no better than the Democrats who slander Republicans. They and Karl Rove are truly annoying, to say the least.

One of the major reasons we always lose is that these type of people always chose the candidates. They didn´t chose Cruz and we got the first winner in a long time. Mike Lee is another sterling person and all they get for being bold and correct is slander.

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Daily Beast, by Mark McKinnon    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/13/2014 6:11:32 PM     Post Reply
They’re both qualified, respectful of each other (shocker!), and represent the vast majority of middle America. So what’s not to like about another Clinton/Bush race for 2016? When you mention the prospect of Clinton vs. Bush 2016 a funny thing happens. First, there is the reflexive response: "Oh no, not again. We don´t need more dynastic politics in this country." But upon further reflection, you realize Jeb Bush vs. Hillary Clinton would be a great race and actually good for the country. Let´s review. QUALIFICATIONS—THEY’VE BOTH GOT THEM. Barack Obama won the presidency because in an election where the premium was on change, it mattered little

The world must shift to solar and wind
power rapidly to avoid catastrophic global
warming, say UN scientists in major report

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Daily Mail (U.K.), by Ben Spencer    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/13/2014 7:15:31 PM     Post Reply
A rapid shift to wind and solar power is needed if the world is to avoid catastrophic global warming, the United Nations warns in a crucial report today. Emissions of greenhouse gases need to be cut by up to 70 per cent before 2050 to control climate change, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) says. ‘Large-scale changes in energy systems’ are required, with coal power stations to be switched off and replaced by wind and solar. And the transformation needs to be made in the next 15 years or controlling climate change will become increasingly harder and more expensive. The report was published

Brit Hume: Obama, Holder
‘Benefited Enormously’ From
Being African American

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Mediaite, by Evan McMurry    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/13/2014 9:14:46 PM     Post Reply
On Fox News Sunday, political analyst Brit Hume said that Eric Holder’s claim that his treatment at the hands of Representative Louie Gohmert (R-TX) at a House hearing this week was unprecedented toward an Attorney General, made him a “crybaby,” and that he and President Barack Obama had in fact benefited “enormously” from being the first African Americans in their respective positions. “This strikes me as kinda crybaby stuff from Holder,” Hume said. “My sense about this is both Eric Holder and Barack Obama have benefited politically enormously from the fact that they are African American and the first to

Nevada GOP removes social issues from platform,
moves ahead with pre-primary endorsements

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Associated Press, by Sandra Chereb    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/13/2014 3:48:58 PM     Post Reply
LAS VEGAS — The Nevada Republican Party stripped opposition to abortion and gay marriage from its platform Saturday as state convention delegates instead focused on judging fellow Republicans on their worthiness to serve in office and adherence to GOP values. The platform, with few changes, was adopted overwhelmingly as the Las Vegas convention stretched late into the evening. The vote mirrors that of the Clark County GOP, which voted earlier to remove platform language defining marriage as between a man and a woman and statements opposing abortion. Many Republicans are re-evaluating their strong stances on conservative social issues as public

Goodbye tea party, hello big tent
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Washington Post, by Jennifer Rubin    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/13/2014 5:08:01 AM     Post Reply
Say what you will about Sens. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and Ted Cruz (R-Tex.), but they know a train wreck when they see it. They also know when to separate themselves from the cranks and the losers on the right. Although both supported the shutdown and were heartily supported by tea party groups in their own Senate races, neither one has endorsed Matt Bevin in Kentucky, Milton Wolf in Kansas or Chris McDaniel in Mississippi. In fact, Cruz’s office confirms he hasn’t endorsed anyone in the primaries. He may weigh in after the primaries. Rand Paul has endorsed two very establishment

Video: Flash mob of women steal
$20,000 worth of sunglasses
from California store

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New York Daily News, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: Ribicon- 4/13/2014 10:50:38 AM     Post Reply
A brazen flash mob has been caught on camera storming a California store and making off with $20,000 worth of sunglasses. Surveillance footage shows eight women piling into a Sunglass Hut and crowding around display cases. Shielding workers from what they´re doing, they quickly stuff dozens of fashion specs into their bags. A store clerk pleads with them to stop, before running out of the shot to get help and dial 911. The thieves then all bolt outside and escape in a waiting SUV. The incident occurred at the Valencia Town Center mall, in Santa Clarita, at 3 p.m. on

You´re in denial if
you think Steve Israel is
wrong about GOP racism

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Daily Beast, by Michael Tomasky    Original Article
Posted By: Fiesta del sol- 4/14/2014 6:09:58 AM     Post Reply
Some time back, whenever a big racial controversy erupted, I trained myself into the habit of reading about it at FoxNews.com, just for the unbelievable comment threads. Let’s put it this way: If my friends and I went out to a bar and started playing a “let’s write the racist FoxNews.com comment thread” drinking game, our efforts couldn’t begin to approach what I read there.I wasn’t alone. Liberal websites started feasting on these threads. And so, a couple of years ago, Ailes & Co. got wise. Stories about race were, at least in my disheartened experience, closed to comments.

Democrat Center Folds
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American Thinker, by Clarice Feldman    Original Article
Posted By: real fifi- 4/13/2014 7:44:30 AM     Post Reply
It’s hardly been a secret that in recent years the moderate center of the Democrat party has been driven away and what remains is a conglomeration of disparate blocs which, to date, the party has been able to treat as if there were no conflicting interests between them. As the midterm elections approach and the administration’s incompetence, along with the distaste for the president’s signature ObamaCare legislation, drive the party’s chances down further, the make-believe coalition of opposites may well crumble if the opposition doesn’t blow it. Democrats hope to retain control of the Senate and recapture the House by driving


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