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Foreign Policy Hands Wonder: What’s
The Point Of Obama’s Syria Policy?

Buzzfeed, by Miriam Elder

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Posted By:StormCnter, 9/3/2013 4:44:14 AM

Frederic Hof spent President Obama’s first term as the State Department’s point man on Syria. He is now a furious administration critic, and a symbol of the growing consensus in the professional foreign policy community that the Obama Administration — no matter how its last-minute detour through Congress turns out — has badly bungled its Syria policy through two years of popular uprising turned bloody civil war. “The events of the past ten days suggest that there was no administration forethought to the possibility of a major chemical incident in Syria,” wrote Hof, currently a fellow at the Atlantic Council, where


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Attila DiMedici, 9/3/2013 6:16:07 AM     (No. 9503090)

FTA: There is hope that in the interim Obama will outline his longer-term goals.

Why would they expect that? Obama does not HAVE longer-term goals when it comes to Syria.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Scottyboy, 9/3/2013 6:51:51 AM     (No. 9503106)

He abandoned Iraq and forfeited Afghanistan and people think he should take up a new Mideast initiative?

I don´t think so.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Husker Infidel, 9/3/2013 7:00:34 AM     (No. 9503112)

Everything Obama touches turns to poison. Look at Egypt, look at Libya. He abandoned Iraq. He has messed up Afghanistan. I oppose military action in Syria. The rebels in Syria are backed by Al-Qaeda. I am sick and tired of our country going into other countries while our government will not even secure the border with Mexico.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: pineledger, 9/3/2013 7:04:41 AM     (No. 9503116)


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Reply 5 - Posted by: sagman, 9/3/2013 7:08:01 AM     (No. 9503123)

Obama War Room: Assad from That, Everything’s Going According to Plan

: Trouble, sir. The Security Council has voted to support Syria’s resolution that a U.N. weapons inspection team be allowed aboard our ships in the eastern Med.
OBAMA: What? Why . . . ?
KERRY: Assad said he had hard intelligence that we were planning to use KWMD against his forces.
KERRY: Kinetic Weapons of Mass Destruction. The resolution passed 4-0. Even France and the UK folded.
OBAMA: Why didn’t Ambassador Power veto the . . . ?
KERRY: She was having her hair done when they took the vote, sir. And it gets worse.
OBAMA: Worse?
KERRY: The team inspecting our ships is headed by Mosen Baraz, head of Iran’s ´´Project to Employ Nuclear Energy for Peaceful Purposes Ha Ha Ha.´´
OBAMA: “Ha Ha Ha”?
KERRY: Iran’s not even trying to hide its intentions any more, sir.
OBAMA: Anything else?
KERRY: I’m afraid so. Yesterday, Senator Reid received a ten million signature petition demanding that an attack against Syria be the subject a national referendum. In a rare moment of comity, he and Speaker Boehner agreed to support the measure and establish a time-frame. They’re talking November.
OBAMA: November? Well, that’s not too . . .
KERRY: November 2014, sir. Takes a while to set those things up.
OBAMA: All right. Agree. What choice do I have? Go out and make some boilerplate statement about the wisdom of having 200 million Americans weigh in on the matter, that we’re taking the high road in order to . . .
KERRY: Assad, Kim-Yung-un, the Ayatollahs—they’ll laugh themselves silly at our paralysis, sir.
OBAMA: We counter it. Put out this statement in my name: ´´President Obama reserves the right to strike Syria at any time before the referendum in 2014 Ha Ha Ha.´´

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Edgelady, 9/3/2013 7:11:30 AM     (No. 9503131)

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Edgelady, 9/3/2013 7:18:11 AM     (No. 9503140)

He´s pulled out of Iraq, out of Afghanistan, toppled Libya, Egypt, now working on Syria- main goal: tacit support to Muslim Brotherhood and their spawn. That is the only answer that makes sense - as repugnant as it sounds. And it´s quite amazing the international stirring up it is causing - highlighting his behavior - be it amateurish, or calculated with the goal in mind of something worse than communism: Muslim facism.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: nevernaught, 9/3/2013 7:22:49 AM     (No. 9503142)

The point is... there is no point. On second thought there are all those scandals to cover up and what better way to prove how tough Zippy is. Was he looking for a place to hide under his desk in that picture?

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Rinktum, 9/3/2013 7:51:03 AM     (No. 9503172)

Think Obama is the Twelfth Mahdi??? If he´s not, he certainly has the drill down. Like any good progressive, death and destruction just follow in his wake. What sane person would follow this man? He is on the verge of starting WWIII.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Hermoine, 9/3/2013 7:54:56 AM     (No. 9503181)

Just send in Huma, armed with a few sordid pics of her [Jewish] husband, Weiner with the threat to disperse them far and wide throughout Syria (and then the greater Middle East - talk about starting a regional war) and w/o a shot being fired, Assad just may hand over the keys to his little Shi´a-backed kingdom.

If this fails, send in the wookie, she´ll scare them all senseless.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: trapper, 9/3/2013 8:05:41 AM     (No. 9503195)

"goals it hopes to achieve with a military strike — punish Assad, send a warning to similar states, restore U.S. credibility"

Trying to restore your credibility is like trying to appear sincere.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: M2, 9/3/2013 8:13:40 AM     (No. 9503207)

I cannot believe Ms. Elder asks the question, "What is the point of Obama´s Syria policy?"

The point is that Obama is doing what he always does: Avoiding responsibility for decision-making, abdicating responsibility so that others take the hit when something goes wrong, and finally, trying to make the GOP scapegoats when they say "no" to a Syria attack.

This isn´t rocket surgery.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Jebediah, 9/3/2013 8:14:56 AM     (No. 9503209)

The whole point of all of this, quite obviously, is our President covering his b--- and acting POLITICALLY. He does not give a d--- about the U.S., just Barack Obama and who he can blame next. This is what we get when we have a man with no qualifications and a dubious Chicago background elected solely so people can pat themselves on the back re: their racial "tolerance." Can anyone say IRS, NSC, Holder, etc. etc. etc.?

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Jebediah, 9/3/2013 8:16:20 AM     (No. 9503211)

Poster #3 nails it when he/she says he is sick of going ion to other countries when we won´t even secure our own border with Mexico.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: steph_gray, 9/3/2013 8:30:39 AM     (No. 9503242)

Brilliant sagman, ha ha ha!

Unfortunately the point of all the Obammunist´s foreign policy is to weaken America so that he can become, in his imagination, dictator of the world. And no better way to weaken us than to support the twin serpents of communism and islamofascism, here and abroad, every day in every way.

Not a single action he has taken in 5 years does not support one of these goals.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: 4poster, 9/3/2013 8:47:23 AM     (No. 9503278)

Like #12 & 13 This smacks of ValJar, purely political and designed to pass the blame for any decision on to Congress.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: stryker714, 9/3/2013 9:08:09 AM     (No. 9503321)

If Obama says a strike would be limited and regime change is not the objective, just take it for granted that is exactly what his goal is. Anything he says should be read in opposite terms.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: varkdriver, 9/3/2013 9:13:18 AM     (No. 9503326)

Sagman, thanks much for weighing in! To paraphrase Butch Cassidy after defeating one of his fellow gang members, you are what sustains us in our times of trouble.

Barky has no policy besides voting ´present´. Not to mention pretty much broadcasting the ATO [Air Tasking Order} to the entire world outlining where/when/how we are gonna strike. Element of surprise? Who needs it? Not to mention maybe having an OBJECTIVE, and criteria to determine when that objective is met.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Felixcat, 9/3/2013 9:26:40 AM     (No. 9503350)

Why isn´t anyone asking HIllary? She was SoS that last four years. I mean if she is going to run one one basis being her foreign policy experience then pray tell, what the heck were you doing these last four years with respect to Syria and its civil war now two years old.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: strike3, 9/3/2013 9:27:27 AM     (No. 9503353)

The point is to try to make a braying jackass look strong and presidential. It has already failed.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: big red navy cheif, 9/3/2013 10:15:53 AM     (No. 9503430)

The problem is this administration reacts - it doesn´t plan ahead. Ever new event surprises it because they´re all focused on the next celebration, party, performance, or golf outing that´s planned, not what the world might have unfolding. It´s utterly amateurs, and they´ve not learned a thing thru five years.

There´s no forethought, there´s no prior planning (let´s face it, there´s no plan at all!) and there´s no consideration given to what-ifs, which are what you avoid disaster with...

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Reply 22 - Posted by: berlin, 9/3/2013 11:55:50 AM     (No. 9503603)

Long term goal? 0bama has only one long term goal and that is how to improve his golf game while keeping both his feet on our furniture.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: MDMuskrat, 9/3/2013 2:02:20 PM     (No. 9503904)

#4: Yup!

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Reply 24 - Posted by: snakeoil, 9/3/2013 2:29:07 PM     (No. 9503949)

Reminds me of Douglas McArthur´s comment about Harry Truman: "I would never have opposed Mr. Truman´s Korean policy if I had known Mr. Truman had a Korean policy." Has any one of these rocket scientists stop to consider who would replace Assad? Would he be any better. What´s the point?

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Reply 25 - Posted by: trapper, 9/3/2013 2:53:42 PM     (No. 9503986)

Isn´t it obvious? To save the Muslim Brotherhood. The Brotherhood is in BIG trouble. They were was just thrown out of Egypt, and are being trounced in Syria by Assad. The Sunni islamofascists may not be able to recover if they lose Syria too. They are desperate. One needn´t bee a soothsayer to connect THESE dots.

Then there is the piece by Boadansky that Rush was talking about suggesting that the US may have had a hand in planning the false flag chemical attack and blaming it on Assad as a pretext to take him out.

Oh, and don´t believe the "no boots on the ground" lie. Oh, it´s a lie. Nothing that can be cited here, but it´s public if you look hard enough. We´re going in. To support al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood. Curiouser and curiouser.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: peterfleming, 9/3/2013 3:12:37 PM     (No. 9504017)

If Nobama´s a poisonous muslim pro communist
then why aren´t there more non pooisonous
ANTI communists out there screaming at the top of their outraged lungs to stop all this
steady flow of destruction of American core values? Why? Where are you all ?

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Reply 27 - Posted by: TruthAndJustice, 9/3/2013 4:28:01 PM     (No. 9504138)

The question should not be WHEN we go into Syria...but WHO used the sarin..

Consider the following and add them up. This chapter began in Benghazi….

The Obama Administration knew of WMD attack…three days before. But notified no one and did nothing. Why?

Rebels in both Syria and Egypt are AlQaeda, the most violent arm of Obama’s friends, the Muslim Brotherhood.

Same rebels took down Egypt and turned Egypt over to Morsi of the Muslim Brotherhood.

Egypt began having Christians murdered and crucified under Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood.

Morsi deposed, Obama threatens Egyptian military to reinstate Morsi or loose funding from America. Obama hid this threat from Americans. Why?

Syria with the rebels fighting and now armed by Obama/Brennan….also now has Christians murdered, raped, crucified and massive Chistian refugees.

Obama’s CIA annex in Benghazi was transferring weapons through Turkey to the AlQaeda rebels in Syria. Reported WMD and Stingers leave Benghazi annex to those rebels in Syria.

Rebels are in the process of a take down of Assad to turn Syria, like Egypt, over to the Muslim Brotherhood. The Arab Spring is but a Middle East communist winter.

Reports, with documentation, have leaked that Obama was paying off Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood with 1.6 billion and 450 million directly to Morsi.
The terrorist at Benghazi were recorded as saying “Dr. Morsi sent us”…The arms being transferred though Turkey were assisted by Erdogan, another Communist Muslim Brotherhood dog.
The attack on Benghazi was to kill the eyewitnesses to the illegal treasonous arms transfer to America’s enemies by her treasonous Muslim Communist president with the able assistance of, his Muslim director of the CIA , John Brennan.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: patrick300, 9/3/2013 4:28:35 PM     (No. 9504139)

Ever wonder where the Iraq WMD´s went? Anyone remember the convoy of trucks that Saddam Hussein sent to Syria before his regime was toppled by American forces? Any guess on what types of gas canisters were aboard? Did the press ever cover that? Where was Hillary sending the weapons gathered at the Benghazi compound? What message did Russia send before the attack which killed 4 Embassy personnel? Why do all roads carrying Stinger missiles and weapons of mass destruction lead to Syria? Is this all just another International Fast & Furious operation by Obama & Co.? Head´s up people. The alarms are sounding.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: TruthAndJustice, 9/3/2013 4:32:15 PM     (No. 9504146)

Please Note:

Syria is aligned with Russia and Iran.

Whether some in this country, in the CIA or the Pentagon think aligning with AlQaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood achieves power…. or anything else in America’s interests…against Iran…they are wrong.
Best consider Obama and his IslamoCommunist’s actions. Those actions have never been in America’s best interest.

Obama has decimated America’s navy…he then leads that crippled Navy to war against Russia and Iran.


Obama, as Christians have been murdered, raped, crucified and their 500 churches burned… first in Egypt then in Syria… has not uttered a peep of outrage much less a single word of dissatisfaction. For his constant blather on racism…his silence on the holocaust of Christians is deafening.

Obama cut the USA’s nuclear arsenal, gave the Russians the Brits codes, broke our military through his insane rules of engagement and is running the most capable patriotic talent of the hierarchy of our military, it’s best Generals and Admirals, out of the military. Obama has cut the Navy’s size back to 1917 levels..crippled the military through assigning the entire sequestration cut backs to the military budgets….demoralised the military, cut out hot meals… sent American steel (the works best steel) off shore through cash for clunkers to China (those same salvage yards were used by FDR to built war ships) ….

…And now that our world class military has been are crippled…. and Obama has armed our enemies ….he wants to take us into WWIII…stunningly treasonous.

Obama is shepherding this nation, it’s economy, it’s military, its people…To hell…to bankruptcy..to defeat ..

Stop him.

The sarin came from the rebels..,Why is the question now when we go to war, rather than WHO the WMD came from?

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Reply 30 - Posted by: dodge boy, 9/3/2013 7:44:48 PM     (No. 9504374)

Funny how we don´t hear Europe or the msm questioning Obie´s incompetence and danger to the world.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: peterfleming, 9/4/2013 5:42:30 AM     (No. 9504773)

It´s a perfect WAG THE DOG scenario, times at least a million. Our muslim supporting imposter in chief, is providing the islamic warring supremacists another jihad opportunity. They just suffered, are still suffering, a monumental defeat in Egypt. Now their U.S. Islamic spy team, (jaret soros holder) can side with supremacist muslims in Syria, and TAKE THE HEAT OFF ALL OF NOBAMA’S CRIMES HERE IN AMERICA, AND ISLAMIC PAST CRIMES IN EGYPT (TWO FOR ONE). Could it be any more simple than that? The imposter’s Presidency is about to fall off the cliff and upset, destroy, all democrat and republican lies, they’re just minutes away from political suicide. BUT WAIT! Start a war, even siding with the filthy islamic supremacists and attempt to topple Syria´s leadership to BE REPLACED BY MORE MUSLIM TYRANNY. Nobama´s foul acts bring the disgraced muslims back into power. Rule: start a war, ANY war, and Obamacide, NSA IRS alien organizing, open borders, mass welfare, the fake Fed, trillions in debt, fast and furious, the worst, Hillary’s covered up Benghazi murders especially..... it all goes away with war. It’s a consistently horrifying as The Communist Party Line. They all agree.

That ladies and gentlmen, IS the SyriaPolicy
Wag the damn dog!

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Reply 32 - Posted by: jayhawk, 9/4/2013 2:29:45 PM     (No. 9505663)

These "leaders" are contemplating taking us to war and we can tell they are really, really serious in considering using our blood and our treasure when one of them can´t wait to grab his clubs and dash over to the golf course within 15 minutes of his really serious speech about Syria and the other has a hot game of poker going on his phone during a really, really serious Senate hearing on Syria. We´re doomed with these idiots ´in charge´ !!!

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Reply 33 - Posted by: cat2, 9/4/2013 9:50:28 PM     (No. 9506121)

I disagree with the author´s premise. What good did "back channels" ever do us? Some might say that helped, but the point is certainly arguable.

I do not want us meddling in the Middle East at all, and so, remarkably, I do not fault Obama for “sitting on the sidelines”. I just wish he would stay there now.

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On Fox News Sunday, political analyst Brit Hume said that Eric Holder’s claim that his treatment at the hands of Representative Louie Gohmert (R-TX) at a House hearing this week was unprecedented toward an Attorney General, made him a “crybaby,” and that he and President Barack Obama had in fact benefited “enormously” from being the first African Americans in their respective positions. “This strikes me as kinda crybaby stuff from Holder,” Hume said. “My sense about this is both Eric Holder and Barack Obama have benefited politically enormously from the fact that they are African American and the first to

Why You Should Be Sympathetic
Toward Cliven Bundy

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Powerline, by John Hinderaker    Original Article
Posted By: Toledo- 4/15/2014 8:40:58 AM     Post Reply
On Saturday, I wrote about the standoff at Bundy Ranch. That post drew a remarkable amount of traffic, even though, as I wrote then, I had not quite decided what to make of the story. Since then, I have continued to study the facts and have drawn some conclusions. Here they are. First, it must be admitted that legally, Bundy doesn’t have a leg to stand on. The Bureau of Land Management has been charging him grazing fees since the early 1990s, which he has refused to pay. Further, BLM has issued orders limiting the area on which Bundy’s cows can

Obama Generation Losing
Interest in Obama

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Wall Street Journal, by James Freeman    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/14/2014 4:23:09 PM     Post Reply
President Obama inspired a generation of young people to support his historic election in 2008. And in 2012, despite the struggles of his first term, Mr. Obama still managed to win the support of a full 60% of voters age 18-29. But the man who once dreamed of being a transformative leader in the Reagan mold is inspiring few of those young people to follow his lead. "For all the talk about the movement that elected Mr. Obama, the more notable movement of Obama supporters has been away from politics. It appears that few of the young people who voted

Why Hillary v. Jeb Would
Be Great for America

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Daily Beast, by Mark McKinnon    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/13/2014 6:11:32 PM     Post Reply
They’re both qualified, respectful of each other (shocker!), and represent the vast majority of middle America. So what’s not to like about another Clinton/Bush race for 2016? When you mention the prospect of Clinton vs. Bush 2016 a funny thing happens. First, there is the reflexive response: "Oh no, not again. We don´t need more dynastic politics in this country." But upon further reflection, you realize Jeb Bush vs. Hillary Clinton would be a great race and actually good for the country. Let´s review. QUALIFICATIONS—THEY’VE BOTH GOT THEM. Barack Obama won the presidency because in an election where the premium was on change, it mattered little

The world must shift to solar and wind
power rapidly to avoid catastrophic global
warming, say UN scientists in major report

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Daily Mail (U.K.), by Ben Spencer    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/13/2014 7:15:31 PM     Post Reply
A rapid shift to wind and solar power is needed if the world is to avoid catastrophic global warming, the United Nations warns in a crucial report today. Emissions of greenhouse gases need to be cut by up to 70 per cent before 2050 to control climate change, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) says. ‘Large-scale changes in energy systems’ are required, with coal power stations to be switched off and replaced by wind and solar. And the transformation needs to be made in the next 15 years or controlling climate change will become increasingly harder and more expensive. The report was published

Chelsea Clinton no longer
ruling out politics

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The Hill (Washington DC), by Judy Katz    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/14/2014 11:57:36 AM     Post Reply
Chelsea Clinton says when people ask her these days whether she wants to go into politics, her answer isn’t an automatic “no.” The 34-year-old former first daughter told Fast Company in an interview published Monday, “for so long the answer was just a visceral no. Not because I had made any conscientious, deliberate decision, but since people had been asking for as long as literally I could remember, it was no." Now, the only child of former President Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton explains, "I live in a city and a state and a country where I

Glaring limits of the Civil Rights
Act: We need to redistribute wealth

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Salon Magazine, by Matt Bruenig    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/14/2014 7:20:41 PM     Post Reply
Although the Civil Rights Act, the landmark legislation which just reached its 50th anniversary, made great strides in desegregating the economy, economic discrimination is still widespread, and anti-discrimination legislation alone can never rectify the economic damage inflicted upon blacks by slavery and our Jim Crow apartheid regime. The Civil Rights Act was a mild reform, all things considered, but one conservatives fought with vigor and one many conservatives are still bitter about to this day. When the Civil Rights Act passed in 1964, the primary purpose was to root out discrimination in public accommodations (like hotels and movie theaters)

If a nuclear bomb exploded in downtown
Washington, what should you do?

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The Week, by Marc Ambinder    Original Article
Posted By: MissMolly- 4/15/2014 4:51:46 AM     Post Reply
Funny question in the headline, yes? But since President Obama worries more about the threat of terrorists´ improvised nuclear device going off in a major American city than anything Russia can throw at us, I was wondering if the government had deigned to share with us citizens any tips for, you know, surviving something their own intelligence points to as the likeliest unlikely Black Swan event. Well, no. And yes. No — very few people in Washington, D.C., who work for the government have any idea what they would do if a 10-kiloton nuclear device exploded at the intersection of 16th and K

Obama taps gay bishop to wrap Easter
Prayer Breakfast with invocation

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Washington Times, by Cheryl K. Chumley    Original Article
Posted By: jackson- 4/15/2014 9:25:28 AM     Post Reply
When President Obama needed a preacher to fulfill the closing prayer duties at the annual White House Easter Prayer Breakfast, he turned to none other than the Episcopal Church’s first openly gay bishop — who said he was as shocked as anyone at the appointment. The Right Rev. Gene Robinson said in a tweet, accompanied by a photo of Mr. Obama behind a podium at the event: “POTUS ‘preaches’ at the Easter prayer breakfast. Then, out of the blue, asks ME to close with prayer. OMG!” Newsmax said he also emphasized that the words he chose to close the breakfast

Obama Selects First Openly Gay
Episcopal Bishop to Lead Easter Prayer

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Mediaite, by Andrew Kirell    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/14/2014 12:46:05 PM     Post Reply
President Obama pulled a surprise move Monday at the White House’s Easter Prayer Breakfast when he selected Gene Robinson to lead the closing prayer. Robinson is famously known as the first openly gay Episcopal bishop. Talking Points Memo’s Tom Kludt spotted the following tweet from Robinson, who was in attendance: (Tweet) Robinson, 66, became diocesan bishop of New Hampshire in March 2004. He retired in January 2013 and is currently a senior fellow at the progressive

Developing: Russian fighter jet buzzes
U.S. Navy destroyer in Black Sea

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Associated Press, by Lolita C. Baldor    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/14/2014 12:49:12 PM     Post Reply
A Russian fighter jet made multiple, close-range passes near an American warship in the Black Sea for more than 90 minutes Saturday amid escalating tensions in the region, a U.S. military official said Monday. In the first public account of the incident, the official said the Russian Fencer flew within 1,000 yards of the USS Donald Cook, a Navy destroyer, at about 500 feet above sea level. Ship commanders considered the actions provocative and inconsistent with international agreements, prompting the ship to issue several radio queries and warnings. The fighter appeared to be unarmed and never was in danger of

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