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American gun use is out of control.
Shouldn´t the world intervene?

Observer (U.K.), by Henry Potter

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Posted By:Desert Fox, 9/22/2013 9:10:01 AM

Last week, Starbucks asked its American customers to please not bring their guns into the coffee shop. This is part of the company´s concern about customer safety and follows a ban in the summer on smoking within 25 feet of a coffee shop entrance and an earlier ruling about scalding hot coffee. After the celebrated Liebeck v McDonald´s case in 1994, involving a woman who suffered third-degree burns to her thighs, Starbucks complies with the Specialty Coffee Association of America´s recommendation that drinks should be served at a maximum temperature of 82C. Although it was brave of Howard Schultz, the company´s


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Reply 1 - Posted by: goose, 9/22/2013 9:13:50 AM     (No. 9531546)

American gun use? Nairobi mall, anyone? Jackassery abounds!

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Historybuff, 9/22/2013 9:17:27 AM     (No. 9531547)

From the UK? The nation that had to borrow weapons from us during the last world war?

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Attercliffe, 9/22/2013 9:18:55 AM     (No. 9531550)

This newspaper is the Guardian´s Sunday sister and is just as left-wing. Its circulation is 216,000.

In comparison, the Sunday Telegraph (sister to the Telegraph we see here every day) enjoys a circulation of 501,379.

The Daily Mail´s sister (Mail on Sunday), attracts almost 2 million readers.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: bugboy, 9/22/2013 9:26:59 AM     (No. 9531562)

In Texas, if the CEO of Starbucks wants to keep guns out of his cafe´s then he will have to, by law, post a 30.06 sign at each entrance.

If you´ve ever seen one you can´t miss it and he tells criminals to ´come and get it´.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: chumley, 9/22/2013 9:27:13 AM     (No. 9531563)

They not only begged for and got our privately owned weapons, #2. They then destroyed them after the war rather than returning them. Hope they dont hold their breaths waiting for it to happen again.
This from the country that taxes its citizens into oblivion, kills them with socialized medicine, encourages hostile immigration, and criminalizes anyone who has anything to say about it. I have never been to a place that had such great people and such screwed up laws at the same time.
As frustrated as I am nowadays, I´m sure glad I´m here and not there.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Keekng, 9/22/2013 9:28:57 AM     (No. 9531566)

"We are told NOT to judge All Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics"....

BUT,...."We are encouraged TO judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics".

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Reply 7 - Posted by: bkt23, 9/22/2013 9:32:02 AM     (No. 9531571)

Might this not also be viewed as our own policies turned against us? We intervene in the affairs of foreign nations constantly. When some tongue-in-cheek journalist suggests the world interfere with U.S. domestic issues, we all flip out.

Got hypocrisy?

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Reply 8 - Posted by: mitzi, 9/22/2013 9:39:05 AM     (No. 9531578)

Yeah ... right after "the world" takes care of the massacre of Christians around "the world."

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Reply 9 - Posted by: maggie2u, 9/22/2013 9:46:06 AM     (No. 9531589)

There are NOT 32,000 gun deaths in the U.S. every year. The total murder rate each year is right around 15,000. Go to the Department of Justice or simply google how many murders in the U.S..Between 1999 and 2008 the low was 15,552, the high was 17,030. Mind you that is for ALL murders, not just murders by guns. And this is down from a high of 20,710 set in 1974. And our population has grown, what, about 100 million since then? More lies from the gun grabbers. Check the figures for yourself mainly so that you can discuss this with friends and relatives who believe what the corrupt media tell them.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Bohallx, 9/22/2013 9:50:00 AM     (No. 9531595)

#7, hypocrisy is of interest only to the guy who thinks he sees it.

Otherwise it´s a hypothetical used by leftwingtards to seek laws to punish the innocent, and by Moslems to commit private murder ~ Mohammad said "kill the hypocrites"

So, actually, there´s not anything to that in this piece once you disaggregate the propaganda element. That starts with the writer´s gloss over the fact that modern Europeans (includes UKians) have a good 35 million to 60 million deaths by firearm to account for, and if we start with Jeanne d´Arc and move forward to Joe Stalin, probably well over 100 million deaths by firearm.

Ain´t no way we can catch up with that record!

Notice how deftly I disarmed the assailant. He´s but a punk in the world of letters as well as the world of guns.

He should study up and become forearmed to the assault that will inevitably ensue when you attack us.

OH, BTW, before forgetting it, the first three amendments have to do more with French history than with British history. The text was prepared by the sons, grandsons and great grandsons of Huguenots who survived the Religious Wars and Louis XIV. Real historians know the facts ~ the English filter tends to hide them from the eyes of non historians.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: figowitz, 9/22/2013 9:56:02 AM     (No. 9531600)

Not a ´gun´ problem. It´s rotten, soulless ´people´ problem.

Yeah, world. Help us out. Come take these horrible people out of my America. Thanks.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Balogreene, 9/22/2013 10:00:36 AM     (No. 9531606)

#9, thank you. I quickly looked for gun death toll and couldn´t get an easy answer. But even adding suicides and accidents you couldn´t come up with 32,000.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: lil dotty, 9/22/2013 10:00:51 AM     (No. 9531607)

# 6
Good point.

Will remember it for future use.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 9/22/2013 10:05:30 AM     (No. 9531609)

Article is full of lies.

But hey, come on down to Texas and take our guns.

Come on.

What you waitin´ for ?

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Reply 15 - Posted by: voxpopuli, 9/22/2013 10:12:53 AM     (No. 9531622)

immediate death sentence to any felon with a gun - anywhere..
random checks on the South Side of Chicago and North Side of MPLS..
life imprisonment for all judges and attorneys who let these people back on the street..
that takes care of 90% of those gun deaths..

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Reply 16 - Posted by: texaspast, 9/22/2013 10:16:32 AM     (No. 9531627)

#14 is right. The Mexican government demanded the people of Gonzales surrender their one cannon. The people of Gonzales made and raised a banner with a picture of a cannon and a star, and the words ´come and take it.´ The Mexicans tried. They were unsuccessful. So, we still say - come and take them, Eurowimps.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: 2timothy1:7, 9/22/2013 10:22:30 AM     (No. 9531643)

"The other half simply doesn´t grasp the inconsistencies and historic lunacy of its position, which springs from the second amendment right to keep and bear arms, and is derived from English common law and our 1689 Bill of Rights.

We dispensed with these rights long ago"

Our murder rate has plunged in recent years--he needs to go back to the 1960´s to keep the rate high.

Interesting factoid: Americans suicide by gun (instead of other means) a lot more than Europeans. Once those are factored out, the "mayhem" described by the author drops significantly.

The "civil war" he describes is largely in anti-gun urban areas between members of a defined ethnic group. Murder in the "heartland" is quite similar to Europe.

Would he advocate entering U.S cities like Rahm´s Chicago and disarming a discrete ethnic group? That would be a better argument. Would he go to Utah to disarm Mormons just to make it fair?

It is a compelling read only at first blush.
Most of America is quite sane and rather peaceful.

Finally-the idea of holding a position when an obvious larger issue is looming is not unique to Americans. It is the foundation of the PC movement.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: papasparky, 9/22/2013 10:26:28 AM     (No. 9531654)

What´s with these Potters anyway, here´s another one who lives in a fantasy world?
Henry must be Harry´s daddy.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: MattMusson, 9/22/2013 10:30:15 AM     (No. 9531665)

Molon Labe.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Jennie C., 9/22/2013 10:52:31 AM     (No. 9531690)

As Charlton Heston said (when Smith & Wesson added trigger guards), I thought we settled the question of British control of our arms in 1776.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: metalman2, 9/22/2013 11:06:04 AM     (No. 9531711)

I think I´ll go paint an old helmet blue and then practice. Bet I can hit it at 200 yards!

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Chuzzles, 9/22/2013 11:06:08 AM     (No. 9531712)

The ironic thing about this article is the position on the homepage. It follows a disturbing string of muslim atrocities against their fellow humans in Africa and the other usual places.

Give up our guns to become like the rest of the violence plagued world? Heck no!! I suspect that the sleeper cells in this Country would just love more gun-free zones.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: drkillj0y, 9/22/2013 11:06:26 AM     (No. 9531713)

Off to a gun show...

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Reply 24 - Posted by: nevernaught, 9/22/2013 11:11:40 AM     (No. 9531723)

Really... all I am reading this morning is attacks on Christians and other innocents in foreign places like Pakistan, Kenya, Syria, Libya, and Chicago Sorry about the last one, but I don´t consider Chicago as part of this country.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: bighambone, 9/22/2013 11:13:53 AM     (No. 9531726)

He actually answered his own question. The reason that Americans maintain their Second Amendment rights is that they want to deter the world from interfering in the internal affairs of the USA, including their own personal protection from criminals and the like.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: dvc, 9/22/2013 11:15:53 AM     (No. 9531731)

Lies on top of lies. Gunshot deaths other than suicides have been steadily decreasing for the last 20 years. Gun accidents are steadily decreasing, too.

During that time, many millions of additional guns were purchased, and about 20 states have loosened their concealed carry laws so that now millions carry a gun every day. This has caused crime to DROP.

The more guns we have in America, the safer we are. Even these big-publicity public shooting rampages are rare and decreasing, even though the media lies about it. And notice that they ONLY happen in "gun free zones" - NEVER where ordinary people can be armed. There have been multiple cases of nascent mass shootings stopped by armed civilians, but this is covered up by the hoplophobic press.

Harvard recently released a study showing zero connection between gun control laws and the murder rate.



We told England what we thought of the way of suppressing rights in the 1776 Revolution, so a big "drop dead" to this idiot.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: bobn.t, 9/22/2013 11:29:39 AM     (No. 9531752)

Black violence is black violence. In Africe, the weapon of choice (by default) is the machete.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: Crashnburn, 9/22/2013 11:43:15 AM     (No. 9531775)

Virginias gun purchases were up 16% last year. In the same time frame, gun violence in the same state was down 5%. ´Nuff said

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Reply 29 - Posted by: krause, 9/22/2013 12:01:29 PM     (No. 9531799)

The fact that honest people are arming themselves is a symptom of a problem. The question to ask is WHY are honest people arming themselves. The old media does not want to ask that question, so they just go with the emotional gun control argument.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: southernboy, 9/22/2013 12:05:22 PM     (No. 9531803)

Recently Mississippi was successful in re-defining the old concealed carry law which was written to nullify the right to carry written into the Mississippi Constitution.
A liberal Congressman, along with a group of liberal sheriffs, opposed this bill by predicting that there would be blood in the streets and shoot-outs on the public squares. Weeks have now passed since passage and, guess what! No blood…no shoot-outs. Few if any reports of open carry being exercised. Those that choose to do so are respectful and quiet about it.

Anti-gunners are disappointed!

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Reply 31 - Posted by: columba, 9/22/2013 12:07:41 PM     (No. 9531809)

You forgot about the part when the CEO of Starbucks said he did not want Christians for customers.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: Keekng, 9/22/2013 1:44:17 PM     (No. 9531930)

No problem, #31, McDonald´s has better coffee for less money and they give a seniors discount!

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Reply 33 - Posted by: faith_and_reason, 9/22/2013 5:09:30 PM     (No. 9532105)

#31, I understand that was a false interpretation of what he actually said.


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Reply 34 - Posted by: rmsimms, 9/22/2013 5:55:23 PM     (No. 9532166)

We dispensed with these rights long ago, but American gun owners cleave to them with the tenacity that previous generations fought to continue slavery.

This is particularly amusing when you know that the Confederate States Army and Navy was well armed with the latest British rifles and artillery....when Grant took Fort Donelson he had his troops exchange thier worn out muskets for the nearly new British made rifles carried by the men they had just captured. And the famed CSN Raiders were commanded by Confederate officers but operated by British seamen.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: StuartL, 9/22/2013 6:16:36 PM     (No. 9532180)

The only “intervention” we would ever conceivably want or need from the “world” would be the forcible deportation -- what, in a more commonsensical age, was called “transportation” or, even better, “banishment” -- of about a million and a half young urban black males.

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Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Thursday that a family of dissident ranchers and their supporters in his home state of Nevada are ´domestic terrorists,´ citing this week´s standoff with the federal government´s Bureau of Land Management. Cliven Bundy has refused to pay grazing fees for land where his hundreds of cattle roam every day. The land is owned by the federal government, which says he owes more than $1 million. Bundy, however, insists that since his family has been using the land since the 1870s, Uncle Sam can´t collect the grazing fees. A tense standoff developed this week after

White House asks American parents to
monitor their children for signs of terrorism

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Daily Caller, by Eric Owens    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/19/2014 5:50:04 PM     Post Reply
In a speech earlier this week, Lisa O. Monaco, President Barack Obama’s assistant for homeland security and counterterrorism, insisted that American parents must be vigilant because their “confrontational” children could be on the verge of becoming terrorists. Monaco’s full, prepared text is available here. She presented the speech, entitled “Countering Violent Extremism and the Power of Community,” at Harvard University’s Kennedy School of Government on April 15. Monaco began her remarks by eloquently describing the lives tragically lost last year during the Boston Marathon bombings. Interestingly, the Harvard grad failed to mention the religion or the motive of brothers Dzhokhar and Tamerlan

Ted Cruz, Invoking Reagan,
Angers GOP Colleagues
but Wins Fans Elsewhere

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Wall Street Journal, by Monica Langley    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/19/2014 8:09:17 AM     Post Reply
WASHINGTON--Rushing to an afternoon vote last month, Sen. Ted Cruz hopped the underground tram to the U.S. Capitol from his office across the street. The Texan planted his black ostrich cowboy boots in the middle of the small subway car without getting so much as a nod from the other senators--Republican or Democrat--amiably chatting or huddled in their seats. Mr. Cruz finds himself standing alone a lot these days. His response to the cold shoulders: "The establishment despised Ronald Reagan" before he became president, "but the people loved him." For the 43-year-old Republican, the Reagan name illuminates his political life´s

You lie! Reporters accuse Obama
of deception, demagoguery just
to get attention

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Washington Examiner, by Paul Bedard    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/18/2014 9:28:24 PM     Post Reply
Prominent Washington correspondents are accusing President Obama and his aides of knowingly stretching the truth on issues like the so-called women´s pay gap just to create controversy and keep issues -- and the president -- relevant. Washington Post columnist Ruth Marcus kicked off the attack last week when she blasted as “demagoguery” the administration´s tactics during the pay gap debate. “The level of hyperbole -- actually, of demagoguery -- that Democrats have engaged in here is revolting,” she wrote. CBS White House Correspondent Major Garrett then weighed in this week in his National Journal

Clintons celebrate Chelsea’s
pregnancy announcement

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New York Post, by Stephanie Smith    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/19/2014 8:32:52 AM     Post Reply
The Clintons had a busy night of celebrations after Chelsea announced she and husband Marc Mezvinsky are expecting a baby. Bill joined “House of Cards” star Kevin Spacey at the Revlon Rainforest Fund Benefit Concert at Carnegie Hall Thursday, joking of Spacey’s Machiavellian character, “When I was president people accused me of murder all the time, made a show of investigating. Spacey’s president for 15 minutes and he gets away with murder.” Spacey, who sang during the event with Sting, Stephen Stills and James Taylor, also showed off his Johnny Carson impression, taking a swipe at the coverage of Flight

Harry Reid Doubles Down on Bundy
Ranch: ´If They´re Patriots, We´re
in Big Trouble´

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Breitbart Big Government, by Kerry Picket    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/18/2014 9:39:40 PM     Post Reply
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid on Friday stood by his statement regarding embattled Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, saying on KSNV’s What’s Your Point?, “If anyone thinks by any figment of their imagination that what happened up there last week was just people rallying to somebody that was oppressed, 600 people came in armed. They had practiced. They had maneuvered.” Reid continued, “They knew what they were doing. They set up snipers in strategic locations with sniper rifles. They had assault weapons. They had automatic weapons. And they boasted about the fact that they put women and children, in fact one

Stop dressing so tacky for church
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CNN, by John Blake    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/20/2014 4:40:56 AM     Post Reply
If the Rev. John DeBonville could preach a sermon to lift the souls of churchgoers across America, his message would be simple: Stop dressing so tacky for church. DeBonville has heard about the “come as you are” approach to dressing down for Sunday service, but he says the Sabbath is getting too sloppy. When he scans the pews of churches, DeBonville sees rows of people dressed in their Sunday worst. They saunter into church in baggy shorts, flip-flop sandals, tennis shoes and grubby T-shirts. Some even slide into the pews carrying coffee in plastic foam containers as if they’re going to Starbucks. “It’s like

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