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NBC/WSJ poll: 60 percent say
fire every member of Congress

NBC News, by Dominic Montanaro

Original Article

Posted By:M2, 10/11/2013 9:02:29 AM

Throw the bums out. That’s the message 60 percent of Americans are sending to Washington in a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll, saying if they had the chance to vote to defeat and replace every single member of Congress, including their own representative, they would. Just 35 percent say they would not.(snip) The 60 percent figure is the highest-ever in that question recorded in the poll, registered in the wake of the government shutdown and threat of the U.S. defaulting on its debt for the first time in history.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: OhMy, 10/11/2013 9:14:03 AM     (No. 9560420)

I agree generally but I would make 3 or 4 exceptions beginning with Cruz and Lee.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Former lurker, 10/11/2013 9:14:23 AM     (No. 9560421)

I just read that 20% of people polled were government workers. Does anyone know if this is fact? If so, explains poor R results and once again exposes the bias that shapes public opinion.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: franq, 10/11/2013 9:18:25 AM     (No. 9560425)

I prefer the Mars Attacks! solution. Just make sure the handful of conservatives are stuck in Beltway traffic.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: gwmcclintok, 10/11/2013 9:23:32 AM     (No. 9560432)

These people want a king, emperor or dictator. They want the Congress to just rubber stamp anything the majority wants with Obama in control. It is by design that our country has checks, balances and gridlock....less the majority force tyranny on the minority. We are not suppose to get along and have bipartianship. It is the House of Reps that have control of the purse, not the white house.
The people have a right to say no! You can´t spend us into oblivion.
Washington is now like England under King George with mandates, rules, taxation and we the people can go to hell.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Felixcat, 10/11/2013 9:24:34 AM     (No. 9560437)

Not all members of Congress should be fired. This poll just show how ignorant so many Americans are about the legislative process and the current fiasco. The House has passed bill after bill to fund various departments; budgets for the US, etc but because Harry Reid (D) in the Senate will not allow these bills to come for a vote in the Senate -nothing happens. The problem with Congress is Harry Reid. Prior to 2009, Congress actually passed appropriations bills that would fund all the departments for the fiscal year -not this continuing resolutions garbage.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: tobias, 10/11/2013 9:26:47 AM     (No. 9560442)

repeal Obamacare
No more CR,Present a real budget
Do not raise the debt limit
Impeach the president

Our congress refuses to allow any of this to happen. Throw all the bums out.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: mamafrog, 10/11/2013 9:33:58 AM     (No. 9560466)

The question was do you have a government worker at any level living with you . . . . that includes teachers, bus drivers, military and others so 20% is a reasonable number. These are terrible numbers for the Republican Party and even worse for the Tea Party.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: oldmagnolia, 10/11/2013 9:34:06 AM     (No. 9560468)

This country needs a national enema. Then, a colonoscopy, to see if somebody was left behind. Except for the Pentagon, State, and Commerce depts., the rest should be dismissed. This includes all the illegal alphabet agencies and anybody in between. We should divide every state in four parts with only four congressmen in the House - no more district gerrymandering.
Senators should be named by the states per the constitution. Politicians should be forbidden to lobby after they leave office subject to put in Leavenworth for life. Well, I know I forget something, but you get the picture.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: offrope, 10/11/2013 9:34:31 AM     (No. 9560469)

60% say Fire Them All. Yet, 95% of them will be reelected. We get the governance we deserve.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: congaree53, 10/11/2013 9:41:23 AM     (No. 9560479)

Poll shows a sea change in public opinion and it is not good for GOP. Obama approval up 2 points to 47, GOP approval in toilet and a 9 point Dem generic advantage. And Ted Cruz is upside down in approval for those who even know who he is. Teddy is a good debator but a lousy general. He should have guessed when he launched his strategery that Obama would not cave. Obama now has one advantage that he lacked during the debt ceiling debates of 2011: He no longer has to face reelection. One risk to Obama during 2011 was that even if a debt ceiling breach endangered many congressional Republicans, it could also have injured his reelection chances because of the long-term damage to the economy. Voters could have chosen both a new Congress and a new president, though I doubt they would have chosen clueless Mittens.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: jimmiet, 10/11/2013 10:06:13 AM     (No. 9560514)

Obama approval ratings increased to 47%. Two days ago they were in the 30´s. There very little truth getting through the media blitz to save Obamacare. Meanwhile has anyone heard of Benghazi lately? The circus keeps the acts going to keep the attention off the the donkey and elephant crap that is piled higher and higher.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: zephyrgirl, 10/11/2013 10:07:48 AM     (No. 9560517)

This poll was of 800 adults (not registered or likely voters, or even citizens), and oversampled Democrats and government workers.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: BaseballFan, 10/11/2013 10:08:59 AM     (No. 9560521)

Small business idea:

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Dadofboys, 10/11/2013 10:20:11 AM     (No. 9560541)

Term limits!!!!!

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Reply 15 - Posted by: arkfamily, 10/11/2013 10:21:59 AM     (No. 9560545)

The powers to be are really trying hard to convince the public what they should believe. We should believe that the Republicans are to blame in all of this and poor Obama can´t do what he wants to do.

If there is a percentage of blame attributed to the Republicans, it would be 5-10% in my book. I blame a great portion of this mess on Obama, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Democrats, and liberals.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: mark of fish, 10/11/2013 10:34:46 AM     (No. 9560571)



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Reply 17 - Posted by: TunnelRat, 10/11/2013 10:36:52 AM     (No. 9560576)

There is a consensus: we all agree that every member of Congress should be fired, except ours.

Further, all benefits and spending should be cut, except the ones we like...

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Reply 18 - Posted by: mark of fish, 10/11/2013 10:37:45 AM     (No. 9560579)

New amendment please: Congress shall make no law which applies to its members or any other employee of any government agency or entity differently than it applies to other persons.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: bighambone, 10/11/2013 10:43:58 AM     (No. 9560599)

As Tip O´Neill used to advise, congressional politics is local, so a national poll regarding Congress is really not worth a hill of beans. Because as long as the majority of constituents in the State or District where the individual Senator or Representative is from agree with the positions that their Senator or Representatives is taking, nothing will change and chances are great that the Senator or Representative will get re-elected.

In that respect, who cares what a group of liberal people in New York or California think about what a conservative Senator or Representative from Texas or Utah is doing, as what they think is irrelevant to that Senator or Representative and his or her constituency.

The same is not true for the President because his constituency is the whole country.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Joe vann, 10/11/2013 10:45:26 AM     (No. 9560604)

I agree with 5 and 15.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: nihtwael, 10/11/2013 10:52:15 AM     (No. 9560616)

Fire them? That´s incredibly lenient.

Doesn´t matter anyway, the electorate will replace them with more of the same.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Chuzzles, 10/11/2013 10:52:30 AM     (No. 9560617)

#2 has opened a very interesting can of worms with that question.

If employees and relatives of said employees are legally prohibited in participating in contests run by their employers, I think Government employees should fall under the same rules in regards to polls and other stuff that affect this Country.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: RancherJack, 10/11/2013 10:55:22 AM     (No. 9560625)

Translation - Democrats are winning behind the scenes and the Mitch McConnell Brigade of Doddering Plantation Masters are losing.

As predicted ..

No Film@11

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Ret.TxLeo, 10/11/2013 11:02:52 AM     (No. 9560645)

And again...who are polling? Anybody that lives in Realville? And the alphabet drive by media consistently cherry picks and then total spins what comes off the teleprompter...then out of the mouth of the bobble talking head in front of the camera. Safe to say 80% of those in Congress need to be not just fired but sitting in jail with everything they acquired through illegal means while abusing their office taken away and given back to the taxpayers. They have forgotten the "serve the people" portion of their oath as well as the "protect and up hold the Constitution of the United States". And yes I would want to keep one Senator...the other needs to go...and I am sad to say he is not the man he was when he started out...but he has become a man of his environment...sleezy,backroom dealing, untruthful and a DC elistist.....and our family hosted many an event to help his get elected...he needs to come back to Texas and remember his roots.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: snowoutlaw, 10/11/2013 11:07:23 AM     (No. 9560654)

Stupid question since it can´t be done. Only reason for the poll is so the lying media can continue to never report that most all the problems are caused by one party that is always perfect in their lying eyes. Not fire, arrest in more in order for many.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: SouthSanAntonio, 10/11/2013 11:07:58 AM     (No. 9560657)

Mr Senator is Ted Cruz, so I want him to stay. And any like him that truly stand for the Constitution. Sadly, we can count them on one hand.

The rest can, and should, all go.

This nation was mortally wounded on 11-6-2012. Our only hope of surviving is to return to our Constitutional roots. Sadly, few in Congress care about anything except their own power, prestige and perks.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Hermoine, 10/11/2013 11:13:47 AM     (No. 9560673)

The whole "everyone hates" Congress schtick is as old as the republic itself. It´s so easy to "hate" Congress as a body, but that´s not how our system works. Everyone hates Congress, but generally, likes their own Congressman (woman). It´s a diversionary tactic and the press only reports on it when the GOP controls one or both chambers. Do you remember all the reporting on how much people hated Congress when Reid and Pelosi were running the show? No? And, do you remember how shocked, SHOCKED, the media were when the grassroots of the country threw the Dems out in 2010? And do you remember what the President did? Started silencing the grassroots Tea Partiers by auditing them.

My advice to Boehner and the rest of the GOP -- ignore the polls, you are in thick of it now, you cannot go all wobbly, you must press ahead...to come this far only cave under the pressure of misleading polls is asinine.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: odinsacolyte, 10/11/2013 11:15:41 AM     (No. 9560678)

Congress. Administration. Justice. Get ´em all.
It avails nothing if one does not clean out civilian government employees too.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 10/11/2013 11:18:30 AM     (No. 9560683)

They left out the idiot in the White House. If our nation ever again elects a Democrat to the WH- I may just have to leave the country myself.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: Philipsonh, 10/11/2013 11:25:41 AM     (No. 9560702)

When a team fails, the manager and coaches should be released, not the players. Everything that is occurring is being orchestrated by the WH, the WH staff, the advisors, and the leaders of the Democratic party. The mess stared in Sept 2001 with the GOP leaders going to war and it has not stopped since. It´s just a continuing downward spiral which cannot be broken until rational people are elected to office, should it ever happen. There are plenty of good people in Congress but they are scared to think for themselves and to represent their
Constituents.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: floydhowardjr, 10/11/2013 11:34:04 AM     (No. 9560725)

RINO”S you’re going home! The Tea Party "is" the Republican Party. Its members are the majority. We will not be dissuaded, deluded, compromised, delayed, detoured, bought or lured away. We will not flinch in the face of sacrifice, negotiate at the table of corruption, hesitate in the presence of adversary or meander in the maze of mediocrity. We won´t give up, shut up or let up because we´re prayed up and suited up. You won´t have any problem recognizing us! We’re through with your phony, backstabbing, panty waist, cloistered backroom clique politics that have brought our country to ruin and the party to impotence. WE WILL VOTE YOU OUT!!!! WE WILL VOTE YOU OUT!!!! GOOD RIDDANCE!!!!



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Reply 32 - Posted by: dman, 10/11/2013 11:37:34 AM     (No. 9560733)

First, remember that this is an NBC/WSJ poll. Second, reading the .pdf details it comes across that there is a great deal of dissatisfaction, with the Dems holding an edge at this time. However, the number of "undecideds" or "not sures" could swing the next election either way.

What I take away from this is that there is a political vacuum to be filled. Can the GOP straighten up and do it, or is a new party the only remedy?

Just stay firm, Republicans, stay firm. Remember that many of us are looking at results, not just process. A "cave" can no longer be disguised.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: chicodon, 10/11/2013 11:53:45 AM     (No. 9560760)

I thought Obama was part of the equation. I guess they forgot to ask about that. This looks like a push poll designed to soften up Republicans. There´s a lot of flak flying around right now from both sides.

The giveaway was "Democratic pollster Fred Yang, who helped conduct the poll with Hart, added that Americans are paying attention to this fight and want it resolved before the debt ceiling deadline of Oct. 17."

OK then, call out Obama.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: killerbee, 10/11/2013 11:57:18 AM     (No. 9560762)

#1: I agree except that I´d like to see Cruz and Lee run for the governorships of their states. Get a whole new congress (firing all of them might be the only way to get rid of the McCains and Durbans of the bunch) and have a nice free-for-all in elections for the new congress.

Democrats almost never have to fight off a primary challenger. It just never happens. I´d love to see that too.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: tommyr, 10/11/2013 12:06:39 PM     (No. 9560782)

Of course Brian Williams and Chuck Todd, said the poll reflected on the Republicans in the House but neglected to find the democrat scum in the senate to be failures. Note to Brian--You are being used by the corrupt Obama/Pelosi/Reid machine.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: Lalo, 10/11/2013 12:17:08 PM     (No. 9560797)

I´ve heard some ignoramusi say this, too. Apparently they´re not aware the reps are elected.

Congress is making a valiant, if doomed, effort to fight Obamacare. Too bad we can´t fire the electorate & the won they elected!

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Reply 37 - Posted by: Butch59, 10/11/2013 12:57:16 PM     (No. 9560873)

Ok. If 60% of American wants to get rid of the entire congress, then where are those that are willing to join a revolutionary army? That´s the only way that it can be done. And while we´re at it, lets clean out the executive brand and the federal judicary too. There are plenty of problems in those two branches too. If we do all of that, then we can begin all over again with a clean slate. And with the knowledge of how to prevent the same thing from happening again. Just take the list provide by #8 and add a few more things to it, and we can finally have a country that if free and operates in the manner the original founders intended. Me, I´m ready to sign up NOW.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: peterfleming, 10/11/2013 2:45:40 PM     (No. 9561048)

More media lies, "fire them all", to get attention, then propaganize the rest of the article with compromise, raise the deficits
keep rolling to collapse once you have them.


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Reply 39 - Posted by: kono, 10/11/2013 2:59:02 PM     (No. 9561063)

How about running a more realistic poll -- such as "should we keep or fire our own reps?" -- the % saying ´fire´ would more likely come in below 50%. Few people want to risk losing whatever political leverage their reps might have in Congress, so most would wind up voting to keep their own incumbents.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua, 10/11/2013 3:25:40 PM     (No. 9561100)

Truth is at least 75% of our elected officials should be replaced since they are more interested in serving themselves than serving the public or looking out for the country as a whole. My senators are Dems, and my congressman is a Dem-lite Republican. I would not miss any of them.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: congaree53, 10/11/2013 4:02:13 PM     (No. 9561158)

Today I got this email from a Dick Morris site:
Dear Friend,Today on my radio show, I´ll discuss the dismal new poll data showing that people blame the shutdown on the Republicans by 53-31 and that the Republican Party´s approval rate has dropped ten points in two weeks to an all time low of 24%. How can we get out of this mess and go back on offense?"

Didn´t Dick predict a Romney landslide on Hannity. Fox fired Dick bit should have fired Sean and Karl Rove as well for polling malpractice.

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Reply 42 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 10/11/2013 11:14:04 PM     (No. 9561667)

We can fire them in the voting booth.
You should have fired Zippy when you had the chance.

Term limits and a retirement age.

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lack experience for 2016

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The Hill [Washington, DC], by Mario Trujillo    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/22/2014 11:18:06 AM     Post Reply
Former Sen. Bob Dole (R-Kan.) said a number of junior GOP senators considering a presidential run in 2016 do not yet have the experience — specifically naming Rand Paul (Ky.), Marco Rubio (Fla.) and Ted Cruz (Texas). The former 1996 GOP presidential candidate sounded particularly skeptical of Cruz in an interview this week with The Wichita Eagle. "A number of the younger members, first-termers like Rand Paul, Rubio and that extreme-right-wing guy, Ted Cruz — all running for president now. I don´t think they´ve got enough experience yet," Dole said. The 90-year-old former senator said, however, his main concern about 2016 is living

Jeb Bush is your only chance
against Hillary, Republicans

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Hot Air, by Bob Schrum    Original Article
Posted By: quantumman- 4/22/2014 6:32:54 AM     Post Reply
If Jeb reaches for the nomination, there will be a titanic battle between the party establishment and the Tea Party. Steve Schmidt, McCain’s strategist in 2008, insists that in the end Republicans usually settle on the most electable candidate. To get by, this Bush may be forced to trim his positions, although the cautionary tale of Romney suggests that he would have to tack artfully and carefully for the sake of the general election. Certainly he will have the resources to outlast, discredit, and disqualify his rivals.

Michelle Obama:
´splurging is the key to life´

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Associated Press, by Staff    Original Article
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Washington - Michelle Obama said "splurging is the key to life" if you regularly eat right and stay active. Her biggest guilty pleasure: French fries. "How would you appreciate vegetables if you never had chocolate?" she asked. "You couldn´t live without a little chocolate, a little French fries." The first lady took questions from children reporters Monday after appearing at the White House Easter Egg Roll. She told the children that if they eat right the majority of the time, then a splurge or snack is not going to hurt them. "I still splurge when I can, but that's why I try to exercise almost every day," she said.

Fraud runs rampant in Census Bureau
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New York Post, by John Crudele    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/22/2014 5:03:20 AM     Post Reply
There’s a pattern of falsifying statistics throughout the entire Census Bureau. And anyone who attempts to blow the whistle on the fraud is either retaliated against or ignored, according to two new sources who have experienced the process firsthand. As I’ve been writing for more than six months, the Census Bureau office in Philadelphia uncovered a case of fraud in 2010, did nothing about it and allowed the practice to continue. In that instance, a data collector named Julius Buckmon was faking reports that went into the nation’s all-important jobless tally and consumer-inflation survey. Because the Census Bureau’s surveys are scientific — meaning

Professor: ‘Colleges Will Start Closing Up’ if
‘Racist, Misogynist, Money-Grubbing’ GOP Wins

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National Review Online, by Andrew Johnson    Original Article
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New audio reveals an Eastern Connecticut State University professor warning that Republicans will “want things to go back — not to to 1955, but to 1855? if they win control of Congress in November. Republican victories could also put him out of a job, he cautioned. “We will live in a very, very, very different kind of country if that happens,” Professor Brent Terry told students in his Introduction to Creative Writing course, according to audio obtained by Campus Reform. “I mean, colleges will start closing up if these people have their way.” Over the course of his rant, Terry characterized conservatives

But Seriously, Just How
Slow-Witted is John Boehner?

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American Thinker, by C. Edmund Wright    Original Article
Posted By: quantumman- 4/21/2014 7:22:21 AM     Post Reply
As he moves from lobbyists to the golf course, from press conferences to the tanning bed, he remains oblivious to all that is around him. He has power, incredible power, and yet to this day he has no understanding of the election that made it so. Moreover, all around him are astonishing opportunities for him to be an historic figure -- one who could and should be the man who did more than any other single person in turning back the red tide of Obama. It’s all there for Speaker of the House, and yet John Boehner manages to miss

Benghazi attack could have been prevented if
US hadn´t ´switched sides in the War on Terror´
and allowed $500 MILLION of weapons to reach
al-Qaeda militants, reveals damning report

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Daily Mail [UK], by David Martosko    Original Article
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The Citizens Commission on Benghazi, a self-selected group of former top military officers, CIA insiders and think-tankers, declared Tuesday in Washington that a seven-month review of the deadly 2012 terrorist attack has determined that it could have been prevented – if the U.S. hadn´t been helping to arm al-Qaeda militias throughout Libya a year earlier. ´The United States switched sides in the war on terror with what we did in Libya, knowingly facilitating the provision of weapons to known al-Qaeda militias and figures,´ Clare Lopez, a member of the commission and a former CIA officer, told MailOnline. She blamed the Obama administration

Would YOU be underwater if the
polar caps melted? Map reveals
what our planet would look like
if sea levels rose by 260ft

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Daily Mail (UK), by Ellie Zolfagharifard    Original Article
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Global sea levels have risen by 8 inches (20cm) since 1880 and scientists predict they could rise up to 3ft (98cm) by 2100. But despite the UN’s recent threats of war, famine and extreme weather, such a dramatically different world caused by sea level rise can be hard to imagine. To help picture the future, Martin Vargic, an amateur graphic designer from Slovakia, has created a map depicting the planet with sea levels around 260ft (79m) higher than they are today. He imagines what Earth would look like if the ice sheets surrounding the North and South poles melted, releasing

Reid: ´We Are a Nation of Laws,
Not of Men and Women´

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Cybercast News Service, by Susan Jones    Original Article
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It may not be tomorrow, but Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) says "something will happen" to force a Nevada rancher to obey a court order to stop grazing his cattle on federal land and pay his grazing fees. "It´s obvious that you can´t just walk away from this," Reid said in an April 18 interview with a Nevada´s KSNV-TV News 3 program “What’s Your Point?” "You can´t have a law that is -- we´re a nation of laws, not of men and women," he said. (Video) Reid noted that most cattlemen pay their taxes, pay their fees, and follow

You´re on the clock:
Doctors rush patients out the door

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USA Today*, by Roni Caryn Rabin    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/21/2014 4:35:59 AM     Post Reply
Joan Eisenstodt didn´t have a stopwatch when she went to see an ear, nose and throat specialist recently, but she is certain the physician was not in the exam room with her for more than three or four minutes. "He looked up my nose, said it was inflamed, told me to see the nurse for a prescription and was gone," said the 66-year-old Washington, D.C., consultant, who was suffering from an acute sinus infection. When she started protesting the doctor´s choice of medication, "He just cut me off totally," she said. "I´ve never been in and out from a visit faster." These days,

The Increasing Desperation of Democrats
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National Review Online, by John Fund    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/21/2014 5:19:02 AM     Post Reply
Harry Reid isn’t backing down from his claim that rancher Cliven Bundy’s supporters are “domestic terrorists.” It’s astonishing rhetoric given the White House’s characterization of the mass shooting by a genuine terrorist, Major Nidal Hasan, who killed 13 Americans at the Fort Hood Army base after yelling “Allahu Akbar!” (God is great.) Rather than labeling Hasan’s actions “domestic terrorism,” the Obama administration is prosecuting him for having committed “workplace violence.” Democratic rhetoric is become ever more desperate and overheated as we approach the November midterm elections. Last week, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said that GOP positions on immigration were motivated by


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