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Cardinal George says Same Sex
Marriage is Irrational

Chicago Sun Times, by Mark Brown

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Posted By:tisHimself, 8/29/2013 12:14:05 PM

You might expect the leader of the Catholic Church in Chicago to explain his opposition to same-sex marriage on the basis of his religious tenets, but Cardinal Francis George says that’s secondary. “This is first of all a rational issue before it’s a faith issue,” the cardinal told me in an interview this week. “That is, it’s nature that tells us what marriage is, that in marriage, men and women aren’t interchangeable.” “We didn’t invent marriage. The church didn’t invent marriage. The state didn’t invent marriage. Nature gives us marriage. The Chinese are not Americans, and they’re not Catholic. They know what

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Atheists pretending not to comprehend natural law.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: kanphil, 8/29/2013 12:24:51 PM     (No. 9497100)

Odd, that a cleric speaking good sense is worthy of a headline.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: lostinmassachusetts, 8/29/2013 12:35:21 PM     (No. 9497116)

The Ten Commandments are consistent with natural law.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Scottyboy, 8/29/2013 12:38:20 PM     (No. 9497122)

Irrational, unnatural and UNSANITARY !

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Reply 4 - Posted by: mitzi, 8/29/2013 12:40:18 PM     (No. 9497127)

Aristotle, Plato, Cicero, the Stoics and others understood natural law. Kids in Catholic high school learn about natural law (at least they did in my school). It was discussed in philosophy classes in college.

Wiki has a good recap/refresher.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Caljeepgirl, 8/29/2013 12:45:10 PM     (No. 9497130)

Duh!

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Reply 6 - Posted by: southron, 8/29/2013 12:45:54 PM     (No. 9497131)

I agree with the Cardinal 100% but the do-gooders in media and government are able to convince many gullible people otherwise.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Stlouislaxbros dad, 8/29/2013 12:57:47 PM     (No. 9497150)

The good Cardinal is correct and accurate.

Gay "marriage" is pretend... they are pretending to be something they are not.

Everyone knows that. Even the gays.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Keekng, 8/29/2013 1:16:21 PM     (No. 9497185)

The Cardinal needs to understand there are many Christians who are not Roman Catholic.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: absalom, 8/29/2013 1:24:12 PM     (No. 9497197)

#8. Same sex marriage is a contradiction akin to a Catholic Muslim or a square circle. The proof is in logic, not a religious impulse.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: prescient33, 8/29/2013 1:45:26 PM     (No. 9497231)

The Cardinal is well aware that there are "Christians" who are not Catholic. He´s likewise aware that there are also "cafeteria" Catholics who seem to feel they may pick and choose among the basic tenets of their religion, accepting those they like, rejecting those they find "hard to swallow." (The latter might wish to pay heed to the Gospel of John, 6: 60-69, i.e., if they don´t believe in Christ´s teachings, they are free to leave, as the Lord admonished them.)
The Cardinal is addressing those in his charge, as well as those who through the Grace of God hear him and come to believe. He is not running for political office, adjusting his beliefs to the flavor of the month. He is true to his beliefs, to those of his faith, and deserves respect for that.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Keekng, 8/29/2013 3:03:43 PM     (No. 9497345)

Pay attention, #9. He made a statement intimating that only Catholics are Christians. It ain´t so!

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 8/29/2013 3:10:18 PM     (No. 9497355)

God gave the hand of the woman (Eve) to Adam in the Garden of Eden as a permanent bond till death they did part. They never participated in sins of polygamy or homosexuality.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: amylu, 8/29/2013 3:14:38 PM     (No. 9497358)

What´s your point, #8?

Marriage was ordained by God, involving one man and one woman. If you claim to be Christian and don´t believe that, then you are not a Christian...pure and simple. Same goes for abortion, homosexual activity and pre-marital sex or "shacking up". Christianity is not a menu; you either accept ALL of Christ´s teachings, or you are not one of us.

A union between two same-sex individuals is sodomy, which is abhorrent to the Lord. It might be a "merger" in a sense, but it certainly is not, nor will it ever be, a marriage.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: lavalette, 8/29/2013 3:32:23 PM     (No. 9497378)

First we lose our faith, then we lose our morality, and finally we lose our minds.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Keekng, 8/29/2013 3:35:26 PM     (No. 9497383)

#13, I thought my point was pretty clear.
The Cardinals statement could lead one to think he is saying one must be a Catholic to be a Christian. Perhaps I misunderstood what he said but that is what I got from his statement.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: lavalette, 8/29/2013 3:35:40 PM     (No. 9497384)

Two nuts go together and two bolts go together just as well as a nut and a bolt. To say otherwise is bigoted and hateful, an irrational sentiment driven by unconstitutional animus.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Keekng, 8/29/2013 3:49:20 PM     (No. 9497405)

Sorry, #16, nuts without bolts are worthless.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: reilly, 8/29/2013 3:53:33 PM     (No. 9497411)


Don´t let the homosexual community confuse you. Marriage means husband and wife. It´s the way it´s supposed to be.
We won´t see the damage we´ve already permitted for a couple generations, but damage there will be.


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Reply 19 - Posted by: NYC RAL, 8/29/2013 3:56:33 PM     (No. 9497416)

There are basic factual truths.When the tea kettle whistles, the water is 212 degrees. (Unless you live in Denver, the altitude changes that.) When you see daylight, it is generated by a burning star ????? millions of miles away from our planet as our planet rotates on invisible axis giving us day and night. The moon does the same and orbits around the earth experiencing night and day. When an object with mass is dropped it descends to the surface of the earth. This is an observance of gravity. There are numerous people out there willing to argue about each one of this facts including a flat earth and NASA moon missions being faked. Let´s all recognize the truth. Nature shows the proper way. There are seasons and reasons. If you look at how the "puzzle pieces" fit and see the outcome of animal and plants "fitting together" as they are designed are for reproduction and furthering the species. Obviously the option of masturbation is a self satisfying fantasy (imagination unrestricted by reality) or when shared with a "partner" as mutual masturbation can double the experience. Our bodies are designed to reproduce. Anything other with a "partner" is denying the truth of the design and attempting to live outside of reality. Too many today live to twist the truth. Happens in the news. Happens in the Church and all of it´s runaway children claiming to be their parent. Legal, political and social avenues are going where? The truth will set you free and remember the first story we are told about "Adam and Eve" and the truth contained in that story. Truth was twisted there and look how far we have come and twist it today. We continue to say, "What is truth? Even today.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: absalom, 8/29/2013 4:23:22 PM     (No. 9497452)

Keekng,
If you don´t know what the Cardinal meant, suggest you cease implying this or that; which is nothing more than ignorant speculation. You come across as thin skinned and easily offended.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: killerbee, 8/29/2013 5:00:44 PM     (No. 9497504)

Marriage defined by the government is irrational. There should be no such thing as a government distributed "marriage license".

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Reply 22 - Posted by: SouthSanAntonio, 8/29/2013 5:03:21 PM     (No. 9497508)

I wish #15 had quoted what the Cardinal said that made him think that.

I have read this article through several times, and can´t find anywhere where he said only Catholics are Christians.

I´m not Catholic, but the enemy here is definitely not this Cardinal. He speaks the truth about marriage, and Christians had better learn to work together, since the side of evil is working together very well to destroy marriage and families!!!

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Keekng, 8/29/2013 5:03:35 PM     (No. 9497509)

Well, Absalom, If you want to be really picky and personal, try this....The only person who knows what he meant is the Cardinal, the rest of us only know what he said. I am done with you.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: absalom, 8/29/2013 10:38:18 PM     (No. 9497846)

Listen up Keekng.
I´m heartbroken, but suggest next time someone w/the stature of Cardinal George makes a public comment that gets you riled up; ignore it rather embarrassing yourself as a petulant and peevish crank.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: tisHimself, 8/29/2013 11:29:10 PM     (No. 9497897)

Is there a patron saint for the intellectually lazy? If so, a novena is in order.

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