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Sen. Manchin bucks Dems to back
ObamaCare delay -- then walks
back remark

Fox News, by Staff

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Posted By:JoniTx, 9/26/2013 6:53:43 PM

Democrats may have just lost one of their own in the high-stakes fight over ObamaCare -- or maybe not. Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., a moderate Democrat known at times to buck his party, said Thursday that he´d be willing to support a spending bill that also delays the law´s requirement on individuals to buy health insurance. "There´s no way I could not vote for it," Manchin said. "It´s very reasonable and sensible." Manchin made the comment at a Bloomberg Government breakfast. The comment, first reported by Bloomberg, was later confirmed by Fox News. But hours later, the senator put out a statement

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Bubbasuncle, 9/26/2013 6:57:11 PM     (No. 9538491)

As predicted by one of our members! Seems the horse head didn´t wait until morning to appear.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: faldo, 9/26/2013 7:45:14 PM     (No. 9538545)

Hey Joe, "...very reasonable and sensible" is not found in the Alinsky playbook.

You´re in over your head, and probably too nice a guy to be hanging around these DC types.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: antiquegolf, 9/26/2013 7:45:42 PM     (No. 9538547)

manchin is not a moderate. He is a liberal democrat. manchin´s fake advocacy for the coal industry makes him a contender for the most intellectually dishonest critter in the senate.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: ocjim, 9/26/2013 7:49:40 PM     (No. 9538552)

He was Booker´ed quickly and sternly, no doubt about it. Sorry West Virginia, your Sen Manchin is owned by the White House, utterly and completely. Keep on votin´ for Dems who carry guns and shoot at trees to be melodramatic, and TALK a good game and see where it gets you. Ultimately, he´s a Donk, like any other Donk. So, how dumb are ya? And BTW, extremely lucky for you all that coal is a viable export product, or you´d be completely sunk now by this environmentally ill regime.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: WV.Hillbilly, 9/26/2013 7:52:43 PM     (No. 9538554)

You can always count on Joe being on both sides of every issue.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: gator, 9/26/2013 8:01:40 PM     (No. 9538566)

Th only reason this slug gets elected in WV is the because so many still believe the in old days when it was said that D´s are for the poor and the R´s are for the rich. Old ignorance dies hard and back woods slicks like Manchin know it and ride it to bank.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Garage Logician, 9/26/2013 8:18:22 PM     (No. 9538583)

Show of hands - how many of you think Obama will sign the bill outlawing Obamacare that the Senate will never pass?

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Gr8Shiphandler, 9/26/2013 8:25:42 PM     (No. 9538588)

The fact that Joe is a retired Admiral tells you why our politically correct military is in such trouble. Pathetic Coward.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: zzzghy, 9/26/2013 8:27:12 PM     (No. 9538591)

He was for it before he was against it.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: BaseballFan, 9/26/2013 9:10:02 PM     (No. 9538632)

Moderate Democrat = one who makes a Freudian slip, but quickly recovers while scurrying quickly back to the Left with his tail between his legs.

"Moderate Democrat" is a contradiction in terms. An oxymoron. With emphasis on the moron.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: secondtimelucky, 9/26/2013 10:08:51 PM     (No. 9538702)

someone must have reminded him of incriminating pictures...

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Reply 12 - Posted by: cThree, 9/26/2013 10:26:54 PM     (No. 9538716)

Sen. Munchkin is not going to stand up to anyone. He´s a Democrat. Kiss coal good-bye, embrace Obamacare, say hello to everlasting poverty, West Virginia. You elected him.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: WV.Hillbilly, 9/26/2013 11:39:38 PM     (No. 9538792)

#8
Joe was not any kind of Admiral. Retired or otherwise.
The closest he came to an Admiral was a TV set that was being sold at the family furniture store.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Trigger2, 9/27/2013 6:31:04 AM     (No. 9538978)

Walk backs always happen now courtesy of NSA spying tips to the DNC. I wonder, do NSA performance evaluations now depend on how many phone conversations, e-mails, faxes, etc. are leaked to the DNC? The higher the number, the higher the bonus?

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Reply 15 - Posted by: M2, 9/27/2013 7:29:34 AM     (No. 9539041)

If it is true that someone got to Manchin and that Manchin wimped out, that is exactly what epitomizes Washington pols -- spinelessness. Threaten them when they vote or speak their consciences and they fold like a cheap suit.

Cruz was trying to tell Americans and Washington that Congresspeople are supposed to do the will of the people, not the Party.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: rplat, 9/27/2013 7:48:24 AM     (No. 9539064)

Don´t get too excited, Dems are wusses and will always walk-back any criticism of their messiah or his policies.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Janjan, 9/27/2013 7:54:49 AM     (No. 9539075)

I wonder if Manchin was surprised when he first landed in Washington and was told that he and his West Virginia constituents opinions were irrelevant and he was there to be neutered into the Party Machine. This could explain some of the obvious substance abuse issues in Congress.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: PeoplesRepublikNY, 9/27/2013 9:16:49 AM     (No. 9539213)

#8, I think you´re confusing Joe Manchin (from WV) w/ Joe Sestak (from PA). Manchin didn´t serve in the military. Sestak, who ran against Pat Toomey a few years back, is a retired Navy Admiral.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Jebediah, 9/27/2013 9:18:44 AM     (No. 9539215)

And don´t forget that Joe Manchin, in a state where coal mining is being DESTROYED by Obama, also voted FOR Obamacare and still likes it.......not so much that he is willing to be covered by it himself but......... Why on earth was he elected?

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Reply 20 - Posted by: federale, 9/27/2013 9:45:02 AM     (No. 9539279)

Senator Manchin should remember what happened to Leon Trotsky when he bucked the party elites.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: maryc, 9/27/2013 9:51:03 AM     (No. 9539290)

Not much. What WV is getting in the way of help from their Senator. A waste of money is all that he is for them.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: MirJoy, 9/27/2013 9:54:34 AM     (No. 9539296)

It´s uncommon for progressives to say something and then walk it back.

Yesterday, I heard Rush call ObamaCare a bait and switch plan, and today I read someone use the same expression. All kinds of things were promised that have been walked back: keep your plan - you can´t afford your plan; your kids can stay on until age 26 - your company is cancelling their family plan; keep your doctor - your doctor can´t afford to keep practicing. Anyway, poorly written, but everyone should be told it´s a bait and switch plan when Reid or others tell us it is the law of the land.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: MirJoy, 9/27/2013 10:00:57 AM     (No. 9539311)

Whoops ... said it was poorly written.

Meant to write it is COMMON for progressives to walk things back.

I just thought the "whole bait and switch" idea was so "on the money" that I just wanted to repeat it.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: msjena, 9/27/2013 10:22:04 AM     (No. 9539341)

#22--I know someone who was invited to one of those pre-election get-togethers trying to drum up contributions for Obama. The campaign worker candidly said that Obama´s health care plan was just a first step towards single-payer. They know it is going to wreck the insurance industry and force employers to stop offering coverage. The government will then step in to "fix" the problem.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: owl, 9/27/2013 10:23:10 AM     (No. 9539344)

Who cares about some Dim, we should be talking about what Boner is doing and perhaps another one of his botched opportunties. We have a chance to turn the heat on high regarding next years election. Obamacaresless will be on everyones mind if implemented now. Wait a year, and it falls off the talking points map. The GOPhers aren´t called the stooopid party for nothing.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: bigfatslob, 9/27/2013 11:10:49 AM     (No. 9539427)

Manchin is not a moderate democrat. This is no such thing as a moderated democrat he might be a democrat but didn´t become a communist yet. That´s about all and this WV turkey Joe Manchin had an attack of mental integrity for a second then caught himself.
What´s a ´walk back´? Is that some liberal speak for "I lied and didn´t mean it"? I´m sick of these leftist communist liars.


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Reply 27 - Posted by: larryp, 9/27/2013 12:53:18 PM     (No. 9539584)

Interesting that there is a lot of similarity between a moderate Palestinian, a moderate Muslim and a moderate democrat.
For one thing they don´t exist.fo another they all lie and then correct or walk-back the next day.
and recall that legislator that would not vote for ObamNoCare if it contained funding for abortion. Finally he walked-it-back when Obama wrote out some letter and then later ignored the entire thing. But obama got the vote on crap-care.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: peterfleming, 9/27/2013 1:52:55 PM     (No. 9539685)

It´s tough realizing an admiral is a damn socialist, and promoting the Abortive Care
Mis-Act.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: subguru, 9/27/2013 9:05:10 PM     (No. 9540267)

There are a lot of people planning on this stuff for serious health reasons. They´ll be roasted if they delay it. It´s going to be a headache no matter when it begins. They may as well implement now and the eternal process fixing it.

(And yes, I do think it´s wrong that in today´s economy you can work a full time job and be paid so little that you can´t afford health care.)

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Reply 30 - Posted by: altoona, 9/27/2013 9:47:12 PM     (No. 9540297)

Manchin is an admiral of sorts since someone provided him with a yacht upon which to host gun control parties for fellow legislators, such as Pat Toomey.
And Sestak, the retired Admiral, Friend of Bill, and once and future candidate for office in PA, makes Manchin look like Barry Goldwater.


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Reply 31 - Posted by: StuartL, 9/27/2013 10:00:54 PM     (No. 9540309)

#30 -- It´s not that you´re paid so little. It´s that medical services cost so much.

Case in point, from some recent research by members of the L clan: What the local regional hospital pays the manufacturer for an Oxford patellar prosthesis (replacement knee): $5,000. What the local regional hospital charges the patient -- and mind you, this is for the chunk of titanium ALONE, nothing else: $60,000. That´s a 6 followed by FOUR zeroes, or a 1200% mark-up.

Also thank the New Non-Citizens who´ve turned damned near every ER in the country into their free private sniffles-and-scuffs clinic, and the ambulance-chasing shysters for the crushing med-mal insurance rates that have helped make them rich (and ensured their unflagging support of the U.S. Communist Party).

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Reply 32 - Posted by: BetseyRoss, 9/27/2013 10:03:10 PM     (No. 9540311)

Joe Manchin is a snake. What happened was to be expected. WV is so convoluted. They will vote for a Republican for President, but lose their minds over Democrats for other offices. So strange.

Manchin was elected because of gun control. He was against it in the election, then all of a sudden, after the election miraculously he was for it.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: StuartL, 9/27/2013 11:16:27 PM     (No. 9540353)

((Sorry, all -- obviously my post #31 was meant in re post #29.))

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WASHINGTON — Former President Jimmy Carter joined fellow Nobel laureates Wednesday in opposing Keystone XL, insisting that approving the pipeline would trigger “more climate upheaval” around the globe. In an open letter to President Barack Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry, Carter and the nine other Nobel Peace Prize winners bluntly warned the leaders: “Your decision on the Keystone XL tar sands pipeline will define your climate legacy.” The missive, published as an advertisement in Politico, represents the first time Carter has taken a position on the $5.4 billion project and makes him the first former president to come

Fox News Poll: Many voters say Obama lies
to the country on important matters

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Fox News, by Dana Blanton    Original Article
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About six in ten American voters think Barack Obama lies to the country on important matters some or most of the time, according to a Fox News poll released Wednesday. Thirty-seven percent think Obama lies “most of the time,” while another 24 percent say he lies “some of the time.” Twenty percent of voters say “only now and then” and 15 percent “never.” Click here for the poll results. President Obama has been accused by political opponents and media fact-checkers alike of telling falsehoods. Frequently cited: His repeated claim that under Obamacare “If you like your plan, you can keep

Pelosi assists in Holy Week
foot-washing ritual

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San Francisco Chronicle, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: Harlowe- 4/18/2014 11:46:54 AM     Post Reply
To "honor the dignity and work of immigrants," Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi helps Bishop Marc Andrus wash the feet of two children Thursday at Saint John the Evangelist Episcopal Church in San Francisco. Pelosi also used the occasion to talk about passing HR15 - bipartisan immigration legislation that her office says would "reduce the deficit by nearly $1 trillion, secure our borders, unite our families, protect our workers and provide an earned pathway to citizenship." The Democratic leader´s ceremony coincides with Pope Francis´ similar ceremony in Rome to mark Holy Week.

Every Media Outlet: Hillary
Grandkid the Most Consequential
Baby Since Jesus

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Mediaite, by Tina Nguyen    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/18/2014 10:34:40 AM     Post Reply
Less than 16 hours after Chelsea Clinton announced she was pregnant, a lot of major news outlets started staring into the crystal ball of Chelsea’s womb, wondering what this currently floating zygotic multicellular being meant for the prospects of Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign, which is also a floating, zygotic, multicellular being. Their answer: The immaculately conceived Clinton child could mean everything. And no, it’s not just the fact that having a grandchild could be personally fulfilling to Hillary and Bill (mazel tov, by the way), or that a cute baby would be a sweet cherry on top of Hillary’s already


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