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The Pope’s Progress
America Magazine, by Editorial

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Posted By:toledo, 9/20/2013 8:09:35 AM

It is with both caution and charity that we set out to assess the first months of the papacy of Pope Francis. Six months is not a long time in the church, and it seems unfair to evaluate an individual’s achievements after so short a period. We are also aware that as a Jesuit journal we have a special relationship to the first Jesuit pope, who kindly agreed to allow America to print in this issue the English translation of his interview with Jesuit journals from around the world. Yet St. Ignatius Loyola, the founder of the Jesuit order, calls

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Reply 1 - Posted by: civilservant, 9/20/2013 8:13:27 AM     (No. 9528736)

When will the Catholic Church(of which I am a member) realize that the more it ´liberalizes´ in order to attract more parishoners, the faster it disintegrates?

What is the fastest growing religion? islam.
Why? It makes NO APOLOGIES for itself.



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Reply 2 - Posted by: abuela10, 9/20/2013 8:24:23 AM     (No. 9528757)

these comments remind me of the 60´s when Pope John XXIII initiated Vatican II. So many people complained about the Church modernizing when in fact the Church was going back to its roots, making the mass more like it was in the catacombs. So too, Pope Francis is reminding the Church of Jesus´ message which is that we are loved by God.He is not looking to increase the numbers but to save its soul.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Gretchen, 9/20/2013 8:53:47 AM     (No. 9528798)

#2, you need to go read a good Catholic history book. My goodness.

At least the Jesuits got the last six words in the article correct: "...our hope rests in God alone."

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Reply 4 - Posted by: mitzi, 9/20/2013 9:04:32 AM     (No. 9528815)

I don´t see where some of you think the Church has "liberalized." Doctrine has not changed. Get yourself a Catholic Catechism.

Perhaps you are being led astray by the secular media ... whom I like to think of as "the devil in disguise."




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Reply 5 - Posted by: tinnyanko, 9/20/2013 9:15:25 AM     (No. 9528843)

Sorry but #2 is correct. You can not read history without recognizing that the church has had heresy and bad Popes but the dogma has never changed because it is guided by the Holy Spirit. Church laws can change but never dogma which is the teachings of Christ. Before you can change the laws of the state you must change the hearts of the people. That is all that he is saying. This is not liberation theology. It is the opposite.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: civilservant, 9/20/2013 9:24:10 AM     (No. 9528863)

DPA.
#4, the secular media is not sitting in the pew with me on Sundays as my priest tells me that the Bishop and upwards wants me to defer to the Government regarding helping out others.
"Render unto Caesar......"

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Michaelus, 9/20/2013 9:50:58 AM     (No. 9528908)

I am actually amazed - the Pope´s comments have been taken out of context by the media and many people who never realized that the Church is a hospital for sinners are now taking a fresh look at us. All I can say is God does work in mysterious ways.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: MDMuskrat, 9/20/2013 10:11:07 AM     (No. 9528942)

This Pope bids fair to revolutionize Christianity.

It is no accident that he has come along now. [Admit it, sometimes God works in glaringly obvious ways.]

When the world is in despair, Islam is the fastest growing religion, Miley Cyrus, Lady Gaga and Beyonce personify our cultural decay, and our country is being raped by Chicago thugs (including the lead thuggee, Obama), the Pope grabs headlines. Three million for one Mass?

He reaches out to all, prepares a huge tent, and an even greater spiritual feast. He makes people want to become involved and to believe again.

Some say the Catholic church is nothing more than a business. I agree. But what is its main product? CONSCIENCE! With charity, humility and a lifetime belief in God also on the product list. We could use more of these products. Il Papa will expedite their delivery.

Disclosure: Raised a Catholic, I left the church at the age of reason (~14) and returned to faith at the age of incipient wisdom (14+).

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Reply 9 - Posted by: yuban, 9/20/2013 10:43:10 AM     (No. 9528997)

Making excuses for an elected official, the Pope, is as bad as reasoning with a Liberal. I realize the die hard Catholics will never say they are being duped by the Pope but I will. Shame on him for saying you do not have to believe in God to go to heaven. Shame on him for saying being obsessed with abortion is wrong. Shame on him, period.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Redneck In NY, 9/20/2013 11:24:09 AM     (No. 9529055)

The only folks being "duped", are those who rely on the MSM to convey the Popes words. Myself, along with about a dozen others have been screaming from the heavens for 2 days that theNY Times does NOT have the church´s best interest at heart. We have been commenting over and over again for people to read the original article.

But alas, so many here are so excited to take potshots at the Vatican ( I especially like the ones who start out with "I´m a Catholic, but...") that they will swallow whole the MSM´s version of the Popes words. Sigh...

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Reply 11 - Posted by: yuban, 9/20/2013 1:51:46 PM     (No. 9529295)

I am no more excited in taking potshots at the Vatican as you are excited about defending the undefendable.

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