The 2008 Republican presidential nominee, criticised Mr Putin and his associates for rigging elections, imprisoning and murdering opponents, fostering corruption and "destroying" Russia´s reputation on the world stage. "I am not anti-Russian," Mr McCain wrote in the piece, which his office said was sent to both the Communist Party´s Pravda newspaper as well as to online media outlet Pravda.ru. The latter was expected to publish it today, his staff said. "I am pro-Russian, more pro-Russian than the regime that misrules you today." Mr McCain last week made no secret of his intention to write an op-ed piece for Russian media
Putin´s Oped was insulting and condescending but for all the outraged bluster coming from Congress I didn´t hear one word of criticsm of the NYT for giving an enemy of the United States a platform to attack us. If McCain wants a rebuttal how about printing one in the same newspaper. There are plenty of Americans who need to be educated about the difference between America and Russia. And #1 might want to start choosing sides a little more carefully. You can despise what Obama stands for without falling for the propoganda of a communist dictator.
Why should McLame care? It was only a Commie dictator insulting a Fascist dictator. Both represent oppressive goobernments that only want to destroy liberty, freedom and happiness. It´s not like Putin was insulting capitalism (notice the last great bastion of capitalism on the earth, the Communist Chinese, Putin doesn´t say a word). Putin was justed PO´ed cause his completion to be the world´s greatest despot in oppressing freedom had a new challenger in Obambi. And one knows Putin went ballistic when Obambi socialized medicine and Putin can´t get that done in his country.
It is not unlike a school with a weak and incompetent principal. The assistant principal, teachers, school board members and parents will go around him and interact with each other. It is not ideal for a school board member to intervene between a coach and a parent, but when there is a vacuum in leadership, someone will always try to fill it.
However McCain´s view of his relevance and power far exceeds reality. He is just as out of touch with the American people as his counterpart in the white house.
IF we had a REAL American for President, one who got the tingles as a Cub Scout watching a 4th of July parade, one who understood how Great America really is, celebrates the resouces we have and uses them FOR Americans benefit. Obama is an outsider looking in (in his mind). Thus he is negatively judgemental toward America, and actually commiserates with other leaders of communist countries when they are hypercritical of OUR "shining city on the hill". A strong and prompt response to Putin from Obama himself was just too much to ask. He and those around him are America haters.
John McCain, quick to attack conservatives in the Congress as radicals, but quicker to defend the radical President who is so stupid he doesn´t think raising the debt limit increases the national debt. Sad!!
Even though Putin´s op ed was ridiculous, I find it really immature that one our longest sitting senators (and I mean longest) responds with this type of outburst. How about ignoring Putin and his ilk? McCain is long past any usefulness in the senate and I´m really surprised that he keeps getting re-elected despite his constantly surfacing senility issues.
Why dignify Putin with a response? McCain takes the bait, dives headfirst into a political cesspool where nobody is going to change anybody else´s mind and then pounds his own chest in a childish display of one-upmanship. There´s no point, other than grandstanding.
John McCain is like the boy who holds the spit bucket in a prize fight and his fighter just got beat now he wants to pick a fight with the winner when the whole episode is over. Obama got snookered by Putin and Assad can continue wiping out Obama´s ´rebels´. McCain is an ignorant, power hungry, tax stealing, freedom killing old coot who should shut up.
Do you really believe that Vladimir Putin cares what this old, confused fool has to say?? Who does McCain represent----certainly not the conservatives, certainly not the people of Arizona and certainly not me----he´s become obama´s shill. In the case of Syria, Putin´s right and McCain´s wrong. Why wouldn´t you use diplomacy rather than stand back and fire missiles into a sovereign country killing innocent people and aiding enemies that are a greater threat to the U.S. than Assad ever will be. He´s way overdue for the move to Sun City!
McCain is an arrogant snot. He was so rude and condescending to a group of voters from his district. My instincts were right about this man from the start. I knew he would not make a good president. Neither would Romney. This is make it or break it for the Republicans - this next election. I hope they know it.
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Judy W., 9/19/2013 8:23:36 AM (No. 9527227)
I think it was an excellent reply. I´m glad McCain did it; there are some things he is not confused about and America´s superiority over Russia is once of them. I´m glad Jim DeMint also wrote a reply. I´d be happy if Charles Schumer wrote a reply, or Nancy Pelosi, or anybody. The question of America´s exceptionalism and superiority over Russia is not the property of a select group of conservatives; it´s an American issue.
FTA: "In a blunt, often personal counter-punch that ran more than 800 words, Mr. McCain wrote that he bears no ill will toward the Russian people, only the country´s government which he says ignores humanity´s "inalienable rights" of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness". President Putin and his associates do not believe in these values. They don´t respect your dignity or accept your authority over them."
The irony of his words to the Russian people is breathtaking. Senator McCain, who stands among the trees of power in America, apparently can´t see the forest of our own government for some of his fellow trees - especially, although not exclusively, the executive branch.
I heard on the radio the other day that the Arizona GOP leadership are preparing a formal rebuke to McCain. Sure hope they do it. Naybe he´ll listen to them. Sure wish that guy running against him hadn´t been such a blustering idiot.
McCain is a neocon fossil still fighting the cold war. Doesn´t it bother anyone that Obama wiped the floor with this guy and our other nominee, Mittens, while Bush barely won in the electoral college-twice. ´We the people´-my butt.
#2, it was not "propaganda" that Putin was spouting...........he was merely reiterating Obama´s speech wherein he STATED that; in the opinion of POTUS, that he believed that Americans BELIEVED they were exceptional, just like the Greeks thought they were etc.......
First line: "The 2008 Republican presidential nominee, criticised Mr Putin and his associates for rigging elections, imprisoning and murdering opponents, fostering corruption and "destroying" Russia´s reputation on the world stage."
Replace "Putin" with "Obama" and "Russia" with "the United States" then McPain would have for once in his political career been correct. What if McPain had said that in 2008 instead of, "You have nothing to fear from an Obama presidency"?
McCain uses "I" or "me" 10 times in the first 100 words in his response to Putin...got a notice the site does not accept items from the Pravda domain so couldn´t post the original...but clearly Rep. Buck McKeon´s op-ed in the Moscow Times was harder hitting and less self-serving:
McCain you are a crazy lefty, always have been. Sorry for the stuff you´ve been through over there, but that does not give you carte blanche forever to mouth off your commie crap. Whatever happened ´over there´ in Vietnam has turned you. Every time you appear on TV, and when is there a time you are not on, you show your true colors, defending anything left!
I posted this on Pravda´s website. McCain is provoking the bear because of Obama´s weakness. We´ll see if it backfires.
"I hope Mr. Putin has a sense of humor.
He struck a nerve with his claim that America was not exceptional. He and Obama both misunderstand its meaning. Americans believe it is our Constitution that makes us exceptional. It´s not a claim of superiority over another people. A government of the people, by the people and for the people in the eyes of God had never been tried before. Our rights come from God and not government. The resulting freedom and liberty is why people from around the world (including Russia) come to our shores.
Left wing RINO McCain is irrelevant and he proved it for all time siding with socialist Schumer and TeaParty Turncoat Traitor Rubio when they were trying to union organize 30 millions of illegals into a dangerous half way legal status, enough to get them lawyers to sue America. McCain, the rich Indian supporter for tax free millions, is the perfect example of the ruin of the drunken greedy Congressional republicans
Publicly attempting to demonize Putin is not a way to influence him to deal with the USA in the future, but seems to fall in line with what American politicians have been doing now for many years, simply personally demonizing foreign leaders with who they do not agree.
No more from the man who claimed to put country first in 2008 and then picked a half-wit as a veep candidate, the man who personally despised Mittens in 2008 and then hypocritically supported him in 2012. McCain has been itching for a war with Russia ever since the Cold War ended. But then he itches for a war ANYWHERE most days.
Maybe this is not correct but I heard that McCain sent his letter to the wrong Pravda: an obscure website that is not read by hardly any Russians. Anyway, this is the first I heard how pro-Russia he is. His wife and simple-minded daughter might have assisted with his silly rant.
Too bad John McCain couldn´t have been bothered to write similar pieces about Obama and the radical Left Democrats who are busy wrecking the country right under his nose and on his watch. One wonders exactly what he hopes to accomplish by this tirade against Putin. Most likely it is the usual thing, i.e. to aggrandize and ennoble John McCain.
At least he seems to have found his actual level of competence: writing crank letters to newspapers about whatever gets his goat. I wish he would retire and devote himself wholly to this basically innocuous hobby. His presence as a loose cannon in the Senate represents a threat. It is a luxury America can no longer afford.
Insulting McCain now is like closing the barn door after the cow run off. McCain lost, and those of you who didn´t vote for him, effectively voted for Obama. The concern now is that the Republicans party is so Balkanized, that no candidate can win for the party. (PaleoConservatives, Social Conservatives, Fiscal Conservatives, NeoConservatives, Libertarians, etc.) Step one, stop insulting Republicans. Step 2, vote Republican.
To think this "whacko bird" was nominated to be POTUS. McCain knows zilch about diplomacy. Our objective as a nation is to encourage - "nudge", as Cass Sunstein would put it - Russia to become a constructive player on the world stage. IMO the way to do that is not to insult him in Pravda, which will bring about the same reaction from the Russians as Putin´s NYT Op-Ed piece invoked from us. Factual or not, Americans and Russians alike resent lectures from outside.
Instead, we need to learn from Ronald Reagan, who challenged Gorbachev based on Gorbachev´s love of Russia and his policies of Glasnost and Perestroika. Gorbachev´s ultimately positive response settled the Cold War and gave us a generation of relative peace. [I won´t join those who crow that we "won" the Cold War. IMO we "survived" it, thanks to the Grace of God and the works of men (Reagan, Gorbachev, Walesa, and John Paul II) and women (Thatcher) of good will, among others who came before them.]
We now have a similar "opening" with Mr. Putin. He loves Russia. He has taken on the mantle of peacemaker. We should now challenge him to live up to that, and be a positive influence in world affairs.
McCain´s treating him the way McCain treats us Tea Partiers does not help. He should go away, or at least be ignored.
Sorry to post twice, but #24, please. Are we really going to assign motives to Putin´s Oped? Have we sunk so low that we are willing to cozy up to this creepy Communist dictator because he is more willing to trash Obama than our own media? If so, then congratulate yourself. You were his target audience.
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