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Non-Black America Experiences
a Paradigm Shift

American Thinker, by John Ross

Original Article

Posted By:DW626, 9/4/2013 5:53:45 AM

There is a sea change occurring in America fifty years after MLK Jr.´s "I Have a Dream" speech. This paradigm shift is spreading with the growing realization among our citizens that Black America (including our president) seems to hate Non-Black America. Temper this sweeping statement with the fact that blacks in America may genuinely like non-black individuals, just as whites in 1850 who believed blacks were a lower form of life still knew individual black men they respected for their particular talents and/or character.


Reply 1 - Posted by: miceal, 9/4/2013 6:10:35 AM     (No. 9504792)

It´s a lot to do with actually WORKING and EARNING your lot in life and NOT having stuff handed to you because of your skin color or your sexual preference..... Just sayin´....

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Janjan, 9/4/2013 6:20:33 AM     (No. 9504800)

Blacks have overplayed the race card (with the help of white liberals) and the rest of us are tired of the label. Obama and Holder have set race relations back by 50 years.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: bubby, 9/4/2013 6:59:24 AM     (No. 9504836)

This is not surprising. Since the 1960´s blacks have been taught that all whites are racist. Look at what is being taught in the colleges and churches. CRT (Critical Race Theory) teaches that all laws created by whites are racist and therefore the black community doesn´t have to obey them. Such teachings and beliefs has resulted in the flash mob violence of blacks against whites. The killing of whites by blacks is ignored by the msm while the killing of a black by a white gets national headlines. The black community has been destroyed by white liberals. I have no hope for the black community but all things are possible for God.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: doodah, 9/4/2013 7:10:02 AM     (No. 9504854)

I saw this ten years ago when I taught school in a mostly black neighborhood. Many of the black staff had "secret meetings" or lunches behind the stage curtains and none of the white staff was invited. The principal was also black, so all the difficult children were assigned to the white teachers. Oh, yeah, I could tell you a thing or two about being prejudiced, but my solution was to ignore the nonsense and be the best teacher that I could be. It paid off and in a few years, I was voted teacher of the year and those few years were some of the best of my career! I guess it was such a challenge and the young students were such sweethearts, without chips on their shoulders at that early age.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: TakeBackAmerica, 9/4/2013 7:10:24 AM     (No. 9504855)

FTA: Non-blacks frequently point to Thomas Sowell as an especially perceptive critical thinker with tremendous insight. What these people don´t realize is that Mr. Sowell is widely hated in the black community for his refusal to excuse or condone black criminality.

America twice elected a black American president. Fine. But he was the wrong black American.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Bohallx, 9/4/2013 7:28:56 AM     (No. 9504889)

Setting records left and right, Obama will be both America´s first and last black President, and odds are good he´ll be both it´s first and last black President who got impeached and removed from office.

4 records in a singular event ain´t bad!

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Reply 7 - Posted by: udanja99, 9/4/2013 7:43:42 AM     (No. 9504911)

0bama will NEVER be impeached for the simple reason that he is ( sort of ) black. That´s exactly the reason the demoncrats dumped Hillary and latched onto him - they knew that his skin color would allow him to get away with ANYTHING. And they were right as we, sadly, now know.

I was never a racist, but after the last 5 years, I´m not so sure that´s true anymore

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Fiesta del sol, 9/4/2013 7:44:17 AM     (No. 9504914)

B.O. (Before Obama) I had a black friend who was a homeschooler like me. She and her (black) husband are church going people, have children of their own, and have adopted a few crack babies. This family believes in the bible, she is vociferously against gay marriage. Basically,she lives her life as a conservative. But the day in 2008 when she put a Hussein sign in her yard is the day she became an ex friend. I thought MLK´s words ´content of their character´ meant the same to her as it did to me. I realized then that black trumps everything to these people. Everything. I feel a little bad about it, but when I think that thanks to her vote, I will be paying for abortions, and facing a death panel, I quit feeling bad.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: raspberry, 9/4/2013 7:45:51 AM     (No. 9504916)

Thinking Americans, especially those in the cities, are sick to death of what black culture has forced on us. Black self destruction and cultural blindness is madness. Crime statistics, 75% illegitimacy,
illiteracy scream to the blind and deaf of this self-directed underclass.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: TakeBackAmerica, 9/4/2013 7:51:03 AM     (No. 9504920)

Those of us who grew up under Jim Crow had to make up our own minds about race and raise our children accordingly. Too bad Obama came along using his fraudulent black presence to fool most blacks and many whites to reach high office, then re-dividing the races with his America-hating dictatorial Marxist views.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: jeffkinnh, 9/4/2013 7:56:01 AM     (No. 9504925)

Black culture has descended to that of the mob, united but mindless.

And mobs don´t build, they tear down.

Slavery has been abolished for many years. This time Blacks are enslaving themselves to a failed culture and failed ideas. When the cost comes due, who will they blame this time? White guilt for slavery allowed them to play the victims. But whites are not doing it this time and bear no guilt.

By the way, hearing that BO was a "community organizer" should have told us that he was a mob generator. People have complained that he is always in "campaign mode" but that is all he knows, how to stoke up the mob.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: masscon, 9/4/2013 8:13:40 AM     (No. 9504950)

Saul Alinsky knew it an encouraged it. Encourage victimhood and a person can rationalize anything. It´s something that runs very deep. My parents were the children of Irish immigrants. They were very faithful, devout, sober, strict, pro-life, pro-family, solid citizens. We couldn´t get away with anything. But they were sympathetic to the IRA. They saw these young men as victims rather than thugs. I wouldn´t be surprised if Blacks had a similar sentiment. Identifying with ´the tribe.´

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Reply 13 - Posted by: fysammy, 9/4/2013 8:29:12 AM     (No. 9504976)

#7, same here. Just moved to Charleston SC from LA, and many of the blacks here are angry, rude, almost militant, avoiding eye contact and not responding to a friendly greeting.

They are making a huge mistake.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Scottyboy, 9/4/2013 8:39:14 AM     (No. 9505002)

Unfortunately, too many persons of color (including the likes of Obama and Holder, I´m afraid) look in the mirror each morning and don´t like what they see.

Their self-hatred is projected against our society at large.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: monique, 9/4/2013 8:44:48 AM     (No. 9505017)

If you look at Muslims, notice the same identity. Our sea change should be there also. BTW, have you noticed that blacks hating the rest of us has coincided with how many of them converted to Islam? Which is really strange in itself, considering how many of their slave ancestors were slaves thanks to the Arab slavers.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: sorosisbehindit, 9/4/2013 8:46:42 AM     (No. 9505021)

There has not been a bigger racial divide in 50 years than there is now with this president.
I was raised to see no color and have lived my life evaluating character instead. Unfortunately, due to the "knock out game", I now see color everywhere I go.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: BuckeyeRon, 9/4/2013 8:52:04 AM     (No. 9505033)

This piece is absolute tripe and easy to refute...but why bother discussing the opinions of a no-name author who slanders all Blacks by citing OJ and a handful of thugs involved in criminal acts – this guy’s bio-sketch on the site mentions he fires 20 thousand rounds a year and is in to defense, so why no reference to the Commanding General of Florida-based CENTCOM a 4-star who happens to be Black or his 2 star chief of staff, also African American, who are in the midst of planning the action in Syria and who are responsible for commanding and caring for tens of thousands of American troops of every race, every day across 16 ME nations. These combat harden Americans have seen, heard, and fired 20 thousand rounds within an hour in war zones for the past 14 years, just as has the Black general who commands the Pacific region (a favorite of this site as pentagon spokesman under Rumsfeld during the opening days of the wars)...just a few of tens of millions of Blacks who go to work, raise their families, love God and country, and don’t deserve to be slandered.

Seeing this as a “Must Read”, as well as, the tenor of many of the articles and comments on race, has convinced me that a site I have enjoyed for its political discourse since its inception has undergone a paradigm shift of its own. Buh Bye!

As a longtime & valued poster, even you must acknowledge two things. Original & "Must Read" articles come from our varied posters [you have selected 100 from our checking our "search" function], and it is your Hostess who wakes up very early every morning to select the "Must Reads." We NEVER attack her choices. LCom Staff.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: pros7767, 9/4/2013 8:56:14 AM     (No. 9505043)

Excellent article!

What´s worse about the black culture is the influence it has had on our children. Between hip hop, rap, wearing pants below their butts, proudly displaying their underwear, the deviancy of this culture affects society at large.

Women are talked about as b****es and hos, to be used and tossed aside, consequences be damned. Street violence is glamorized as a necessary, justifiable way of life. Chicago is a classic example of this influence.

Nonetheless, we are the racists. The world is now upside down where right is wrong, truth is a lie, and black is white. We are in serious trouble.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: steelbreeze, 9/4/2013 8:56:30 AM     (No. 9505044)

only problem with that #4 is that when good folks do nothing then evil wins

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Reply 20 - Posted by: catfur27, 9/4/2013 8:58:01 AM     (No. 9505048)

...he is one half white...yet blacks identify with him?

...he is not "descended from slaves"...yet blacks identify with him?

...he grew up in a white home..in a white neighborhood...yet blacks identify with him?

...he went to elite private schools his whole life...yet blacks identify with him?

...he sends his kids to elite private schools...yet blacks identify with him?

...as Robert Byrd pointed out "he speaks like white man"(except when pandering to a black crowd)... yet blacks identify with him?

...he golfs dozens of times/yr on elite golf course...yet blacks identify with him?

...he vacations in Martha´s Vineyard and Maui...yet blacks identify with him?

...puzzling...??...but...he never really earned anything on his own..and has an undisguised contempt for white people...and his skin color is not white...now it makes sense.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Mother of AL, 9/4/2013 9:08:51 AM     (No. 9505069)

I agree with article, and posters. What I don´t understand...given all info in article....what explains all the black/white couples one sees everywhere. That used to be a no-no in years past. So is the race hatred only in the top echelons of race baiters..or what. By the way poster with like minded home schooling friend, my husband felt the same way about Tony Dungey and others like him. He is a big 0 supporter, and lost my husband´s *good will* with that.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: sadc, 9/4/2013 9:12:03 AM     (No. 9505075)

The entire framework for this kind of thinking is from Saul Alinsky, a pasty-faced white guy who wrote the rule book, Rules for Radicals, on how to rub someone´s sore spot of unfairness, be it race, income level, union, non union, whatever, and rub it raw to cause REVOLUTION. Obama and Hillary Clinton are Alinsky devotees. Alinsky dedicated his book to the first radical, Lucifer. Obama is a rookie at being a leader but he is a pro at divisiveness and a lazy, spoiled brat, who has no attention span beyond playing sport games where he imagines himself a star!

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Reply 23 - Posted by: angelesgift, 9/4/2013 9:12:42 AM     (No. 9505076)

I fell in love with Thomas Sowell when I read his book, "The Vision of the Annointed". The fact that he is Black was immaterial. As a White conservative, I would be friends with a Black conservative, but not with a White Progressive. I suspect all of us here identify more with ideology than outward appearance in our choice of friends and those we admire.

Dems took away that freedom from Blacks. Many of them would be conservatives if they were allowed to be, but they are so pressured to identify as Black first, and Blacks as a group are then so frightened and pressured to identify as Dem, they can´t really embrace their true identity. They´re just Black, and they have to stick together.

We have so few Blacks at TEA Party events, for instance, because so few have been able to escape the thought police. Although it´s no excuse, but it´s no wonder they lash out in anger at being so controlled and manipulated.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: southernboy, 9/4/2013 9:15:51 AM     (No. 9505079)

#21 “....what explains all the black/white couples one sees everywhere. That used to be a no-no in years past….”

I don’t know the answer but, if you notice, the largest percentage of mixed relationships are a white woman and a black man. And blonde seem to be the predominate hair color of the white women. Just an observation.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: bpl40, 9/4/2013 9:17:14 AM     (No. 9505085)

Bad as it is, as long as these black thugs commit one on one violent crimes things are still manageable. But when they run for and win elections and become the highest public officials of the land in charge of the rule of law... A truly frightening prospect.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: coldoc, 9/4/2013 9:27:19 AM     (No. 9505103)

Having been braised colorblind by my european immigrant parents, I had quite a lesson in race relations in the US Army in the 60´s. Blacks taught me all I needed to know about racism, bigotry, and hatred because of ones skin color. I never saw any justification for this behavior from the whites. It sounds like nothings changed.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: donnaclaire, 9/4/2013 9:29:22 AM     (No. 9505106)

On the subject of ´black vs white´, or vice versa, Barack Obama has done a gigantic disservice to all blacks in this country - by being a disinterested, arrogant leader who has done nothing but harm to our country and become a laughing stock throughout the world, for the most part. These Americans, who so looked forward to a glorious, promising and uplifting eight years of his leadership, deserved more, as did the rest of us.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: mc squared, 9/4/2013 9:50:04 AM     (No. 9505143)

One poster here doesn´t agree with the message, so they took their keyboard and went home.
What happened to the ´dialog´ Holder says we are afraid to have?

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Reply 29 - Posted by: gramma b, 9/4/2013 10:01:19 AM     (No. 9505163)

Anybody who didn´t catch the stench of anti-White triumphalism -- starting with the closing "prayer" at Obama´s inauguration -- just wasn´t paying attention. Glenn Beck said out loud that Obama was a racist, and was forced to back pedal. But, it has been obvious.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: rc1776, 9/4/2013 10:21:12 AM     (No. 9505229)

Granted this is anecdotal but I always find it amusing that any conversation this white octogenarian engages in with a black or color variant hereof ends in a rant against ole Dick Chenny and Bush or Crayon Martin.
I have tried to cut short the "exchange" in hopes that we might avoid this, but that fails.
Now when a black or color variant hereof attempts engagement I point to my mouth and feign muteness.
That does not always work. It will just launch into the diatribe at the offset.
Advice anyone?

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Reply 31 - Posted by: mrduc, 9/4/2013 10:22:32 AM     (No. 9505234)

Urkel himself pulled back the curtain on this with his attendance at reverend (Notice, small ´r´) Wright´s BLT church for 20 years. It was there for all to see. It was ignored.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: Arby, 9/4/2013 10:35:38 AM     (No. 9505281)

And what does this all come down to? The race hustlers have been successful in bullying the rest of America into silence and the political correctness agitators have succeeded in brainwashing the populace. The situation described has been clear for a long time. What´s new is that people are talking about it. Fauxbama has set back race relations by fifty years and Holder has been a key part of this.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: RancherJack, 9/4/2013 10:35:50 AM     (No. 9505282)

"There is another class of colored people who make a business of
keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro
race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make
a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled
habit of advertising their wrongs -- partly because they want
sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not
want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to
lose their jobs... There is a certain class of race-problem solvers
who do not want the patient to get well, because as long as the
disease holds out they have not only an easy means of making a
living, but also an easy medium through which to make themselves
prominent before the public."

- Booker T. Washington, _My Larger Education_, 1911, ch. V: The
Intellectuals and the Boston Mob, p. 118

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Reply 34 - Posted by: roadrunner, 9/4/2013 10:53:54 AM     (No. 9505341)

My observations in the workplace in the 60´s through 90´s is that people of color always banded together - it was groupspeak, groupthink, groupbelief, groupsecrets, they were seldom individuals and even those who rose through the ranks to the top aligned with the group 100% of the time. Why does this author think this is something new?

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Reply 35 - Posted by: BeatleJeff, 9/4/2013 10:55:49 AM     (No. 9505346)

It´s one thing for non-blacks to finally realize the insidious group-think that has a stranglehold on the black community. It will be another thing for non-blacks to finally shake off the fear of being laballed a racist for pointing out the obvious. Until they are no longer being pandered to and their bad behavior is roundly condemned by society as a whole, blacks aren´t going to change their behavior.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: Up2Here, 9/4/2013 11:02:28 AM     (No. 9505357)

#17-- Did he not read the article?

The author stated that he was referring to the big picture and not individual stories. As for all of his "AA" Army Generals, I would like to see a list of all of the positions in the military that were filled by color and sexual orientation in the last five years and not content of character. I believe the author´s thoughts were reinforced by the poster´s comments.

I have to defend the LCom staff´s decision to make the article a Must Read. There is a problem in America and it must be acknowledged before it can be resolved. Distraction will only perpetuate it.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: msjena, 9/4/2013 11:09:38 AM     (No. 9505371)

#8--I am also dismayed by the apparently large percentage of black Christians--and by Christian, I mean Bible-believing, evangelical Christians--who voted for Obama. It is sad that skin color trumps everything for most blacks. Obama couldn´t have been elected without a lot of white support, but it is the whites who are accused of racism. What many blacks (and white liberals) fail to acknowledge is that a lot of what they call racism is actually a cultural clash. Am I repelled by people who talk loudly in movie theatres or on public transportation, who wear baggy, low-riding pants, who are grossly overweight and eating in public, who accost me on the street and ask for money? Yes, whether they are black or white. But most of the time they are black. Does that make me a racist?

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Reply 38 - Posted by: Davids918, 9/4/2013 11:10:28 AM     (No. 9505378)

#33, that aptly describes Jesse Jackson who likely can not point to one, even one, bonafide problem solved accomplishment.

Sure, he parachutes into many issues, but then leaves with nothing accomplished.

And what most don´t realize is he gets PAID to show up, so it will highlight the issue, and gain TV attention.

The problem facing blacks is non-blacks like Hispanics, Asians and a host of other non-whites, has no connection to the old America.

Anyone see the movie ´42´? Did you notice how it was in mostly white, liberal cities like Philadelphia where they were against the black man from integrating into baseball? It wasn´t just the Deep South.

Same thing in the movie ´Lincoln´ where it was only Northerners voting on the amendment, but it was the white Democrats who were against it.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: loveUSA, 9/4/2013 11:31:10 AM     (No. 9505428)

There is another reason why blacks vote demoncratic.
Had a conversation with a middle class black man who had the same values as us but said he would be voting for dems because they "helped my people."

He couldn´t see that helping his people was really enslaving them to a life of handouts and not lifting them out of poverty.

Until this type of thinking is changed blacks will vote for liberals.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: Crosscut, 9/4/2013 11:47:09 AM     (No. 9505461)

Think of the trillions of wasted tax dollars. Imagine what America could have accomplished with that money; high speed trans-continental train system, total infrastructure rebuild, energy independence, not counting much lower taxes. The only thing to show for it are over crowded prisons, fatherless children, high crime rates and millions of low info voters. A lot of this can be blamed on the Democrat Party´s pursuit of continuous political power.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: JimS, 9/4/2013 11:59:17 AM     (No. 9505481)

#17- The article is tripe and so easy to refute? Then do so, instead of changing the sunject about the author´s use of guns.

John Ross says what we all know. To most Black people, Black trumps all. And in the rare cases of those Blacks (like Thomas Sowell, Clarence Thomas, Deroy Murdock)that don´t totally agree with this philosophy, the rest of the Black community detests, hates them abd calls them Uncle Toms

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Reply 42 - Posted by: weejun, 9/4/2013 12:27:03 PM     (No. 9505532)

#17: Colin Powell supported Obama for the presidency. What are you thoughts on that?

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Reply 43 - Posted by: MDMuskrat, 9/4/2013 1:12:40 PM     (No. 9505596)

#´s 5 & 17 provide the best evidence for the validity of the author´s (poorly presented) arguments.

No, it is not "fine" that this country elected a black president twice. Given that blacks make up only 12% of the population and 50% of the population (women) have historically been ineligible, we passed up a lot of good candidates and reached into the bottom of the barrel (as we now know) to find this mysterious community organizer. We allow lo-fo´s and their comrades to foist a candidate on us who wouldn´t even qualify to empty bed pans at a good hospital.

How about making the U.S. into a meritocracy?

#17: You make the author´s case. You immediately launch into a tribal defense of blacks, trying to match the author´s listing of examples. I empathize with you; it must be heart-wrenching to you to cite these examples with the certain knowledge that some (if not many) were AA and PC promotions.

This would be as difficult as accepting that blacks are good at sports because of genetic muscle differences with whites but ring out of SEAL training at a higher rate because of a lower percentage of body fat. Or that there might be differences in "cognitive ability" as shown in "The Bell Curve."

Time to finally face reality, folks: arm, travel in groups, avoid the dark side, and plan to excise the cancer.

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Reply 44 - Posted by: cheeflo, 9/4/2013 1:41:14 PM     (No. 9505621)

I think you missed the point, #17.

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Reply 45 - Posted by: Rafter, 9/4/2013 1:41:30 PM     (No. 9505623)

In brief...

O-Bomber´s Badministration is very deliberately all about REVENGE...

And the interracial dating scene has a "dark underside"...
White chicks who are undatable (uhh, seemingly unattractive shall we say) gladly hook up with
shady or dangerous black guys so they have a man and can have legendary sex.

For the shady type of black guy, it´s a status symbol to date a white chick, of any
type, no matter how lame or unattractive.

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Reply 46 - Posted by: wws, 9/4/2013 1:50:15 PM     (No. 9505632)

Attacking another poster in this manner is never allowed & will get you blocked. LCom Staff.

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Reply 47 - Posted by: chicodon, 9/4/2013 2:03:57 PM     (No. 9505643)

I´ve recognized this. As a group it seems they will fall for every conspiracy theory that is thrown their way. They believe all the lies that the only thing preventing the return of Jim Crow is Obama, Biden and the Democrat Party.

They believe the Democrat lie that they are being prevented from voting. Well, not them personally but all the rest of the blacks must be. Well, no one they know personally but it still must be true.

Just as the Egyptians are going to outlaw the Muslim Brotherhood, we should take a hard look at outlawing the Democrat Party.

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Reply 48 - Posted by: ncgrammie4, 9/4/2013 2:29:28 PM     (No. 9505662)

Wow, this guy hits the nail on the head. The OJ verdict opened a lot of peoples eyes. I still have a vivid memory of being in the break room at work with another Caucasian lady and about 20 Black´s. The verdict was announced and the collective shout and high fives left us with our mouth wide open in disbelief. These were coworkers who we had never thought of as racist. The race mongers have them believing that they are inferior in order to maintain control. We can do nothing about that.

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Reply 49 - Posted by: Not Always Right, 9/4/2013 2:31:58 PM     (No. 9505667)

#43 I have found that #17 has a propensity of immediately attacking any posting that is not laudatory regarding a Black with just the sort of reply he gave here. Instead of acknowledging that the conduct of some Blacks is reprehensible he trots out a few black military officers or says, in the case of a certain black golfer, that his personal life is not a factor in his overall position as the best golfer today.

It is sad that the color of ones skin does seem to trump the character of ones life but I think that is how many Blacks structure their lives.

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Reply 50 - Posted by: Texastealady, 9/4/2013 2:37:01 PM     (No. 9505671)

Well, hello America what woke you up!

Now, do we have to spend the next 50 years coddling the Muslims?

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Reply 51 - Posted by: bohallx, 9/4/2013 3:36:18 PM     (No. 9505716)

#36, #17 ~ So, #36, wasn´t that post at #17 one of Eric Holder´s own positions ~ that if someone argues generalities, he argues personalities, and if someone argues personality, he argues generalities.

So, whach ya think? Maybe Even Eric reads Ldot?

That´s what I´m thinking.

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Reply 52 - Posted by: Hazymac, 9/4/2013 3:39:15 PM     (No. 9505721)

If what the writer posits in this article is true, that´s a tragedy: Dr. King´s message turned upside down. Of course, in the years since the Civil Rights Act with the Voters Rights Act circumstances haven´t changed all that much, other than legally.

Same as many Americans, I was revolted to see the public reactions in the black population to the OJ verdict, in which a first degree multiple murderer--never mind that he was an NFL superstar--was given carte blanche. On that day I told a (very liberal, white) friend that the verdict and the reaction to it augured ill for racial relations in America. Obama´s election and reelection is the end point of that upside down Mansonia--Manson was the ultimate racist--counterreaction. Voters sometimes get what they vote for, and in this case, they´ve received their comeuppance in spades (if I may be forgiven using that terminology).

Part of the reason I left this site for four months was the too eager predilection of some posters to confuse race with ideology. I treasure those who agree with me, irrespective of race, and I revile those who disagree while practising paralogism, irrespective of race.

#17 has usually been a font of wisdom in these parts, and I, for one, will miss his contributions here, if indeed he has decided to distance himself from us. Maybe he doesn´t know that there are many, many conservative-libertarians who will continue to fight the worthy and moral fight that he has fought so well, with him or without him.

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Reply 53 - Posted by: 4Justice, 9/4/2013 4:20:35 PM     (No. 9505771)

#7, I never have been and never will be racist. Racism is borne of ignorance--like all forms of bigotry. It is NOT skin color that is causing the problems. Nor is it skin color or any other irrelevant physical characteristic or ethnicity that is the true basis of what is happening in our society. I refuse to allow the leftists to win by dividing people. That is their goal and they want us to hate each other. We are all individuals, despite what the truly racist left wants us to think. We are all human beings and all of us citizens are simply Americans. This whole racial thing is a leftist construct to divide and conquer the people of this country. I refuse to accept it. If a certain group is generally not acting as we should expect, we need to understand why. To me it is clear...because they have been conditioned to think a certain way after generations of propaganda, indoctrination, destruction of nuclear families and social fabric, peer pressure from sell-out "community leaders" and neighbors, mass media, and all sorts of other manipulation methods. But people of color are no different in potential or ability than anyone else. We need to counter the damage done. We need to get the truth out. We can NOT allow the evil left to win.

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Reply 54 - Posted by: Jakester2344, 9/4/2013 5:09:45 PM     (No. 9505832)

#8 Had a similar experience with what I thought was Pro-life acquaintance. He too voted the color of his skin. I did not go around him after that.

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Reply 55 - Posted by: StormCnter, 9/4/2013 5:31:51 PM     (No. 9505849)

#46, try doing a search before you accuse another poster of being a "troll". Your comment was ugly and uncalled for. #17 is, as another poster stated, a regular poster with thoughtful comments. I hope he reconsiders his decision.

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Reply 56 - Posted by: danvillebill, 9/4/2013 5:36:55 PM     (No. 9505855)

Agree with #52 re #17.

Despite his likely association with the state of Ohio and/or it´s state university, #17 has always been a stalwart contributor for this salon.

His words will be missed and I, for one, hope he will reconsider his decision to depart Lucianne.

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Reply 57 - Posted by: badrad, 9/4/2013 6:39:11 PM     (No. 9505929)

Re # 1, the part about the gays give them parity. Not same thing at all. Should have held out for gay unions not marriage because the marriage equality messes with everyones freedom.

Separation of church and state has devolved to where religions need protection from the state. Gays triumphant over the thing in California where sex orientation therapy is illegal. So where is the rights of a parent to try something that may help some not "born that way". If a young one has only gay experiences as in victims of massive sexual abuse, there is no choice in liberal (ie socialist) leaning CA.

The paradigm shift is the American inborn aversion to inequality and mind and body control. I doubt the commies would ever find Americans contolable and even the media controlled sheeple are stirring restlessly. Just wait until obamacare in all its 125% rate increase splendor hits them personally.

Nostalgically still love the women of "The Help". We tried, we really tried. What happened? Community organizer mayhem-commies targeting the black folk-the Father of Pride getting the black power movement to erase all the gains. He likes chaos as does Bill Ayers and Bernadett Dorne, and the Jarretts.

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Reply 58 - Posted by: qr4j, 9/4/2013 6:52:51 PM     (No. 9505945)

I am white and live in a predominately black neighborhood. My heritage is farm/blue collar factory of the mostly German variety.

I find it hard to cope with elements of the culture I find in my neighborhood: People walking down the middle of the street without regard for oncoming cars; trash dropped on the street; yards that look like hell.

I get along with my immediate neighbors; I don´t know many of the not-so-immediate ones.

But I am tired of hearing about race. I refuse to see movies -- even involving noble people like Lincoln -- that have race as a theme. I´m done. I´m tired of paying taxes that end up giving free rent, free food, free child support, and free welfare to folks in my neighborhood.

I´m done. But I smile. I try to be kind. And I trust Jesus will make me a positive witness in the lives of others. I´m done. But I don´t do violence. I do Jesus. I just wish my neighbors would take responsibility for themselves for a change.

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Reply 59 - Posted by: watercheetah, 9/4/2013 7:17:46 PM     (No. 9505968)

I have black friends but I doubt that I´ll be making more. It´s a shame. Why should I expose myself not just to violence, but to ridiculous charges against me, my business, my reputation? I think more and more non-blacks will find themselves pulling away, simply to limit their exposure to this nonsense. And thus this thing will get worse.

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Reply 60 - Posted by: TakeBackAmerica, 9/4/2013 7:26:51 PM     (No. 9505978)

Thanks to our L.com staff for riding herd on this thread. You folks make this an A-One intellectual outlet. Well done. S/F

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Reply 61 - Posted by: peterfleming, 9/4/2013 7:37:43 PM     (No. 9505988)

The John Ross article is all about a double standard. There is no room in free society for a double standard. The author leaves out the silent mass middle class black population of productive and amazing people. Core values preceed any of the time wasting prejudices we suffer in the media press and academe. If those double standard, influential media people were not trying to undermine our culture by selling communism and socialism, they would not be purposely agitating at every turn in full Marxist, Stalinist, Hitlerian, racist style, and promoting the likes of the hateful, race baiting Jacksons, Rangels and Sharptons at every foul opportunity.

This speech, attached below, is a longtime, Harlem black preacher’s rant, whose honesty is overwhelming. Forgive him his repetitions, that’s his own evangelical style. It’s amazingly refreshing! Here’s the man, James D Manning There´s more truth in this man, this preaching man, in his incredible view. He sees it, sees it every day, right up front. Yes, he goes on, yes he repeats himself, but his view of this black violence world is TRUTH! The COMING CATASTROPHE He is amazing in his castigating, loving, accurate anger. He sees the brutal double standard.

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Reply 62 - Posted by: Islandian, 9/4/2013 7:39:09 PM     (No. 9505989)

#13, I disagree. I came to Charleston from CA 30 years ago. The only black citizens I have issues with are some of those that moved here.

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Reply 63 - Posted by: Italiano, 9/4/2013 7:48:45 PM     (No. 9506001)

The most outspoken anti-Obama guys in my group at the cigar lounge are the black guys. They get it. It´s tempting to over-react with all the BS that´s going on, and I unfortunately often do. That doesn´t make it right.

Stick around, #17. This too shall pass, once we effect a few personnel changes at the top.

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Reply 64 - Posted by: nwcudagal, 9/4/2013 9:01:48 PM     (No. 9506072)

This article made me sad. The reaction to the OJ verdict made it very apparent to me that it did not matter if someone brutally butchered two people; it was all about race. I put those thoughts away for many years, but now I feel that race relations may not recover from the Obama administration. I have bi-racial step-grandchildren, and I can guarantee they will never be seen in a hoodie. I hope they don´t suffer as a result of all of this. When my daughter (not my step-daughter) moved to a big city she purposely sought out daycare providers who were black. My granddaughter is enrolled at a charter school that is only 22% white. Our hometown is 96% white, and she wanted her children to be integrated. I hope it all works out as she planned.

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Reply 65 - Posted by: BuckeyeRon, 9/4/2013 10:20:32 PM     (No. 9506145)

Meant to log on earlier to personally apologize to Ms. Lucianne...no, I didn´t realize that she selected the must reads. The author sets up a number of straw man arguments to draw conclusions about all Blacks, however, interest in this topic is evident judging from the number of comments. I disagree with most, particularly those that continue to believe all individual Black success stories are a result of affirmative action...the CG of CENTCOM is a West Point grad, who has served in combat roles for 37 years, and if he was an affirmative action player he certainly would have retired years ago and moved into corporate America. The general commanding the Pacific is the son of a general and brother of a general, all WP grads with a legacy. The number of Blacks in the officer ranks are dwarfed by the hundreds of thousands of Blacks serving the country they love in the volunteer military. I tend to cite Black participation in the military in many of my arguments because presumably we all agree that those who choose to serve are exceptional. Here are some basic facts about Blacks in America for those interested:

African Americans by the Numbers

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Reply 66 - Posted by: Hazymac, 9/4/2013 10:56:11 PM     (No. 9506169)

Re #17 and #65: Stick around, friend. Those of us who have come to know you over these years like and respect you for your good sense, your ability to get your point across, and for your humanity, which has always been admirable. Illegitimis non carborundum.

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Reply 67 - Posted by: Newtsche, 9/5/2013 12:12:04 AM     (No. 9506230)

Obama has not set back race relations, his presence has merely exposed a reality that has existed all along.

Yeah, in-your-face has ramped up exponentially, acting out is encouraged but we may be forced to have that discussion Holder said we´ve been too cowardly to have. Expect some shouting and hope those with their feet on the ground hold sway. In a just world bomb throwers like Obama will be footnotes. Bring it.

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Reply 68 - Posted by: Boneshaker, 9/5/2013 12:16:13 AM     (No. 9506232)

We started out with MLK who was a dreamer.

We ended up with Barack Obama who is a nightmare.

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