Barack Obama’s presidency has not been about restraining the powers of the presidency. On major issues both domestic and international — immigration, environmental regulation, the war in Libya, and more — Obama has shown no hesitation to act unilaterally in areas that properly lie within the purview of Congress. But now, the president says that even though he has decided the U.S. should attack the Syrian regime over its use of chemical weapons, he will ask Congress to give him permission to do so. It’s not entirely clear why Obama has decided to exercise restraint now when he has not done
Should COngress vote against attacking Syria, and Obama goes ahead and does it anyway...Congress will do nothing. The house can vote against Obama every day of the week and it means nothing. Reid controls what does and does not come up in the Senate and there will always be 34 democrats that will back the One no matter what.
Frankly, I see Congress authorizing action. Too many Republicans will back military action no matter what. McCain hasn´t seen a foreign policy issue that he doesn´t think cant be resolved with cruise missiles.
FTA: “...It’s not entirely clear why Obama has decided to exercise restraint now when he has not done so in the past….”
I’m wondering if he received some info about some world-shaking event planned for 9/11 which will justify and legalize his acting without Congressional approval…or will guarantee Congressional approval. Something that will “change his calculus."
FTA, "It’s not entirely clear why Obama has decided to exercise restraint now when he has not done..."
Au Contraire, it´s entirely clear. He know that he painted himself into that famous corner and looks like an idiot in front of the entire planet. Now he´s looking for a way out and someone else that he can blame for his own stupidity and arrogance.
Obama wants somebody to blame if things don´t turn out well for America - when it´s all over. What a feckless, but arrogant, coward.
And the photo this morning on Drudge of Obama squatting over his desk with his shoe on the edge of it.....Is Obama trying to send a message to the American people with all this shoe business? Maybe the disrespect he has for the Oval Office and beyond, or maybe an attitude of "It´s my house and my furniture and I can do to it what I want." God only knows what other reasons he may have.
Why? He could be starting WWIII. He wants to be able to blame the Republicans for it (and they´re stupid enough to authorize it . . . I bet Boehner has already told him he can get a vote for approval).
Ok, so we can expect hours of endless political prattle with folks having really big egos belly-bumping each other next month. For me, I just want one question answered...in public, which is where did these chemical weapons come from? If from Iraq, and I believe this is the case, then W has every right to stand up and tell the left, "my progressive little people and the msm whores, I told you so."
What I think happened is Boehner laid down the law in no uncertain terms that if Obama unilaterally attacked Syria that the House would immediately start impeachment proceedings against him. Obama´s foreign policy is nothing but dysfunctional. The whole idea of informing the Syrians that he might launch a "pinprick" attack against certain targets is idiotic. It reminds me of when Bill Klintoon sent missiles against an aspirin factory in Iraq. Nothing but a waste of time and taxpayers money. This is what we get when we elect an inexperienced punk for a pResident. Even our staunch ally the Brits don´t trust him. They know he is a liar.
Right #2, Obama wants some more "pilots" to join him in the cockpit he wants to slam shut and lock in our faces. Hey McCain and Graham will probably raise their hand, being the good guys they are, lol. He´ll probably attack anyway without Congress approval.
With the slow screw Obama inflicts on the nation, attacking Syria will speed things up quite a bit: from the charges rung up to more attacks on our embassies overseas and worse. All for the wishes of Saudi Arabia and Sunni domination the in Middle East.
Obama must be having a good laugh acting like he can´t decide, as Egypt news fades into oblivion-just the way he wanted it.
This goes beyond political positioning. Do conservatives want their hands on possibly triggering a regional conflict, or even WWIII? How many more Americans and others will die as a result? Especially when there is no strategic or diplomatic benefit to the USA? Are we now officially the world´s policeman? Where are the other nations in this? Those in Congress who would call themselves conservative must make a stand, as they did against Obamacare.
This is a time for a stand on principle, not political calculus. It´s about the lives of our sons and daughters, not the Emperor´s behind.
Usual Dem maneuver: drop a silent, smelly one and quickly leave the room. Blame the Republicans.
Many are sneering at BO´s naive gutlessness, but he is keeping his larger goal, humiliating America, clearly in mind. Whether he can pull off blaming the Republicans for this mess or not, our credibility has been diminished in the despot community. And that alone is a major gain for him.
Please. That conjures up images of two Titans in a stare down on Mount Olympus. Obama is no Titan, he’s more of a Tiny Tim. And Boehner’s mouthful of marbles act doesn’t exactly make him Titan material either.
Obama voted present, nothing more. And Congress remains a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury signifying nothing (h/t to the Bard).
Can anyone imagine a Churchill or a Reagan behaving like these tools?
I know how con-men work and think. Øbama got his fingers burned on this scam- con-men hate that. They will not try again. They flee from such encounters. They only go for the easy marks, the "rubes". When they get caught with their hand in another guy´s pants, they leave town, quickly. Notice how, immediately after his Rose Garden moment, he and Biden left to go golfing! Put it behind him- quickly. Forget it. Move on! Congress can do as it pleases. I doubt seriously Øbama will even lobby for the attack. It was all posturing! Nothing else- and he lost. Now, to find another distraction, that´s the goal. Congress can take the matter up or just let it die a quiet death. Øbama does not want to go there again. On to Russia- and that´s a place he would really rather not go, also. Putin will be gloating. Serious people scare the bee-Jesus out of con-men. I would not be surprised to see Biden get the job after some sort of feigned Presidential "illness".
BO has realized that when you act unilaterally, as he was planning to do, there is no one else to blame. How do you fix that? Invite someone else to the party. It doesn´t matter what the outcome is, he can now point the finger at Congress and say "It´s their fault!" as he has done so many times in the past. The media will cover for him and he can then walk away from the mess he created.
Yes, foreign leaders will see it for what it is, stupidity and weakness, but BO doesn´t really care about them. It may even give him fodder for the upcoming budget fights and the 2014 elections if the GOP does something stupid.
BO plays small ball, it´s about him and his ideological agenda. It would be nice to win the world but corrupting the US is his first priority.
No, the chemical weapons came from Libya through Benghazi. This is what America was supplying the Rebels with. And, I am not kidding. Obama, got caught and he covered it up. Now he wants to blame Assad to drag America into a war. And oh yes, Kerry is so sure so quick that Syria did the gassing, but a year after Benghazi this incompetent bunch still has no answers for dead Americans.
That´s right #5. And of all people, Kooky-cinish has said Obiewon faces impoeachment if he flies in the face of the Constitution. Only congress has the power to declare war, tho we´ve heard " I " and " Mine " when he said he thot he had the power to use yet another executive order. THIS is likely why he backed off. Impeachment would have been mandatory and his little stroll with whomever was a lesson in what he could face. He was saving his skinny backside, that´s all.
ps # 24, let´s hope the GOPhers see it too. Never let a crisis go to waste should be burned into their skulls by now. That´s why you may be right. The slime has one priority and that´s winning 2014. He´ll use any excuse to get his scandals out of the public eye and forgotten.
All of the uncertainty Obozo has created in the Middle East in the past 5yrs. just enforces the Islam belief of the US just being a paper tiger. And it emboldens their urge to attack Americans anywhere and anyway they can. After all, we are the "great satan" that must be destroyed. And Obozo is giving them the ammunition to stir up more and more Muslims. And launching a few missiles into Syria will just ignite more of the same.
Gee, ever since this year´s Boston Massacree, I´ve referred to The WON as... O-Bomber... and his Badministration...
Now, he´s just...
NO-Bomber... and his NOT-Really-A-Bad-ASS-ministration...
At least for today, or this holiday weekend... or until further notice... and... We´ll see what actually happens after Zippy gets back to work in the Oral Orifice...
Meanwhile, he´s out on the Golf Course, utilizing... a stiff shaft for... NO-Bomber´s favorite shot... The Reggie Wedgie... Which is probably what caused him to lose all of his balls a long time ago...
And maybe that´s why he´s just a little testy at times...
The Repubs should vote to authorize the prez to use whatever judgment he sees fit on this matter. That leaves them out of any demonization in the future if things go sour. Just as with the Democratic view of abortion, the Republicans should state their position as they don´t believe in attacking Syria but the President has a right to do so.
Apologies for a second post, but I must respond to #24´s GOP-think.
If the House votes "no", then #24´s scenario is possible. However, if the House votes "yes", then the scenario I posted in #19 is possible.
Worse yet, Assad (or the rebels - we still don´t know who launched the chemicals) could absorb the strike and launch another attack anyway. Putin would have Assad´s "back". Then, since as detailed in http://www.lucianne.com/thread/?artnum=750306: "the president is authorized to use the Armed Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and appropriate", Obama would be in a box. Raise the ante, or fold. The situation and the threat of escalation could be even worse.
Damned if you do, damned if you don´t. Blamed if you do, blamed if you don´t.
The Pubs might as well do the right thing for the USA and vote to stay out. Then put the onus on Putin to settle this. (We don´t care who wins in Syria, right?) Let Mr. Putin be the "hero" and keep his naval base, and just stop the bloodshed. Don´t compound the original "red line" mistake.
If it´s Iran you´re really worried about, then deal directly with Iran. Military action there would be justified.
#6 southernboy, alerts us to an important NUMBER, 9-11 when he writes, "..It’s not entirely clear why Obama has decided to exercise restraint now when he has not done so in the past….I’m wondering if he received some info about some world-shaking event planned for 9/11 which will justify and legalize his acting without Congressional approval…or will guarantee Congressional approval. Something that will “change his calculus." Thanks for the reminder, SOUTHERNBOY Bill and Hillary´s Waco family slaughter was repeated one year later, exatly, at the Murah building in Oklahoma to erase the Waco date. Imagine Nobama knowing about a 9-11 crisis in advance.
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