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Five myths about Jesus
Washington Post, by Reza Aslan

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Posted By:jackson, 9/30/2013 9:05:35 AM

Perhaps no historical figure is more deeply mired in legend and myth than Jesus of Nazareth. Outside of the Gospels — which are not so much factual accounts of Jesus but arguments about His religious significance — there is almost no trace of this simple Galilean peasant who inspired the world’s largest religion. But there’s enough biblical scholarship about the historical Jesus to raise questions about some of the myths that have formed around Him over the past 2,000 years. 1. Jesus was born in Bethlehem. The first Christians seem to have had little interest in Jesus’s early years. Stories about His

Gosh Washington Post! Jesus wasn´t born in Bethlehem? Thanks sooo much for clearing that up. I guess "birthers" exist on the left too. Hogwash!


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Reply 1 - Posted by: dudette4freedom, 9/30/2013 9:13:03 AM     (No. 9543024)

is this the muslim guy who has a book about this and got softball iinterviews everywhere but FOX?

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Reply 2 - Posted by: abuela10, 9/30/2013 9:13:17 AM     (No. 9543025)

I have a funny feeling, author is not a Christian

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Reply 3 - Posted by: TunnelRat, 9/30/2013 9:14:26 AM     (No. 9543028)

A few good points and a number of poor ones: a newspaper is hardly the place to carry this discussion.

I predict really unpleasant comments all around...

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Reply 4 - Posted by: BarryNo, 9/30/2013 9:21:07 AM     (No. 9543034)

Perhaps no historical figure is more deeply mired in legend and myth than Jesus of Nazareth. Outside of the Gospels thousands of theological enemies have attempted to add to his legend in order to create straw man arguments to attack him. No other religious figure has engendered such extreme reactions.

Nor has any other religion so profoundly changed the world.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: ruready?, 9/30/2013 9:21:08 AM     (No. 9543035)

Five myths about the media

1) they believe God exists
2) they believe Israel is a chosen people
3) they believe Jesus is the Son of God
4) they believe the Bible is true
5) they believe our nation was founded on Judeo-Christian principles

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Attila DiMedici, 9/30/2013 9:24:03 AM     (No. 9543038)

The author of this article is the Muslim author of a controversial book about Jesus. His argument against Jesus being born in Bethlehem is weak. It is based on the fact that none of Paul´s writings nor the Gospel of Mark include mention of Jesus´ birth place. Since none of Paul´s letters talked about ANY aspect of Jesus´ life besides His death and resurrection, that they failed to mention His place of birth is not surprising. Considering Luke´s attention to detail in other places, it is unlikely that his account of Jesus´ birth is made up out of whole cloth. Further, the idea of connecting the census mentioned by Luke to the one in AD 6 is based on the assumption that Quirinius was not governor of Syria when the previous one was taken. Recent findings have indicated that there were two occasions when Quirinius was governor of Syria (or at least the dominant political figure). I will just mention that there was a relatively recent finding of a man who had been crucified who was buried in a tomb and still had a nail in his heel. I could go on, but this guy has an agenda to push (Islam) and is willing to distort facts that interfere with that agenda.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: bamapreacher, 9/30/2013 9:25:01 AM     (No. 9543042)

The last two "myths" are the worst. Jesus wasn´t "tried" before Pilate, Pilate simply had to hand down the sentence the Jewish leaders wanted. He hated Jews, but nevertheless knew that he wasn´t there to conquer and already conquered people. His job was to merely keep the peace, so he cooperated with the Jews when it suited them both. As for the tomb, Joseph of Arimathea, as a rich man, not only would have a tomb in the rock like other rich people of the day, but also would have had influence with Pilate, who again had no need to antagonize all the Jews. Pilate was cruel but he wasn´t stupid, unlike this author.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Bubbasuncle, 9/30/2013 9:25:35 AM     (No. 9543044)

As I read this article, I kept thinking "What is the point." The author offers not definitive proof and draws no conclusion. The the first comment I read after the article made it all clear, at least to me:

"One thing we know about Jesus: He believed in helping the poor, feeding the masses, and free healthcare for all. Republicans who claim to be Christians should take note."

I really don´t recall Jesus calling for "free healthcare for all" unless I was absent that day. Just more WAPO propaganda for the regime to help re-enforce that all Republicans are evil.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Sunhan65, 9/30/2013 9:27:16 AM     (No. 9543047)

Motivations matter in those who claim to speak for history, as does consistency. Aslan is a former evangelical Christian who converted back to Islam in college. I would be interested to see his article on Five myths about Mohammed. So, I suspect, would his co-religionists.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Freeloader, 9/30/2013 9:29:29 AM     (No. 9543048)

Memo To: Reza Aslan, The Washington Post

From: The Book Of John 3:16

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life."

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Avogadra, 9/30/2013 9:32:51 AM     (No. 9543051)

Despite the Catholic doctrine of His mother Mary’s perpetual virginity, we can be certain that the historical Jesus came from a large family with at least four brothers who are named in the Gospels — James, Joseph, Simon and Judas — and an unknown number of sisters.

News flash. Not all Christians belong to the Roman Catholic church. Some of us are called "Protestants" and we have no problem with accepting the fact that Jesus had four brothers, at least two of whom were leaders of the early church and who wrote the New Testament books that bear their names, James and Jude.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Sanspeur, 9/30/2013 9:34:31 AM     (No. 9543053)

#9 it would be a very short book .. Done before the fatwa found him . What is very intriguing is the number of assaults lying Islam is doing upon the very foundations of American exceptional ism . It´s very existence is being undermined from evey imaginable side from within and without. How many pieces of silver for this sophistry ?

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Gretchen, 9/30/2013 9:34:49 AM     (No. 9543055)

Another garden variety anti-Christian attack, simply designed to upset Christians and encourage the enemies of Christianity.

So predictable.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: wyowumin, 9/30/2013 9:35:57 AM     (No. 9543058)

All I will add to the excellent rebuttal of #6 is that Reza Aslan is a Muslim with phony credentials who is no scholar and definitely cannot be trusted with anything remotely resembling truth in regards to Jesus, Christianity or anything else, for that matter.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: shamus, 9/30/2013 9:37:19 AM     (No. 9543060)

Pilate was a creature of the Romans, while the activities of Jesus were mainly a problem for the Jewish leadership. The trial may have simply been a meeting where Jewish leaders asked Pilate to crucify Jesus. There is a reference to Pilate allowing a crowd to decide whether Jesus or Barabas should be let free in honor of the Passover. Pilate probably had no strong preference about the fate of Jesus.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: kahunavol, 9/30/2013 9:52:34 AM     (No. 9543082)

The sad thing is that there is nothing particularly new in this article. It is nothing more than rehashed "Jesus Seminar" babble. Where were the similar scholarly writers at the time the New Testament was being written and widely accepted as Gospels in Jerusalem and environs. The de-bunking didn´t really find traction for a couple thousand years after the fact. Isalm, on the other hand...

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Reply 17 - Posted by: philsner, 9/30/2013 9:52:40 AM     (No. 9543083)

Newspaper lede you will never see:

"Five myths about Muhammad".


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Reply 18 - Posted by: GoDeacs79, 9/30/2013 9:54:42 AM     (No. 9543086)

Come on, #8 - Jesus never charged any of those blind men, lame or lepers a dime. He may have gotten a meal from Mary and Martha when He brought Lazarus back to life, though.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Rinktum, 9/30/2013 9:59:20 AM     (No. 9543094)

Oh dear, where to start. Guess all I have to say as a Christian is the day I get religious instruction from a MUSLIM is the day I grow a second head and additional thumb. Notwithstanding all the arguments that could be made against this nutcase´s suppositions, let me point out that Jesus Christ preached that we all should love our neighbor as we do ourselves which is in direct opposition to Mohammed´s instructions to kill the infidels. Might I also point out that Jesus suffered death on the cross and rose again to save us from sin. Compare that to Mohammed´s great sacrifice of taking a child as his bride and defiling her at the ripe old age of 9 years. I think I am going to stick with Jesus.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 9/30/2013 9:59:30 AM     (No. 9543095)

Controversial subject of subjective subject. Anyone who has studied the actual history of the Jesus era, can not come away with absolute belief in the Biblical Jesus. In fact, the one single conclusion a valid historian comes away with is that Jesus, Johnny Appleseed and Poor Richard are pretty much the same types. I deeply studied the bible and the history for half of my life and had to come to the conclusion Jesus the man was really James. James was a Jewish leader in rebellion. James and his little group were in rebellion against the outlandish quagmire of Roman/Herodian Judaism. They were basically Zealots in hiding working from within the community in a peaceful manner to reform their religion and they hit on the Messianic prophesies to lever faithful Jews away from the corrupt Herodian system that rearranged Jewish laws to allow them to co-exist peacefully and profitably with the Roman Masters. The actual history and there is plenty of it, is much more interesting and believable.

That said- I still believe in the spirit and miracle of Jesus Christ. It is not the man or the myth that´s important. It is the amazingly enlightened words of wisdom that come from that earliest version of a "Poor Richard´s Almanac"

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Reply 21 - Posted by: SoCalGal, 9/30/2013 10:16:34 AM     (No. 9543119)

About Reza Aslan, from Ross Douthat who thinks he wrote "a bad book":

Since I wrote about the latest “real Jesus” bestseller two weeks ago, its author, Reza Aslan, has taken a fairly comprehensive beating in a variety of outlets. The Washington Post ran a skeptical piece about Aslan’s tendency to overemphasize his academic credentials even when he isn’t being cross-examined on Fox News, and his interpretation of Jesus’s life has been treated dismissively by a wide range of informed reviewers, from The Nation to The Jewish Review of Books. The consensus in these pieces is that Aslan’s book makes a hash of more careful scholarship on its way to preordained conclusions, and that his portrait of Jesus as a political revolutionary is just another predictable example of the way that the Nazarene’s contemporary biographers almost aways produce (as The Nation’s reviewer puts it) “theological Rorschach tests that tell us far more about those who create them than about the elusive historical Jesus.”

More here:

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Reply 22 - Posted by: mitzi, 9/30/2013 10:22:02 AM     (No. 9543127)

Too bad we can´t post reviews and comments about Reza Aslan and his book that appear on Catholic blogs.

Aslan has more in common with Dan Brown than with scripture scholars.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Emerson, 9/30/2013 10:27:28 AM     (No. 9543133)

He is apparently one who needs to "embellish" his academic history to bolster his credibility. Not a good idea. Some hasten to create cover for him, but it still makes him sound like a bit of a faker. He is producing pop religion. It doesn´t bear too much scrutiny. Neither does he.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: notlongforhere, 9/30/2013 10:27:37 AM     (No. 9543134)

Here is a link to the poem ´One solitary life´


Christianity is about a relationship with a risen savior. Jesus has had more impact on mankind for good then any other person.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Emerson, 9/30/2013 10:30:11 AM     (No. 9543139)

Re his own religion, he was a Muslim, then became an Evangelical Christian when he was 15, returning to being a Muslim before he went to Harvard. So he´s a Muslim. Though somewhere in that history he was an apostate, right? Or did he sort of hover between both religions?

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Reply 26 - Posted by: abuela10, 9/30/2013 10:36:30 AM     (No. 9543149)

As for that Catholic passage, it should be noted that in the Middle East,cousins are usually referred to as brothers. I learned that from my Muslim neighbors when the children called their cousins brothers. Also if Jesus had brethren why weren´t any there at his crucifixion and why did Jesus hand Mary over to John. Remember before the gospels were written, the Christians had witnesses and tradition to form the Church

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Reply 27 - Posted by: fritzilou, 9/30/2013 10:47:30 AM     (No. 9543162)

This writer has been ddebunked; why is the Post printing his article? Oh yeah, they hate religion too.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: PAdiva, 9/30/2013 10:52:41 AM     (No. 9543170)

The Truth is true even if you don´t believe it.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: GoDeacs79, 9/30/2013 10:55:47 AM     (No. 9543173)

#26 your answer may be found in Mark 6:1-6.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: tank, 9/30/2013 10:58:28 AM     (No. 9543178)

It´s also a little known fact that Jesus had webbed feet. You can look it up.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: Chuzzles, 9/30/2013 11:02:17 AM     (No. 9543185)

With all respect #20, if you believe all that, you have not ´deeply studied´ the Bible. If you had, you would not be believing what you do.

The greatest filter you can have in regards to those so-called scholars is the Bible. God says what He means #20. He does not mince words with anyone.

What ever you do #20, do not rely on those mortal men for your truths. Take another read at Job, or even Saul to find out what God thought about them seeking knowledge from other men instead of from Him.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: mustang flyer, 9/30/2013 11:06:47 AM     (No. 9543194)

This mainstream media bum calls Jesus a ´peasant´...He was born in a tiny town the same as nearly everyone in the region. I guess that means a town of peasants...I would love to hear his description of his fellow Arabs who dwell in tents, live with goats, sheep and camels with no indoor or outdoor plumbing...May the fleas of a thousand camels infest his crotch!

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Reply 33 - Posted by: kdog, 9/30/2013 11:08:09 AM     (No. 9543199)

Jesus is only controversial to the people who do not believe in Him, and what do they care if someone else decides they DO believe in Him? Is it hurting anyone? The controversy lies in the fact people who militantly don´t believe in Him don´t want anyone else to believe in Him either. Isn´t there anything better they can do with their time than to fret over what my beliefs are?

Incidentally, I know an article titled "5 Myths About the World´s Peace Religion" would be chastised and ridiculed as "Hate Speech" sparking riots around certain parts of the world.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: JoElla Bee, 9/30/2013 11:10:43 AM     (No. 9543203)

Myth and the Claims of the Bible Writers
by Kyle Butt, M.A.


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Reply 35 - Posted by: killerbee, 9/30/2013 11:11:13 AM     (No. 9543207)

The comments following the article are refreshingly intelligent and mostly present multiple rebuttals.

Aslan´s scholarship has been called into question a number of times, and not just because he has misrepresented his credentials in respect to this book, but because it´s not good work. He´s the Howard Zinn of amateur theologists. And, yes, as a theologist, he is indeed an amateur.

Take a look at some of the comments, they have good recommendations for more sturdy scholarly works about Jesus.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: Sunhan65, 9/30/2013 11:12:22 AM     (No. 9543209)

Aslan is lion.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: bugboy, 9/30/2013 11:13:05 AM     (No. 9543213)

Let me just quote Paul: For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith for faith, as it is written, “The righteous shall live by faith.”

And Jesus: But the testimony that I have is greater than that of John. For the works that the Father has given me to accomplish, the very works that I am doing, bear witness about me that the Father has sent me. And the Father who sent me has himself borne witness about me. His voice you have never heard, his form you have never seen, and you do not have his word abiding in you, for you do not believe the one whom he has sent. You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness about me, yet you refuse to come to me that you may have life.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: artman1746, 9/30/2013 11:13:24 AM     (No. 9543214)

This same WP will take a Hillary Clinton story and accept it hook, line and sinker. Likewise anything Muslims claim is to be accepted and respected. But Jesus Christ and Christian theology? That must be attacked and disproved!

Look WP, Christianity makes no demands on you as unbelievers. And it warns that the wise will be made fools. Don´t want to believe it? OK, fine. But just why do unbelievers make it their life´s duty to challenge Christianity? Seems like I read something in scripture that claims there is an evil force on the earth that constantly fights against good. Hmmmmmmmm.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: badrad, 9/30/2013 11:15:58 AM     (No. 9543218)

Re post # 20, that is kind of how I feel aboout Santa Claus and his part of Christmas.

The Jesus part would be hard for me to give up because of the religious tradition that all mankind are born with the light of Christ. To lose that light being equal to spiritual death. Not something to be taken casually but He walks with us even when we don´t know it is He holding us up.

Glad the thought of Him, His grace and mercy have not been completely extinguished in all of we mortals. Clinging to the Spirit? Not dead yet.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: canuckchopper, 9/30/2013 11:19:47 AM     (No. 9543225)

For an interesting (and very long) read - google ´Jakob Lorber´ and ´The Great Gospel of Johh´, ´The Childhood of jesus´ and ´The Three days in the Temple´.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: kono, 9/30/2013 11:22:48 AM     (No. 9543233)

Logic (or, as in this case, rationalizing) is just as fallacious a method for disproving the Gospels as it is for proving them.

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Reply 42 - Posted by: David Key, 9/30/2013 11:23:49 AM     (No. 9543234)

1. It is ridiculous to say that the people who lived with Jesus didn´t know his story. Particularly since John was given responsibility for Mary, Jesus mother. The Gospels were produced by different men for different reasons. Those accounts incorporated various remembered stories and accounts of historical events within the life of Jesus. They were produced by people intimately involved with the life of Jesus with the time period that included many believers and unbelievers who also knew the man Jesus. Anything false would have been loudly and quickly countered by the many enemies who feared and hated the man and the movement.
2. Virtually every Protestant movement has held that Jesus had siblings. His siblings came to get him because they thought he had gone off the deep end, when told that they were outside the house he was in he asked the question, "Who are my brother and my sisters" and answered it with not a rejection of his own sibs but with and expansion from blood to universal inclusion.
3. What myth, nobody I know says Jesus only had 12 Disciples. 4.The trial was before the Sanhedrin the Jewish assembly or council made up of the religious and political leadership(note that the entire trial from start to finish was contrary to Jewish law). It was the Sanhedrin that illegally convicted Jesus to death by Crucifixion-a roman for of execution. The death penalty required approval by the Roman ruler, no trial by Pilate was necessary, approval was necessary. Pilate for political reasons, in spite of his apparently finding Jesus innocent of any capital crime, approved the execution to placate the Jewish leaders.
5. The NT says that one of the Sanhedrin Joseph of Arimathia, went quietly and asked for the body, it was placed in a new grave.

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Reply 43 - Posted by: msjena, 9/30/2013 11:24:07 AM     (No. 9543235)

Has this author even read the Gospels? Here is a quick rebuttal:
1. Luke was a gentile. He wrote for the gentiles, not the Jews. He had no reason to try to show that Jesus fufilled any Hebrew Bible prophecies about the Messiah´s birthplace--if he even knew about them.
2. I don´t know if Catholics believe Jesus was an only child (biologically, at least), but Protestants don´t. It is well-accepted that James is Jesus´s brother. There are other references to Jesus´s siblings in the Gospels.
3.Why the hair-splitting over disciples/apostles. They were disciples while Jesus was alive and on earth, and apostles after he was gone.
4. Where is the evidence regarding Pilate? It is all just supposition that Pilate would not have presided over Jesus´s fate. I will take the contemporaneous written reports as better evidence than someone´s assumptions over 2,000 years later.
5. The reason Jesus was laid in a tomb was because his body was claimed by a rich man, Joseph of Aremethia. Did the author even notice this?

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Reply 44 - Posted by: JimS, 9/30/2013 11:35:43 AM     (No. 9543256)

So, Reza Aslan, an Iranian-American muslim (who converted to Christianity for a few years, but returned to islam) feels qualified to challenge some of the basic tenets of Christianity--that Jesus was an only child, that Jesus was born in Bethlehem, that the Blessed Mother was a virgin? And the WacomPost sees fit to publish this trash?
Tell me, when do we see the articles debunking the "prophet" and pedophile Mohammed? Personally, I like that story about Mohammed going to heaven on a flying horse and returning all in one night. Almost as good as Arabian Nights story.

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Reply 45 - Posted by: logiclogger, 9/30/2013 11:37:09 AM     (No. 9543258)

For a mythical man, he sure has incredible power to completely change a person who never met or accepted him previously. Road to Damascus events just don´t occur through osmosis.

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Reply 46 - Posted by: 4poster, 9/30/2013 11:42:02 AM     (No. 9543267)

Thanks all. Now I see why this is in the Opinions section.

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Reply 47 - Posted by: tennisbum, 9/30/2013 11:48:09 AM     (No. 9543276)

One of the greatest myths perpetuated by muslims is that Islam is a religion of peace!!! Now if you don´t accept that Islam is a religion of peace, I´ll cut your head off!!

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Reply 48 - Posted by: Udanja99, 9/30/2013 12:11:16 PM     (No. 9543307)

Jesus taught that we should care for each other, not that the government should do it by stealing from those of us who are productive. Didn´t Paul day to the Thessalonians, "If you don´t work, you don´t eat"?

Free healthcare, Reza?

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Reply 49 - Posted by: hot coffee, 9/30/2013 12:24:35 PM     (No. 9543323)

Jesus is mired in almost as much myth and legend as the author´s lord and savior, Barack Obama.

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Reply 50 - Posted by: marthaville, 9/30/2013 12:36:41 PM     (No. 9543338)

Aslan is a Muslim and tells lies about Jesus. All Muslims lie about who Jesus is.

Aslan can spread his lies, whether attempting to sell his book. We know he lied about his own academic credentials. He turned his back on Jesus when he returned to Islam.

Islam is an illegitimate religion created by a crazed man named Mohammed. His claim to be a prophet of God is false. He is no more a prophet of God than than is Aslan.

These are/were evil men following Satan in their attempts to discredit the one true God. It did not work when Mohammed was alive and it will not work today.

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Reply 51 - Posted by: shamus, 9/30/2013 12:49:20 PM     (No. 9543356)

Evidence of events that happened 2000 years ago is pretty scarce, and what is available is subject to interpretation. People who have studied the Roman empire are probably best situated to make a reasonable guess as to the history of Judea in the first century, but they certainly would make assumptions.

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Reply 52 - Posted by: Screwgun, 9/30/2013 3:18:26 PM     (No. 9543557)

Glenn Beck skewers this author thoroughly:


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Reply 53 - Posted by: Question_Assumptions, 9/30/2013 3:25:02 PM     (No. 9543566)

Point 3 is nit-picking on terminology in a way that´s just silly. Points 1, 2, 4, and 5 are all based the logical fallacies that an absence of evidence of evidence of an absence and that if something is unlikely, then it´s untrue. None of those arguments prove that the conventional understanding being questioned is untrue. Even though I´m sympathetic to point 2 and agree with it, for example, I also know that the Orthodox, in particular, have a very detailed tradition about the marriage of Mary and Joseph which is not impossible and could possibly be true. Similarly, while there are planety of reasons to question the parts about Jesus´ early life as implausible, there is no evidence that actually contracts it and some reasons beyond the Bible to find it plausible.

Finally, with points 4 and 5 (the bits of the Gospel that a Muslim or other non-Chistian would have the most interest in undermining), the Bible story suggests a fairly complex game was being played between Pilate, Herod, and the chief priests with the latter looking to have the former doing the dirty work to get rid of a problem for the latter, and with Pilate playing games with them. Pilate wasn´t trying to make an example of Jesus as an enemy of Rome. He was trying to annoy the Jewish leadersihp who insisted Pilate kill him for them. All of that makes both 4 and 5 make perfect sense.

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Reply 54 - Posted by: mitzi, 9/30/2013 6:26:47 PM     (No. 9543774)

Msgr. Charles Pope from the Archdiocese of Washington posted a refutation of the WaPo article. It´s 3-1/2 pages, with about 8 pages of comment.

Title is: The Gospels are Reliable – A Refutation of a Recent Errors About Jesus Published in the Washington Post.

Near the end, Msgr. Pope asks We end where we began: the need for seculars and other non-Christians (I think Mr Aslan is Muslim) to debunk and try to disarm Christ and his Church. Why this need? Why do they seem to fear the untamed Jesus of Scripture?

See his answer on their website.

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Reply 55 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 9/30/2013 11:35:44 PM     (No. 9544088)

It appears Reza seeks the new age group with no religious faith. As for me, I don´t need to read the words of a Muzlim, I am good with my faith.

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Reply 56 - Posted by: rc1776, 10/1/2013 11:39:12 AM     (No. 9544723)

I would have thought this m*&^^-ie would have started with Cain or Hagar.
Ishmael was the result of Sarah´s doubting God´s promise of a son. Perhaps his descendants are a punishment for her doubt.
These "descendants" seem to be the main cause of our woes.
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Reply 57 - Posted by: kono, 10/1/2013 3:06:34 PM     (No. 9545056)

Often-used (and misused) line, #49. That letter instructed people who would not work that they should not eat. Nowhere does it say, "Those who will not work you should not feed." The single instruction for that is for us to share some of our food with those who have none, not to try to figure out whether they deserve to be hungry or not. Only God has the ability and authority to judge who deserves what. We´re called to love, give, and forgive without hesitation or grumbling and leave the rest to God.

That said, where in the Bible are people given the right to confiscate what belongs to another, even with the noble hope of redistributing them in a way we might perceive as ´fairer´?

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Reply 58 - Posted by: dst4life, 10/2/2013 7:58:51 AM     (No. 9545930)

As a Catholic, my understanding of the use of the word "brother" in the Gospels is that in Aramaic--and the fact that the Jewish people had close tribal living--there is no word for "cousin."

Secondly, "Jesus the Christ" and His followers are mentioned in the writings of the Jewish historian Josephus. The imprisonment of John the Baptist is also mentioned in the writings of Josephus.


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